JudyJudyJudy Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 30 minutes ago, AlimOzturk said: I support independence but don’t want another ref for at least 5 years. Genuinely can’t see Indy ref 2 going down a peaceful route unless people get to calm the **** down and have a sense of normality for a while. Same . 30 minutes ago, Brighton Jambo said: That’s politics. And if I may remind you the real fuel in this fire came from Alex Salmond not Labour or the Tories but by a former SNP first minister. Yep. 20 minutes ago, Brighton Jambo said: Let’s wait and see shall we. If they don’t get a majority it’s not failed at all. So far it’s worked a treat, SNP falling in polls, support for Indy dropping and no ahead (edit: in some polls), her personal ratings falling. If you really think today just wipes all that away you are more naive than anyone. But as I said let’s wait till the election as all speculation till then. Yes its not much of any victory today. Her reputation is certainly tarnished. The sheen is off that well polished figurine. Opinion polls consistently saying no to Independence and I can bet they will lose a few seats at the election. 18 minutes ago, Mikey1874 said: What failed initially was the campaign to put Salmond in jail. Exactly. An absolute disgrace and scandal this went to court. The Procurator fiscal only takes cases to court that they believe will secure a conviction. I believe the SG were told this but they still pursued their vendetta against AS and it back fired spectacularly. I think he may have some more tricks up his sleeve in the next few weeks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlimOzturk Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 7 minutes ago, Victorian said: All failures have been acknowledged and some of them were things that politicians could not have prevented. The fallout from it was hijacked and abused for political gain. The victims have been utterly used and abused. What victims? Then women? Why are they still being called victims? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Konrad von Carstein Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 Some of our Pound Shop Bojo's will need to be sung a wee lullaby to get them calm enough to sleep tonight... So anger Much hilarity Sides hurtin' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 Just now, AlimOzturk said: What victims? Then women? Why are they still being called victims? Exactly. And Sturgeon still describes them as " victims". More like a coven of witches . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 Just now, AlimOzturk said: What victims? Then women? Why are they still being called victims? Salmond is an innocent man. I stand by the description victims. Victims in the first instance? No comment. Victims in the aftermath? Absolutely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gizmo Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 51 minutes ago, Victorian said: "We're not going to pre-judge the report as the Tories have done... " Jackie Baillie. SCOTLAB grasping desperately at the fall-back consolation prize. Has she been outed as the leaker yet? 😄 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OmiyaHearts Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 1 hour ago, Enzo Chiefo said: Scotlamd is rotten to the core and Sturgeon's pick n mix view of democracy will be on show again tomorrow. She is damaged goods though and the country has the chance to send these divisive crooks and charlatans packing in May. Vote tactically and get them to ****. If we get independence, they'll dissolve. What about that tactic? Sounds good to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Dan Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 1 hour ago, manaliveits105 said: “ a genuine failure of recollection” how can anyone possibly know that and actually put it in writing beggars belief hopefully a lot more to come on this on run up to elections with the exception of the cult the good Scottish people hate liars That’s what I thought as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 Just now, Gizmo said: Has she been outed as the leaker yet? 😄 She said to Krishnan Guru Murthy "let's see what's in the report... ". He replied "you know what's in it... ". She couldn't even leak it to herself it seems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Konrad von Carstein Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 3 minutes ago, Gizmo said: Has she been outed as the leaker yet? 😄 1 minute ago, Victorian said: She said to Krishnan Guru Murthy "let's see what's in the report... ". He replied "you know what's in it... ". She couldn't even leak it to herself it seems. Had her down as more of an oozer and perspirer rather than a leaker... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamstomorrow Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 My guess is that she will stand down next year. Closely followed by getting divorced. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 1 minute ago, Konrad von Carstein said: Had her down as more of an oozer and perspirer rather than a leaker... Well she ended up a puddle after that interview. An embarrassment to Scottish politics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2 Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 16 minutes ago, Pasquale for King said: It would be if he or any Tory was ever cleared of the daily lies, ministerial code breaches or corrupt deals they do like the £39b for a track and trace system that doesn’t work. I think we need to concentrate on what is going on here just now rather than creating fog to divert from the issues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckydug Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 3 minutes ago, JamesM48 said: Exactly. And Sturgeon still describes them as " victims". More like a coven of witches . True colours coming out now. BTW you are miles out with your predictions re the election. The public were being fed the 'Sturgeon bad' line by the media and now that the facts have been presented the small decreases in support will be replaced by a surge in support. The witch hunt has failed and the Tories will suffer for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlimOzturk Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 (edited) 11 minutes ago, JamesM48 said: Exactly. And Sturgeon still describes them as " victims". More like a coven of witches . They made their complaints and their complaints got thrown out by a majority female jury ran by a female judge. This to me is justification to throw any tag of “victim” in the bin. In any case I am not comfortable calling anyone a victim, especially under not clear cut case like this, in the first place because it presumes guilt. That’s not fair. 10 minutes ago, Victorian said: Salmond is an innocent man. I stand by the description victims. Victims in the first instance? No comment. Victims in the aftermath? Absolutely. They aren’t victims in any sense. If they have something to say then say it and don’t hide behind a cloak of immunity. Alex Salmond was never offered the same privileges of immunity as his character and career was ruined despite an apparent “innocent until proven guilty” bullshit line being branded about by the justice system. They made the allegations and the jury didn’t believe them. That speaks volumes. Time for them to either stand up and be counted or continue to hide. Edited March 22, 2021 by AlimOzturk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Konrad von Carstein Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Victorian said: Well she ended up a puddle after that interview. An embarrassment to Scottish politics. Labour politicians like her and the Glesga mafia that had a stranglehold on Labour in Scotland are the reason I went from voting for a monkey wearing a red rosette to having no intention to vote for them ever again, even in an independent Scotland, with a REAL Scottish Labour party to vote for... Edited March 22, 2021 by Konrad von Carstein Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudy T Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 She’s a highly competent politician who spent her apprenticeship to become the nations leader with Salmond, but forgets ‘that’ meeting I’m just not buying it, cleared or not she’s at it. Don’t trust any of them none of them appear to mind a bit of truth twisting to get votes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 Just now, AlimOzturk said: They made their complaints and there complaint got thrown out by a majority female jury ran by a female judge. This to me is justification to throw any tag of “victim” in the bin. I any case I am not comfortable calling anyone a victim, especially under not clear cut case like this, in the first place because it presumes guilt. That’s not fair. They aren’t victims in any sense. If they have something to say then say it and don’t hide behind a cloak of immunity. Alex Salmond was never offered the same privileges of immunity as his character and career was ruined despite an apparent “innocent until proven guilty” bullshit line being branded about by the justice system. They made the allegations and the jury didn’t believe them. That speaks volumes. Time for them to either stand up and men counted or continue to hide. Yes unfortunately the word " victim" is incredibly overused and misused nowadays. It seems everyone is a " victim" of something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fxxx the SPFL Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 12 minutes ago, Gizmo said: Has she been outed as the leaker yet? 😄 aye she got the wrong size of Tena ladies Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 (edited) 4 minutes ago, AlimOzturk said: They made their complaints and there complaint got thrown out by a majority female jury ran by a female judge. This to me is justification to throw any tag of “victim” in the bin. I any case I am not comfortable calling anyone a victim, especially under not clear cut case like this, in the first place because it presumes guilt. That’s not fair. They aren’t victims in any sense. If they have something to say then say it and don’t hide behind a cloak of immunity. Alex Salmond was never offered the same privileges of immunity as his character and career was ruined despite an apparent “innocent until proven guilty” bullshit line being branded about by the justice system. They made the allegations and the jury didn’t believe them. That speaks volumes. Time for them to either stand up and men counted or continue to hide. The verdict is black and white. He's innocent. We both know there's much more to the legal system than that. There are thousands of innocent people who have things to thank for them remaining innocent. Edited March 22, 2021 by Victorian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamboy1982 Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 13 minutes ago, Victorian said: She said to Krishnan Guru Murthy "let's see what's in the report... ". He replied "you know what's in it... ". She couldn't even leak it to herself it seems. The Scottish government were given the findings this morning. That’s how they knew. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 Just now, jamboy1982 said: The Scottish government were given the findings this morning. That’s how they knew. They were talking about the MP's report. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 4 minutes ago, luckydug said: True colours coming out now. BTW you are miles out with your predictions re the election. The public were being fed the 'Sturgeon bad' line by the media and now that the facts have been presented the small decreases in support will be replaced by a surge in support. The witch hunt has failed and the Tories will suffer for it. Eh? Ive been very clear regarding my lack of support for Sturgeon now. No " true colours" coming out now. No surprises. Like i said most politicians are lying conniving scum bags and in it for themselves really. Only politicians I have had any respect for have been Tony Benn, Jeremy Corbyn . Michael Foot and historically Clement Atlee. I have had hardly interest in this carry on as its what i expect politicians to get up , Salmon , Sturgeon et al. Vipers nest really. The SNP will be propped up again by the Green snotters party in May. Nothing new. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 10 minutes ago, H2 said: I think we need to concentrate on what is going on here just now rather than creating fog to divert from the issues. Ira slightly hypocritical of Ross/Davidson etc to moan about stuff, when their superiors do it. What do you think happened then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Konrad von Carstein Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 1 minute ago, JamesM48 said: Eh? Ive been very clear regarding my lack of support for Sturgeon now. No " true colours" coming out now. No surprises. Like i said most politicians are lying conniving scum bags and in it for themselves really. Only politicians I have had any respect for have been Tony Benn, Jeremy Corbyn . Michael Foot and historically Clement Atlee. I have had hardly interest in this carry on as its what i expect politicians to get up , Salmon , Sturgeon et al. Vipers nest really. The SNP will be propped up again by the Green snotters party in May. Nothing new. We've now reached Balgreen Nursery Debate Club levels now... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckydug Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 This morning this independent report was regarded as impartial. What happened ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 Just now, Konrad von Carstein said: We've now reached Balgreen Nursery Debate Club levels now... LOL LOL made me laugh. Its my level regarding politics really. Its how i feel about it all. Total disinterested. I thought it was quite funny though....... reminds me we used to say that " Scottish Nose Pickers " party as bairns. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Konrad von Carstein Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 Just now, JamesM48 said: LOL LOL made me laugh. Its my level regarding politics really. Its how i feel about it all. Total disinterested. I thought it was quite funny though....... reminds me we used to say that " Scottish Nose Pickers " party as bairns. Yep...I recall that too I'm now one of them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamboy1982 Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 Biggest backfire in Scottish political history!! Crying into their Union Jack hankies tonight!! All the boris arse lickers 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Maroonblood Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 4 minutes ago, jamboy1982 said: Biggest backfire in Scottish political history!! Crying into their Union Jack hankies tonight!! All the boris arse lickers 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roxy Hearts Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 19 minutes ago, Konrad von Carstein said: Labour politicians like her and the Glesga mafia that had a stranglehold on Labour in Scotland are the reason I went from voting for a monkey wearing a red rosette to having no intention to vote for them ever again, even in an independent Scotland, with a REAL Scottish Labour party to vote for... Where I'm at too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NANOJAMBO Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 2 hours ago, Enzo Chiefo said: Scotlamd is rotten to the core and Sturgeon's pick n mix view of democracy will be on show again tomorrow. She is damaged goods though and the country has the chance to send these divisive crooks and charlatans packing in May. Vote tactically and get them to ****. What a weird attitude to electing your government. Anyone But Nicola ? Anyone ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 7 minutes ago, Konrad von Carstein said: Yep...I recall that too I'm now one of them I must admit Im taking some pleasure in the news today as I have a friend on Facebook and i mean a real friend who is a rabid unionist . We used to argue almost every day before the run up to Indy 2014 and she was posting celebratory pics of partying after the results Union flags the lot. She posts every single day without faiil about NS . Its actually obsessive and draining. I had to limit the posts I saw from her. But shes very very quiet today... she will be gutted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roxy Hearts Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 10 minutes ago, jamboy1982 said: Biggest backfire in Scottish political history!! Crying into their Union Jack hankies tonight!! All the boris arse lickers 😂 It's wonderful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucky Thompson Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 So what happens tomorrow when the Holyrood committee find her guilty, does it go to penalties? What a load of fecking shite Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Montgomery Brewster Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 32 minutes ago, Rudy T said: She’s a highly competent politician who spent her apprenticeship to become the nations leader with Salmond, but forgets ‘that’ meeting I’m just not buying it, cleared or not she’s at it. Don’t trust any of them none of them appear to mind a bit of truth twisting to get votes. The old adage “ how can you tell a politician is lying - their lips are moving “ should Always be your mantra. As my character used to say “ vote none of the above “. still saying that it is rather amusing for the tories. 😁 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Nucky Thompson said: So what happens tomorrow when the Holyrood committee find her guilty, does it go to penalties? What a load of fecking shite No. The partisan cretins just look more cretinous and partisan. The puppet court and their party leaders have utterly trashed the reputation of the parliament for a short sighted fool's errand. This is not what Donald Dewar had in mind when he campaigned for the parliament. He would be mortified by this. Edited March 22, 2021 by Victorian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan_R Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 2 hours ago, Enzo Chiefo said: Scotlamd is rotten to the core and Sturgeon's pick n mix view of democracy will be on show again tomorrow. She is damaged goods though and the country has the chance to send these divisive crooks and charlatans packing in May. Vote tactically and get them to ****. Voting tactically ensures even bigger crooks. I don't see the logic? For me independence is one of the few (only) way to change the status quo for the better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Maroonblood Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 18 minutes ago, JamesM48 said: I must admit Im taking some pleasure in the news today as I have a friend on Facebook and i mean a real friend who is a rabid unionist . We used to argue almost every day before the run up to Indy 2014 and she was posting celebratory pics of partying after the results Union flags the lot. She posts every single day without faiil about NS . Its actually obsessive and draining. I had to limit the posts I saw from her. But shes very very quiet today... she will be gutted. The OP is also very quiet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pans Jambo Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 1 hour ago, Mikey1874 said: The Times... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pans Jambo Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 Just now, The Real Maroonblood said: The OP is also very quiet. Hes not up yet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Maroonblood Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 Just now, Pans Jambo said: Hes not up yet Was thinking the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spellczech Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 I don't mind Sturgeon (apart from the calls for another Indyref). I couldn't really care if she was told by a civil servant on the 29th or by Salmond himself 3 days later... However, I don't think there is much strength in depth in the SNP though and I don't like "Mr Sturgeon" at all... Problem with Scottish politics is how crap all the other parties which are bossed from Westminster are... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armageddon Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 3 hours ago, jonesy said: Wouldn't trust her if she told me today was Monday. How many grown adults need to be told the day of the week?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armageddon Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 Gawn yirsel Nicky! Get it right up the haters Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarah O Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 Brit Nats foaming at the mouth in fury is good enough for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 3 minutes ago, Armageddon said: Gawn yirsel Nicky! Get it right up the haters Flag shaggers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roxy Hearts Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 17 minutes ago, Pans Jambo said: Hes not up yet Only comes out at night slavering and waffling. According to him the SNP are getting obliterated! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Maroonblood Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 11 minutes ago, Armageddon said: How many grown adults need to be told the day of the week?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Natural Order Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 They'll be proudly goose stepping through the corridors of Holyrood tonight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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