We are not alone.... Maybe.

[J.T.F.Robertson]

6 minutes ago, JFK-1 said:

 

I don't think I have seen anyone on this topic suggest there is no life elsewhere in the universe. What many including myself say is that we don't believe there are or ever have been aliens visiting the Earth.

 

Don't disagree, bit like finding a particular grain of sand from all the beaches on our speck of dust.

I wasn't inferring anyone had said "visitors" had checked us out, more that what enabled our evolution, doesn't  necessarily mean the same "ingredients" apply for every life possibility.

 

Btw, in an infinity, the same term could apply to the possibilities.

 

[ri Alban]

3 hours ago, Greedy Jambo said:

 

Yes, you can be as technically savvy as you like, when you're entering another world, things can change. 

No-one(except Humans) is using matter of any kind to travel thro the universe. If intellectually superior Alien beings do exist. They'll probably be so far evolved, that they now exist in some other form, meaning machinery required by beings of earth, are not required. 

 

Edited September 26, 2020 by ri Alban

[Maple Leaf]

19 hours ago, Greedy Jambo said:

Only half a moon out in the night sky but it's absolutely massive with a clouds visible above and below, surrounded by stars and planets. 

 

 

 

The moon is always the same size, it just looks bigger when it's closer to the horizon because there's something to compare it with.

 

I haven't tried this myself, but they say that if you hold an aspirin at arm's length it will cover the moon.

[ri Alban]

1 hour ago, Maple Leaf said:

 

The moon is always the same size, it just looks bigger when it's closer to the horizon because there's something to compare it with.

 

I haven't tried this myself, but they say that if you hold an aspirin at arm's length it will cover the moon.

Venus is massive the noo anaw. 

[Greedy Jambo]

Did my comment get deleted? lol

He's totally talking about Venus Williams. 

[Greedy Jambo]

What the hell is that massive orange light dropping Down towards livingston? Cos its not the sun. 

[Greedy Jambo]

Went to grab my phone to take a picture and it had dropped down behind the trees 

[gjcc]

59 minutes ago, Greedy Jambo said:

What the hell is that massive orange light dropping Down towards livingston? Cos its not the sun. 

The second coming of Stampy?

The 3 blind men will be en-route baring gifts. 

[ri Alban]

5 hours ago, Greedy Jambo said:

Went to grab my phone to take a picture and it had dropped down behind the trees 

Don’t put matches in your eyes. 

[Greedy Jambo]

Now we know all the russian secrets

 

 

[Greedy Jambo]

 

[ri Alban]

9 hours ago, Greedy Jambo said:

 

 

[Lovecraft]

Lakes of water confirmed on Mars.

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-54337779

 

 

[Maple Leaf]

1 hour ago, Lovecraft said:

Lakes of water confirmed on Mars.

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-54337779

 

 

 

Finding water, even salty water, is a tremendous discovery. 

[Lovecraft]

4 minutes ago, Maple Leaf said:

 

Finding water, even salty water, is a tremendous discovery. 

 

It certainly is.

 

Huge news.

 

 

[Greedy Jambo]

Who would win in a fight, God or the Big Bang? And do you think they were both wrestlers? 

[maroonlegions]

And just when those  , who, with no scientific credibility, knowing, or expertise in any known scientific disciplines,me included offer their OPINION"S, and nothing more on the real possibility that we have indeed sometime in the past been visited by unknowns, something emerges that baffles and challenges the current "scientific" "knowns" .

 

Then "BOOM" something manifests in the scientific community that  seriously asks questions  and challenges our perception of just what is the real nature of reality we are all experiencing. For that is the main theme here regarding life, experiencing it through current scientific knowns.  

 

Those who not have read up on and listened to those in much more credible positions are not looking at the  whole picture. 

 

But every now and then, and there have been a few,  boom, the universe we  live in gets even more fecking stranger. 

 

Have we, in the past , been visited purely from a scientific, non contact , observational agenda, i cannot rule out that possibility. After reading up on and  listening to some very credible witness testimony backed up by some credible scientific minds. 

 

One has only to look deep enough at the USAF UFO  investigations   like project Blue Book to see the cover ups, lies and downright  force fit debunking explanations of those cases that beggar an prosaic explanation.  

 

• New findings in astronomy are making some astronomers doubt our basic model of the universe.
• Alignments of celestial objects suggest that they may be embedded in large-scale structures.
• Galaxies too far apart to be influencing each other are moving through space together.

 

The idea that celestial objects exist within utterly immense cosmic structures is becoming inescapable.

 

As more astronomers embrace the notion of large-scale structures and related research accelerates, we can only hope that these perplexingly oddball movements and associations are eventually made clear.

 

Certainly, imagining a vast arrangement of utterly gigantic structures in which galaxies are embedded paints a very different picture of the universe, and one that makes one wonder if these structures are themselves embedded in something even larger.

 

In this mid-boggling case, we are indeed small enough to see only the space between objects — in this case galaxies. We've been no more aware of them than whatever it is that may be living between our own atoms.

 

Is the universe controlled by gigantic structures?

 

 

 

 

 

BIGTHINK.COM | BY BIG THINK

 

 

 

  

[Maple Leaf]

There was a time when humans thought that the earth was the biggest thing in existence, and a grain of sand was the smallest thing.

 

We were wildly wrong in both directions and the boundaries are changing constantly. 

[JFK-1]

There could come a day when the 'Voyager Golden Record' may be the only evidence that humans ever existed.

 

Quote

Do Alien Civilizations simply exist too far away and at different periods to ever truly find each other? Would a galactic internet help us connect with other Alien Civilizations?

Author and filmmaker Timothy Ferris joins John Michael Godier to discuss this and his part in the production of the 'Voyager Golden Record' with Carl Sagan.

Where is everybody? Not enough time?

 

 

[Greedy Jambo]

New UFO documentary

You can watch it for free on vumoo.to but make sure you have a popup blocker 

 

 

[Greedy Jambo]

The sceptics need to get this watched like, instead of just posting science projects from 1984. 

 

http://vumoo.to/movies/the-phenomenon-2020

[Greedy Jambo]

This is not in that film but i'm telling you, greek gods... aliens. 

 

Don't say I didn't tell you 

Disclosure is coming. 

Edited October 14, 2020 by Greedy Jambo

[ri Alban]

[Greedy Jambo]

 

[maroonlegions]

If ,as some scientific boffins believe that we are all made up of star matter, then we are ALIENS on earth.

 

We come from the stars.

 

If we did not evolve from apes could we have  possibly been updated  , DNA manipulation ?? by off world intelligences?? Then that's another matter altogether.

 

What if everything has a vibrational consciousness?? 

 

The days of the u -tube mexican aliens anal probing jokes and lunatic attention seekers and money making con artists  are over. 

 

 Of course this is in its early days and still needs further investigation but could be a possible game changer.  

 

This is the new age of discovery. 

 

Plenty of respected and credible sources have not ruled out that the earth has in the past been visited but on a purely scientific observational way. Slipping in and out of our reality with high tech advanced  technology. 

 

 Fitbaw punters opinions are all fine and dandy but when  you get respected military and government and scientific sources saying   the opposite then one has to take notice.    

 

 

These mathematicians think the universe may be conscious;

 

FUTURISM.COM

 

"This could be the beginning of a scientific revolution."

 

 

 

 

    

 

 

[Unknown user]

17 minutes ago, maroonlegions said:

If ,as some scientific boffins believe that we are all made up of star matter, then we are ALIENS on earth.

 

We come from the stars.

 

If we did not evolve from apes could we have  possibly been updated  , DNA manipulation ?? by off world intelligences?? Then that's another matter altogether.

 

What if everything has a vibrational consciousness?? 

 

The days of the u -tube mexican aliens anal probing jokes and lunatic attention seekers and money making con artists  are over. 

 

 Of course this is in its early days and still needs further investigation but could be a possible game changer.  

 

This is the new age of discovery. 

 

Plenty of respected and credible sources have not ruled out that the earth has in the past been visited but on a purely scientific observational way. Slipping in and out of our reality with high tech advanced  technology. 

 

 Fitbaw punters opinions are all fine and dandy but when  you get respected military and government and scientific sources saying   the opposite then one has to take notice.    

 

 

These mathematicians think the universe may be conscious;

 

FUTURISM.COM

 

"This could be the beginning of a scientific revolution."

 

 

 

 

    

 

 

 

No matter what crock of old shite you think up there'll be experts to back you up.

 

"These mathematicians think the universe may be conscious" 🤪

[ri Alban]

Time machine was it. 

[Maple Leaf]

@maroonlegions

 

"Plenty of respected and credible sources have not ruled out that the earth has in the past been visited but on a purely scientific observational way."

 

I haven't ruled it out either.  That's certainly within the realm of possibility, so why would anyone rule it out?  But is there any evidence to suggest that it has happened?

[maroonlegions]

A group of scientists are calling for a serious study of "unidentified aerial phenomena" or UAP"s.. 

 

Not only are they calling for it they also plan on doing it using the new tools available to them and also by conducting a scientific expedition .

 

Philippe Ailleris is a project controller at the European Space Agency's Space Research and Technology Center in the Netherlands. He's also the primary force behind the Unidentified Aerospace Phenomena Observations Reporting Scheme, a project to facilitate the collection of UAP reports from both amateur and professional astronomers.

There's a need for the scientific study of UAPs and a requirement to assemble reliable evidence, something that could not be so easily ignored by science, Ailleris told Space.com.

It is necessary to bring scientists objective and high-quality data, Ailleris said. "No one knows where and when a UAP can potentially appear, hence the difficulty of scientific research in this domain."

 

And we have a former  NASA scientist with NASA's Ames Research Center , Kevin Knuth wants to use satellites to monitor the area where the Nimitz encounters happened.

 

That area will also be the target for a 2021 UAP expedition carried out by Knuth and other researchers. The goal of the outing is "to provide unassailable scientific evidence that UAP objects are real, UAP objects are findable and UAP objects are knowable," according to the website for the project, which is called UAPx.

 

"We are hoping to detect UAPs, determine their characteristics, flight patterns and any patterns in activity that will allow us to study them more effectively," Knuth told Space.com. "In addition to monitoring a region for UAPs, we are also looking into using satellites to obtain independent confirmation of prominent UAP sightings and to obtain quantifiable information about those UAPs."

 

Also on board is  Jacob Haqq-Misra is an astrobiologist with the Blue Marble Space Institute of Science in Seattle, Washington.

 

Haqq-Misra said his knowledge regarding UAPs stems from the public domain, such as the recently released Navy videos and Department of Defense comments. But otherwise, he has not conducted any of his own investigations into the problem.

"I also remain agnostic as to any particular hypothesis that might explain UAP, at least until we have more data to consider," Haqq-Misra said. "The non-human intelligence hypothesis is a popular one, but I don't necessarily have any indication that it is more probable than any other hypothesis at this point."

 

And this;

 

Also, the entire UAP topic has been much maligned by being associated with ET, Kopparapu added. This association prevents a thorough scientific investigation by the science community, he feels, essentially because of a taboo surrounding ET claims.

"I think people immediately think about 'aliens' when they hear UFOs/UAPs, and I want scientists to not fall for that," Kopparapu said. "Be strictly agnostic and don't let preconceived ideas cloud judgments. Have an open mind. Consider this as a science problem. If it turns out these have mundane explanations, so be it."

Kopparapu and like-minded colleagues are proposing a completely unbiased, agnostic approach to study UAP, he said: "Let the data lead us to what they are."

 

"The greatest obstacle to discovery is not ignorance - it is the illusion of knowledge."
Daniel J. Boorstin;
 

 

https://www.space.com/unidentified-aerial-phenomena-scientific-scrutiny

 

 

 

 

Outwith a wee green man landing on the Whitehouse lawn in a spaceship in full view of the media ect, evidence does and can come in different ways. Take the wealth of info below from the links provided. A serious chunky study of reports, witness accounts ranging from military , civilian   and some scientific witness accounts and investigations. 

 

 After spending a good number of years looking at these various sources in the links there is without  a doubt something very real going on /has  been going on in the skies of various nations restricted air spaces.

 

Without  doubt governments air forces do  take APS very seriously indeed. When you have an object detected by radar , F16s scrambled to intercept/investigate only for the UAPs to outmaneuver and take the piss out of fighter jets then accelerate out of view then why would you not be concerned. Make no mistake behind the scenes there have been very concerned governments over the years.  The freedom of information UAPs  releases show this.

 

For those genuinely interested and want to dig deeper below is a wealth of info, the closet to a official UAP investigation .These range from actual reports of radar "hits", scrambled USAF F16s to intercept unknowns, to military and civilian witness accounts.

 

Project Blue Book and others like them were actual USAF UFO investigations by the USAF intelligences. 

 

 

 

Official Comments, Articles, Books   Updated: 7 May 2019 Miscl. Articles, Papers, Books NICAP's Report to Congress - June 21, 1960 (pdf) Journal of Scientific Exploration / Sturrock Survey of Scientists Conclusion UFOs Are Space Ships Given SAC in 1952 (NICAP) ETH & the Likelihood of Interstellar Travel (van Gemert) Formulation, Falsification, & Some Predictions of the ETH (Brian Zeiler) Flying Saucers Fact or Fiction (Max Miller) Getting to Level 2 (Mark Cashman) History 101 - A Compilation of UFO Facts and Quotes How UFOs Navigate The Vortac Beacon (Robert A. Goerman) Instrumented Sensing, Recording & Documentation of Transient Phen. in UFO Events (Ray Stanford) I Remember Blue Book (Jennie Zeidman) Logical Trickery of the UFO Skeptics (Brian Zeiler) Project Hessdalen Final Report - MSc.EE. (Erling Strand) Report on the UFO Wave of 1947 (Ted Bloecher) Symposium on Unidentified Flying Objects (1968) Underwater UFOs & - "Blue Book UFO Reports by Ships at Sea" (Tony Rullan) Unidentified Flying Objects: An Historical Perspective (Earley) What To Do With Sturrock (Durant)   Magazine Articles (not including authors below) Have We Visitors From Space? (LIFE Magazine, 1952) Somethings' Over The Capital Are Traced On Radar (Life Magazine, Aug. 4, 1952) How Scientists Tracked A Flying Saucer (McLaughlin [True 1950]    [pdf file, original version]) "U.F.O." Revisited - The Story Behind the Film (Robert Barrow) What Our Air Force Found Out About UFO's [True Magazine] (Ruppelt) Why I Believe In Flying Saucers (MacKinlay Kantor) What You Can Believe About Flying Saucers (Sydney Shalett)  [pdf files]  Part 1  Part 2 Zeta Reticuli Incident (Dickinson)     Symposium On Unidentified Flying Objects House of Representatives, Committee on Science & Astronautics (July 29, 1968)   Albert M. 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Ruppelt (Mike Hall & Wendy Connors) Stanton Friedman UFOs: Challenge to SETI Specialists - Stanton Friedman More On UFOs (Physics Today) - Stanton Friedman Richard Haines Review Of Selected Sightings From Aircraft From 1973-1978 (1979) Review Of Selected Sightings From Aircraft From 1942-1952 (1983) Fifty-Six Aircraft Pilot Sightings Involving E-M Effects (1992) The UFO Phenomenon and Behavioral Scientist (1979) Melbourne Episode - Case Study of a Missing Pilot (1987) Richard Hall Signals, Noise, UFO Waves [1990] UFO Evidence (1964) UFO Evidence II (1998) Journal of UFO History The Quest For The Truth About UFOs: A Personal Perspective On The Role Of NICAP The Science of UFOs: Facts vs. Stereotypes 1967: The Overlooked UFO Wave And The Colorado Project DYAD Scout Ship Conceptualizing UFOs UFOs: The Real Question (Colorado Briefing, 1966) The Night The Alien Died Whither UFOlogy? Mike Hall & Wendy Connors Alfred Loedding and the Great Flying Saucer Wave of 1947 The Forgotten Correspondence of Edward Ruppelt Paul Hill Unconventional Flying Objects: A Scientific Analysis [1995, 1997 Review by Puthoff] (Paul Hill)   J.Allen Hynek Are Flying Saucers Real? (Dec. 17, 1966) - J. 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McDonald Francis Ridge Air Force Figures Tell Real Story: 88.79% Unexplained (Fran Ridge) Roswell & The Wave 0f  '47 -  Too Many Coincidences (Fran Ridge) The 1975 SAC Base Northern Tier Overflights (Fran Ridge) A Puzzling Radar Incident (Fran Ridge) Observational Evidence of the "Sorensen Effect", Domes, Etc. (Fran Ridge) The Sighting Wave of 1967 - Indiana (Fran Ridge) A Mock Congressional Hearing: The Ruppelt Record (Fran Ridge) Engineers Praise Disc Performance (Fran Ridge) The Case For Flying Saucers (Fran Ridge) Regional Encounters: The FC Files [Complete 170-page book] (Fran Ridge) UFOs, the AISS, and Air Force Interest After Blue Book (Fran Ridge) The MADAR Project (Fran Ridge) The UFO Sighting Wave Of 1965 (Fran Ridge/NCP) MADAR 15 & The "WOW" Signal (Fran Ridge/NCP) 200 Miles Up: The Boys Upstairs (Fran Ridge/NCP) Pandora's Box: What Have we Done? 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NICAP Home Page

    

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[Greedy Jambo]

Mars is bright as **** tonight. 

[maroonlegions]

14 hours ago, Greedy Jambo said:

Mars is bright as **** tonight. 

Yip it was.

[maroonlegions]

The UFO research of NASA Aerodynamicist Paul R. Hill ,  his book 'Unconventional Flying Objects: A Scientific Analysis' has been made available on free pdf format here - the book never actually addresses the origin of UFOs but does speculate about the consistency of patterns in behaviour, physical properties, propulsion possibilities etc.. it also brings up aspects like UFOs changing colour during acceleration, the lack of sonic booms and other UFO flight characteristics.

 

 

 

Paul Hill was a well-respected NASA scientist when, in the early 1950s, he had a UFO sighting. Soon after, he built the first flying platform and was able to duplicate the UFO's tilt-to-control maneuvers. Official policy, however, prevented him from proclaiming his findings. "I was destined," says Hill, "to remain as unidentified as the flying objects."

For the next twenty-five years, Hill acted as an unofficial clearing house at NASA, collecting and analyzing sightings' reports for physical properties, propulsion possibilities, dynamics, etc. To refute claims that UFOs defy the laws of physics, he had to make "technological sense ... of the unconventional object."

After his retirement from NASA, Hill finally completed his remarkable analysis. In Unconventional Flying Objects, published posthumously, he presents his findings that UFOs "obey, not defy, the laws of physics." Vindicating his own sighting and thousands of others, he proves that UFO technology is not only explainable, but attainable.

 

"I had access to special libraries, so we could go up to the library that the Air Force ran and sort of paw through top-secret material. Since I was interested in UFOs, I’d look to see what they had. For about a year, I was getting quite a few hits. Then, all of a sudden, the whole subject material vanished. The entire classification for the subject just vanished."  

 

 

Edited October 21, 2020 by maroonlegions

[maroonlegions]

Haunted Skies. British UAPs sightings.

 

Witness case;

 

"Here we had a number of object seen coming in across the North Sea on coastal radar. It looked like a Russian mistake. Jet aircraft were scrambled. The objects were travelling at quite impossible speeds like 4-5000 mph and then came to an abrupt halt near to one of these stations not very high up. Jet aircraft picked them up on aircraft radar. The objects then simply made rings round them." 

Ralph Noyes,Senior Official with British Air Ministry - retired as Under Secretary of State in 1977;

 

 

 

As i pointed out, there have been 1000s of such incursions into restricted British Air space. 

Fighter jets scrambled to investigate radar detected unknowns , only for them to be unable to copy the teck shown by the unknowns they are investigating.  

 

Official statements  from sources like Ralph Noyes, a senior Official with the British Air Ministry ,who retired as Under Secretary of State in 1977  have to be included and noted .
 

 

Military aircraft gun cameras have filmed thousands of UFOs, according to pilot reports; however, not one frame of gun camera film has ever been released. At the same time thousands of feet of airplanes being shot down have been released. These films were archived at several locations and should be released. In addition, videotape has now replaced film and these tapes should also be released. Years ago, Major John A. Samford acknowledged that thousands of pilots had tried in vain to intercept UFOs, a fact acknowledged by most pilots today. It was acknowledged that two jet interceptors near Wright Patterson Air Force Base on August 1, 1952 did take gun camera film, a standard operating procedure.

 

 

And not only in British air space do we have fighter jets being scrambled to intercept UAPs  .

 

Take this encounter from Peru, involving a Peruvian air force pilots dog fight with a UAPs.

 

Comandante Huerta's full statement follows:


"I am Oscar Santa Maria Huerta, official pilot of the Peruvian Air Force, currently retired.

On April 11, 1980, at 7:15 in the morning, 1800 men were in formation at the Air Base of La Joya, Arequipa.

They all observed a stationary object in the sky, which looked like a balloon, at about three miles distance, and approximately 1,800 feet altitude. It was luminous because it reflected the sun.

My unit commander ordered me to takeoff in my Sukhoi 22 jet to shoot down the spherical object. It was in restricted airspace, without clearance, and we were concerned about espionage.

I approached the object and strafed sixty-four 30 mm. shells at it. Some projectiles went towards the ground, and others hit the object fully, but they had no effect at all. The projectiles didn't bounce off; probably they were absorbed. The cone-shaped "wall of fire" that I sent out would normally obliterate anything in its path.

The object then began to ascend, and move farther away from the base. When I was at about 36,000 ft., it made a sudden stop, forcing me to veer to the side since I was only 1500 feet away. I flew up higher to attack It from above, but just as I had locked on to the target and was ready to shoot, the object made a straight vertical climb evading the attack.

Two more times, I had the object on target, when the object was stationary. Each time, it moved away at the very last minute, when I was just about to fire, always eluding my attack.

I decided to climb at full thrust to get above the object, bit began to ascend almost parallel to my plane, and when I reached 63,000 ft., it stopped.

At this point, I came within about 300 feet of the UFO. It was about 30 feet in diameter. It was an enameled, cream-colored dome, with a wide, circular, metallic base. It had no engines, no exhausts, no windows, no wings or antennae. It lacked all the typical aircraft components, with no visible propulsion system.

It was at that moment that I realized that this was no spying device, but that it was a UFO, something totally unknown. I was almost out of fuel, so I couldn't attack or maneuver my plane, or make a high speed escape. I was afraid. I thought I might be finished.

When I had calmed down, I radioed for another plane to come and have a look, trying to hide my fear. They said no, it's too high, just come back. I had to glide part way down due to lack of fuel, zigzagging to make my plane harder to hit, always with my eyes on the rearview mirrors, hoping it wouldn't chase me. It didn't.

I spent 22 minutes maneuvering with this object. After I landed, the object remained stationary in the sky for two more hours, for everyone at the base to see.

A US Department of Defense document titled 'UFO Sighted in Peru' described the incident, stating that the vehicle's origin remains unknown.
 **************************************************************************************************************************************

 

And a response from the U.S. Department of Defense document reads;

 

Commander with the Peruvian Air Force (FAP), Ret. Specialization as an Air Force fighter jet pilot. In 1980, while a FAP Lieutenant, he encountered a UFO while flying his SU-22 "SUKOI" jet over the La Joya Military Base. He fired at the object, strafing it with sixty-four 30mm rounds, but the UFO remained unaffected.

A US Department of Defense document for the CIA and the NSA, titled “UFO Sighted in Peru,” describes the incident. “The Peruvian Air Force tried to intercept and destroy the UFO, but without success," it states, adding that the vehicle’s origin remains unknown. CMDT Santa Maris is currently a Flight Safety and Accident Prevention Consultant for the airline industry.

 

Document link, to original from the U.S. Department of Defense;

 

Document;
 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited October 21, 2020 by maroonlegions

[maroonlegions]

It is no accident that not one bit of fighter jet gun camera footage showing fighter jets encounters with UPAs has every been released through any freedom of information requests. Nor is it by any coincidence  ,that such footage is never  included when official UFO/UAPs  documents are released by governments.  The fact is that gun footage evidence of UAPS   exist and the evidence is there.

 

And folk wonder why there is no evidence...

Edited October 21, 2020 by maroonlegions

[Greedy Jambo]

48 minutes ago, maroonlegions said:

It is no accident that not one bit of fighter jet gun camera footage showing fighter jets encounters with UPAs has every been released through any freedom of information requests. Nor is it by any coincidence  ,that such footage is never  included when official UFO/UAPs  documents are released by governments.  The fact is that gun footage evidence of UAPS   exist and the evidence is there.

 

And folk wonder why there is no evidence...

Apart from that massive Triangle they shot at and then covered up. 

 

http://www.lightsonufos.com/ufo-over-los-angeles-1942/

[Greedy Jambo]

[Maple Leaf]

3 hours ago, maroonlegions said:

It is no accident that not one bit of fighter jet gun camera footage showing fighter jets encounters with UPAs has every been released through any freedom of information requests. Nor is it by any coincidence  ,that such footage is never  included when official UFO/UAPs  documents are released by governments.  The fact is that gun footage evidence of UAPS   exist and the evidence is there.

 

And folk wonder why there is no evidence...

 

It's my understanding that gun cameras are only activated when the guns are fired.  If the fighter jets did not fire at the UAPs then there would be no footage.

[ri Alban]

13 hours ago, maroonlegions said:

It is no accident that not one bit of fighter jet gun camera footage showing fighter jets encounters with UPAs has every been released through any freedom of information requests. Nor is it by any coincidence  ,that such footage is never  included when official UFO/UAPs  documents are released by governments.  The fact is that gun footage evidence of UAPS   exist and the evidence is there.

 

And folk wonder why there is no evidence...

Aye let's publish all the secret technologies being worked on. 👍

UFO-Stealth bomber etc... test flights

[Greedy Jambo]

8 hours ago, ri Alban said:

Aye let's publish all the secret technologies being worked on. 👍

UFO-Stealth bomber etc... test flights

 

They don't have top secret test flights taking place in the same areas and same time as your standard military flights/practice missions, the clue is in the word Secret. Therefore when the airforce or navy claim to have seen or even chased something far superior to their own capabilities , you have to question wtf it is. 

[ri Alban]

2 hours ago, Greedy Jambo said:

 

They don't have top secret test flights taking place in the same areas and same time as your standard military flights/practice missions, the clue is in the word Secret. Therefore when the airforce or navy claim to have seen or even chased something far superior to their own capabilities , you have to question wtf it is. 

That'll be the Mig. 

[Greedy Jambo]

1 minute ago, ri Alban said:

That'll be the Mig. 

 

Ha, maybe 50 odd years ago. 

the Mig is actually something that was tested at area 51, Isreal got a hold of one and loaned it to the Americans 

 

[Maple Leaf]

This is definitely worth a read:

 

UFOs invade Hollywood: Miley Cyrus saw a flying snowplow and Demi Lovato is now talking to aliens

 

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Demi Lovato wants her fans to befriend aliens to help save the planet.

Or she’s hawking an app that, for $13.99, claims to provide “instructions and tools to assist you in making peaceful contact with extraterrestrial civilizations.” Buyer beware, I guess. But this is one time you should probably give the Terms and Conditions a careful read before clicking “Agree.”

Still, imagine if it does work? You make contact and strike up a rapport with the alien. At first, it’s fantastic. You gab all night about wormholes and plot holes in “Men in Black.” Then the alien gets clingy and decides to squat in your house.

 

You walk into the living room and the alien is nibbling on unsalted cashews and rearranging the furniture with psychokinesis. You’re trying to watch the World Series and the alien keeps using her mind to switch over to HGTV. Then you need to blow another 14 bucks on an app that helps you peacefully break up with the alien without sparking an intergalactic incident.

No thank you, Dr. Steven M. Greer.

That’s the ufologist and man behind the alien-contact app. Greer also recently accompanied Lovato on a pilgrimage to Joshua Tree. As she wrote on Instagram: “Over the past couple months I have dug deep into the science of consciousness and experienced not only peace and serenity like I’ve never known but I also have witnessed the most incredibly profound sightings both in the sky as well as feet away from me. This planet is on a very negative path towards destruction but WE can change that together.”

Then it gets weirder: “If we were to get 1% of the population to meditate and make contact, we would force our governments to acknowledge the truth about extraterrestrial life among us and change our destructive habits destroying our planet. This is just some of the evidence from under the stars in the desert sky that can no longer be ignored and must be shared immediately ... to make contact yourself you can download the CE5 app and it will teach you the protocols to connect to life form beyond our planet!! (Ps, if it doesn’t happen on the first try — keep trying — it took me several sessions to tap into a deep enough level of meditation to make contact!) Happy communicating.”

 

This is like one of those stories in which the person glosses over the part that leaves you gobsmacked: “So we were on this fishing trip and the weather was glorious and Bigfoot stole our trout and I had on a cap my grandfather used to wear because, as I say, the sunshine was dazzling.”

I’m sorry. Back up. Who stole what now?

You know who I feel sorry for? Lovato’s ex-fiancé, Max Ehrich. That poor ******* keeps publicly whining about not being able to get two minutes of FaceTime to clarify the Terms and Conditions of their sudden trip to Splitsville, and Lovato is in Joshua Tree making small talk with extraterrestrials?

That is one cosmic slap in the face.

But you know what? I love that celebrities are now trading navelgazing for sky-watching.

 

Not that long ago, if a star talked about life on another planet or aliens among us or parallel dimensions, a red-faced publicist would’ve stormed into the interview suite and snatched the tape recorder. The stigma is gone. Celebrities are now declaring the truth is out there.

What is the truth? I have no idea.

But by simply asking, celebrities are helping to mainstream the possibilities.

In a Q&A published this week in Interview, Miley Cyrus recalled an event that left her “shaken” for days. She was driving through San Bernardino with a friend when she “got chased down by some sort of UFO,” which she described, oddly for California, as a “flying snowplow.”

“It had this big plow in the front of it and was glowing yellow,” she said. “I did see if flying, and my friend saw it, too.”

As a side note, I will never understand why celebrities can take like 80 boring selfies in a day and then never whip out their phones when a flying snowplow is buzzing the convertible. It makes no sense. And while I’m not disputing what Miley witnessed, I will simply point out this sighting took place right after she “bought weed wax from a guy in a van in front of a taco shop.”

So who knows. Maybe this was the weed wax? Maybe it was a close encounter of the taco kind?

Other celebrities now on the UFO bandwagon, according to a story this week in Us Weekly, include Post Malone, January Jones, Kurt Russell, Jennifer Lawrence, Halle Berry, Russell Crowe, The Rock, Katy Perry, Tom Cruise, Alicia Keys, Keanu Reeves and Gigi Hadid.

That’s an impressive roster of alien surrogates. And all of this comes as the U.S. military has entered an era of openness to what may or may not be out there. It comes as people like UFO whistleblower Bob Lazar are getting a retrial in the court of public opinion — and this time the jury is not biased.

 

Celebrities used to mostly care about the material trappings of this world.

Now they are looking up, way up, for deeper meaning. This is a welcome change.

App or no app, I salute Demi Lovato for trying to understand our place in the universe.

[JFK-1]

There's no more proof of aliens than there is of ghosts. Though I suspect many a celebrity believes every anecdotal claim of both. And would try punting a ghost communication app.

[Greedy Jambo]

8 minutes ago, JFK-1 said:

There's no more proof of aliens than there is of ghosts. Though I suspect many a celebrity believes every anecdotal claim of both. And would try punting a ghost communication app.

 

Absence of proof is not proof of absence 😉

 

 

[JFK-1]

Just now, Greedy Jambo said:

 

Absence of proof is not proof of absence 😉

 

 

 

Indeed, no proof of leprechauns or unicorns. Maybe they're real. 😉

[Greedy Jambo]

Just now, JFK-1 said:

 

Indeed, no proof of leprechauns or unicorns. Maybe they're real. 😉

 

I've not heard many military personnel claim to have chased a leprechaun, no unicorns have appeared on radar either, as far as i'm aware. 

[JFK-1]

1 minute ago, Greedy Jambo said:

 

I've not heard many military personnel claim to have chased a leprechaun, no unicorns have appeared on radar either, as far as i'm aware. 

 

I have no idea who has reported leprechaun sightings. What I do know is that there is no proof of aliens on radar. And no proof that any pilot has chased any. In fact the evidence would suggest that the Pentagon is actually trolling believers.
 

 

[Greedy Jambo]

Just now, JFK-1 said:

 

I have no idea who has reported leprechaun sightings. What I do know is that there is no proof of aliens on radar. And no proof that any pilot has chased any. In fact the evidence would suggest that the Pentagon is actually trolling believers.
 

 

 

Yeah, the debunkers claims have been answered by commander david fravor who witnessed the tic tac ufo with his own eyes, along with 3 others, plus the radar operators. I tend to take the word of trained pilots with decades of experience over random folk with youtube channels. 

[JFK-1]

Just now, Greedy Jambo said:

 

Yeah, the debunkers claims have been answered by commander david fravor who witnessed the tic tac ufo with his own eyes, along with 3 others, plus the radar operators. I tend to take the word of trained pilots with decades of experience over random folk with youtube channels. 

 

And I tend to take the word of trained scientists with decades of experience and PHD's. And they say this isn't real. And in fact that 'random' youtuber is also a scientist. And you haven't even looked at what he is saying.

You're coming across as someone who believes what they want to believe no matter what. 

[Greedy Jambo]

2 minutes ago, JFK-1 said:

 

And I tend to take the word of trained scientists with decades of experience and PHD's. And they say this isn't real. And in fact that 'random' youtuber is also a scientist. And you haven't even looked at what he is saying.

You're coming across as someone who believes what they want to believe no matter what. 

 

Aye, because i've aleady watched a few of them, people calling it a bird etc. 

Have you watched that documentary i posted? The Phenomenon? I doubt it.