Jambo-Fox Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 24 minutes ago, Redhelen said: Court case June June 1st I think. I hope if he (Barton) is convicted Stendel wins a large amount for damages... I remember reading at the time his face was quite badly hurt .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Governor Tarkin Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 15 minutes ago, Special Officer Doofy said: That’ll get the Record interested too. They love glorifying depraved murderous scumbags. Yes they do. It's quite depressing. I suppose they're just catering to their audience. Making horrible, sociopathic *******s out to be some kind of anti-heroes from a shan Guy Richie film. Gives folk something to aspire to. Does my nut in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown user Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 46 minutes ago, TheTrumpet said: Agreed, shocking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Boy Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 Just now, Governor Tarkin said: Yes they do. It's quite depressing. I suppose they're just catering to their audience. Making horrible, sociopathic *******s out to be some kind of anti-heroes from a shan Guy Richie film. Gives folk something to aspire to. Does my nut in. In our new explosive six part series, we reveal the truth of Greenock’s heroin trade, and the hard men who run. Nah, yer alright mate. Can’t really say I give a toss. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redhelen Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 12 minutes ago, Jambo-Fox said: I hope if he (Barton) is convicted Stendel wins a large amount for damages... I remember reading at the time his face was quite badly hurt .. Damaged his teeth and there was definitely blood because 2 of our players tweeted after it happened, but then deleted the tweets once the police were involved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Maroonblood Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 1 hour ago, Nucky Thompson said: I think he definitely is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dc-jambo Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 12 hours ago, ToadKiller Dog said: This isnt a battle between players and the manager , this is a fishing exercise by the sun to try and add sauce to the unsourced rumour it published . Us going down is a massive story for them ,hamilton or the midden isnt ,they will try to engineer such a situation ,its shat the tabloid arseholes do .Its a blatant attempt to turn us all against each other . So until I see hard fact not gossip to show different I will stand with the club ,the manager and the players and against the sun . In fact the club should revoke the suns privileges especially for the cup game . yesss! It’s a conspiracy!! Infamy infamy they’ve all got it infamy 🤯🤪 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seymour M Hersh Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 44 minutes ago, Dusk_Till_Dawn said: Equally amazed to see you blindly defending the club, which you’ll continue to do until relegation occurs (and probably afterwards too). People asked why we don’t ban the Sun - probably because there are elements of truth to this story and the club are wary of being called out. Where exactly am I "blindly defending the club"? Try to keep your fantasist tendencies under control for goodness sake. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merrymac Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 5 minutes ago, dc-jambo said: yesss! It’s a conspiracy!! Infamy infamy they’ve all got it infamy 🤯🤪 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToadKiller Dog Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 39 minutes ago, dc-jambo said: yesss! It’s a conspiracy!! Infamy infamy they’ve all got it infamy 🤯🤪 What are you wittering about ,standard tabloid tactics ,chase the rumour try to create a story , Push forward rumour as truth , its not a anti hearts thing ,its a big club in trouble story . Same would happen to the sheep or hibs in our position. As yet the rumours have no foundation but the story has generated clicks onto the sun page ,creating them money . Its created more gossip .to the point players the club even our supposed record mole has said its shit ( creating of course clicks for the daily record page) It's about how tabloids operate they do the same when chasing celebrities or politicians . Best way to deal with it win games get out of the bottom of the league . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
...a bit disco Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 1 hour ago, Special Officer Doofy said: In our new explosive six part series, we reveal the truth of Greenock’s heroin trade, and the hard men who run. Nah, yer alright mate. Can’t really say I give a toss. Says the courier on the Birmingham run. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Boy Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 3 minutes ago, ...a bit disco said: Says the courier on the Birmingham run. You're just pissed because you never made it in to their mini-series on Wester Hailles’ hardest men. Don’t sweat it though, if they do one on WH shortest men, you’ll be front cover news. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NRJ1966 Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 4 hours ago, Mr Elwood P said: shit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Beni of Gorgie Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 Think Elwood P is getting a hard time to be honest. Outside of Edinburgh Stendel is not very highly rated, less so than Levein I'd say. If you get out of the Hearts camp and talk to fans of other clubs, they seem quite happy we have gone from one ridiculous extreme to the other whilst gaining even less points per game. Leveins time was clearly up in the summer for me, personally I would have been happy if we had done something back then. The timing has been shit but quite frankly Stendel has done little to convince anyone other than those who are desperate for him to be a success for their own egos, he's the answer. Mistakes just keep happening. Time is running out he says. Stendel roulette I've seen his team selection named, goes for his tactics too. Some should swallow pride and admit this is not what they expected. There is still time for him but by this juncture, with pretty much all of our better choices there, we should have more wins on the board Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadj Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 1 hour ago, ...a bit disco said: Says the courier on the Birmingham run. Brilliant 😂😂😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadj Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 1 hour ago, Special Officer Doofy said: You're just pissed because you never made it in to their mini-series on Wester Hailles’ hardest men. Don’t sweat it though, if they do one on WH shortest men, you’ll be front cover news. Won’t take up much space if he does 👍🏻 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Kilpatrick Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 18 minutes ago, Sir Gio said: Think Elwood P is getting a hard time to be honest. Outside of Edinburgh Stendel is not very highly rated, less so than Levein I'd say. If you get out of the Hearts camp and talk to fans of other clubs, they seem quite happy we have gone from one ridiculous extreme to the other whilst gaining even less points per game. Leveins time was clearly up in the summer for me, personally I would have been happy if we had done something back then. The timing has been shit but quite frankly Stendel has done little to convince anyone other than those who are desperate for him to be a success for their own egos, he's the answer. Mistakes just keep happening. Time is running out he says. Stendel roulette I've seen his team selection named, goes for his tactics too. Some should swallow pride and admit this is not what they expected. There is still time for him but by this juncture, with pretty much all of our better choices there, we should have more wins on the board Perhaps because he suggested Levein should return? Just saying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan Hunt Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 11 hours ago, Ari Gold said: I'd back the manager over the group of players anyway. Likewise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan Hunt Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 (edited) 7 hours ago, Mr Elwood P said: I thought you supported Barnsley? Well now @Redhelen is more of a Hearts supporter than you! Edited February 19, 2020 by Ethan Hunt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown user Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 8 minutes ago, Ethan Hunt said: Well now @Redhelen is more of a Hearts supporter than you! PHW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan Hunt Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 1 hour ago, Sir Gio said: Think Elwood P is getting a hard time to be honest. Outside of Edinburgh Stendel is not very highly rated, less so than Levein I'd say. If you get out of the Hearts camp and talk to fans of other clubs, they seem quite happy we have gone from one ridiculous extreme to the other whilst gaining even less points per game. Leveins time was clearly up in the summer for me, personally I would have been happy if we had done something back then. The timing has been shit but quite frankly Stendel has done little to convince anyone other than those who are desperate for him to be a success for their own egos, he's the answer. Mistakes just keep happening. Time is running out he says. Stendel roulette I've seen his team selection named, goes for his tactics too. Some should swallow pride and admit this is not what they expected. There is still time for him but by this juncture, with pretty much all of our better choices there, we should have more wins on the board What other fans think of Hearts - be that of the manager, players, stand, or the quality of tea we sell, is of no concern to me. To use that as any kind of argument is frankly ludicrous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTrumpet Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 1 hour ago, Sir Gio said: Think Elwood P is getting a hard time to be honest. Outside of Edinburgh Stendel is not very highly rated, less so than Levein I'd say. If you get out of the Hearts camp and talk to fans of other clubs, they seem quite happy we have gone from one ridiculous extreme to the other whilst gaining even less points per game. Leveins time was clearly up in the summer for me, personally I would have been happy if we had done something back then. The timing has been shit but quite frankly Stendel has done little to convince anyone other than those who are desperate for him to be a success for their own egos, he's the answer. Mistakes just keep happening. Time is running out he says. Stendel roulette I've seen his team selection named, goes for his tactics too. Some should swallow pride and admit this is not what they expected. There is still time for him but by this juncture, with pretty much all of our better choices there, we should have more wins on the board Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTrumpet Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 (edited) A voice of sanity. Great post. 👆👆👆 Edited February 19, 2020 by TheTrumpet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ToqueJambo Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 9 hours ago, jambo_74 said: I understand that, in fact, I alluded to the problems continuing using the current system. However, we adopted an extremely cautious approach under Levein. Do you think we need to meet somewhere in the middle between Levein and Stendel, at least in the interim? That person is John Robertson. Has the love of Hearts and knowledge of the club and Scottish football of Levein and the likeable personality and more attacking philosophy of Stendel (although not as attacking obviously, I don't think I've ever seen a manager neglect the defensive side of the game the way he has, certainly not a Hearts manager.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bull's-eye Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 6 hours ago, sadj said: Brilliant 😂😂😂 Not a chance flying with Flybe and as pished as he was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bridge of Djoum Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 17 hours ago, Dusk_Till_Dawn said: Never thought I’d say this but I’m far more inclined to believe the Sun’s story than I am the club rebuttal of it. You're willing to believe anyone or anything that has a go at the club. A Hearts man you are not. The Sun has a long history of absolute lies, we all know this. To believe them over something you claim to love and support is laughable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldGorgie Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 48 minutes ago, Bridge of Djoum said: The Sun has a long history of absolute lies, we all know this. Absolutely. Possibly the worst being blaming Liverpool supporters for their deaths because the Sun said they were drunk. A complete and utter fabrication that caused untold additional misery for bereaving families. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusk_Till_Dawn Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 53 minutes ago, Bridge of Djoum said: You're willing to believe anyone or anything that has a go at the club. A Hearts man you are not. The Sun has a long history of absolute lies, we all know this. To believe them over something you claim to love and support is laughable. Bollocks mate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uche Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 (edited) Seriously worrying that we have a dressing room divide between management and players. Edited February 19, 2020 by Uche Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uche Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 12 hours ago, Mr Elwood P said: I’m not necessarily arguing for Craig Levein now, more than we need a change of system under Stendel or change manager (again). Is nobody concerned that we were a point or so behind Hibs, we’re still at the foot of the table, whilst Hibs are looking up at 3rd as a realistic target? Nothing separated the two teams, we had just won the Edinburgh Derby. They now sit 17 points above us! I was kindly reminded that there was 1 point between the teams when we sacked Levein and they sacked Heckinbottom. The fact that they are 17 points ahead of us now after 3 months (and the fact they are garbage) is a complete and utter piss-take/unforgivable IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldGorgie Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 17 minutes ago, Dusk_Till_Dawn said: Bollocks mate The facts show the opposite. The Sun has a long history of fabricating stories. A bit like a good few moaners on here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kila Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 12 minutes ago, Uche said: Seriously worrying that we have a dressing room divide between management and players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamtartally Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 Hearts players and fans need to come together as we are in a relegation dogfight. If we can get to the split on the same points on par with Hamilton and St Mirren the games after the split will be bouncing. Team talk for Friday is straight forward - these scumbags lay down in 1986 and we need to go out and blow them off the park. Sun are a bunch of Wegie scumbags who are mischief making. Any player or fan not up for the fight or getting behind the team for the rest of the games can sit at home and twiddle their thumbs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack D and coke Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 29 minutes ago, Uche said: Seriously worrying that we have a dressing room divide between management and players. We don’t. 21 minutes ago, Uche said: I was kindly reminded that there was 1 point between the teams when we sacked Levein and they sacked Heckinbottom. The fact that they are 17 points ahead of us now after 3 months (and the fact they are garbage) is a complete and utter piss-take/unforgivable IMO. Stop worrying about Hibs👍🏼 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Boy Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 37 minutes ago, Dusk_Till_Dawn said: Bollocks mate It’s pretty much exactly what you said though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ari Gold Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 13 hours ago, johnthomas said: Did you actually read my post ? Sorry , stupid question . I did yes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Boy Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 44 minutes ago, OldGorgie said: Absolutely. Possibly the worst being blaming Liverpool supporters for their deaths because the Sun said they were drunk. A complete and utter fabrication that caused untold additional misery for bereaving families. Did they not claim some of them picked the pockets of the victims? Whatever someone’s football affiliations, I don’t understand people continuing to give money to that publication. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Elwood P Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 7 hours ago, Ethan Hunt said: What other fans think of Hearts - be that of the manager, players, stand, or the quality of tea we sell, is of no concern to me. To use that as any kind of argument is frankly ludicrous. 7 hours ago, Ethan Hunt said: Well now @Redhelen is more of a Hearts supporter than you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Governor Tarkin Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 10 hours ago, Special Officer Doofy said: You're just pissed because you never made it in to their mini-series on Wester Hailles’ hardest men. Don’t sweat it though, if they do one on WH shortest men, you’ll be front cover news. Disco will have you 'disappeared' . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Boy Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Governor Tarkin said: Disco will have you 'disappeared' . He does that himself every time he takes too long to pass a grit box. 😄 Edited February 19, 2020 by Special Officer Doofy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusk_Till_Dawn Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 11 minutes ago, Special Officer Doofy said: It’s pretty much exactly what you said though. What I said was I believe there is some substance to this story. Anyone who thinks our dressing room is sweetness and light knows nothing about football. Although that would cover a fair number of people on here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Governor Tarkin Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 2 minutes ago, Special Officer Doofy said: He does that himself every time he takes too long to pass a grit box. 😄 Is that why he's only a bit disco instead of the full thing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Boy Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 1 minute ago, Governor Tarkin said: Is that why he's only a bit disco instead of the full thing? Well he’s definitely “not the full thing”, that’s for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack D and coke Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 5 minutes ago, Dusk_Till_Dawn said: What I said was I believe there is some substance to this story. Anyone who thinks our dressing room is sweetness and light knows nothing about football. Although that would cover a fair number of people on here. Neither it should be. The story though, is in the main, shite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Elwood P Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 9 hours ago, Sir Gio said: Think Elwood P is getting a hard time to be honest. Outside of Edinburgh Stendel is not very highly rated, less so than Levein I'd say. If you get out of the Hearts camp and talk to fans of other clubs, they seem quite happy we have gone from one ridiculous extreme to the other whilst gaining even less points per game. Leveins time was clearly up in the summer for me, personally I would have been happy if we had done something back then. The timing has been shit but quite frankly Stendel has done little to convince anyone other than those who are desperate for him to be a success for their own egos, he's the answer. Mistakes just keep happening. Time is running out he says. Stendel roulette I've seen his team selection named, goes for his tactics too. Some should swallow pride and admit this is not what they expected. There is still time for him but by this juncture, with pretty much all of our better choices there, we should have more wins on the board This! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soonbe110 Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 9 hours ago, Sir Gio said: Think Elwood P is getting a hard time to be honest. Outside of Edinburgh Stendel is not very highly rated, less so than Levein I'd say. If you get out of the Hearts camp and talk to fans of other clubs, they seem quite happy we have gone from one ridiculous extreme to the other whilst gaining even less points per game. Leveins time was clearly up in the summer for me, personally I would have been happy if we had done something back then. The timing has been shit but quite frankly Stendel has done little to convince anyone other than those who are desperate for him to be a success for their own egos, he's the answer. Mistakes just keep happening. Time is running out he says. Stendel roulette I've seen his team selection named, goes for his tactics too. Some should swallow pride and admit this is not what they expected. There is still time for him but by this juncture, with pretty much all of our better choices there, we should have more wins on the board Great post Sir Gio. Summed the situation up quite precisely. It’s worrying times. The other two/three clubs at the bottom have managers with skin in the game and are desperate to stay up. Our hasn’t been around long enough to be fully invested in our future. He could walk away in May with no real impact on his career. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack D and coke Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 1 minute ago, Mr Elwood P said: This! There’s two of you now👍🏼 Gio wasn’t very enthusiastic at the beginning either I recall. I appreciate we’ve taken a risk but I’m glad we have. The only mistake so far is not running levein out of Tynecastle with a sharp instrument. You pair want another Craig Levein or Stuart McCall or Neil McCann well I’m sorry but balls to that. I’ve had enough of that same same crap that has gotten us next to nowhere in my entire 30 odd years following this club. Im on the Stendel train for better or worse. We go down they so be it. We can get in one of your favoured god awful journeymen managers in after that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnthomas Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 30 minutes ago, Ari Gold said: I did yes Oh dear . That makes it even more difficult to understand your response . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FJT Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 Couldn’t it be that people aren’t just ‘desperate for him to be a success for their own egos’ @Sir Gio perhaps a minority are. But most will be desperate for him to succeed because we’re hearts fans and are desperate to claw ourselves out of relegation. the sun is and always has been crammed with sensationalist guff taking an ‘article ‘ like this at face value especially when there’s no source, no quotes is plain naive I laughed when I read the ‘heated exchange ‘ bit about Clare and changing shape in the first half - he had to - we were two down after about 15 minutes ffs! Sensationalist crap I’d expect some disgruntlement in a dressing room when we’re bottom of the league. What matters is channelling that in a way that helps not hinders us. Fingers crossed stendel can help the team do that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
...a bit disco Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 24 minutes ago, Governor Tarkin said: Disco will have you 'disappeared' . Indeed Gov. He's been treading a fine line of late, that one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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