damo Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2020/01/27/daniel-stendels-hearts-beat-title-chasing-rangers-forensic-analysis/ Apologies if posted elsewhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ak47 Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 Good read that 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i8hibsh Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 I'm such a fan of this style of football. It is not perfect however and our high defensive line was exposed twice yesterday to almost costly outcomes. I was impressed however how our defenders raced back and threw themselves into the challenge to recover once we were caught out. They all had each others backs which I absolutely loved. We will demolish teams by 3,4,5 or 6 goals but we will get caught out now and again also. So glad we have our mojo back though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davieholt Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 I won't pretend I understand the minutiae of the system or the thinking behind it but I enjoy watching it and it worked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Japan Jambo Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 No chance of any of that from the BBC....very interesting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corryjambo Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 Can you imagine Billy Dodds, Chick Young, Willie Miller, Pat Bonnar or any of our other "experts" writing an article like that? No neither can I. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highlandjambo3 Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 The good thing here is other teams, coaches, managers etc...reading this will be more inclined to stop us playing like this which falls into the hands of us not bothering what other teams are doing, let them bother about us. Let’s see if we can pull this off away from home now, if we control the game at the farm on Saturday and come away with 1 or 3 points then yesterday was planned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
damo Posted January 27, 2020 Author Share Posted January 27, 2020 1 minute ago, i8hibsh said: I'm such a fan of this style of football. It is not perfect however and our high defensive line was exposed twice yesterday to almost costly outcomes. I was impressed however how our defenders raced back and threw themselves into the challenge to recover once we were caught out. They all had each others backs which I absolutely loved. We will demolish teams by 3,4,5 or 6 goals but we will get caught out now and again also. So glad we have our mojo back though. Yes, think we're all happy to see a positive approach with risks than a no risk negative approach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merrymac Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 2 minutes ago, corryjambo said: Can you imagine Billy Dodds, Chick Young, Willie Miller, Pat Bonnar or any of our other "experts" writing an article like that? No neither can I. Reading and understanding it would be a push, never mind writing it!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PortyJambo Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 11 minutes ago, Jap Jambo said: No chance of any of that from the BBC....very interesting. Yeah, their analysis amounted to a "ziggy-zaggy line"... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merrymac Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 5 minutes ago, PortyJambo said: Yeah, their analysis amounted to a "ziggy-zaggy line"... Crayons involved? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlphonseCapone Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 Really good analysis. The pictures and arrows along with the explanations are ideal for helping fans understand how the system works. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnasher75 Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 Brilliant article. I love analysis like that. Balanced and neutral, explaining the system and the pros and cons. As others have said our pundits and writers should take note. One of the players getting interviewed recently explained that the high press will lead to more chances at both ends but statistically should give more chances to the team doing the high press. I am pretty sure we would all rather watch exciting football and occasionally lose due to the space we leave at the back than watch us desperately trying to cling on to a 1-0 win by parking the bus. One thing highlighted is that the back 4 need to improve on communication and positioning so we have a more effective offside trap. If other teams realise all the space is behind our defence they will just keep playing through balls and we need to ensure our defence is as well drilled as Arsenal back in the days of Tony Adams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlphonseCapone Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 1 minute ago, merrymac said: Crayons involved? Started with them but they were eaten. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1971fozzy Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 Great read. Im being entertained again after years of eye bleeding garbage. We will lose some of course, but as time goes on the players will learn and tighten up. Boyce is absolutely massive and Sean Clare (possibly at fault for not picking up Kent at their goal) is an absolute revelation, playing superbly and couldn’t be happier for the lad. we hope that all our bad luck with injuries turns. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlphonseCapone Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 1 minute ago, gnasher75 said: Brilliant article. I love analysis like that. Balanced and neutral, explaining the system and the pros and cons. As others have said our pundits and writers should take note. One of the players getting interviewed recently explained that the high press will lead to more chances at both ends but statistically should give more chances to the team doing the high press. I am pretty sure we would all rather watch exciting football and occasionally lose due to the space we leave at the back than watch us desperately trying to cling on to a 1-0 win by parking the bus. One thing highlighted is that the back 4 need to improve on communication and positioning so we have a more effective offside trap. If other teams realise all the space is behind our defence they will just keep playing through balls and we need to ensure our defence is as well drilled as Arsenal back in the days of Tony Adams. Time and consistency in personnel will help massively with this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OmiyaHearts Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 21 minutes ago, corryjambo said: Can you imagine Billy Dodds, Chick Young, Willie Miller, Pat Bonnar or any of our other "experts" writing an article like that? No neither can I. I can't imagine any of them being able to write. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Portable Badger Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 22 minutes ago, i8hibsh said: I'm such a fan of this style of football. It is not perfect however and our high defensive line was exposed twice yesterday to almost costly outcomes. I was impressed however how our defenders raced back and threw themselves into the challenge to recover once we were caught out. They all had each others backs which I absolutely loved. We will demolish teams by 3,4,5 or 6 goals but we will get caught out now and again also. So glad we have our mojo back though. We demand the old i8 returns !!! Can't cope with your new found positivity 😉 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
busby1985 Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 The BBC said “too zig zaggy” when describing phases of play yesterday 😂😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i8hibsh Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 3 minutes ago, Portable Badger said: We demand the old i8 returns !!! Can't cope with your new found positivity 😉 **** Budge and the SNP! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnasher75 Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 1 minute ago, AlphonseCapone said: Time and consistency in personnel will help massively with this. Definitely. It's early days. And even yesterday we had 3 different left backs including a guy making his debut so they did brilliantly considering. I have been looking forward to a Souttar - Halkett partnership since last summer and it is finally possible and they both looked brilliant yesterday. But I don't know which of them is the Tony Adams, doing the shouting and organising the defence. Both are capable of it and it is great to have two potential captains back there but one of them - presumably Souttar - needs to take control and call the line, claim for offside, etc. If we get that sorted it could be very exciting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i8hibsh Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 Seriously though I am buzzing after beating the huns. Just gutted the derby came too soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merrymac Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 6 minutes ago, busby1985 said: The BBC said “too zig zaggy” when describing phases of play yesterday 😂😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toxteth O'Grady Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 A quality article thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamboozy Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 “Rangers players chasing balls like dogs on a tennis court “. Hahaha 😂 great stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1953 Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 I never have any idea about the technical side of things so that article explained a lot. It also suggested that we won because we didn't let Rangers play their usual game rather than Hearts won because The Rangers were crap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vegas-voss Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 18 minutes ago, busby1985 said: The BBC said “too zig zaggy” when describing phases of play yesterday 😂😂 🤣🤣🤣 stuck in the 80's the ignorant ****s Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Portable Badger Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 14 minutes ago, i8hibsh said: **** Budge and the SNP! Welcome back! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brick Tamland Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 Great piece of sports journalism particularly liked "Rangers' defensive shape has turned into porridge " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Dan Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 You can see why he shifted the likes of Berra and Whelan. You need to be very mobile at the back in case of the counter attack. Up front you need energy, control and accuracy of passing when in possession to maintain the high press. There’s also very little room for individuality as the whole team need to work together as one unit. When it’s working it will be exciting to watch. I commented yesterday on the match thread, buckle up as this could be interesting. If it fails we could be punished if it succeeds it’s a winner. I like it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darren Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 I'm not usually one for long articles on tactics but that was really interesting. Cheers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finlay James Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 Really interesting read, very balanced. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karipidis Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 1 hour ago, i8hibsh said: Seriously though I am buzzing after beating the huns. Just gutted the derby came too soon. Still one more to come... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 1 hour ago, i8hibsh said: I'm such a fan of this style of football. It is not perfect however and our high defensive line was exposed twice yesterday to almost costly outcomes. I was impressed however how our defenders raced back and threw themselves into the challenge to recover once we were caught out. They all had each others backs which I absolutely loved. We will demolish teams by 3,4,5 or 6 goals but we will get caught out now and again also. So glad we have our mojo back though. I think the defence will take a bit of time to perfect it, it’s all a bit chaotic and last ditch just now. In the video that was posted with no commentary you can hear Naismith screaming something to them when Defoe went well through in the first half, couldn’t quite make it out though. The fans and layers are feeding off each other and giving energy and power as Stendel likes to say. It’s all positives just now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homme Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 Really enjoyed that. Focused what we did good and what we could do better at. Remember this is all still so new to our players. We will see further improvement in the coming months and the players not cut out for it won't be around for long. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUTOL Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 1 hour ago, busby1985 said: The BBC said “too zig zaggy” when describing phases of play yesterday 😂😂 I thought it was Michael Stewart that said it when talking about the shape of the back 4 at one point on Sportscene. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambogirlglasgow Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 1 hour ago, corryjambo said: Can you imagine Billy Dodds, Chick Young, Willie Miller, Pat Bonnar or any of our other "experts" writing an article like that? No neither can I. I’d be very surprised if they could read it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
it_hearts Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 Has Graham spiers says anything nice after yesterday about our unkept manager? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haringshairband Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 Really interesting read. Proper sports journalism. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schillaci Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 1 hour ago, AlphonseCapone said: Time and consistency in personnel will help massively with this. That and I'll bet that Oor Daniel will be drilling them like a maniacal dentist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OTT Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 Huh, I always wondered what real sports journalism looked like, as opposed to that kiddie on shite Sportscene churns out. Honestly, I want Sutherlands hard-drives checked. He's 100% no right. Skin crawl inducing weirdo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XB52 Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 14 minutes ago, karipidis said: Still one more to come... Two if we keep playing like last night; or if the hobos collapse as usual Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvin Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 Great read thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 Michael Stewart would say that is what he said on Sportscene. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robbo1874 Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 Thanks for sharing. Very informative, proper journalism. I've even sent it to my 80 year old dad to read 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midloth_Iain Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 Jack Ross gave up after the first paragraph - it was too technical for him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seymour M Hersh Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 JJ Bull is good at this sort of analysis in the Telegraph. However to counter balance his excellent articles they have that total Rsole Roddy Nasal Forsyth to make arse cheek feel at home. On us. It will take time to get it consistently right and defensively consistent players selection is pretty key especially in the middle (you only have to look Liverpool with CCD & Gomez) and they need to have pace. The more they train using the system and the more they buy into it the better it will become. This (gegenpressing) is exactly the reason I wanted a German coach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deid Heid Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 2 hours ago, corryjambo said: Can you imagine Billy Dodds, Chick Young, Willie Miller, Pat Bonnar or any of our other "experts" writing an article like that? No neither can I. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NB GIN Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 Can only imagine Craig levein watching this and what is going on here .... it must be the most opposite tactics imaginable from the negative dross he overseen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogue Daddy Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 Can you imagine the Daily Record writing such a piece 😂😂😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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