Gordon7co Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 Robbo had some rant about Greg Aitken on Alba after game for sending off and disallowed goal, not the first time decisions against them from him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Drew Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 Another incorrect decision which tells you everything you need to know. Some things in life NEVER change. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lovecraft Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 And people wonder why other countries laugh at Scottish football. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry Haggis Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 3 hours ago, HoGwash said: There only seem to be 4 people in Scotland that think this decision is reasonable. The 3 morons on the tribunal and Forever Hearts. 10/10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Findlay Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 (edited) 38 minutes ago, Paolo said: Yep. Good old Brines. Another corrupt and incompetent official. Brines sent him off in the 2-2 draw at ER when Webster headed the equaliser, it was a penalty to Hibs. Zal fouled the Hibs player in the box. He was red carded, for denying the Hibs player a goalscoring opportunity. The only problem was the ball was high in the air at the time. The late Glen Gibbins ripped Brines a new one in the Scotsman the following Monday with the headline of his piece being. THE BALL WAS IN THE AIR. Edited February 20, 2020 by John Findlay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fort Vallance Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 We need to get the best we can get. It's never going to please everyone. Gary Holt reckons it should be a selection of perm 4 from 6 and reeled off 3 ex Aberdeen players, hardly impartial. I can't decide whether the current system is tainted with dishonesty or genuine incompetence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnthomas Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 3 minutes ago, Fort Vallance said: We need to get the best we can get. It's never going to please everyone. Gary Holt reckons it should be a selection of perm 4 from 6 and reeled off 3 ex Aberdeen players, hardly impartial. I can't decide whether the current system is tainted with dishonesty or genuine incompetence. 3 ex Aberdeen players . One (Miller) who has proved numerous times that he doesn't actually know the rules . The other gave Lewis Stevenson a cap ! Third one is called Strachan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 48 minutes ago, Gordon7co said: Robbo had some rant about Greg Aitken on Alba after game for sending off and disallowed goal, not the first time decisions against them from him. He'll be getting pulled up for it. Which won't help the SFA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fort Vallance Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 13 minutes ago, johnthomas said: 3 ex Aberdeen players . One (Miller) who has proved numerous times that he doesn't actually know the rules . The other gave Lewis Stevenson a cap ! Third one is called Strachan I rest my case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown user Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 9 hours ago, Forever Hearts said: Utterly obsessed with a dead club and its players. Strange. When did Morelos play for Rangers RIP? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forever Hearts Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 5 hours ago, HoGwash said: There only seem to be 4 people in Scotland that think this decision is reasonable. The 3 morons on the tribunal and Forever Hearts. Can you show me where I said the decision was "reasonable"? In your own time. 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwidoug Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 I've watched this and read all the comments on here. I've had a good think and tried my best to be dispassionate. Conclusion. That is an astoundingly bad decision by the panel and it doesn't reflect well on the referee either. There should be consequences for this. I would like to know who the panelists are and how they are appointed. I would also like every other club to demand a meeting with the authorities to thrash this out. This decision is a genuine outrage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown user Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 13 hours ago, trotter said: Underrated joke Ah you never know what'll land, I was proud of hunder 21s myself Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown user Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 11 hours ago, jake said: Too late . Tut tut tut. Hunderstandable Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forever Hearts Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 8 hours ago, Smithee said: When did Morelos play for Rangers RIP? Dunno. I leave the obsession over them to sad people like you. 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown user Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 5 minutes ago, Forever Hearts said: Dunno. I leave the obsession over them to sad people like you. 👍 You brought up the dead club, not me. Obsessed much? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Maroonblood Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 2 minutes ago, Smithee said: You brought up the dead club, not me. Obsessed much? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forever Hearts Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 7 minutes ago, Smithee said: You brought up the dead club, not me. Obsessed much? Aye, because you never mention them. Sad much? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown user Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 2 minutes ago, Forever Hearts said: Aye, because you never mention them. Sad much? Not at all, I'm just in from work, best bit of the day! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forever Hearts Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 1 minute ago, Smithee said: Not at all, I'm just in from work, best bit of the day! Good. You'll be going to Paisley this evening I take it? I'll be there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DETTY29 Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 (edited) 9 hours ago, Fort Vallance said: We need to get the best we can get. It's never going to please everyone. Gary Holt reckons it should be a selection of perm 4 from 6 and reeled off 3 ex Aberdeen players, hardly impartial. I can't decide whether the current system is tainted with dishonesty or genuine incompetence. If there is demographic within the game that understand the laws of the game least, players must be right up there. Edited February 21, 2020 by DETTY29 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown user Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 2 minutes ago, Forever Hearts said: Good. You'll be going to Paisley this evening I take it? I'll be there. Can you guess what shift I work Einstein? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forever Hearts Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 8 minutes ago, Smithee said: Can you guess what shift I work Einstein? That'll be a no then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DETTY29 Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 (edited) We need to see the full written output but the key factor (from Sportsound) with this one appears to be that the ref is refusing to back down to say that he has made a mistake and that the independent panel of which only one needs to be a 'laws' specialist has backed him. What isn't clear yet is whether the referee has or needs to look at different angles retrospectively or just said from what he saw at the game and in real time he is convinced he didn't make an error. The SFA have committed to transparency and providing output for the full submissions and decisions however I'm struggling to find anything online, not just for this one, but previous ones. I'm sure however I've seen the odd one before, but that may have been a leak from one of the clubs via the press. Edited February 21, 2020 by DETTY29 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 To think people want VAR in Scottish football. Dangerous Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flem Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 8 minutes ago, Jeff said: To think people want VAR in Scottish football. Dangerous VAR would only work well for the Glasgow arse cheeks. The rest would be screwed over even more so than they are already IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown user Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 13 minutes ago, Forever Hearts said: That'll be a no then. Ah you're no as daft as I thought! All I did was ask when morelos played for the dead club by the way, it's no me throwing accusations your way. You're no half zesty in the morning eh? 1 minute ago, flem said: VAR would only work well for the Glasgow arse cheeks. The rest would be screwed over even more so than they are already IMO. Yep Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forever Hearts Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 44 minutes ago, Smithee said: Ah you're no as daft as I thought! All I did was ask when morelos played for the dead club by the way, it's no me throwing accusations your way. You're no half zesty in the morning eh? I'm fine. I'm stopping work at 1.30pm then me and my son are heading to Paisley (if the game is on) for some pre match pints. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasAndy Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 Scottish Football will always be a joke as long as it's run by small men with small minds. It's not even close to being a dive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Jambo Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 1 hour ago, DETTY29 said: We need to see the full written output but the key factor (from Sportsound) with this one appears to be that the ref is refusing to back down to say that he has made a mistake and that the independent panel of which only one needs to be a 'laws' specialist has backed him. What isn't clear yet is whether the referee has or needs to look at different angles retrospectively or just said from what he saw at the game and in real time he is convinced he didn't make an error. The SFA have committed to transparency and providing output for the full submissions and decisions however I'm struggling to find anything online, not just for this one, but previous ones. I'm sure however I've seen the odd one before, but that may have been a leak from one of the clubs via the press. There was an interesting discussion of this on the Terrace podcast (yesterday's episode, right at the start for anyone who wants to listen). Last season the SFA sent then the process document for how the panels worked. They were clear the ref is asked to provide a statement of why he gave a decision, but is explicitly not to give a view on whether he made a mistake. I'm sure that it was previously the case that they could only overturn a decision if the ref said he thought he had got it wrong, so possibly Sportsound are just out of date (I find a lot of the chat on sportsound very ill-informed). The other couple of interesting bits about how they make the decision were that it is a majority decision not unanimous required to overturn, so at least two of the panel thought it was a dive. They did say people at the SFA say privately that they are sometime baffled by the verdicts that come back from the panel. They also mentioned that Michael Stewart has said he was asked by the SFA to sit on panels, so there presumably are ex-players in the pool. Even if the SFA don't want to provide names, some kind of breakdown of the types of people in the pool would surely be possible (eg. 33% ex-players, 33% ex-refs, 33% lawyers total 50 people.). Another thing I noticed was Malky Mackay was on sportscene at the weekend giving his views on the highlights including the Hamilton red card. He agreed with Steven Thompson that it shouldn't have been red. Surely a senior SFA employee shouldn't be giving that kind of opinion in the media before the appeal process has concluded. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Governor Tarkin Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 2 hours ago, Smithee said: Can you guess what shift I work Einstein? Pow! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shooter McGavin Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 Anything that affects a team out-with Glasgow doesn’t get much attention. Seriously embarrassing decision. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forever Hearts Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 18 minutes ago, Governor Tarkin said: Pow! It's almost as if some people's shift patterns don't change. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hearts_fan Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 23 hours ago, Forever Hearts said: As if James Keatings would be giving a shit if that was a Hearts player on the wrong end of that decision. No sympathy for him whatsoever. A bitter and twisted post if ever there was one. I think you'll find this discussion is not about sympathy for James Keatings, although any fair minded person would feel sympathy for him in this situation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forever Hearts Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 2 minutes ago, Hearts_fan said: A bitter and twisted post if ever there was one. I think you'll find this discussion is not about sympathy for James Keatings, although any fair minded person would feel sympathy for him in this situation. My sympathy lies with Inverness Caledonian Thistle and Robbo. Not that little Hibs rat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tian447 Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 (edited) 3 hours ago, Forever Hearts said: Good. You'll be going to Paisley this evening I take it? I'll be there. Ahh, the old "I'm going to a game, so I'm a better Hearts supporter than you, and therefore my opinion counts more than yours" chestnut. Thread's over lads, we can't compete with that. Edited February 21, 2020 by tian447 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forever Hearts Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 6 minutes ago, tian447 said: Ahh, the old "I'm going to a game, so I'm a better Hearts supporter than you, and therefore my opinion counts more than yours" chestnut. Thread's over lads, we can't compete with that. Not at all. I was merely pointing out that despite being called a Rangers fan I'll be in Paisley tonight supporting Hearts while those who were doing the name calling will be nowhere near it. 👍 Oh the irony. 🙄 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Maroonblood Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 9 minutes ago, tian447 said: Ahh, the old "I'm going to a game, so I'm a better Hearts supporter than you, and therefore my opinion counts more than yours" chestnut. Thread's over lads, we can't compete with that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusk_Till_Dawn Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 18 minutes ago, Forever Hearts said: My sympathy lies with Inverness Caledonian Thistle and Robbo. Not that little Hibs rat. I suspect the word you’re looking for isn’t Hibs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kila Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 I'd say get the sponsor involved but then I remembered it's Tunnock's... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milky_26 Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 2 hours ago, Forever Hearts said: I'm fine. I'm stopping work at 1.30pm then me and my son are heading to Paisley (if the game is on) for some pre match pints. sounds like you have already started Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forever Hearts Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 5 minutes ago, milky_26 said: sounds like you have already started What makes you say that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Governor Tarkin Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 1 hour ago, Forever Hearts said: It's almost as if some people's shift patterns don't change. It's almost as if you made yourself look stupid. 1 hour ago, Forever Hearts said: My sympathy lies with Inverness Caledonian Thistle and Robbo. Not that little Hibs rat. Charming. 58 minutes ago, tian447 said: Ahh, the old "I'm going to a game, so I'm a better Hearts supporter than you, and therefore my opinion counts more than yours" chestnut. Thread's over lads, we can't compete with that. Spot on. I'm out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forever Hearts Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 1 minute ago, Governor Tarkin said: It's almost as if you made yourself look stupid. Charming. Spot on. I'm out. Excellent contribution. 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
been here before Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 3 hours ago, Forever Hearts said: I'm fine. I'm stopping work at 1.30pm then me and my son are heading to Paisley (if the game is on) for some pre match pints. Sash bash? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forever Hearts Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 Just now, been here before said: Sash bash? Of course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Governor Tarkin Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 6 minutes ago, Forever Hearts said: Excellent contribution. 👍 As always. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinmaroon Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 NO CORRUPTION IN SCOTTISH FOOTBALL!!! So say some on here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinmaroon Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 6 hours ago, Forever Hearts said: Aye, because you never mention them. Sad much? To say the name is gut-gurgling enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwidoug Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 The more I think about this, the more I think it has to be deliberate and it has to be some form of corruption. It simply can't be an error or poor judgement. You couldn't ask for clearer evidence that the referee made an error. Why would they want to penalise a player and a club in the biscuit cup? It makes no rational sense and really requires an independent investigation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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