The rise and fall of The SNP.

[Guest]

Apart from being a COVID super spreading indy weirdo, Maggie FooFoo has one of the most annoying weegie accents known to man.

 

And dont get me started on her two front teeth. They look.like they've been sponsored by the Jobbie Alliance. Horrific.

 

Boris needs a haircut though.

Edited January 7, 2022 by Jonkel Hoon

[Boab]

7 minutes ago, Jonkel Hoon said:

Apart from being a COVID super spreading indy weirdo, Maggie FooFoo has one of the most annoying weegie accents known to man.

 

And dont get me started on her two front teeth. They look.like they've been sponsored by the Jobbie Alliance. Horrific.

 

Boris needs a haircut though.

Aye, it's only the haircut that's the problem here...

 

[JudyJudyJudy]

43 minutes ago, Boab said:

Aye, it's only the haircut that's the problem here...

 

Reminds me of that creepy film about kids who were aliens  and they all had blonde hair 😂

[Boab]

12 minutes ago, JamesM48 said:

Reminds me of that creepy film about kids who were aliens  and they all had blonde hair 😂

Village of the Damned.

👍

[Libertarian]

The SNP are telling teachers to lie to parents about primary school children who claim they are transgender. Extremely dangerous.

[Boab]

1 minute ago, Libertarian said:

The SNP are telling teachers to lie to parents about primary school children who claim they are transgender. Extremely dangerous.

You're on a roll....!

[The Real Maroonblood]

11 minutes ago, Libertarian said:

The SNP are telling teachers to lie to parents about primary school children who claim they are transgender. Extremely dangerous.

[Lord Montpelier]

I saw one of the SNP on the news earlier talking about her plans to get a bill raised to pardon witches from 300 years ago. Surely got one or two more important and contemporary things to occupy their minds. 

[Libertarian]

13 minutes ago, The Real Maroonblood said:

Your response says it all my friend. 

[The Real Maroonblood]

Just now, Libertarian said:

Your response says it all my friend. 

That's what your posts deserve. 

[Libertarian]

4 minutes ago, The Real Maroonblood said:

That's what your posts deserve. 

Women won't wheesht

[JudyJudyJudy]

35 minutes ago, Boab said:

Village of the Damned.

👍

Yes thats it.   George Saunders was in it 

[Japan Jambo]

10 hours ago, jack D and coke said:

Yeah did you see the snp millionaire lord use levelling up money to fix potholes on his estate as well. Came to 3 times that amount too!!! 
Filthy scrounging snp toerags🤬

 

He's only a humble crofter....

[Seymour M Hersh]

 

Scotland’s largest parents’ organisation is calling for the SNP government to withdraw its schools’ health and wellbeing census, which has attracted opprobrium for asking 14-year-olds about their experience of anal sex.

The controversial poll has united rightwing pro-family campaigners and progressive children’s rights advocates, with both groups fearing it may end up causing harm to the young people it intends to help.

The census, which is administered by local authorities and due to be completed this school year, has been declared “not fit for purpose” by Eileen Prior, the chief executive of Connect.

The survey has previously attracted disapproval for asking secondary pupils in senior 4 and above about relationships and sexual health, with one much-reported question asking pupils to list how much sexual experience they have had, ranging from kissing to vaginal and anal sex.

Prior has written to the first minister, Nicola Sturgeon, and the education secretary, Shirley-Anne Somerville, asking them to withdraw the survey “until it takes a children’s rights approach, which has clearly been missing”.

Raising particular concerns around pupils’ privacy and informed consent, Prior echoes recent comments from Scotland’s children and young people’s commissioner, Bruce Adamson, who urged the Scottish government to pause the introduction of the survey “until it can ensure a rights-compliant process”.

In the letter, seen by the Guardian, Prior raises a succession of serious concerns about the survey, which asks pupils in primary and secondary schools a range of age-related questions.

The information commissioner is investigating data protection concerns about the census, with at least 10 councils unilaterally deciding to withdraw or review it.

On privacy, Prior notes “mixed messaging” for parents and pupils. Despite several declarations of confidentiality, “the information gathered clearly makes children and young people identifiable at school, local authority or national level”, she says, with young people asked to fill in their unique Scottish candidate number and parents told this may be used to identify a young person “in exceptional circumstances”.

Subjects covered in the census include attitudes to play, exercise and school work, as well as body image, mental health, alcohol, drugs, bullying, relationships and sexual health.

Prior also argues there is a “very heteronormative slant” to the questions, such as using the terms “girlfriend” and “boyfriend”. More broadly, she questions why “policymakers need to know about oral sex”.

Other questions relating to mental health are “deeply personal and potentially very upsetting for vulnerable children and young people” she says, adding the census lacks sufficient advice for parents and teachers on supporting young people detailing traumatic events.

She also asks why the surveys were not tested on young people and why guidance was not sought from youth organisations, and sets out “deep concerns” that young people are not given clear enough information on the contents or purpose of the survey, or how their data will be used.

Asked about the chorus of criticism at first minister’s questions last month, Sturgeon stressed that the census was not mandatory for local authorities to use in school, and that both parents and pupils could opt out.

But she added her government had a “serious responsibility” to ensure that public services were informed by lived experience.

Sturgeon said: “Either we can bury our heads in the sand and pretend that young people are not exposed to the issues or the pressures that we know they are exposed to. Or we can seek to properly understand the reality that young people face and provide them with the guidance, the advice and the services they need to make safe, healthy and positive decisions. I choose the latter.”

A Scottish government spokesperson said: “Parents/carers and children and young people are informed of how their data will be used in advance of any taking part in the census and they can decide to opt out if they wish. If children and young people do take part, they can skip any question they don’t wish to answer or state that they would ‘prefer not to say’.

“Whilst the Scottish government has worked with stakeholders to design a set of questionnaires, it is for local authorities to determine which questions they ask.”

[manaliveits105]

It’s somebody else’s fault as per usual 

 

[chuck berrys hairline]

Scottish Nonce n Paedo Party 😷

[Lord Montpelier]

9 hours ago, Seymour M Hersh said:

 

Scotland’s largest parents’ organisation is calling for the SNP government to withdraw its schools’ health and wellbeing census, which has attracted opprobrium for asking 14-year-olds about their experience of anal sex.

The controversial poll has united rightwing pro-family campaigners and progressive children’s rights advocates, with both groups fearing it may end up causing harm to the young people it intends to help.

The census, which is administered by local authorities and due to be completed this school year, has been declared “not fit for purpose” by Eileen Prior, the chief executive of Connect.

The survey has previously attracted disapproval for asking secondary pupils in senior 4 and above about relationships and sexual health, with one much-reported question asking pupils to list how much sexual experience they have had, ranging from kissing to vaginal and anal sex.

Prior has written to the first minister, Nicola Sturgeon, and the education secretary, Shirley-Anne Somerville, asking them to withdraw the survey “until it takes a children’s rights approach, which has clearly been missing”.

Raising particular concerns around pupils’ privacy and informed consent, Prior echoes recent comments from Scotland’s children and young people’s commissioner, Bruce Adamson, who urged the Scottish government to pause the introduction of the survey “until it can ensure a rights-compliant process”.

In the letter, seen by the Guardian, Prior raises a succession of serious concerns about the survey, which asks pupils in primary and secondary schools a range of age-related questions.

The information commissioner is investigating data protection concerns about the census, with at least 10 councils unilaterally deciding to withdraw or review it.

On privacy, Prior notes “mixed messaging” for parents and pupils. Despite several declarations of confidentiality, “the information gathered clearly makes children and young people identifiable at school, local authority or national level”, she says, with young people asked to fill in their unique Scottish candidate number and parents told this may be used to identify a young person “in exceptional circumstances”.

Subjects covered in the census include attitudes to play, exercise and school work, as well as body image, mental health, alcohol, drugs, bullying, relationships and sexual health.

Prior also argues there is a “very heteronormative slant” to the questions, such as using the terms “girlfriend” and “boyfriend”. More broadly, she questions why “policymakers need to know about oral sex”.

Other questions relating to mental health are “deeply personal and potentially very upsetting for vulnerable children and young people” she says, adding the census lacks sufficient advice for parents and teachers on supporting young people detailing traumatic events.

She also asks why the surveys were not tested on young people and why guidance was not sought from youth organisations, and sets out “deep concerns” that young people are not given clear enough information on the contents or purpose of the survey, or how their data will be used.

Asked about the chorus of criticism at first minister’s questions last month, Sturgeon stressed that the census was not mandatory for local authorities to use in school, and that both parents and pupils could opt out.

But she added her government had a “serious responsibility” to ensure that public services were informed by lived experience.

Sturgeon said: “Either we can bury our heads in the sand and pretend that young people are not exposed to the issues or the pressures that we know they are exposed to. Or we can seek to properly understand the reality that young people face and provide them with the guidance, the advice and the services they need to make safe, healthy and positive decisions. I choose the latter.”

A Scottish government spokesperson said: “Parents/carers and children and young people are informed of how their data will be used in advance of any taking part in the census and they can decide to opt out if they wish. If children and young people do take part, they can skip any question they don’t wish to answer or state that they would ‘prefer not to say’.

“Whilst the Scottish government has worked with stakeholders to design a set of questionnaires, it is for local authorities to determine which questions they ask.”

Im sure the SNP will call this progressive. 

[John Findlay]

13 hours ago, Seymour M Hersh said:

 

Scotland’s largest parents’ organisation is calling for the SNP government to withdraw its schools’ health and wellbeing census, which has attracted opprobrium for asking 14-year-olds about their experience of anal sex.

The controversial poll has united rightwing pro-family campaigners and progressive children’s rights advocates, with both groups fearing it may end up causing harm to the young people it intends to help.

The census, which is administered by local authorities and due to be completed this school year, has been declared “not fit for purpose” by Eileen Prior, the chief executive of Connect.

The survey has previously attracted disapproval for asking secondary pupils in senior 4 and above about relationships and sexual health, with one much-reported question asking pupils to list how much sexual experience they have had, ranging from kissing to vaginal and anal sex.

Prior has written to the first minister, Nicola Sturgeon, and the education secretary, Shirley-Anne Somerville, asking them to withdraw the survey “until it takes a children’s rights approach, which has clearly been missing”.

Raising particular concerns around pupils’ privacy and informed consent, Prior echoes recent comments from Scotland’s children and young people’s commissioner, Bruce Adamson, who urged the Scottish government to pause the introduction of the survey “until it can ensure a rights-compliant process”.

In the letter, seen by the Guardian, Prior raises a succession of serious concerns about the survey, which asks pupils in primary and secondary schools a range of age-related questions.

The information commissioner is investigating data protection concerns about the census, with at least 10 councils unilaterally deciding to withdraw or review it.

On privacy, Prior notes “mixed messaging” for parents and pupils. Despite several declarations of confidentiality, “the information gathered clearly makes children and young people identifiable at school, local authority or national level”, she says, with young people asked to fill in their unique Scottish candidate number and parents told this may be used to identify a young person “in exceptional circumstances”.

Subjects covered in the census include attitudes to play, exercise and school work, as well as body image, mental health, alcohol, drugs, bullying, relationships and sexual health.

Prior also argues there is a “very heteronormative slant” to the questions, such as using the terms “girlfriend” and “boyfriend”. More broadly, she questions why “policymakers need to know about oral sex”.

Other questions relating to mental health are “deeply personal and potentially very upsetting for vulnerable children and young people” she says, adding the census lacks sufficient advice for parents and teachers on supporting young people detailing traumatic events.

She also asks why the surveys were not tested on young people and why guidance was not sought from youth organisations, and sets out “deep concerns” that young people are not given clear enough information on the contents or purpose of the survey, or how their data will be used.

Asked about the chorus of criticism at first minister’s questions last month, Sturgeon stressed that the census was not mandatory for local authorities to use in school, and that both parents and pupils could opt out.

But she added her government had a “serious responsibility” to ensure that public services were informed by lived experience.

Sturgeon said: “Either we can bury our heads in the sand and pretend that young people are not exposed to the issues or the pressures that we know they are exposed to. Or we can seek to properly understand the reality that young people face and provide them with the guidance, the advice and the services they need to make safe, healthy and positive decisions. I choose the latter.”

A Scottish government spokesperson said: “Parents/carers and children and young people are informed of how their data will be used in advance of any taking part in the census and they can decide to opt out if they wish. If children and young people do take part, they can skip any question they don’t wish to answer or state that they would ‘prefer not to say’.

“Whilst the Scottish government has worked with stakeholders to design a set of questionnaires, it is for local authorities to determine which questions they ask.”

As its a survey I would humbly suggest any pupil has the right not to participate. Therefore I would be advising pupils not to participate.

[jamboy1982]

On 10/01/2022 at 06:39, manaliveits105 said:

It’s somebody else’s fault as per usual 

 

Not seen you commenting on the recent allegations against boris and co surrounding parties? 

[manaliveits105]

40 minutes ago, jamboy1982 said:

Not seen you commenting on the recent allegations against boris and co surrounding parties? 

If Boris goes he goes there will be an able replacement and the Tories will get a new manager boost to take us through the next 10 years 

[jack D and coke]

Posted by someone who claims he voted Yes…🤥

Have you ever heard such drivel  

[Savage Vince]

1 hour ago, jack D and coke said:

Posted by someone who claims he voted Yes…🤥

Have you ever heard such drivel  

 

I am sure I read that most of this lot were a staunch YES back then but they've all changed to Tory voters because of the EssEnnPee 😁

[jack D and coke]

Only two I know tbh…😉

 

[manaliveits105]

What ever happened to yon referendumb thingy by the way ??

[Ray Gin]

9 minutes ago, manaliveits105 said:

What ever happened to yon referendumb thingy by the way ??

 

Just waiting on agent Johnson causing enough uproar to push it through. Not long now, he's doing a great job. Tick tock.

 

[JudyJudyJudy]

17 minutes ago, manaliveits105 said:

What ever happened to yon referendumb thingy by the way ??

Shes already trying to wiggle out of the 2023 deadline. Stinging the cult along. Dearie me. Please wake up

 

 

‘It pushes your timetable back!' Sturgeon squirms after climbing down on IndyRef2 promise (msn.com)

[Pans Jambo]

20 minutes ago, JamesM48 said:

Shes already trying to wiggle out of the 2023 deadline. Stinging the cult along. Dearie me. Please wake up

 

 

‘It pushes your timetable back!' Sturgeon squirms after climbing down on IndyRef2 promise (msn.com)

Did she not also say BEFORE the last election that swept all aside in Scotland: "A referendum on Scottish independence BEFORE the end of the Parliament"?

 

Sure she did but what do I know.

[JudyJudyJudy]

3 minutes ago, Pans Jambo said:

Did she not also say BEFORE the last election that swept all aside in Scotland: "A referendum on Scottish independence BEFORE the end of the Parliament"?

 

Sure she did but what do I know.

Did she not say it would be tail end of 202 ? Im not that bothered about it all. I lost the passion for Scottish Indy for a long time. 

[Pans Jambo]

Just now, JamesM48 said:

Did she not say it would be tail end of 202 ? Im not that bothered about it all. I lost the passion for Scottish Indy for a long time. 

Aye I'm sure she did but with the caveat surrounding the pandemic. It's in the post I'm sure.

[North Berwick Jambo]

I can’t help but notice it’s been strangely quiet on this thread over the past few days , I take it you are all waiting on Sue Gray to come on & comment before we go any further? 😉 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

Edited January 15, 2022 by North Berwick Jambo

[The Real Maroonblood]

44 minutes ago, North Berwick Jambo said:

I can’t help but notice it’s been strangely quiet on this thread over the past few days , I take it you are all waiting on Sue Gray to come on & comment before we go any further? 😉 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

[Japan Jambo]

seems a bit of a foot fault in comparison to the shenanigans down here but hey ho;

 

https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/politics/covid-scotland-nicola-sturgeon-reported-to-watchdog-over-claims-she-seriously-twisted-data-3536824

[manaliveits105]

Do people still believe anything that comes out her mouth ? 

[jamboy1982]

25 minutes ago, manaliveits105 said:

Do people still believe anything that comes out her mouth ? 

Much more than the pish that comes out yours 

[The Mighty Thor]

15 minutes ago, Hunky Dory said:

😂

[The Real Maroonblood]

2 hours ago, jamboy1982 said:

Much more than the pish that comes out yours 

[manaliveits105]

Yet no response to her deceit just half wittery as per normal 

[JudyJudyJudy]

4 hours ago, manaliveits105 said:

Do people still believe anything that comes out her mouth ? 

No 

[JudyJudyJudy]

27 minutes ago, manaliveits105 said:

Yet no response to her deceit just half wittery as per normal 

They can’t criticise her . It’s against the party rules . The cult  . Even her own politicians can’t criticise her . It’s a very unhealthy political environment 

[Cruyff]

2 minutes ago, Hunky Dory said:

You know why the Yoons are particularly demented this week...

 

Ouch! 

[jack D and coke]

7 minutes ago, Hunky Dory said:

You know why the Yoons are particularly demented this week...

 

Ooooft  

[Roxy Hearts]

13 minutes ago, Hunky Dory said:

You know why the Yoons are particularly demented this week...

 

Tremendous!

[Unknown user]

5 hours ago, Japan Jambo said:

seems a bit of a foot fault in comparison to the shenanigans down here but hey ho;

 

https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/politics/covid-scotland-nicola-sturgeon-reported-to-watchdog-over-claims-she-seriously-twisted-data-3536824

 

She said English figures were 20% higher. They're 21.83% higher.

 

Evil incarnate.

 

[jack D and coke]

2 minutes ago, Hunky Dory said:

 

Nothing will come out of this.

 

Rennie et al. have decided that the presented data is inaccurate based solely on the individual(s) presenting it. What was said was mathematically and statistically sound.

 

Try again.

Willie Rennie  

[Unknown user]

1 hour ago, manaliveits105 said:

Yet no response to her deceit just half wittery as per normal 

 

Yet again, no deceit, just half wittery from her accusers who don't have the brains to see the claim was accurate.

[Roxy Hearts]

27 minutes ago, Smithee said:

 

Yet again, no deceit, just half wittery from her accusers who don't have the brains to see the claim was accurate.

Never and I mean never trust a British Establishment unionist. 

[jack D and coke]

2 minutes ago, Roxy Hearts said:

Never and I mean never trust a British Establishment unionist. 

Heeds melted with the British cult. Low esteem means they worship plummy voiced tossers talking down to them and love parasite royals. 
Strange lot. 

Edited January 21, 2022 by jack D and coke

[manaliveits105]

1 hour ago, Hunky Dory said:

You know why the Yoons are particularly demented this week...

 

come ahead then 

 

even the nawtional latest poll has 46/46 with 8% don’t know 

 

nae way the fearties will go for it 

[Roxy Hearts]

2 hours ago, jack D and coke said:

Heeds melted with the British cult. Low esteem means they worship plummy voiced tossers talking down to them and love parasite royals. 
Strange lot. 

Very, very true. Absolute shower of cowards too.

[Don Dan]

Just listening Sturgeon on BBC Sophie Rayworth show my she can talk and even with out taking a breath. Dominic Rabb can do the same too! Both hell bent on preventing the interviewer ask them questions. 
Practiced answers given often not even answering the question.