Bunny Munro Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 Sun online running an article that half the players are fed up with Stendels man management and communication skills. "It is understood some players struggle to make sense of Stendel’s instructions on how he wants them to play. Others are bitter over being dumped when they don’t immediately deliver." https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/football/5293264/hearts-stendel-battle-win-over-players/ Yes I know it's the Sun... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
busby1985 Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 I feel a, no quote, “Tynecastle insider” type story coming. Probably originating on here from the feedback from the Junior Jambos event. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GorgieRules22 Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 Ideal eh 🙄 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Boy Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 Just now, busby1985 said: I feel a, no quote, “Tynecastle insider” type story coming. Probably originating on here from the feedback from the Junior Jambos event. Or the Hibs.net rumour. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ToqueJambo Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Bunny Munro said: Sun online running an article that half the players are fed up with Stendels man management and communication skills. "It is understood some players struggle to make sense of Stendel’s instructions on how he wants them to play. Others are bitter over being dumped when they don’t immediately deliver." https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/football/5293264/hearts-stendel-battle-win-over-players/ Yes I know it's the Sun... The first bit I can believe - Scottish footballers not renowned for their sharpness - but who would the bitter others be if true? Dikamona maybe? White? He's given most players several opportunities at least. Some have arguably been given too much time. Others have been replaced by first choice players coming back from injury, as with White and Dikamona. Those dumped completely like Berra, Whelan, Wighton and Mulraney all got chances under Stendel. Edited February 17, 2020 by ToqueJambo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve123 Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 You have got to laugh "dumped when they don't immediately deliver" oh the irony!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kila Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 Who do we play in the cup next Saturday? Oh yeah... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bunny Munro Posted February 17, 2020 Author Share Posted February 17, 2020 4 minutes ago, ToqueJambo said: The first bit I can believe - Scottish footballers not renowned for their sharpness - but who would the bitter others be if true? Dikamona maybe? White? He's given most players several opportunities at least. Some have arguably been given too much time. Others have been replaced by first choice players coming back from injury, as with White and Dikamona. Those dumped completely like Berra, Whelan, Wighton and Mulraney all got chances under Stendel. Meshino, MacDonald, Washington to an extent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Elwood P Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 10 minutes ago, Bunny Munro said: Sun online running an article that half the players are fed up with Stendels man management and communication skills. "It is understood some players struggle to make sense of Stendel’s instructions on how he wants them to play. Others are bitter over being dumped when they don’t immediately deliver." https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/football/5293264/hearts-stendel-battle-win-over-players/ Yes I know it's the Sun... The Sun are almost always spot on with what is happening at Hearts. Disgusting paper but usually right. It would definitely explain a lot of what is being seen on the park. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingantti1874 Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 Don’t immediately deliver? 😂 honestly I’ve no idea how Stendel will pan out long term.. but I would gladly see every single player at the club emptied with the exception of about 2.. sick of the sight of most of them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gashauskis9 Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 1 minute ago, Barack said: Levein's signings having to work for a living. ****ing put the head down, shut the **** up, put some pride in your performances, and get us out the ****ing hole you've dug for yourselves. This. I’ve never felt so apathetic towards a squad of players before in my life. I’m putting up with them at the moment because I’m powerless to it, but if it ever comes down to Stendel v Squad, Stendel will always get my vote. He’s exposed these lads for what they are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicholas Brody Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 3 minutes ago, Barack said: Levein's signings having to work for a living. ****ing put the head down, shut the **** up, put some pride in your performances, and get us out the ****ing hole you've dug for yourselves. Bingo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Dan Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 Tough life. Welcome to the real world guys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poseidon Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 Can imagine Uche being the one referred to in the second part Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Boy Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 If this is true, you always have to have your doubts when it’s the Sun, but if it is true, then Stendel should be cut a little slack. Much like the whining from Berra and Whelan etc, they can ****ing well pull their big boy pants on, and get their fingers out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilnunb Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 **** me, these lazy pricks have been shite for almost a year before Stendel came to the club. Boohoohoo someone's come in and upset their wee routine. **** em all. 🤬 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indianajones Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 Almost worth the relegation pain to say goodbye to the majority of this squad. Cannot be arsed with them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hungry hippo Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 When any team isn't winning players will be unhappy. Especially a big squad like ours where there are many players of similar ability. The ones not getting picked won't be happy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruyff Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 Lifted straight from a thread started by an interloper on here. Usual suspects hoping it is true. Gulliblies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambof3tornado Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 2 minutes ago, Gashauskis9 said: This. I’ve never felt so apathetic towards a squad of players before in my life. I’m putting up with them at the moment because I’m powerless to it, but if it ever comes down to Stendel v Squad, Stendel will always get my vote. He’s exposed these lads for what they are. This. Its also the reason I do not fear the championship. As long as Stendel stays it allows a complete reset, lets face it Leveins 5 year plan never bloody worked so binning DS after 5 months would be wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambof3tornado Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 1 minute ago, Hungry hippo said: When any team isn't winning players will be unhappy. Especially a big squad like ours where there are many players of similar ability. The ones not getting picked won't be happy. Almost exactly my thoughts!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan Hunt Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 (edited) If there is any substance to this identify the discontented ones and isolate them. No messing, just cut them straight out. To allow any of these charlatans house room will be a serious mistake. A siege mentality is required. Get rid of the weak minded and let the strong flourish. Edited February 17, 2020 by Ethan Hunt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diego10 Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 Half the article is taken up with us switching Clare into midfield for Smith when we were 2 down against 10 men, an entirely sensible change to make. Whether there's any unrest in the dressing room I don't know. There's literally no-one who'd have any complaint about being dropped though at this stage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJGJ Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 With all due respect the part about struggling to understand how he wants them to play may well be correct..you can hardly blame the players if he cannot make his instructions clear. We are hurting at the moment and of course want to back the new man with the players an easy target but to pretend that it must be all their fault is just stupid Just look at all the threads and comments from posters telling us how his system is not working, how he needs to change this and that, yet when a story comes out all that is forgotten and blame is attached purely to the players. The truth will be somewhere in between but don't kid yourself that the manager has no blame attached to him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny Wilde Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 Probably a lot of pash. But I would back Stendel all the way if it has even a grain of truth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cynic Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 Disgusting rag of a newspaper. Written by cretins and read by morons. Wouldn't use it to wipe shit off my shoes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CloustonHMFC Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 Don’t know what to make of this article. As much as I despise the sun they’re usually pretty up to speed on all things Scottish football. Our situation is dire right now. Stendel has been left with an absolute mammoth task of firing up a squad full of losers with a good number who are absolutely shite. Yes he’s brought a few players in but it’s nowhere near enough and couldn’t have expected anymore mid season. The players need to step up and take responsibility for our position, only so much blame you can lay at the managers door although ultimately they are the first ones to pay the price. I get the feeling that, no matter what they spout to the media, our squad genuinely don’t or didn’t believe we would be relegated. The club need to stand behind the manager at this moment in time and so do us, as fans. Anyone not on the same script should be cut loose immediately, I don’t care who they are. I don’t care how we do it but we need to keep ourselves in this league, even through playoffs and completely rebuild this squad in the summer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sac Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 Moaning because they’re being asked to put in a shift. Should be put in a room for 20 mins with the people that pay their wages & we’ll see what kind of reaction we’d get. Do your jobs & stop making excuses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1971fozzy Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 Regardless of the result on Saturday I never saw one single player that did not give it everything. That’s enough for me. **** that rag. We are HMFC and these players gave everything Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seymour M Hersh Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 ****ing rag of a paper that'll quite happily fill it's pages with lies. As for the players not understanding then open yer ****ing ears you idiots. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpikeDudley Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 31 minutes ago, Special Officer Doofy said: Or the Hibs.net rumour. Which is? I don't want to venture over there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Elwood P Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 13 minutes ago, Gashauskis9 said: This. I’ve never felt so apathetic towards a squad of players before in my life. I’m putting up with them at the moment because I’m powerless to it, but if it ever comes down to Stendel v Squad, Stendel will always get my vote. He’s exposed these lads for what they are. What exactly has Stendel done to make you so supportive of him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamboAndrew Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 10 minutes ago, Gashauskis9 said: This. I’ve never felt so apathetic towards a squad of players before in my life. I’m putting up with them at the moment because I’m powerless to it, but if it ever comes down to Stendel v Squad, Stendel will always get my vote. He’s exposed these lads for what they are. With you here. I connect with our manager. I connect with Michael Smith. I'm strughling to really care of connect with any others. Naismith on his day. There are a bunch I really want to do well. Uche, Walker, Washington, Clare etc... but I'm not really getting them like I used to love watching Levein, McLaren, Rudi, Robbo, Gordon, Hartley, etc... Even the McSwegen's etc... tried. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwidoug Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 14 minutes ago, Barack said: Levein's signings having to work for a living. ****ing put the head down, shut the **** up, put some pride in your performances, and get us out the ****ing hole you've dug for yourselves. By coincidence, I have just purchased.a bag of nails. You Barack have just hit the proverbial nail on the head. One guy in particular who has fully understood Stendel's instructions appears to be Jamie Walker. If the rest don't follow his example double quick they will find themselves at Alloa or Clyde next season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack D and coke Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 5 minutes ago, Danny Wilde said: Probably a lot of pash. But I would back Stendel all the way if it has even a grain of truth. I’m here. **** those players. ***** the lot of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan Hunt Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 6 minutes ago, CJGJ said: With all due respect the part about struggling to understand how he wants them to play may well be correct..you can hardly blame the players if he cannot make his instructions clear. We are hurting at the moment and of course want to back the new man with the players an easy target but to pretend that it must be all their fault is just stupid Just look at all the threads and comments from posters telling us how his system is not working, how he needs to change this and that, yet when a story comes out all that is forgotten and blame is attached purely to the players. The truth will be somewhere in between but don't kid yourself that the manager has no blame attached to him So what was the players excuse under Levein and McPhee? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan Hunt Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 2 minutes ago, Mr Elwood P said: What exactly has Stendel done to make you so supportive of him? Not being Craig Levein for one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown user Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 The problem is that we don't know who's unhappy- important people like Naismith or people who can **** off like Joel? I'm backing the recently appointed manager of Hearts, we'll get through this and in time we'll know if he's any good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holyrood_Hearts Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 I think it’s BS. Most of these players have spent a calendar year not winning games under CL yet 13 games in under DS are away complaining to Budge. DS hasn’t had the results so far but bar not getting Damour off the books & persisting with Pereira too long I’ve back every other personnel decision Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Canada Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 Bring on the mass clear out whatever division we're in next season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Elwood P Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 1 minute ago, Ethan Hunt said: Not being Craig Levein for one. Take Craig Levein back right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pettigrewsstylist Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 I struggle to understand him and i give a s***. Not surprised some imposters want to throw sh*** to disguise their utter failure as players. If that's them moving into self preservation mode already we are f*****! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMJ_1874 Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 I actually feel apathy towards the players and former manager right now. I’m became angry as a result of what we’ve become....a team as soft as shit where other teams roll up and pump us in our own home. Oh the irony of having a castle that can’t stop invaders helping themselves. I feel HMFC are a family member that’s just been diagnosed with a terminal illness and I’m slowly watching them suffer and diminish until they breath their last. This team don’t know the meaning of the word ‘fight’! When do the players actually take the blame rather than the manager? If anything, then most of them won’t be here if we go down next season. I won’t be sorry to see the back of these charlatans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan Hunt Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 2 minutes ago, Zlatanable said: I can believe it. I am concerned about Naismith's input. We have been, mainly, troubled since he turned up. (to the exact minute he was injured in that League Cup s/f v Celtic) Not having a Director of Football in charge, in that system, and expecting a 'head coach' to be a Manager, is a failure by Ann Budge and the Board of Hearts. I can feel there is poisonous discord affecting us just now. Dunno who, where, why, when and how, but we are struggling to work together. I brought up Naismith’s constant whining at players a few days ago. He has been moaning like feck and you can see some of them letting it get their heads go down, with others basically giving him a GTF look. The irony is Naismith has been really shite for the last 4 or 5 games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTrumpet Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 14 minutes ago, Ethan Hunt said: If there is any substance to this identify the discontented ones and isolate them. No messing, just cut them straight out. To allow any of these charlatans house room will be a serious mistake. A siege mentality is required. Get rid of the weak minded and let the strong flourish. Yes, but how do you think the team will perform without Naismith, Smith, Halkett, Clare and Boyce? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack D and coke Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 3 minutes ago, Mr Elwood P said: Take Craig Levein back right now. Are you Craig levein? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan Hunt Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 2 minutes ago, Mr Elwood P said: Take Craig Levein back right now. And you’d have the KY jelly out to welcome him with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bongo 1874 Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 1 minute ago, Mr Elwood P said: Take Craig Levein back right now. That's what it's all about isn't it you hold a grudge because Levein got sacked, utterly pathetic I admire Levein as the player but unfortunately it's Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Elwood P Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 2 minutes ago, Ethan Hunt said: And you’d have the KY jelly out to welcome him with. Imbecile! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Elwood P Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 2 minutes ago, Bongo 1874 said: That's what it's all about isn't it you hold a grudge because Levein got sacked, utterly pathetic I admire Levein as the player but unfortunately it's Can you rewrite that sentence with punctuation please? I’ve genuinely no idea what you are attempting to say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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