milky_26 Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 financial fair play punishment Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kila Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 (edited) https://www.theguardian.com/football/2020/feb/14/manchester-city-banned-from-champions-league-two-seasons-ffp-uefa Manchester City have been banned from the Champions League for the next two seasons by Uefa and fined €30m (£25m) after they were found to have seriously misled European football’s governing body and broken financial fair play rules. Edited February 14, 2020 by kila Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milky_26 Posted February 14, 2020 Author Share Posted February 14, 2020 not just CL but all UEFA competitions Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cade Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 30 million EURO fine too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilnunb Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kila Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 Just now, milky_26 said: not just CL but all UEFA competitions Hugely damaging for them! That mean 5th spot in the EPL gets CL or does it go elsewhere in Europe based on merit etc? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruyff Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 nae joy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruyff Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 Just now, kila said: Hugely damaging for them! That mean 5th spot in the EPL gets CL or does it go elsewhere in Europe based on merit etc? Mon' the Sheff Utd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyNic Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 Their crowds will dwindle even more now. Can't see Pep sticking around either! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyNic Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 Also it's a shame UEFA care more about money than racism. Their fines for racism have been embarrassing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackLadd Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 Excellent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Dunphy Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 The plastics will be along shortly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paolo Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 Just now, AndyNic said: Also it's a shame UEFA care more about money than racism. Their fines for racism have been embarrassing. Breaches of money rules do matter, but you make a fair point. Teams and players have been fined more for wearing and displaying t-shirts, UEFA don’t approve of. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamboozy Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 1 minute ago, AndyNic said: Also it's a shame UEFA care more about money than racism. Their fines for racism have been embarrassing. Agree Andy, they should ban clubs that have a known history of racism & sectarianism. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milky_26 Posted February 14, 2020 Author Share Posted February 14, 2020 i think it will be overturned or at least reduced on appeal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 GIRFUY any plastic fans in here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 Just now, milky_26 said: i think it will be overturned or at least reduced on appeal Not convinced. None of the transfer bans handed out were lifted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milky_26 Posted February 14, 2020 Author Share Posted February 14, 2020 Just now, Jeff said: Not convinced. None of the transfer bans handed out were lifted. CAS will probably do it as the main investigator before any investigations effectively said what the punishment was going to be suggesting he had already found them guilty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Future's Maroon Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 Ooooft! (Pity, Der Hun we're never banned for cheating) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CavySlaveJambo Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 It will be going to the Court of Arbitration of Sport. so may yet get overturned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manaliveits105 Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 Please let this happen to Ceptic with a longer ban Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thommo414 Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 Not sure how I feel about this one tbh. They were always gonna run in to some trouble somewhere along the line and it’s a good thing that uefa have shown they’ll punish teams no matter how big. Are Man City really that bad when it comes to this? Look at the wages United will spend, or PSG for example, they can’t be fully compliant surely? In any case, reckon there will be a mass exodus at the end of the season and it’ll be so much harder to get players in. Does this mean 5th place in England will get CL football then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Maroonblood Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 3 minutes ago, The Future's Maroon said: Ooooft! (Pity, Der Hun we're never banned for cheating) Good point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1971fozzy Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 Get it up them. very pleasing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Boy Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 18 minutes ago, Phil Dunphy said: The plastics will be along shortly. Hope so. I do love a good EPL plastic off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 Will be thrown out at the Court of Arbitration in Sport. Will end up with a fine. English sport in the spotlight for cheating though. With Saracens and now this. Giving Russia a good go for world cheats. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dazinho88 Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alwaysthereinspirit Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 16 minutes ago, The Future's Maroon said: Ooooft! (Pity, Der Hun we're never banned for cheating) 28 minutes ago, kila said: https://www.theguardian.com/football/2020/feb/14/manchester-city-banned-from-champions-league-two-seasons-ffp-uefa Manchester City have been banned from the Champions League for the next two seasons by Uefa and fined €30m (£25m) after they were found to have seriously misled European football’s governing body and broken financial fair play rules. Mean while back at Ibrox and Hampden............... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SectionDJambo Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 They’ve allowed the Spanish clubs, in particular, to do what they like with finances over many years. There was a time that the EU were said to have used the Spanish banks favourable treatment to Real Madrid as an example of how they were reckless with the borrowing they allowed. It was certain that after 4 English clubs were in the European finals last season, that UEFA would look to satisfy displeasure from some of the previously dominant associations. We are in a situation where countries own English teams now. The SKY cash has blown all reason away. Having said that, UEFA started all this by loading the Champions League in favour of the bigger clubs in Europe. No chance of a team like Malmo or even Celtic getting near a final now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Internet Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lovecraft Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 No danger that will happen. They will just be given a larger fine to pay. i.e . A bribe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Boy Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 9 minutes ago, SectionDJambo said: They’ve allowed the Spanish clubs, in particular, to do what they like with finances over many years. There was a time that the EU were said to have used the Spanish banks favourable treatment to Real Madrid as an example of how they were reckless with the borrowing they allowed. It was certain that after 4 English clubs were in the European finals last season, that UEFA would look to satisfy displeasure from some of the previously dominant associations. We are in a situation where countries own English teams now. The SKY cash has blown all reason away. Having said that, UEFA started all this by loading the Champions League in favour of the bigger clubs in Europe. No chance of a team like Malmo or even Celtic getting near a final now. a very good summation of the situation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusk_Till_Dawn Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 Appeal. Most of it suspended. The end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tynecastlesmychurch Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 Nothing against city or their fans but I find that hilarious. Honestly couldn’t tell you why though?. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jock _turd Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 No dog in fight BUT they will appeal , win the appeal and everything will be just as it ever was big teams running the show! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
busby1985 Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 49 minutes ago, milky_26 said: not just CL but all UEFA competitions CL still getting blamed, honestly we need to move on............ 😂😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texia Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 UEFA continuing their mission to keep the “traditional” clubs at the top and unchallenged, I have no great love for city but FFP is a joke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Boy Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 6 minutes ago, Texia said: UEFA continuing their mission to keep the “traditional” clubs at the top and unchallenged, I have no great love for city but FFP is a joke. Don’t see it like that at all. Man City are about as establishment as you can get now. Plenty former great European clubs don’t get a sniff nowadays, and that is down to UEFA and their insistence on seeding and putting fourth places teams from cash rich clubs ahead of the champions of smaller leagues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Future's Maroon Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 16 minutes ago, busby1985 said: CL still getting blamed, honestly we need to move on............ 😂😂 Everything, Coronaviris included, is CL’s fault 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buzzbomb1958 Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 48 minutes ago, The Real Maroonblood said: Good point. These ****rs have been cheating for years and as far as I'm concerned under any other FA would be brought to book only with a corrupted Football Association can they get away with living beyond their means is cheating but I guess we will just have to live with it,any bit of pain that can be inflicted on this new entity is fine by me ,****rs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Future's Maroon Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 Just now, buzzbomb1958 said: These ****rs have been cheating for years and as far as I'm concerned under any other FA would be brought to book only with a corrupted Football Association can they get away with living beyond their means is cheating but I guess we will just have to live with it,any bit of pain that can be inflicted on this new entity is fine by me ,****rs 100% Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vegas-voss Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 " eh Pep about that new contract, you still want to sign it " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTrumpet Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 That is fantastic news. Just a shame that the cowards that run Scottish football didn't sign up to the FFP rules. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJ93 Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 Pep will be gone at end of season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJGJ Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 3 minutes ago, JJ93 said: Pep will be gone at end of season. Of course there will be an appeal but there will be at least a one season ban That does give him and the board something to think about Oh and never mind the players that may have arrived in the summer doing a 180 and looking elsewhere The Liverpool era is truly about to take off Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bridge of Djoum Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 1 hour ago, kila said: Hugely damaging for them! That mean 5th spot in the EPL gets CL or does it go elsewhere in Europe based on merit etc? I'd like to see the winners of the FA Cup get the 4th spot. 5th place in the EPL is hardly an achievement. Might help the FA Cup regain some it's value, albeit temporarily. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coolio Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 Well deserved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sac Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 (If) found guilty, what are the implications for them domestically? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJ93 Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 1 minute ago, CJGJ said: Of course there will be an appeal but there will be at least a one season ban That does give him and the board something to think about Oh and never mind the players that may have arrived in the summer doing a 180 and looking elsewhere The Liverpool era is truly about to take off Makes you think doesnt it. Man Utd, Arsenal and Chelsea are all crap. Especially the first two. Man City have been very poor compared to their normal performance (hard to maintain, I know) this season and with this they won't be able to compete with Liverpool for players. Spurs are Spurs. I'd agree, this is Liverpool's for the taking. If they splash the cash, they can dominate the EPL etc for years to come as they have a huge advantage over City at the moment and no-one else is anywhere near them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 The overall picture of where money comes from in football is full of people pushing rules. Wolves and Aston Villa for example would have failed FFP if they hadn't been promoted to the EPL. No idea, of the rights and wrongs. The EFL in England are starting to act. Derby are facing relegation though like City will fight their yet to be announced punishment all the way and they may be right to. Be interesting to consider all the different financial situations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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