JudyJudyJudy Posted April 27, 2021 Share Posted April 27, 2021 1 minute ago, Roxy Hearts said: Looks fantastic. Can't wait to get back! Yes letβs all remember why we are here instead of all the bickering which is just back ground noise to our support for the mighty Jambos ! Iβm fed up with people not agreeing with my viewpoint π Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roxy Hearts Posted April 27, 2021 Share Posted April 27, 2021 1 hour ago, JamesM48 said: Yes letβs all remember why we are here instead of all the bickering which is just back ground noise to our support for the mighty Jambos ! Iβm fed up with people not agreeing with my viewpoint π ππ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maroonlegions Posted April 27, 2021 Share Posted April 27, 2021 10 hours ago, JamesM48 said: Sorry Ri Alban be careful what you wish forΒ Β Most times political slogans can be short but simple, away from the spin doctors ect..Β Β Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlimOzturk Posted April 27, 2021 Share Posted April 27, 2021 Anyone seen the latest pollsΒ Β Alba forecast to win 6-8 seats π Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pablo Posted April 27, 2021 Share Posted April 27, 2021 6 hours ago, jack D and coke said: Loving the tartan effect on our pitch nowπ΄σ §σ ’σ ³σ £σ ΄σ Ώπ΄σ §σ ’σ ³σ £σ ΄σ Ώ Β That looks excellentΒ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pablo Posted April 27, 2021 Share Posted April 27, 2021 37 minutes ago, maroonlegions said: Β Most times political slogans can be short but simple, away from the spin doctors ect..Β Β Β These Scottish kids have their own messageΒ twitter_20210427_195250.mp4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gizmo Posted April 27, 2021 Share Posted April 27, 2021 16 minutes ago, AlimOzturk said: Anyone seen the latest pollsΒ Β Alba forecast to win 6-8 seats π Looking like they aren't even eating into the Greens vote either. Not sure I overly trust them, but they've played it canny.Β Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manaliveits105 Posted April 27, 2021 Share Posted April 27, 2021 6 minutes ago, pablo said: Β These Scottish kids have their own messageΒ twitter_20210427_195250.mp4 from the mouths of children Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 27, 2021 Share Posted April 27, 2021 1 hour ago, maroonlegions said: Β Most times political slogans can be short but simple, away from the spin doctors ect..Β Β P.S. Gran, Derek Mackay wants to take me campingΒ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Dan Posted April 27, 2021 Share Posted April 27, 2021 https://apple.news/AzhAVAxQgT_W17AxzKcYE6w Β Β Scotlandβs fiscal deficit has soared to eight times the limit set by the European Union for membership, according to research that could set back the cause of Scottish independence. It is understood that the Institute for Fiscal Studies will report this week that the gap between Scottish public spending and tax revenues rose to between 22 per cent and 25 per cent of the countryβs gross domestic product (GDP) in 2020-1. That gap, in cash terms more than Β£40 billion, is nearly three times the level of the Scottish deficit the year before, of 8.6 per cent, and is considerably higher than the all-UK deficit of 14.5 per cent for the year just ended. News that Scotlandβs deficit is at a record peacetime high, in part due to unprecedented Covid-related spending and tumbling North Sea oil revenues, led to warnings that an independent Scotland would face tough choices on spending cuts and higher taxes. It is also at odds with longstanding EU criteria that require all new members to reduce budget deficits to 3 per cent of GDP or less, although new members can negotiate transition periods to give time to meet rules. There is also an expectation that post-pandemic, the EU may relax its fiscal rules, which are suspended at present. Mairi Spowage, interim director at the Fraser of Allander Institute, at Strathclyde University, said: βIt would not be possible to run structural deficits of this scale over the long run, so various options, including policies to grow the economy, expand and change the tax base, increase tax rates or cut spending, are likely to feature. βOf course, the UK too faces significant budgetary pressures, and this will impact upon Scotland inside or outside the Union. With Covid-19 making everyoneβs public sector deficits that much bigger, the challenge of building a model of fiscal sustainability just got harder.β Murdo Fraser, Tory finance spokesman, said: βNicola Sturgeon uses grievance and grudge to whip up nationalist fervour yet she cannot answer basic questions about the finances of an independent Scotland and, on this evidence, no wonder. βThese figures lay bare the bleak reality of the chasm between tax revenues and public spending. Future generations would face an impoverished future, while arrogant SNP politicians would be just fine. βNot only do the SNP have no credible currency plan, but they also have no obvious route to join the EU and on the basis of these numbers, it looks highly implausible.β The economist John McLaren added: βOne of the big changes since 2014 has been the virtual disappearance of North Sea revenues an independent Scotland might expect to have. This means Scotlandβs underlying fiscal deficit is less erratic but also, Covid aside, unsustainably high. βThe SNPβs growth commission report acknowledged this and the EU would clearly have concerns, too. However, the future position on how much Scotland would need to trim its fiscal sails by is uncertain as the EU has suspended its fiscal rules. It intends to review them post-pandemic with a strong likelihood that they will be more accommodating. Nevertheless, some difficult decisions would inevitably lie ahead post-independence.β Opponents of Scottish independence argue that the deficit highlights huge advantages in remaining in the UK, including spending on public services 27 per cent higher per head than in England. However, independence supporters say the deficit highlights the constraints that Scotland faces within the UK. An SNP spokesman said: βEvery country in the world is dealing with exceptional public finance pressures as we recover from the pandemic. The UK has this week seen its deficit rise to the highest level since 1946, while its national debt now stands at more than Β£2 trillion.β Β Β Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cade Posted April 27, 2021 Share Posted April 27, 2021 I like that everybody who shares that article doesn't post the bit where the IFS says that Scotland is a rich country and could easily thrive as an Independent state. Β Β The article reads as "haha the UK has made you so poor that you can't go alone", which hardly a ringing endorsementΒ for the Union. And the figures are based on current taxation, over which the Scottish Parliament only has limited control. And as usual simply assigns 10% of all UK spending to Scotland. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Dan Posted April 27, 2021 Share Posted April 27, 2021 56 minutes ago, Candy said: P.S. Gran, Derek Mackay wants to take me campingΒ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Dan Posted April 27, 2021 Share Posted April 27, 2021 3 minutes ago, Cade said: I like that everybody who shares that article doesn't post the bit where the IFS says that Scotland is a rich country and could easily thrive as an Independent state. Β Β The article reads as "haha the UK has made you so poor that you can't go alone", which hardly a ringing endorsementΒ for the Union. And the figures are based on current taxation, over which the Scottish Parliament only has limited control. And as usual simply assigns 10% of all UK spending to Scotland. A know what are these fiscal experts like compared to social media experts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjcc Posted April 27, 2021 Share Posted April 27, 2021 8 hours ago, jack D and coke said: Loving the tartan effect on our pitch nowπ΄σ §σ ’σ ³σ £σ ΄σ Ώπ΄σ §σ ’σ ³σ £σ ΄σ Ώ Maybe just so they know where to put the boards for the open air orchestra festival.Β Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swahili Jambo Posted April 27, 2021 Share Posted April 27, 2021 The fall is nearing the bottom of the cliff!Β Damn pesky Nationalists, SNP 1/100.Β Tis the end game .Β Alba Gu Brath.Β Β Β Β Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackLadd Posted April 27, 2021 Share Posted April 27, 2021 Salmond is probably sucking up the old Sheridan SSP vote. The crackpotΒ ne'er-do-well popular front of Alb=ea.Β Β Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XB52 Posted April 28, 2021 Share Posted April 28, 2021 6 hours ago, JackLadd said: Salmond is probably sucking up the old Sheridan SSP vote. The crackpotΒ ne'er-do-well popular front of Alb=ea.Β Β Bloody hell, a post by you that I actually agree with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XB52 Posted April 28, 2021 Share Posted April 28, 2021 11 hours ago, AlimOzturk said: Anyone seen the latest pollsΒ Β Alba forecast to win 6-8 seats π The same pollsters had them the exact same weeks ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manaliveits105 Posted April 28, 2021 Share Posted April 28, 2021 https://sputniknews.com/uk/202103081082284132-snp-buried-sexual-harassment-claims-against-two-westminster-mps-says-staffer/ himself on the side of the couch," the whistle-blower said. βAt that point, he started putting his fingers down the back of my collar, touching me inappropriately there. He was also grabbing my hair.β The staff member said he did notΒ initially report the incident as he was reluctant toΒ go βhead to head with an MPβ, but after another individual raised the issue later he confirmed it to party officials. Office Ambush Β Β© REUTERS / UK PARLIAMENT/JESSICA TAYLOR Scottish National Party leader in Westminster MP Ian Blackford speaks during the weekly Prime Minister's Questions session in Parliament in London The man said SNP Westminster leader Ian Blackford, a staunch supporter of party leader and Scottish First MinisterΒ Nicola Sturgeon, then called him to a meeting in his office β which he described as an "ambush". βHe calls me into the office and the other MP is sitting on the couch, crying,β the accuser related. After the MP tearfully apologised, he felt obliged to forgive him.Β βAt that time. I felt the only thing I could say was that it was OK. I wasnβt going to tear this guy down in front of me. It was pretty hard for me to watch.β Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack D and coke Posted April 28, 2021 Share Posted April 28, 2021 11 hours ago, gjcc said: Maybe just so they know where to put the boards for the open air orchestra festival.Β Β Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack D and coke Posted April 28, 2021 Share Posted April 28, 2021 Interesting article about Trident.Β https://amp.theguardian.com/uk-news/2021/apr/26/trident-overseas-or-halted-scotland-independence?__twitter_impression=true This couple of paragraphs stand out for me..nobody wants this on their doorstep.Β Good enough for us thoughππΌ Β βAlternative sites considered at the time Faslane was chosen, such as Milford Haven in Wales and Falmouth in Cornwall, are now industrialised in the case of the former or have a larger population; while Devonport, where the submarines are refitted, would require significant engineering work and is close to the city of Plymouth. Any new site would take many years to develop, amid what is likely to be intense local opposition wherever is chosen. βIt is therefore a reasonable assumption that achievement of the necessary planning permissions would be testing or impossible,β Gower said.β Β Β Β Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack D and coke Posted April 28, 2021 Share Posted April 28, 2021 Listened to and watched someΒ of Sarwar lately. Another utter Jack n Danny he isΒ Β Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gizmo Posted April 28, 2021 Share Posted April 28, 2021 2 hours ago, jack D and coke said: Interesting article about Trident.Β https://amp.theguardian.com/uk-news/2021/apr/26/trident-overseas-or-halted-scotland-independence?__twitter_impression=true This couple of paragraphs stand out for me..nobody wants this on their doorstep.Β Good enough for us thoughππΌ Β βAlternative sites considered at the time Faslane was chosen, such as Milford Haven in Wales and Falmouth in Cornwall, are now industrialised in the case of the former or have a larger population; while Devonport, where the submarines are refitted, would require significant engineering work and is close to the city of Plymouth. Any new site would take many years to develop, amid what is likely to be intense local opposition wherever is chosen. βIt is therefore a reasonable assumption that achievement of the necessary planning permissions would be testing or impossible,β Gower said.β Β Β Β Reason given for it not initially being placed in Devenport - "too close to a population centre with risk to life too catastrophic".Β Β 16 minutes ago, jack D and coke said: Listened to and watched someΒ of Sarwar lately. Another utter Jack n Danny he isΒ Β I'm just waiting for him to follow in his corrupt Father's footsteps. Watch how utterly gormless he becomes when he is off-script - his PR assistant must work overtime to make this dumb fool sound like he has anything about him.Β Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roxy Hearts Posted April 28, 2021 Share Posted April 28, 2021 3 hours ago, jack D and coke said: Listened to and watched someΒ of Sarwar lately. Another utter Jack n Danny he isΒ Β He's a snake. Always has been. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manaliveits105 Posted April 28, 2021 Share Posted April 28, 2021 Anas becoming a target for insults he must be getting under the separatists skinsΒ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackLadd Posted April 28, 2021 Share Posted April 28, 2021 1 hour ago, Roxy Hearts said: He's a snake. Always has been. Β Know him personally do you? Has he lied to committees or assaulted any female staffers?Β Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seymour M Hersh Posted April 28, 2021 Share Posted April 28, 2021 1 hour ago, manaliveits105 said: Anas becoming a target for insults he must be getting under the separatists skinsΒ Β To be fair his is a slippery individual. Wealthy family with history (dad) kids at expensive private school. Just your run of the mill defender of the workers!Β Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roxy Hearts Posted April 28, 2021 Share Posted April 28, 2021 4 hours ago, manaliveits105 said: Anas becoming a target for insults he must be getting under the separatists skinsΒ I haven't seen any of the political stuff recently but I know by watching and listening to him a few years ago he's not to be trusted.Β Β 3 hours ago, JackLadd said: Β Know him personally do you? Has he lied to committees or assaulted any female staffers?Β I wouldn't want to know him or any other unionist toady. Has he lied, probably, he's a politician! Don't know about female staffers unless you do? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackLadd Posted April 28, 2021 Share Posted April 28, 2021 47 minutes ago, Roxy Hearts said: I wouldn't want to know him or any other unionist toady. Has he lied, probably, he's a politician! Don't know about female staffers unless you do? Β You don't like himΒ because you're a cultist allergic to facts.Β Folk talking sense like Sarwar send you scurrying back under your stone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roxy Hearts Posted April 28, 2021 Share Posted April 28, 2021 1 hour ago, JackLadd said: Β You don't like himΒ because you're a cultist allergic to facts.Β Folk talking sense like Sarwar send you scurrying back under your stone. If Sarwar floats your boat thenΒ it will sink! He's an absolute roaster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Des Lynam Posted April 29, 2021 Share Posted April 29, 2021 https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/19264463.scottish-independence-lord-ashcroft-poll-finds-51-no-versus-49-yes/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Dan Posted April 29, 2021 Share Posted April 29, 2021 https://2sjjwunnql41ia7ki31qqub1-wpengine.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/04/Final_38028217-Scotland-Poll-Scotsman-20210421_Private.pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Dan Posted April 29, 2021 Share Posted April 29, 2021 https://2sjjwunnql41ia7ki31qqub1-wpengine.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/04/Final_38028217-Scotland-Poll-Scotsman-20210421_Private.pdf Β Support for the SNP slipping in both the election and the independence front. Β Β Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackLadd Posted April 29, 2021 Share Posted April 29, 2021 12 hours ago, Boy Daniel said: https://2sjjwunnql41ia7ki31qqub1-wpengine.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/04/Final_38028217-Scotland-Poll-Scotsman-20210421_Private.pdf Β Support for the SNP slipping in both the election and the independence front. Β Β Β Β Oh dear, weeΒ shame, never mind.Β Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gizmo Posted April 29, 2021 Share Posted April 29, 2021 On 28/04/2021 at 21:32, JackLadd said: Β You don't like himΒ because you're a cultist allergic to facts.Β Folk talking sense like Sarwar send you scurrying back under your stone. Watch Sarwar when he goes off script - he's utterly glakit. Still, that aside - his other qualities include being part of a dynasty of corruption, not paying his staff the living wage and revealing his champagne socialist credentials by sending his kids to public school.Β Definitely the guy to take poor, council school attending kids out of poverty imo.Β Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackLadd Posted April 29, 2021 Share Posted April 29, 2021 Just now, Gizmo said: Watch Sarwar when he goes off script - he's utterly glakit. Still, that aside - his other qualities include being part of a dynasty of corruption, not paying his staff the living wage and revealing his champagne socialist credentials by sending his kids to public school.Β Definitely the guy to take poor, council school attending kids out of poverty imo.Β Β Haven't seen enough to gauge him although I'm not overly impressed. Undecided whether to vote Rennie or wee Ross. Rennie might be edging it.Β Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gizmo Posted April 29, 2021 Share Posted April 29, 2021 Β 1 minute ago, JackLadd said: Β Haven't seen enough to gauge him although I'm not overly impressed. Undecided whether to vote Rennie or wee Ross. Rennie might be edging it.Β Rennie is just the wee guy in a playground that might have the odd good idea but gets ignored. Ross is definitely turning off the tory voter base by most polls - whom SarwarΒ mayΒ pick up a couple of seats from the floating unionist voters - which will be better than Leonard, Dugdale or Murphy managed. Can't say I've ever seen Sarwar as trustworthy but then Labour lost me a long time ago - Lamont in particular ruined that party and treated the voter base like they were scum.Β Hope that's a reasonable response since your post wasn't a troll or attack - fair's fair.Β Β Β Β Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manaliveits105 Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 19 hours ago, Boy Daniel said: https://2sjjwunnql41ia7ki31qqub1-wpengine.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/04/Final_38028217-Scotland-Poll-Scotsman-20210421_Private.pdf Β Support for the SNP slipping in both the election and the independence front. Β Β Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manaliveits105 Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 I will just leave that thereΒ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 1 hour ago, manaliveits105 said: I will just leave that thereΒ An Indy ref will not happen until at least 2024 just before the end of the nextΒ parliament . This will give NS and others enough earnings / pension to semi Retire as they know when it is a No then thatβs the end game fir her andΒ others . I honestly cannot seen the electorate voting yes when push comes to shove .Β Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mars plastic Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 15 minutes ago, JamesM48 said: An Indy ref will not happen until at least 2024 just before the end of the nextΒ parliament . This will give NS and others enough earnings / pension to semi Retire as they know when it is a No then thatβs the end game fir her andΒ others . I honestly cannot seen the electorate voting yes when push comes to shove .Β It'll most certainly be a no for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack D and coke Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 6 minutes ago, Mars plastic said: It'll most certainly be a no for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mysterion Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 44 minutes ago, JamesM48 said: An Indy ref will not happen until at least 2024 just before the end of the nextΒ parliament . This will give NS and others enough earnings / pension to semi Retire as they know when it is a No then thatβs the end game fir her andΒ others . I honestly cannot seen the electorate voting yes when push comes to shove .Β Β Right now i think we're seeing people fed up of the last few months of SNP infighting along with a concern over how we recover from Covid and Brexit. Β The general trend is that younger voters are more inclined to be open to Indie - we're getting more of them and will see that Β positive % creep up over time IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mars plastic Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 32 minutes ago, jack D and coke said: Alas, I'm a traitor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 5 minutes ago, Mysterion said: Β Right now i think we're seeing people fed up of the last few months of SNP infighting along with a concern over how we recover from Covid and Brexit. Β The general trend is that younger voters are more inclined to be open to Indie - we're getting more of them and will see that Β positive % creep up over time IMO. Yes I think you are right . But the priority should be to recover from covid and get the economy up and running again the think about a ref Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackLadd Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 20 minutes ago, JamesM48 said: the priority should be to recover from covid and get the economy up and running again before thinkingΒ about a ref Β Don't forget Albaman says he isΒ ... Β Β Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coconut doug Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 30 minutes ago, JamesM48 said: Yes I think you are right . But the priority should be to recover from covid and get the economy up and running again the think about a ref Β Which parts of our economy are not up and running and what needs to be done to help them that cannot be done during a referendum? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown user Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 8 minutes ago, coconut doug said: Β Which parts of our economy are not up and running and what needs to be done to help them that cannot be done during a referendum? It's that whole "they should be concentrating on winning games, no speaking to the media" thing, there's absolutely no reason a government of hundreds couldn't deal with more than one concept at a time, it's a ridiculous arrow to sling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coconut doug Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 15 minutes ago, Smithee said: It's that whole "they should be concentrating on winning games, no speaking to the media" thing, there's absolutely no reason a government of hundreds couldn't deal with more than one concept at a time, it's a ridiculous arrow to sling. Β Brexit is damaging the economy. It was o.k. to do that during the pandemic but not indy.Β Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seymour M Hersh Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 13 hours ago, JackLadd said: Β Haven't seen enough to gauge him although I'm not overly impressed. Undecided whether to vote Rennie or wee Ross. Rennie might be edging it.Β Β A wasted vote with Rennie.Β Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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