Coronavirus Super Thread ( merged )

[JudyJudyJudy]

37 minutes ago, redjambo said:

 

There's no way the SG will be able to keep families apart at Christmas. So, they're going to have to concentrate on very clear and concise advice (bubbles, isolation etc.) and plough resources into quick-result testing with the aim of carrying out a massive national testing program before Christmas. Alternatively they might possibly enforce a strict lockdown just before Christmas if need be in order to keep Christmas clear. However, as an optimist, I'm hoping that we'll have far more control of the virus by then and that infection rates will be well down.

 

If you're into malts by the way, the Arran distillery do a nice selection of cask finishes, including Amarone, Sauternes and Marsala. The Marsala one is superb, imo.

Aye they can forget about trying to police Xmas day.  Mass civil disobedience will be the order of the day , if it’s still the sand restrictions . It probably won’t be as the SG will try save face and “ Allow” family visits maybe wrapping them up as “ compassionate visits “ just for the 24 hours , then come Jan full lockdown as no one really goes out then and most people are depressed 

[JudyJudyJudy]

37 minutes ago, redjambo said:

 

There's no way the SG will be able to keep families apart at Christmas. So, they're going to have to concentrate on very clear and concise advice (bubbles, isolation etc.) and plough resources into quick-result testing with the aim of carrying out a massive national testing program before Christmas. Alternatively they might possibly enforce a strict lockdown just before Christmas if need be in order to keep Christmas clear. However, as an optimist, I'm hoping that we'll have far more control of the virus by then and that infection rates will be well down.

 

If you're into malts by the way, the Arran distillery do a nice selection of cask finishes, including Amarone, Sauternes and Marsala. The Marsala one is superb, imo.

Aye they can forget about trying to police Xmas day.  Mass civil disobedience will be the order of the day , if it’s still the sand restrictions . It probably won’t be as the SG will try save face and “ Allow” family visits maybe wrapping them up as “ compassionate visits “ just for the 24 hours , then come Jan full lockdown as no one really goes out then and most people are depressed 

[JudyJudyJudy]

43 minutes ago, redjambo said:

 

There's no way the SG will be able to keep families apart at Christmas. So, they're going to have to concentrate on very clear and concise advice (bubbles, isolation etc.) and plough resources into quick-result testing with the aim of carrying out a massive national testing program before Christmas. Alternatively they might possibly enforce a strict lockdown just before Christmas if need be in order to keep Christmas clear. However, as an optimist, I'm hoping that we'll have far more control of the virus by then and that infection rates will be well down.

 

If you're into malts by the way, the Arran distillery do a nice selection of cask finishes, including Amarone, Sauternes and Marsala. The Marsala one is superb,  

Edited October 24, 2020 by JamesM48

[MoncurMacdonaldMercer]

1 hour ago, Enzo Chiefo said:

Neil Ferguson,  Imperial College's resident doommonger, has now opined that if families mix on Christmas Day then "loved ones will die". Not sure if those deaths are included in the 500k that he previously modelled😁. Best get a couple of good bottles of red in and a finest malt so we can go out in style.

 

Some journalist needs to do their job and ask some of these esteemed experts what causes the 10s of 1000s of folk to die of flu every year

 

and when it turns out that a big bunch of them die because mr a innocently went to his work feeling a bit under the weather who then passed it on to gender-neutral b who then went to the pub and passed it on to miss c who then mixed with granny at Christmas while feeling very slightly under the weather which killed granny

 

once that’s been established they then need to ask why they’ve complacently sat back and allowed granny to die every year until now

 

and finally would be good to establish if it was mr a or miss c who killed granny (maybe in conjunction with the under-funded health services)

 

not holding my breath for that question to be pursued too vigorously except maybe from that hysterical flat-earther lady on talk radio with the double-barelled name

 

 

[Don Dan]

16 minutes ago, JamesM48 said:

Aye they can forget about trying to police Xmas day.  Mass civil disobedience will be the order of the day , if it’s still the sand restrictions . It probably won’t be as the SG will try save face and “ Allow” family visits maybe wrapping them up as “ compassionate visits “ just for the 24 hours , then come Jan full lockdown as no one really goes out then and most people are depressed 

It will need to be more than 24 hours I would hope as people like to visit other close relatives and in laws on Boxing Day as well and some others like ourselves have a tradition of help those in need or who have no family by calling into to see them  and wish them a Merry Christmas with some gifts and good cheer. 

Edited October 24, 2020 by Boy Daniel

[AlimOzturk]

Imagine they try and police Christmas get togethers

 

There will be parties galore Imo. Even more so than most years. 
 

maybe that is why Wales are testing the waters now with the whole “essential” shopping only. Seeing if they can stop folk from actually getting their hands on alcohol a

[Lone Striker]

16 hours ago, Governor Tarkin said:

 

It's a shite job, but there'll be a couple of hundred thousand folk at a loose end come the end of the month, so mibbe best not to knock it.

 

Rather Wullie than me though. 

 

😀 👍

 

Seafield's the place to be 😲

 

https://informatics.sepa.org.uk/RNAmonitoring/

[Jambo-Jimbo]

26 minutes ago, Lone Striker said:

 

 

That's way easier to remember than whatever our 5 tiers will be called and that, what's it called again FACET or FALSE, I know it's got 5 letters but goodness knows what they are.

[FWJ]

18 minutes ago, MoncurMacdonaldMercer said:

 

Some journalist needs to do their job and ask some of these esteemed experts what causes the 10s of 1000s of folk to die of flu every year

 

and when it turns out that a big bunch of them die because mr a innocently went to his work feeling a bit under the weather who then passed it on to gender-neutral b who then went to the pub and passed it on to miss c who then mixed with granny at Christmas while feeling very slightly under the weather which killed granny

 

once that’s been established they then need to ask why they’ve complacently sat back and allowed granny to die every year until now

 

and finally would be good to establish if it was mr a or miss c who killed granny (maybe in conjunction with the under-funded health services)

 

not holding my breath for that question to be pursued too vigorously except maybe from that hysterical flat-earther lady on talk radio with the double-barelled name

 

 

The virus that caused Covid-19 is new and those as yet unexposed to it have zero immunity.

We have some immunity to seasonal flu and a vaccine (of variable efficacy).

Covid-19 is more likely to cause severe disease than flu and the per capita death rate is significantly higher.

 

Edit:  They haven’t complacently sat back and allowed granny to die every year, ‘they’ have been vaccinating granny and grandad and the otherwise vulnerable and hospitalising them if their flu makes them very ill.

Edited October 24, 2020 by FWJ

[3fingersreid]

48 minutes ago, FWJ said:

The virus that caused Covid-19 is new and those as yet unexposed to it have zero immunity.

We have some immunity to seasonal flu and a vaccine (of variable efficacy).

Covid-19 is more likely to cause severe disease than flu and the per capita death rate is significantly higher.

 

Edit:  They haven’t complacently sat back and allowed granny to die every year, ‘they’ have been vaccinating granny and grandad and the otherwise vulnerable and hospitalising them if their flu makes them very ill.

And yet the health board have paused the vaccinations of the flu jag at pharmacies 🤷🏻‍♂️

 

 

Not sure how granny dies every year 😉

[MoncurMacdonaldMercer]

45 minutes ago, FWJ said:

The virus that caused Covid-19 is new and those as yet unexposed to it have zero immunity.

We have some immunity to seasonal flu and a vaccine (of variable efficacy).

Covid-19 is more likely to cause severe disease than flu and the per capita death rate is significantly higher.

 

Edit:  They haven’t complacently sat back and allowed granny to die every year, ‘they’ have been vaccinating granny and grandad and the otherwise vulnerable and hospitalising them if their flu makes them very ill.

 

plenty experts disagree with your sentence about covid being more severe than flu plenty of course agree

 

covid is new but not as new as it was and as yet hasn’t pulled any big clubs out its bag that a version of hasn’t been seen before

 

if we don’t mix with granny she doesn’t get flu - right? how has this been allowed to happen - sounds like flu is so dangerous it needs a vaccine plus additional measures

 

I think there was about 28000 flu related deaths a few years ago - that’s likely a lot of dead grannies I don’t remember Christmas being cancelled then - I don’t actually remember any of them being important enough to make it on to the telly (that’s not say they didn’t)

 

[MoncurMacdonaldMercer]

6 minutes ago, 3fingersreid said:

And yet the health board have paused the vaccinations of the flu jag at pharmacies 🤷🏻‍♂️

 

 

Not sure how granny dies every year 😉

 

us flat earthers often also believe in reincarnation yes and good point about the vaccines if true - not doubting it is btw just not aware of it

Edited October 24, 2020 by MoncurMacdonaldMercer

[redjambo]

1 hour ago, JamesM48 said:

Aye they can forget about trying to police Xmas day.  Mass civil disobedience will be the order of the day , if it’s still the sand restrictions . It probably won’t be as the SG will try save face and “ Allow” family visits maybe wrapping them up as “ compassionate visits “ just for the 24 hours , then come Jan full lockdown as no one really goes out then and most people are depressed 

 

The SG would be better planning in the assumption that folk will be spending Christmas with their families no matter what the restrictions are, getting the level of infections as low as possible before then, aiming to encourage folk to make the festive period as safe as possible, and then being well prepared for any infection increase as a result.

[MoncurMacdonaldMercer]

1 minute ago, redjambo said:

 

The SG would be better planning in the assumption that folk will be spending Christmas with their families no matter what the restrictions are, getting the level of infections as low as possible before then, aiming to encourage folk to make the festive period as safe as possible, and then being well prepared for any infection increase as a result.

 

dont we have a top drawer test and trace system which will dampen-down greatly the affects of the  human-failings over Christmas ?

 

genuine question btw - if we don’t is there a particular reason why not?

[redjambo]

8 minutes ago, Brian Dundas said:

A big problem for Christmas is those that don’t have a family to spend Christmas with, often they go to large gatherings of similar folks from many households, what will they do?

 

Now that I think they'll ban. What they might do however is advise setting up "Christmas bubbles" (copyright pending), e.g. a small group of friends who only socialise with each other and no-one else during the festive period. But you wouldn't be allowed to mix between bubbles, and that includes family bubbles.

 

So, it would be a case of "Choose your bubble before the action starts".

 

As you can see, Brian, I have as much an idea as the next socially-distanced person in the street, i.e. next to nothing. I don't think however that the government can prevent mixing, what they can do is try and make sure that there is limited inter-mixing, that the same folks mix together over the festive period, and a period of isolation afterwards, so that any ensuing infections can be isolated within bubbles to as great an extent as possible.

 

It's just a thought.

Edited October 24, 2020 by redjambo

[Enzo Chiefo]

1 hour ago, AlimOzturk said:

Imagine they try and police Christmas get togethers

 

There will be parties galore Imo. Even more so than most years. 
 

maybe that is why Wales are testing the waters now with the whole “essential” shopping only. Seeing if they can stop folk from actually getting their hands on alcohol a

Sky News showing footage of a shopper in Wales ripping the tape off the clothing section of a supermarket.  Posted a video on social media saying it's inhumane to stop people buying clothes for their children.  Unfortunately the emergency powers acts have allowed both devolved assembly leaders and central govt ministers far too much power to wield and they all seem to be drifting towards megalomania.  The people of the country need to start regaining the initiative.  Making it clear to the political and scientific class that families WILL be celebrating Christmas together would be a good start.

Edited October 24, 2020 by Enzo Chiefo

[DETTY29]

18 minutes ago, MoncurMacdonaldMercer said:

 

dont we have a top drawer test and trace system which will dampen-down greatly the affects of the  human-failings over Christmas ?

 

genuine question btw - if we don’t is there a particular reason why not?

Hugh Pennington who has been a critic of SG at times, reckons the Scottish track and trace element is top drawer.

 

He didn't comment on the testing element (R  Scotland yesterday)

 

But, in England it is reckoned  only 11% of folk asked to self isolate do.  Can't say for certain but I recall a figure of 18% here.

 

All rather depressing.

Edited October 24, 2020 by DETTY29

[Jambo-Jimbo]

2 hours ago, redjambo said:

 

I've never drunk as much whisky as during the current pandemic. To help kill the Covid virus of course...

 

Just found a half of a half bottle of 10 yr old Jura single malt at the back of a cupboard, goodness knows how long that's been there, probably a good 10 years or more, anyway tastes alright (had a small sample, just to see if it was ok, you understand) but as it's now been exposed to the air in goodness how long, I guess I'll just have to force myself to drink it now. 

 

The things I have to do. 😃

[redjambo]

2 minutes ago, Jambo-Jimbo said:

 

Just found a half of a half bottle of 10 yr old Jura single malt at the back of a cupboard, goodness knows how long that's been there, probably a good 10 years or more, anyway tastes alright (had a small sample, just to see if it was ok, you understand) but as it's now been exposed to the air in goodness how long, I guess I'll just have to force myself to drink it now. 

 

The things I have to do. 😃

 

Slàinte!

[Enzo Chiefo]

31 minutes ago, MoncurMacdonaldMercer said:

 

plenty experts disagree with your sentence about covid being more severe than flu plenty of course agree

 

covid is new but not as new as it was and as yet hasn’t pulled any big clubs out its bag that a version of hasn’t been seen before

 

if we don’t mix with granny she doesn’t get flu - right? how has this been allowed to happen - sounds like flu is so dangerous it needs a vaccine plus additional measures

 

I think there was about 28000 flu related deaths a few years ago - that’s likely a lot of dead grannies I don’t remember Christmas being cancelled then - I don’t actually remember any of them being important enough to make it on to the telly (that’s not say they didn’t)

 

The flu season in 1989/90 killed more people in Scotland than the worst week for Covid deaths - in April - did. Over an 8 week period, more died than the equivalent worst 8 weeks of Covid. I don't remember it, never mind any mitigating measures taking place. It's a bit hypocrirical for govts to suddenly become concerned this year about "saving lives" and using the phrase as a form of population control. 

Hospitals are always under pressure at this time of year and thousands of deaths always occur. Respiratory disease is one of the main causes. 

Edited October 24, 2020 by Enzo Chiefo

[Jambo-Jimbo]

3 minutes ago, Enzo Chiefo said:

Sky News showing footage of a shopper in Wales ripping the tape off the clothing section of a supermarket.  Posted a video on social media saying it's inhumane to stop people buying clothes for their children.  Unfortunately the emergency powers acts have allowed both devolved assembly leaders and central govt ministers far too much power to wield and they all seem to be drifting towards megalomania.  The people of the country need to start regaining the initiative.  Making it clear to the political and scientific class that families WILL be celebrating Christmas together would be a good start.

 

Earlier one of their reporters had said that she was in a supermarket and couldn't buy, pants, socks or tights, but could buy halloween decorations.

She didn't say it but you could see by her expression that how the feck are halloween decorations classed as essentials whilst pants, socks & tights aren't.

[Enzo Chiefo]

Just now, Jambo-Jimbo said:

 

Earlier one of their reporters had said that she was in a supermarket and couldn't buy, pants, socks or tights, but could buy halloween decorations.

She didn't say it but you could see by her expression that how the feck are halloween decorations classed as essentials whilst pants, socks & tights aren't.

Absolutely mad. That Drakeford's a bit newtongrange tbh.

[hmfcbilly]

6 hours ago, Shanks said:

 

Yea I agree they could do a lot more to make it easier for people to eat healthy,  although diet is only half of it really.  It doesn’t cost anything to go for a jog for example 

Yeah you're right. Exercise needn't cost a thing. I guess you could file that part under lack of education? If, all a kid sees is their parents sat on their arse eating junk and watching TV, there's a good chance thats how they will be as an adult too. 

[FWJ]

32 minutes ago, MoncurMacdonaldMercer said:

 

plenty experts disagree with your sentence about covid being more severe than flu plenty of course agree

 

covid is new but not as new as it was and as yet hasn’t pulled any big clubs out its bag that a version of hasn’t been seen before

 

if we don’t mix with granny she doesn’t get flu - right? how has this been allowed to happen - sounds like flu is so dangerous it needs a vaccine plus additional measures

 

I think there was about 28000 flu related deaths a few years ago - that’s likely a lot of dead grannies I don’t remember Christmas being cancelled then - I don’t actually remember any of them being important enough to make it on to the telly (that’s not say they didn’t)

 

Covid will put people in hospital that wouldn’t otherwise be there meaning that there will be fewer beds available for the inevitable flu-related illnesses.

I’m glad it won’t be me who decides who gets the bed and the ventilator and who lies on a trolley in the corridor.

[3fingersreid]

33 minutes ago, MoncurMacdonaldMercer said:

 

us flat earthers often also believe in reincarnation yes and good point about the vaccines if true - not doubting it is btw just not aware of it

Oh it’s true my good lady is a dispenser in a pharmacy , in fact her boss very occasionally posts on here 

[Maple Leaf]

11 minutes ago, Jambo-Jimbo said:

 

Just found a half of a half bottle of 10 yr old Jura single malt at the back of a cupboard, goodness knows how long that's been there, probably a good 10 years or more, anyway tastes alright (had a small sample, just to see if it was ok, you understand) but as it's now been exposed to the air in goodness how long, I guess I'll just have to force myself to drink it now. 

 

The things I have to do. 😃

 

8 minutes ago, redjambo said:

 

Slàinte!

 

Thoughts and prayers!

 

To paraphrase Victoria, close your eyes and think of Scotland.

[DETTY29]

11 minutes ago, Enzo Chiefo said:

The flu season in 1989/90 killed more people in Scotland than the worst week for Covid deaths - in April - did. Over an 8 week period, more died than the equivalent worst 8 weeks of Covid. I don't remember it, never mind any mitigating measures taking place. It's a bit hypocrirical for govts to suddenly become concerned this year about "saving lives" and using the phrase as a form of population control. 

Hospitals are always under pressure at this time of year and thousands of deaths always occur. Respiratory disease is one of the main causes. 

Maybe an advantage of the flu (on the NHS) is that it kills people quickly whereas if you go to hospital with Covid you could be in ICU for weeks, and yes in extreme cases folk needing months of NHS physio support.

 

I don't know and Im in no way saying this is the case but as ever with this the end to end picture needs know to compare the 2.

Edited October 24, 2020 by DETTY29

[samgolden]

1 hour ago, MoncurMacdonaldMercer said:

 

Some journalist needs to do their job and ask some of these esteemed experts what causes the 10s of 1000s of folk to die of flu every year

 

and when it turns out that a big bunch of them die because mr a innocently went to his work feeling a bit under the weather who then passed it on to gender-neutral b who then went to the pub and passed it on to miss c who then mixed with granny at Christmas while feeling very slightly under the weather which killed granny

 

once that’s been established they then need to ask why they’ve complacently sat back and allowed granny to die every year until now

 

and finally would be good to establish if it was mr a or miss c who killed granny (maybe in conjunction with the under-funded health services)

 

not holding my breath for that question to be pursued too vigorously except maybe from that hysterical flat-earther lady on talk radio with the double-barelled name

 

 

Ask Questions they are part of the plan to shock people even the BBC are in it  see this link https://www.ukcolumn.org/article/covid-coercion-boris-johnsons-psychological-attack-uk-public

[CavySlaveJambo]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-54648684
 

This article is another fascinating read.  It explains how Covid is a problem and more of a problem that SARS which is why it spread so badly
 

It also explains why the 2009 Swine Flu pandemic was not as much of a problem as It could and should have been to the elderly. 
 

 

[FWJ]

3 minutes ago, CavySlaveJambo said:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-54648684
 

This article is another fascinating read.  It explains how Covid is a problem and more of a problem that SARS which is why it spread so badly
 

It also explains why the 2009 Swine Flu pandemic was not as much of a problem as It could and should have been to the elderly. 
 

 

I remember being mask-fitted for the 2009 outbreak. 

[JudyJudyJudy]

22 minutes ago, FWJ said:

Covid will put people in hospital that wouldn’t otherwise be there meaning that there will be fewer beds available for the inevitable flu-related illnesses.

I’m glad it won’t be me who decides who gets the bed and the ventilator and who lies on a trolley in the corridor.

Flu deaths will be down this year due to mask wearing etc I think 

[Seymour M Hersh]

1 hour ago, FWJ said:

The virus that caused Covid-19 is new and those as yet unexposed to it have zero immunity.

We have some immunity to seasonal flu and a vaccine (of variable efficacy).

Covid-19 is more likely to cause severe disease than flu and the per capita death rate is significantly higher.

 

Edit:  They haven’t complacently sat back and allowed granny to die every year, ‘they’ have been vaccinating granny and grandad and the otherwise vulnerable and hospitalising them if their flu makes them very ill.

 

Not true. If you've had colds throughout your lifetimes then the chances are (25% of common colds are coronaviruses) so we all probably have some immunity. Add to that the BCG jag we got in school has been found to help with fighting it. We're not total newborns with no immunity. 

[Jambo-Jimbo]

22 minutes ago, Enzo Chiefo said:

The flu season in 1989/90 killed more people in Scotland than the worst week for Covid deaths - in April - did. Over an 8 week period, more died than the equivalent worst 8 weeks of Covid. I don't remember it, never mind any mitigating measures taking place. It's a bit hypocrirical for govts to suddenly become concerned this year about "saving lives" and using the phrase as a form of population control. 

Hospitals are always under pressure at this time of year and thousands of deaths always occur. Respiratory disease is one of the main causes. 

 

I remember once when my work offered subsidised flu jabs, not that they were concerned about our health, but more that they were shitting themselves about lots of the workforce being Ill and off work, meaning production would suffer.

Could have been 1989/90, but can't say for sure.

[husref musemic]

8 hours ago, hmfcbilly said:

Hopefully this pandemic us a wake up call to WM and holyrood governments. Fund the NHS properly and make sure there's enough staff and hospital capacity to cope. Yesrs and years of penny pinching and under funding has resulted in a massive recession and mass job losses/businesses going down the tubes. How much would it have cost to fund more hospitals against how much this is costing??

there's a brand new hospital sitting at little France Four years past due, be 5 or 6 years late by the time it opens. 

 

who's paying the price (not Jeane freeman) for this fiasco ? 

[JudyJudyJudy]

36 minutes ago, Enzo Chiefo said:

Sky News showing footage of a shopper in Wales ripping the tape off the clothing section of a supermarket.  Posted a video on social media saying it's inhumane to stop people buying clothes for their children.  Unfortunately the emergency powers acts have allowed both devolved assembly leaders and central govt ministers far too much power to wield and they all seem to be drifting towards megalomania.  The people of the country need to start regaining the initiative.  Making it clear to the political and scientific class that families WILL be celebrating Christmas together would be a good start.

Yeah I saw that ! Good on him . People need. To start demonstrating or perhaps Scottish MPs need to grow a set amd question and scurtinise them 

[hmfcbilly]

1 minute ago, husref musemic said:

there's a brand new hospital sitting at little France Four years past due, be 5 or 6 years late by the time it opens. 

 

who's paying the price (not Jeane freeman) for this fiasco ? 

That is an absolute disgrace. How that woman is still in her role i have no idea. There seems to be no accountability at Holyrood the vast majority of times. Why should there be? All the other parties are so far behind the SNP that they constantly go unchallenged. If the folk being served by Westminster are the Spanish league, constant 2 horse race we are most definitely the bundesliga with the SNP being Bayern!

[Jambo-Jimbo]

1 minute ago, JamesM48 said:

Flu deaths will be down this year due to mask wearing etc I think 

 

And the large upsurge in people getting the flu jab, will help as well.

 

Australia & New Zealand have had a very low flu infection season, the hope is that'll be repeated in the Northern Hemisphere as well.

[redjambo]

4 minutes ago, Jambo-Jimbo said:

 

And the large upsurge in people getting the flu jab, will help as well.

 

Australia & New Zealand have had a very low flu infection season, the hope is that'll be repeated in the Northern Hemisphere as well.

 

Indeed. I read somewhere that in Aberdeen, for example, they were estimating that half of the population would be eligible for the jab this year.

[samgolden]

20 minutes ago, husref musemic said:

there's a brand new hospital sitting at little France Four years past due, be 5 or 6 years late by the time it opens. 

 

who's paying the price (not Jeane freeman) for this fiasco ? 

 

19 minutes ago, JamesM48 said:

Yeah I saw that ! Good on him . People need. To start demonstrating or perhaps Scottish MPs need to grow a set amd question and scurtinise them 

There’s a similar nightingale hospital in Glasgow for Corona patients just like the ones in other parts of the country they are empty now why is that if they were built to reduce the 

strain on local hospitals Reason they can’t staff them 

[Jambo-Jimbo]

31 minutes ago, Maple Leaf said:

 

 

Thoughts and prayers!

 

To paraphrase Victoria, close your eyes and think of Scotland.

 

Thank you, it's much appreciated, the things I do for my country, but somebody has to do it, I suppose.

[Jambo-Jimbo]

22 minutes ago, redjambo said:

 

Indeed. I read somewhere that in Aberdeen, for example, they were estimating that half of the population would be eligible for the jab this year.

 

Most of the oldies here got theirs this week.

The vulnerable under 65's (my group) got theirs almost a month ago now at the end of September, and there was a steady stream when I was at my GP's surgery for mine.

 

The more people who get the flu jab this year the better, not just for themselves, but also to potentially take pressure off the NHS, less flu cases means more capacity to treat covid cases, so the theory goes.

[Jambo-Jimbo]

18 minutes ago, samgolden said:

 

There’s a similar nightingale hospital in Glasgow for Corona patients just like the ones in other parts of the country they are empty now why is that if they were built to reduce the 

strain on local hospitals Reason they can’t staff them 

 

Weren't most of the staff having to come from surrounding hospitals, which would then leave normal hospitals even more short staffed then they already are.

[Robbofan99]

Anti lockdown presenters in London today 

police as usual heavy handed 

[Lone Striker]

9 minutes ago, Jambo-Jimbo said:

 

Weren't most of the staff having to come from surrounding hospitals, which would then leave normal hospitals even more short staffed then they already are.

There seems to be emergency plans to take most of the non-frontline duties away from hospital doctors & nurses by bringing in non-hospital NHS people like chiropodists to do them. Some GP's got seconded to the Covid hubs during lockdown too.  There was reduced  demand for GP appointments and non-urgent hospital surgery  anyway, so it seemed a reasonable re-deployment of medical expertise.       

[husref musemic]

1 hour ago, hmfcbilly said:

That is an absolute disgrace. How that woman is still in her role i have no idea. There seems to be no accountability at Holyrood the vast majority of times. Why should there be? All the other parties are so far behind the SNP that they constantly go unchallenged. If the folk being served by Westminster are the Spanish league, constant 2 horse race we are most definitely the bundesliga with the SNP being Bayern!

Unfortunately Freeman will retire to a fanfare as Leonard/Scottish labour are so ineffective meaning SNP incompetents are untouchable. 

[Robbofan99]

Quell surprise the dentist is “ suggesting “ the central belt will be in tier 3 come Nov 2nd ! Shame on the SG not having the guts to just have Glasgow in this tier considering their higher rates 

[redjambo]

39 minutes ago, Jambo-Jimbo said:

 

Most of the oldies here got theirs this week.

The vulnerable under 65's (my group) got theirs almost a month ago now at the end of September, and there was a steady stream when I was at my GP's surgery for mine.

 

The more people who get the flu jab this year the better, not just for themselves, but also to potentially take pressure off the NHS, less flu cases means more capacity to treat covid cases, so the theory goes.

 

Here's hoping. Here's also hoping that we will learn lessons from the increased flu vaccination program this year that will be useful when an eventual Covid vaccination program takes place.

[DETTY29]

28 minutes ago, Robbofan99 said:

Anti lockdown presenters in London today 

police as usual heavy handed 

Whatever that person was doing, that isn't on camera, I'll be pretty confident the police gave plenty warning to calm down. 

 

And what they were doing was beyond just being a *****

Edited October 24, 2020 by DETTY29

[hmfcbilly]

7 minutes ago, husref musemic said:

Unfortunately Freeman will retire to a fanfare as Leonard/Scottish labour are so ineffective meaning SNP incompetents are untouchable. 

Its quite depressing how little realistic choices we, as voters have

[hmfcbilly]

28 minutes ago, Robbofan99 said:

Anti lockdown presenters in London today 

police as usual heavy handed 

These protests are going to get bigger and bigger and be in other major cities soon. Folk are totally frustrated and fed up with the whole situation we are bring placed in.