We are not alone.... Maybe.

[Jambo-Jimbo]

Another monolith suddenly appears, this time in Romania.

https://news.sky.com/story/mysterious-monolith-found-in-romania-days-after-a-similar-one-vanished-in-utah-12147652

Edited December 1, 2020 by Jambo-Jimbo

[kila]

 

 

 

Not sure if this will be good or bad...

[Cade]

The world famous Arecibo Observatory is now completely ruined.

 

A few months ago, one of the cables supporting the 80-ton central instrument structure snapped.

A few weeks later, another one went, tearing a huge gash through the reflector dish.

Now the entire thing has collapsed and the observatory is a wreck.

The world's largest radar telescope no longer exists and our collective ability to scan the space around the planet has been diminished.

This is what happens when you cut funding and block international co-operation between scientists for political reasons.

 

Before:

 

And now:

[maroonlegions]

23 hours ago, Cade said:

The world famous Arecibo Observatory is now completely ruined.

 

A few months ago, one of the cables supporting the 80-ton central instrument structure snapped.

A few weeks later, another one went, tearing a huge gash through the reflector dish.

Now the entire thing has collapsed and the observatory is a wreck.

The world's largest radar telescope no longer exists and our collective ability to scan the space around the planet has been diminished.

This is what happens when you cut funding and block international co-operation between scientists for political reasons.

 

Before:

 

And now:

Sad, this is were a message from Carl Sagan and NASA was  sent into space . The message contained were we are, our DNA code and other things.

[maroonlegions]

Another monolith appears.   The riddle of the phantom monolith producer.. 

 

 

A third monolith just appeared in California

 

 

 

[indianajones]

On 02/12/2020 at 16:53, Cade said:

The world famous Arecibo Observatory is now completely ruined.

 

A few months ago, one of the cables supporting the 80-ton central instrument structure snapped.

A few weeks later, another one went, tearing a huge gash through the reflector dish.

Now the entire thing has collapsed and the observatory is a wreck.

The world's largest radar telescope no longer exists and our collective ability to scan the space around the planet has been diminished.

This is what happens when you cut funding and block international co-operation between scientists for political reasons.

 

Before:

 

And now:

 

Looks like Alecs hiding place in Goldeneye.

[Cade]

3 minutes ago, indianajones said:

 

Looks like Alecs hiding place in Goldeneye.

 

Correct.

It's been in many, many films.

[Unknown user]

1 hour ago, maroonlegions said:

Another monolith appears.   The riddle of the phantom monolith producer.. 

 

 

A third monolith just appeared in California

 

 

 

Given that this is a thread about alien life, what's the implication here?

You're surely not saying it was aliens are you?

[kila]

2 hours ago, Smithee said:

Given that this is a thread about alien life, what's the implication here?

You're surely not saying it was aliens are you?

 

I really hope so, this thread needs a bit life thrown into it.

 

[Jambo-Jimbo]

2 minutes ago, kila said:

 

I really hope so, this thread needs a bit life thrown into it.

 

 

Feck I hope not, can you just imagine the panic of the bog roll bandits.

If they cleared the shelves because of a bug, what they feck will they do if ET & his buddies arrive. 

 

Seriously though, this is why we'll never be told the truth, because of the panic it would create, joe public could never handle the truth, if there are aliens or not.

[Maple Leaf]

On 02/12/2020 at 11:53, Cade said:

The world famous Arecibo Observatory is now completely ruined.

 

A few months ago, one of the cables supporting the 80-ton central instrument structure snapped.

A few weeks later, another one went, tearing a huge gash through the reflector dish.

Now the entire thing has collapsed and the observatory is a wreck.

The world's largest radar telescope no longer exists and our collective ability to scan the space around the planet has been diminished.

This is what happens when you cut funding and block international co-operation between scientists for political reasons.

 

Before:

 

And now:

 

I visited that site about 15 years ago and it was extremely impressive.

 

It's at the top of a mountain and everyone is made to park at the bottom of the mountain then walk up a long, steep road.  It took about 30 minutes. That prevents car engines from interfering with radio signals.

 

To amuse the hikers on the way up, there is a scale model of the solar system built along the way.  It really came home to me that day how vast the solar system is, and how the earth is no more than a speck of dust.

[ri Alban]

11 hours ago, Cade said:

 

Correct.

It's been in many, many films.

Cableguy

[Beni]

Mystery solved.

 

 

[Lovecraft]

2 hours ago, fancy a brew said:

Mystery solved.

 

 

****ing knew it

 

[maroonlegions]

This from the hughley respected and credible  Astrophysical Journal.

 

This paper was accepted and peer reviewed by the Astrophysical Journal.

 

The Astrobiological Copernican Weak and Strong Limits for Intelligent Life;

 

Tom Westby and Christopher J. Conselice

Published 2020 June 15 • © 2020. The American Astronomical Society. All rights reserved.

 

 

The Astrophysical Journal, Volume 896, Number 1

 

 

 

Abstract;

"We present a cosmic perspective on the search for life and examine the likely number of Communicating Extra-Terrestrial Intelligent (CETI) civilizations in our Galaxy by utilizing the latest astrophysical information. Our calculation involves Galactic star formation histories, metallicity distributions, and the likelihood of stars hosting Earth-like planets in their habitable zones, under specific assumptions which we describe as the Astrobiological Copernican Weak and Strong conditions.

 

These assumptions are based on the one situation in which intelligent, communicative life is known to exist—on our own planet. This type of life has developed in a metal-rich environment and has taken roughly 5 Gyr to do so. We investigate the possible number of CETI civilizations based on different scenarios.

 

At one extreme is the Weak Astrobiological Copernican scenario—such that a planet forms intelligent life sometime after 5 Gyr, but not earlier. The other is the Strong Astrobiological Copernican scenario in which life must form between 4.5 and 5.5 Gyr, as on Earth.

 

In the Strong scenario (under the strictest set of assumptions), we find there should be at least  civilizations within our Galaxy: this is a lower limit, based on the assumption that the average lifetime, L, of a communicating civilization is 100 yr (since we know that our own civilization has had radio communications for this time).

 

If spread uniformly throughout the Galaxy this would imply that the nearest CETI is at most  lt-yr away and most likely hosted by a low-mass M-dwarf star, likely far surpassing our ability to detect it for the foreseeable future, and making interstellar communication impossible.

 

Furthermore, the likelihood that the host stars for this life are solar-type stars is extremely small and most would have to be M dwarfs, which may not be stable enough to host life over long timescales. We furthermore explore other scenarios and explain the likely number of CETI there are within the Galaxy based on variations of our assumptions.

 

[maroonlegions]

Monolith puzzle solved??

 

"The aluminum monolith that was found by a passing helicopter survey team on November 18 has now disappeared. The monolith was strikingly similar to a sculpture by artist John McCracken, “Fair” which was created in 2011. According to the New York Times, McCracken told his son Patrick in May of 2002 that he would like to leave work in remote areas to be discovered later. "

 

 

 

To read the New York Times story, click here.

[maroonlegions]

30+ possible intelligences in our galaxy?? 

 

Well according to  Christopher Conselice, a professor of astrophysics at the University of Nottingham and a co-author of the research.

 

 report in the Astrophysical Journal 

 

 

They may not be little green men. They may not arrive in a vast spaceship. But according to new calculations there could be more than 30 intelligent civilisations in our galaxy today capable of communicating with others.

 

Experts say the work not only offers insights into the chances of life beyond Earth but could shed light on our own future and place in the cosmos.

 

“I think it is extremely important and exciting because for the first time we really have an estimate for this number of active intelligent, communicating civilisations that we potentially could contact and find out there is other life in the universe – something that has been a question for thousands of years and is still not answered,” said Christopher Conselice, a professor of astrophysics at the University of Nottingham and a co-author of the research.

 

 

link https://www.theguardian.com/science/across-the-universe/2013/sep/04/equation-alien-life-universe

Edited December 4, 2020 by maroonlegions

[Cade]

 

 

Edited December 4, 2020 by Cade

[JFK-1]

15 hours ago, Cade said:

 

 

 

Sad moment for a historic piece of equipment.

[JFK-1]

15 hours ago, maroonlegions said:

30+ possible intelligences in our galaxy?? 

 

Well according to  Christopher Conselice, a professor of astrophysics at the University of Nottingham and a co-author of the research.

 

 report in the Astrophysical Journal 

 

 

They may not be little green men. They may not arrive in a vast spaceship. But according to new calculations there could be more than 30 intelligent civilisations in our galaxy today capable of communicating with others.

 

Experts say the work not only offers insights into the chances of life beyond Earth but could shed light on our own future and place in the cosmos.

 

“I think it is extremely important and exciting because for the first time we really have an estimate for this number of active intelligent, communicating civilisations that we potentially could contact and find out there is other life in the universe – something that has been a question for thousands of years and is still not answered,” said Christopher Conselice, a professor of astrophysics at the University of Nottingham and a co-author of the research.

 

 

link https://www.theguardian.com/science/across-the-universe/2013/sep/04/equation-alien-life-universe

 

I have never doubted there has to be other intelligent life somewhere in the universe given the mind boggling numbers involved. Other presuming we consider humans to be intelligent which in some circles is up for debate.

In just the milky way galaxy I don't know. I don't lend much credence to the type of estimates such equations produce which as the Guardian article itself mentions in so many words aren't so much valid estimates as speculative wild guesses.

You can't produce a trustworthy equation when you have no idea of the actual values you're working with. Effectively just inserting a personal speculation which could be any number of actual values. The Drake equation a classic example.
 

Quote

Drake's factors were:

1: The average number of stars to form per year in the galaxy.
2: The fraction of those stars that form planets.
3: The fraction of those planets that could support life.
4: The fraction of life-supporting planets that form life.
5: The fraction of those living planets that develop intelligent life forms.
6: The fraction of those intelligent life forms that develop technology.
7: The average lifetime of a communicating species; in other words how long a civilisation will use radio technology, leaking signals into space for us to hear.

 

"Rather discouragingly, the only factor that is known is the first one."

Factor 7 has always been a biggie for me.
 

Quote

7: The average lifetime of a communicating species; in other words how long a civilisation will use radio technology, leaking signals into space for us to hear.

 

We have no idea of that factor though a rough guess looking at the human condition might be not very long at all. Potentially merely centuries at best.

Intelligent civilisations may have come and gone many times in the galaxy but never existed at the same time nor close enough to detect each other if by some fluke they did exist at the same time..

[Maple Leaf]

[ri Alban]

[Maple Leaf]

An amazing accomplishment by the Japanese.  The 6 year mission sent a spacecraft to an asteroid 190 million miles away, scooped up some soil and rocks, came back to earth, dropped off the samples from 136,000 miles up which landed safely on target in Australia, and is now headed off to look at a different asteroid.  The engineering and mathematics involved in that are mind-boggling.

 

https://www.thestar.com/news/world/asia/2020/12/07/explainer-what-has-japans-hayabusa2-mission-accomplished.html

[Captain Slog]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-hampshire-55212336

 

 

A monolith on the Isle of Wight now, and the original artist isn't claiming it

Edited December 7, 2020 by Captain Slog

[Unknown user]

Mono = single, Lith = stone, Alien influence = wishful thinking

[Unknown user]

3 hours ago, Maple Leaf said:

An amazing accomplishment by the Japanese.  The 6 year mission sent a spacecraft to an asteroid 190 million miles away, scooped up some soil and rocks, came back to earth, dropped off the samples from 136,000 miles up which landed safely on target in Australia, and is now headed off to look at a different asteroid.  The engineering and mathematics involved in that are mind-boggling.

 

https://www.thestar.com/news/world/asia/2020/12/07/explainer-what-has-japans-hayabusa2-mission-accomplished.html

Really, really impressive 

[Cade]

 

[Tazio]

 

[Greedy Jambo]

A good chat on all things UFO's with the guys from the film/doc Phenomenon.

Jacques Vallee has been studying this stuff most of his life, the French guy in Steven Speilberg's : Close encounters of the third kind was based on him. 

 

 

 

[ri Alban]

8 hours ago, Greedy Jambo said:

A good chat on all things UFO's with the guys from the film/doc Phenomenon.

Jacques Vallee has been studying this stuff most of his life, the French guy in Steven Speilberg's : Close encounters of the third kind was based on him. 

 

 

 

 

[ri Alban]

There may or may not be life and civilisations in different parts of the universe. Yes, Universe. Not multi verse or other crackpot ideas from bored drug induced humans, whether scientists or junky. 

 

But they are not here, now, before or any time soon. And if they do come, they won't be here for a nice we chin wag, they be here to take us out. So spare me the 'People ain't ready' bollox, because we won't need a news blackout, we'll know. 

 

 

UFOs and Aliens on Earth.

Edited December 12, 2020 by ri Alban

[Weakened Offender]

6 hours ago, ri Alban said:

There may or may not be life and civilisations in different parts of the universe. Yes, Universe. Not multi verse or other crackpot ideas from bored drug induced humans, whether scientists or junky. 

 

But they are not here, now, before or any time soon. And if they do come, they won't be here for a nice we chin wag, they be here to take us out. So spare me the 'People ain't ready' bollox, because we won't need a news blackout, we'll know. 

 

 

UFOs and Aliens on Earth.

 

If they're pals with the Yanks and Israel then I'm not ready to know about them. 

[kila]

While there's no proof of alien life elsewhere in the universe yet, it's got to be a certainty. Such a vast space of elements and time, with many planets having the perfect environment to support those crucial elements to allow life as we know it to flourish.

 

The problem is time. It doesn't help with monitoring of what is going on right now elsewhere in the universe as we can only capture what happened once the light/whatever waves finally reaches our probes. But maybe one day soon we'll be able to know for sure as larger telescopes are constructed in space allowing us to peek in more detail at very distant planets. We'll probably only see the early signs of life, with the worry being how much that life has evolved in the millions of years it took their light to reach our planet. Maybe they are already on their way

 

[maroonlegions]

On 12/12/2020 at 12:18, kila said:

While there's no proof of alien life elsewhere in the universe yet, it's got to be a certainty. Such a vast space of elements and time, with many planets having the perfect environment to support those crucial elements to allow life as we know it to flourish.

 

The problem is time. It doesn't help with monitoring of what is going on right now elsewhere in the universe as we can only capture what happened once the light/whatever waves finally reaches our probes. But maybe one day soon we'll be able to know for sure as larger telescopes are constructed in space allowing us to peek in more detail at very distant planets. We'll probably only see the early signs of life, with the worry being how much that life has evolved in the millions of years it took their light to reach our planet. Maybe they are already on their way

 

 

 

Thing is, on this subject  "of are we alone", i "never"say "never".

 

Technology has came on leaps and bounds since Galio first raised his head and "mind" to the heavens.

 

We are truly living in the age of "awakening" through the advancement of technology and the revelations it manifests. Exciting times ahead.  

 

 

Using the Sun as of gravitational lens, we could see nearby exoplanets as if they're up close!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

UNIVERSETODAY.COM

If we Used the Sun as a Gravitational Lens Telescope, This is What a Planet at Proxima Centauri Would Look Like - Universe Today

 

Edited December 14, 2020 by maroonlegions

[Greedy Jambo]

The Aliens are here mate, they've been here for donkeys, their crafts come our from under the sea and all sorts. 

 

[Greedy Jambo]

[Greedy Jambo]

Not watched this yet, but the former Israeli space program director claimed that aliens are living on earth and working with the government, something i've heard many times already, so maybe he's just had too much internet. 

 

 

[maroonlegions]

18 hours ago, Greedy Jambo said:

Not watched this yet, but the former Israeli space program director claimed that aliens are living on earth and working with the government, something i've heard many times already, so maybe he's just had too much internet. 

 

 

There have been over the years ex military individuals speaking out. Some say just to  sell their books ect and alsp to spread disinformation.

 

 I would highly recommend this book by investigative journo Leslie  Keen.  

 

 

 

 

 

Also Timothy Good.

 

 

 

"An Air Force major is ordered to approach a brilliant UFO in his Phantom jet over Tehran. He repeatedly attempts to engage and fire on unusual objects heading right toward his aircraft, but his missile control is locked and disabled. Witnessed from the ground, this dogfight becomes the subject of a secret report by the U.S. Defense Intelligence Agency."
 
"In Belgium, an Air Force colonel investigates a series of widespread sightings of unidentified triangular objects, and he sends F-16s to attempt a closer look. Many hundreds of eyewitnesses, including on-duty police officers, file reports, and a spectacular photograph of an unidentifiable craft is retrieved and analyzed."
 
"Here at home, a retired chief of the FAA’s Accidents and Investigations Division reveals the agency’s response to a thirty-minute encounter between an aircraft and a gigantic UFO over Alaska, which occurred during his watch and is documented on radar."
 
"Now all three of these distinguished men have written breathtaking, firsthand accounts about these extraordinary incidents. They are joined by Air Force generals and a host of high-level sources—including Fife Symington III, former governor of Arizona, and Nick Pope, former head of the British Defence Ministry’s UFO Investigative Unit—who have agreed to write their own detailed, personal stories about UFO encounters and investigations for the first time".
 
"They are coming forward now because of Leslie Kean, an investigative reporter who has spent the last ten years studying the still unexplained UFO phenomenon. Kean reviewed hundreds of government documents, aviation reports, radar data, and case studies with corroborating physical evidence.

 

She carefully examined scientifically analyzed photographs and interviewed dozens of high-level officials and aviation witnesses from around the world. With the support of former White House chief of staff John Podesta, Kean draws on her research to separate fact from fiction and to lift the veil on decades of U.S. government misinformation. Throughout, she presents irrefutable evidence that unknown flying objects—metallic, luminous, and seemingly able to maneuver in ways that defy the laws of physics—actually exist."
 
No one yet knows what these objects are, even though they affect aviation safety and possibly national security. The phenomenon has been officially acknowledged by numerous foreign governments. For these reasons and many others, Kean concludes that the UFO problem must be more widely recognized and ultimately solved through an unbiased scientific investigation. The material presented throughout this landmark book is sobering, unflinching, and undeniably awe-inspiring, and moves us toward a goal of properly addressing this worldwide mystery.

 

 Some of these men were decorated military individuals. These guys had top secret clearances and were privy to highly classified  documents and reports of very strange phenomena in the skies that contained very high levels of strangeness.

 

Indeed some were so convinced as to what they saw and read that they had no doubt that SOME of these unknowns were not from earth.   
 

[Greedy Jambo]

Couldn't find the original. 

 

 

[maroonlegions]

 

 

FUTURISM.COM

Scientist left "speechless" after opening asteroid samples

[Unknown user]

Is this a plausible theory in any way?

 

- there's definitive knowledge of aliens and Trump hasn't blurted it out

[Greedy Jambo]

33 minutes ago, Smithee said:

Is this a plausible theory in any way?

 

- there's definitive knowledge of aliens and Trump hasn't blurted it out

 

Would you share everything with a man who is only employed for 4 years? 

 

You are also assuming that the government actually know what these things are. 

Edited December 16, 2020 by Greedy Jambo

[Unknown user]

14 minutes ago, Greedy Jambo said:

 

Would you share everything with a man who is only employed for 4 years? 

 

You are also assuming that the government actually know what these things are. 

What, it gets published on websites but kept a secret from the commander in chief?

[maroonlegions]

In case you missed it, astronomers say they've detected a powerful radio signal — seemingly coming from a planet orbiting the closest star to our Sun.

 

 

FUTURISM.COM

A very strange radio signal is coming from the closest star

 

[ri Alban]

 

 

 

Tartan paint, get yer tartan paint. 

[Greedy Jambo]

Go on Trump! 

 

https://nypost.com/2020/12/29/covid-19-bill-started-a-180-day-countdown-for-ufo-disclosures/

[ri Alban]

[Maple Leaf]

2 hours ago, Greedy Jambo said:

Go on Trump! 

 

https://nypost.com/2020/12/29/covid-19-bill-started-a-180-day-countdown-for-ufo-disclosures/

 

We'll all be sitting on the edge of our chairs waiting for that report.

[gjcc]

Trump probably requested information on aliens voting in the swing states. 

[Greedy Jambo]

A few presidents have been asked if they would release what is known about ufo's if they get the job, they always say, yes yes, of course, then they get into office and nothing ever happens, whether they've just been told no or they didn't bother, who knows. 

It does seem like Trump has tried and been told to bolt. Now that he knows he's on the way out, he's like **** it, here's some legal shit to deal with if you don't tell us what's happening. 

 

Love it.