Sexton Hardcastle Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 Right, a real six pointer. A loss and were probably gubbed. A win and it’s in our hand. A draw and things are on the fence. Somewhat confident we go and get a result. Today was far from ideal but had they not been given a two goal head start we would have won that. Hopefully the officiating is better on Friday night. I will also put my neck on the line and say if we do win the whole support will be singing about a diamond and claiming souttar is worthy of a Scotland cap. We’re such a bunch of ****ing bitches. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DB-14 Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 How you can be confident after today is beyond me. This team is utterly disgraceful and we’ve a manager who’s zero clue of our best eleven or a suitable system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hearts1975 Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 14 minutes ago, SteauaNeedarest said: How you can be confident after today is beyond me. This team is utterly disgraceful and we’ve a manager who’s zero clue of our best eleven or a suitable system. You could spend time on another ten threads right now discussing our doomsday scenario Right now I’m with the OP on this 100%. Win next week, and we still have a chance. It’s still very much in the balance. One thing I know is that we have had zero run of the green. One mistake costs us every single time. Law of averages suggest that, that has to change Do we need to perform better ? Sure as dammit we do Not arguing with some of the points you raise in your post (some, not all) but that said, we win next week we still have a chance. That’s fact and not conjecture hence the thread is still very much worthy of debate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glynnlondon Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 Im fairly confident we'll talk a good game , make all the right noises and then play like chumps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricardo Quaresma Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 Not working on Friday, gonna see what is what regarding that Not been to theirs since Love Street Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamhammer Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 I’m working so will be spared “Watching” on here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i8hibsh Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 No-one knows the future but this will not be a 'W' on our form guide. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forever Hearts Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 I'll be there. And I think we'll win. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCR Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 1 hour ago, Ricardo Quaresma said: Not working on Friday, gonna see what is what regarding that Not been to theirs since Love Street We only get 1600 tickets for it, be aware it will probably sell out in advance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwidoug Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 13 minutes ago, i8hibsh said: No-one knows the future but this will not be a 'W' on our form guide. It will. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i8hibsh Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 5 minutes ago, Kiwidoug said: It will. I'm not the most positive of people but I can usually pull the odd positive out the bag even if scraping the barrel. We don't even have a barrel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorillajam Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 I'm confident we'll survive the drop. We are only 3 points behind safety. We need to beat St Mirren. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Potter Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 Stupid time for a match, will watch on the box, 1-0 Hearts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Салатные палочки Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 The last time we won in Paisley was 2012. Not confident at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fabienleclerq Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 5 hours ago, Sexton Hardcastle said: Somewhat confident we go and get a result. Today was far from ideal but had they not been given a two goal head start we would have won that. Hopefully the officiating is better on Friday night. But we did give them a two goal start, we gave Killie three. Yesterday if that boy never got sent off we wouldn't have got a point at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambof3tornado Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 I'll be there because its such a huge match.....but so was yesterday. Not confident our group of players has the baws to go and grab a game by the scruff of the neck. A win could give us a wee boost, a defeat just cannot be considered. Some players look like they think we'll magically get out of this situation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankfurter Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 Still a long way out, but Metoffice predicts yet another storm for that one. Got a suspicion our results will improve when the weather does. Hope it's not too late by then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rick witter Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 4 hours ago, Hearts1975 said: You could spend time on another ten threads right now discussing our doomsday scenario Right now I’m with the OP on this 100%. Win next week, and we still have a chance. It’s still very much in the balance. One thing I know is that we have had zero run of the green. One mistake costs us every single time. Law of averages suggest that, that has to change Do we need to perform better ? Sure as dammit we do Not arguing with some of the points you raise in your post (some, not all) but that said, we win next week we still have a chance. That’s fact and not conjecture hence the thread is still very much worthy of debate We used up all of our luck in one match at Falkirk. A game in which we should have conceded another 3 goals. We simply can’t defend properly St Mirren will score at least twice so we will not win the game and we are going down!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenor Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 Just can’t see us winning this. Hope I’m wrong! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brauhauser2012 Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 (edited) The team has an entitled mentality. The manager has tried to counter it but they are not listening and as he said the effort and body language was wrong. Fully expect to be relegated. The club is going through a metamorphosis and we will come back stronger than ever once the Levein taint has been fully cleansed. Edited February 16, 2020 by Brauhauser2012 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bull's-eye Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 (edited) Give the Midden a 2 goal start before KO. Then we can play 5 strikers from the start. We're struggling to get draws in 60 minutes so let's go gung ho for the full 90. Oh aye, forgot to add Craig Levein is a Jobby. Edited February 16, 2020 by Bull's-eye Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S Form Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 Can guarantee that their defence will be a thousand times more organised than ours and that their little foreign winger (Durmis?) will look like Lionel Messi compared to ours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hearts1975 Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 51 minutes ago, rick witter said: We used up all of our luck in one match at Falkirk. A game in which we should have conceded another 3 goals. We simply can’t defend properly St Mirren will score at least twice so we will not win the game and we are going down!!! Don’t know in all honesty. Just got a sneaking feeling we will snatch a win. I know we are making mistakes and big ones at that, but that said, if we go there and win then we can still do it. We have to tighten at the back - that much is obvious If we don’t pick anything up through there it’s looking ominous for us, I’ll give u that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hearts1975 Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 55 minutes ago, rick witter said: We used up all of our luck in one match at Falkirk. A game in which we should have conceded another 3 goals. We simply can’t defend properly St Mirren will score at least twice so we will not win the game and we are going down!!! We rode our luck at Falkirk but had 3 or 4 clear cut chances to bury them yesterday in the 2nd half ... swings and roundabouts where luck is concerned Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finlay James Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 Our situation is very fixable, the players just need to get over themselves and listen to Stendel. They think they're better than they are. That said, we're definitely due some luck and if we keep going forward the way we have, we'll pick up points. No better time to start than on Friday night in Paisley. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gabriel Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 Needs to be remembered that St. Mirren will be playing Motherwell on Tuesday night and then us again on Friday night, so we should have a slight edge in terms of recovery time and fitness. Perhaps playing away will be less nerve-racking for players and fans alike. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTrumpet Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 1 hour ago, Frankfurter said: Still a long way out, but Metoffice predicts yet another storm for that one. Got a suspicion our results will improve when the weather does. Hope it's not too late by then. You mean in the summer? Close season? Could be a good strategy to lower the loss percentage. 🤔😉 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankfurter Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 17 minutes ago, TheTrumpet said: You mean in the summer? Close season? Could be a good strategy to lower the loss percentage. 🤔😉 March can be quite nice. 🙏 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankfurter Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 43 minutes ago, Hearts1975 said: If we don’t pick anything up through there it’s looking ominous for us, I’ll give u that Yeah, it would essentially be down to a straight fight with Hamilton for the playoff spot. And the playoff itself is probably little better than a fifty-fifty, with the opponent's confidence on a high after getting through the previous round(s). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hearts1975 Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 12 minutes ago, Frankfurter said: Yeah, it would essentially be down to a straight fight with Hamilton for the playoff spot. And the playoff itself is probably little better than a fifty-fifty, with the opponent's confidence on a high after getting through the previous round(s). We have to take the points through there. Don’t fancy a play off at all. We need to aim for 10th. Minimum A play off would be Like Russian roulette the way we are playing 😖 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gashauskis9 Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 32 minutes ago, Hearts1975 said: We have to take the points through there. Don’t fancy a play off at all. We need to aim for 10th. Minimum A play off would be Like Russian roulette the way we are playing 😖 Yep, looks like we’ll have a choice of whether we want Robbo or McPake to relegate us. The wee team would spunk their load at the latter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uche Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 Will make it along to this one. Massive, massive game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1971fozzy Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 To be honest I cant see where the next win is coming from. I think maybe a draw but more likely another loss. they play on Tuesday a cup replay so maybe tired ? Anything helps Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankfurter Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 6 minutes ago, Gashauskis9 said: Yep, looks like we’ll have a choice of whether we want Robbo or McPake to relegate us. Berra as well. ☹️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OmiyaHearts Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 We dont have enough grafters to stay up, simple as that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hearts1975 Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 19 minutes ago, Gashauskis9 said: Yep, looks like we’ll have a choice of whether we want Robbo or McPake to relegate us. The wee team would spunk their load at the latter. True but history has taught us that where the wee teams concerned we will always have the last laugh. At least they won’t be spunking their load in their sister for a change. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkDevriesScores4 Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 Considering st Mirren are one of 3 teams we have managed to beat this season, we need to pick up 3 points. We won’t take many from the others (Hamilton etc). Lose Friday and we are done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gashauskis9 Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 1 minute ago, Hearts1975 said: True but history has taught us that where the wee teams concerned we will always have the last laugh. At least they won’t be spunking their load in their sister for a change. Last laugh? Nothing funny about us sitting 12th with as strong an available squad as we’ve had in over a year and with the 4th biggest budget in the league. We’re a laughing stock, trust me. The goodwill we had in 2014 will not be in play in 2020. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selkirkhmfc1874 Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 Hard to see where next win coming from but at the same time gotta believe we can get out of this situation we are in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Debut 4 Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 I’d be getting my wee nest of more experienced players together for a meeting and asking them to drag us out the shite. Fit them in, hand them the responsibility and barring injuries and suspensions, they play every week. Too many changes in and out with laddies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hearts1975 Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 7 minutes ago, Gashauskis9 said: Last laugh? Nothing funny about us sitting 12th with as strong an available squad as we’ve had in over a year and with the 4th biggest budget in the league. We’re a laughing stock, trust me. The goodwill we had in 2014 will not be in play in 2020. Mate. The day, regardless of where we are, in football terms, that I look at that shite, with any envy, whatsoever, is the day Ill give up on football, and for good You took that part of my post completely out of context Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicholas Brody Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 I'm going through. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambogaza Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 This is on tv isn't it? I want to believe this team can turn it around but I have absolutely no faith or trust in them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambali Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 7 hours ago, SteauaNeedarest said: How you can be confident after today is beyond me. This team is utterly disgraceful and we’ve a manager who’s zero clue of our best eleven or a suitable system. So - no change from the last one... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Roller Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 Whilst it’s a massive game, I don’t think a draw or defeat decides our fate just yet. This looks like going to the wire, win lose or draw on Friday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jr ewing Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 If we lose 11th place will be the best we can hope for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty2442 Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 18 minutes ago, The Roller said: Whilst it’s a massive game, I don’t think a draw or defeat decides our fate just yet. This looks like going to the wire, win lose or draw on Friday. Totally agree with this St Mirren have a tougher run than we do, so we just need to make sure we are still there or thereabouts for the split. I don’t think we were awful yesterday considering the weather, we are just gifting teams goals just now, if somehow we can shore up the defence then I think we’ll be fine. However playing Halkett and Souttar together probably isn’t the option, both need someone experienced and level headed playing alongside them, I’d probably take Souttar out and put Smith into CB to try steady things a little. And the only reason I’d take out Souttar over Halkett is that Halkett is always good for the occasional goal, other than that defensively they have been equally as bad as each other. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmreido Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 40 minutes ago, jambogaza said: This is on tv isn't it? I want to believe this team can turn it around but I have absolutely no faith or trust in them. BT Sport are covering it. Gonna be a tough match, hard to watch, but our luck has to change, surely. Lose this and the gap would be 6 points, plus a game in hand, no way we'd make that up. Hearts win or we're humped. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulHartley10 Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 Zlamal Smith Souttar Halkett Hickey Sibbick Irving Washington Naismith Walker Boyce Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amadjambo Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 I reckon we are fighting St Mirren for bottom place. So a win is an absolute must. We also need to have a much more balanced team on the park. While the last few games (excluding Celtic) have been very exciting, we seriously lack a midfield presence. Can’t keep ending games with 6 up front tripping over each other. Not a fan of Bozanic but our midfield needs bolstered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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