Shanks said no Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 20 minutes ago, Enzo Chiefo said: Hopefully, the FM does regret her catastrophic decision to decant positive Covid patients into care homes and to ring fence hospitals for mythical predictions about hospitals being overwhelmed. Denying vital lifesaving treatment to, for example, cancer patients A far greater crime than visiting a relative, having a drink in a pub at 2201 or failing to wear a mask. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbofan99 Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 A ray of hope https://nypost.com/2020/09/22/japanese-firm-develops-first-uv-lamp-that-safely-kills-coronavirus/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam_the_legend Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 28 minutes ago, Robbofan99 said: She’s not doing As well as you think mate but carry on with your love fest with her 👍 England’s fault!! 🏴 🤪 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 5 minutes ago, Shooter McGavin said: I think people are beginning to think life with restrictions or another lockdown is more damaging than just letting the virus run it’s course. It’s clear it isn’t as deadly as once thought, in fact it is significantly less fatal than you’d have believed back in January, February & March. It’s constantly compared to the flu, and as someone with zero background in medical science I really can’t comment on wether that’s a fair comparison, but the overall impression is that it is like the flu in that a vaccine isn’t necessarily the answer and it just needs to run it’s course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dennis Reynolds Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 23 minutes ago, Adam_the_legend said: Not sure why the media haven’t picked up on this more. When Jason Leitch said they were a bit rubbish I was expecting everyone to start asking real questions about the efficacy of the PCR tests but nothing happened. Surely, if we are basing such extreme public policy on these tests we need to be absolutely certain they work. From what I’ve read there are some real issues with these tests and they were never designed as a diagnostic tool. 🤷🏼♂️ It's a different test. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Dan Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 @Captain Canada @Adam-the-legand Airport testing is being Adobe more and more countries. Italy and Spain testing it and considering it. https://www.canarianweekly.com/posts/All-travellers-will-be-tested-airports#ath https://www.independent.co.uk/travel/news-and-advice/italy-covid-free-flights-fiumicino-airport-30-minute-testing-coronavirus-passengers-b465505.html As usual the UK is fannying around whilst other countries get on and do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coconut doug Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 3 hours ago, Lord BJ said: We don’t have a time machine unfortunately. If we did a lot of stuff would have been very different, However, if Sweden don’t get a second spike. I would be advocating a break the cycle change. Where we put in light touch restrictions similar to Sweden, shield vulnerable (which I don’t get why not triggered here) and accept we would have a bit of short term pain for long term gain. Now it’s incredibly easy for me to type that. It’s much harder for politicians to sell that and I understand we are talking about lives. People are much likely to follow light touch restrictions to the letter than incredibly inconvienant restrictions, with many defying any logic. I think lockdown will turn out to have been a massive mistake in the long term. Also think some people have locked themselves into that strategy, I also think your being slightly disengeous suggesting we have followed Swede type restrictions until yesterday. Our lightest level of restrictions is more severe than Sweden have had. We have only been in phase 3 for a month or so. Much of the crisis has seen us live under much tougher restrictions including a full lockdown. Our restrictions have been much more severe and we seemed to have achieved little benefit from that strategy. Im not saying Swede have got it right there are difference but it’s only a country about twice the size of Scotland. It is a strategy that could be applied here in Scotland. I accept it will unlikely ever to be implemented. Though public will clamour for if they do manage to break the cycle. When i compared UK to France and Spain, you replied "We're not France or Spain". It seems we are in fact Sweden, who knew? Meanwhile over 200 dead in Spain yesterday, numbers rising in France and UK. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbofan99 Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 13 minutes ago, Lord BJ said: I’ll provide another I know of a project that is currently looking/hoping to go to manufacture. The device takes the air out a room and removes COVID from the air, in simplistic terms. The technology isn’t all that new, it had been developed previously for military use for chemical/dirty bombs etc. Its been adapted and passed a bundle of tests that prove it can remove the aerosols or whatever that contain CoVID. As you can imagine that impact of this could be huge. There has been a lot of funding put in place. The manufacturing is close to being secured, once they can sort out a few engineering issues. I don’t think the engineering issues are straight forward but there enough clever and practical people in the room to find solutions. It always hard to tell with things and particularly at this early stage. It wouldn’t necessarily solve the COVID problem but **** it would make life much easier. 14 minutes ago, Lord BJ said: I’ll provide another I know of a project that is currently looking/hoping to go to manufacture. The device takes the air out a room and removes COVID from the air, in simplistic terms. The technology isn’t all that new, it had been developed previously for military use for chemical/dirty bombs etc. Its been adapted and passed a bundle of tests that prove it can remove the aerosols or whatever that contain CoVID. As you can imagine that impact of this could be huge. There has been a lot of funding put in place. The manufacturing is close to being secured, once they can sort out a few engineering issues. I don’t think the engineering issues are straight forward but there enough clever and practical people in the room to find solutions. It always hard to tell with things and particularly at this early stage. It wouldn’t necessarily solve the COVID problem but **** it would make life much easier. Certainly would be a life saver for indoor venues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King prawn Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 Kay Burley is a nasty piece of work. No attempt to get real answers, just to make whoever it is she’s talking to look stupid. Sometimes that’s justified, others it’s just cringeworthy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shanks said no Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 Asking for a friend - took this off the latest SG guidance Inside people’s homes (from tomorrow, Wednesday 23 2020) Do not meet people from any other households in your home or another person’s home socially, unless they are in your extended household These rules also apply to children Children whose parents do not live in the same household can move between homes, as can non-cohabiting couples Very limited exemptions apply for childcare, and for tradespeople she is a hairdresser, so thats her trade and does a lot of her work doing home visits as it suits her lifestyle as she has 2 young kids. She cannot do her work from home, unless her customer was able to visit her, which is now banned. is a mobile hairdresser classed as a tradesperson? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samuel Camazzola Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 2 minutes ago, The Frenchman Returns said: Asking for a friend - took this off the latest SG guidance Inside people’s homes (from tomorrow, Wednesday 23 2020) Do not meet people from any other households in your home or another person’s home socially, unless they are in your extended household These rules also apply to children Children whose parents do not live in the same household can move between homes, as can non-cohabiting couples Very limited exemptions apply for childcare, and for tradespeople she is a hairdresser, so thats her trade and does a lot of her work doing home visits as it suits her lifestyle as she has 2 young kids. She cannot do her work from home, unless her customer was able to visit her, which is now banned. is a mobile hairdresser classed as a tradesperson? It does if she turns up with a box full of DeWalt's and a spirit level. 😉 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shanks said no Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 5 minutes ago, Lord BJ said: I would say yes they are carrying out a trade. Trades person is just some one who specialise in a trade in this case hairdressing. That was my thoughts too, she served her apprenticeship, learnt her trade and is therefore a tradesperson. 9 minutes ago, Samuel Camazzola said: It does if she turns up with a box full of DeWalt's and a spirit level. 😉 anything else would be rather sexist 😀 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SE16 3LN Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 2 hours ago, Riddley Walker said: Ah, so yesterday's disagreement (where you lost your shit at my innocuous comment) has stayed with you. While thankful for your concern, there are no hurt feelings here. Just a general bewilderment at the way you fly into stuff with unrelated comments. Come on, you came out swinging yesterday calling people childish names if they didn't disagree with you. Its OK though, Always forgive your enemies ; nothing annoys them so much. Oscar Wilde " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoncurMacdonaldMercer Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 18 minutes ago, King prawn said: Kay Burley is a nasty piece of work. No attempt to get real answers, just to make whoever it is she’s talking to look stupid. Sometimes that’s justified, others it’s just cringeworthy. correct - the odd time she’s ‘successful’ she then gets all hyper like a child I thought her main job was to get information on behalf of the public - her ridiculous style/method greatly reduces the chance of that happening - the more experienced interviewees know exactly what’s going on and just blank her with generic (non) answers the person who interviewed leitch was excellent in comparison as mentioned by a few folk on here - got real info from real persistent questioning Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SE16 3LN Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Robbofan99 said: She’s not doing As well as you think mate but carry on with your love fest with her 👍 I wonder what Jacinda thinks when she looks at that. Worst recession since 1987 at her own admission. I suppose if she hadn't been so tough... Edited September 23, 2020 by SE16 3LN Cock up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Gin Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 https://metro.co.uk/2020/09/22/extreme-covid-denier-politician-who-dismissed-virus-as-socialist-hoax-is-killed-by-it-13308465/ Extreme Covid-denier politician who dismissed virus as ‘socialist’ hoax is killed by it "A conspiracy theorist politician who branded coronavirus a hoax and claimed it was part of a ‘socialist agenda’ has been killed by Covid-19. Former Nashville councilor Tony Tenpenny, 57, died of the virus over the weekend, after spending months branding it an overblown fabrication." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Potter Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 37 minutes ago, King prawn said: Kay Burley is a nasty piece of work. No attempt to get real answers, just to make whoever it is she’s talking to look stupid. Sometimes that’s justified, others it’s just cringeworthy. Noticed that recently about her bud, never smiles, deffo something not right with her. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo 4 Ever Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 2 hours ago, Seymour M Hersh said: Do you take seasonal flu this "seriously"? Yes but this is more serious as there is no vaccine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo 4 Ever Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 50 minutes ago, The Frenchman Returns said: Asking for a friend - took this off the latest SG guidance Inside people’s homes (from tomorrow, Wednesday 23 2020) Do not meet people from any other households in your home or another person’s home socially, unless they are in your extended household These rules also apply to children Children whose parents do not live in the same household can move between homes, as can non-cohabiting couples Very limited exemptions apply for childcare, and for tradespeople she is a hairdresser, so thats her trade and does a lot of her work doing home visits as it suits her lifestyle as she has 2 young kids. She cannot do her work from home, unless her customer was able to visit her, which is now banned. is a mobile hairdresser classed as a tradesperson? If it’s not a social visit too then should be ok and remembers to wear facemasks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo 4 Ever Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 2 hours ago, Shooter McGavin said: I think people are beginning to think life with restrictions or another lockdown is more damaging than just letting the virus run it’s course. It’s clear it isn’t as deadly as once thought, in fact it is significantly less fatal than you’d have believed back in January, February & March. It’s constantly compared to the flu, and as someone with zero background in medical science I really can’t comment on whether that’s a fair comparison, but the overall impression is that it is like the flu in that a vaccine isn’t necessarily the answer and it just needs to run it’s course. Not true It is serious and Is still the same deadly virus it was back in May you MUST follow the rules and guidelines. No question about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riddley Walker Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 41 minutes ago, SE16 3LN said: Come on, you came out swinging yesterday calling people childish names if they didn't disagree with you. Its OK though, Always forgive your enemies ; nothing annoys them so much. Oscar Wilde " Look back over our messages and see who became an arsehole first. Thank you for your forgiveness, postcode man. Hugs and kisses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo 4 Ever Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 2 minutes ago, jonesy said: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_bot Eh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Internet Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 22 minutes ago, Ray Gin said: https://metro.co.uk/2020/09/22/extreme-covid-denier-politician-who-dismissed-virus-as-socialist-hoax-is-killed-by-it-13308465/ Extreme Covid-denier politician who dismissed virus as ‘socialist’ hoax is killed by it "A conspiracy theorist politician who branded coronavirus a hoax and claimed it was part of a ‘socialist agenda’ has been killed by Covid-19. Former Nashville councilor Tony Tenpenny, 57, died of the virus over the weekend, after spending months branding it an overblown fabrication." I mean, even ignoring his views on covid, that's the kind of person that gets into positions of power in America. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enzo Chiefo Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 1 hour ago, Robbofan99 said: Here’s some rare Coronavirus good news... The fraction of cases resulting in deaths from COVID-19 keeps falling in Europe. Down to just over 1% in September. March - 6.6 April - 10.7 May - 6.3 June - 3.1 July - 2.2 Aug - 1.2 Sep - 1.1 I'm sure the BBC will focus on this good news on the 6pm news. More likely they'll be visiting yet another ICU ward from anywhere in the world..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo 4 Ever Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 2 hours ago, Robbofan99 said: Does she ever take. Day off ? Seriously ? And the use of “ I “ when talking about Govt decisions related to restrictions is so grating ! She’s now like Trump where no one in her party seems to want to challenge her decisions . The regulations should be a shared responsibility and accountability from all in her party . She’s acting like a dictator . Scarey stuff . She’s almost manic now She talks a lot of sense Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo 4 Ever Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 1 minute ago, jonesy said: I'll just leave this here. It’s the same virus mate stop trying to downplay the seriousness of it. Very irresponsible Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riddley Walker Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 Just now, Jambo 4 Ever said: It’s the same virus mate stop trying to downplay the seriousness of it. Very irresponsible Please stop posting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo 4 Ever Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Riddley Walker said: Please stop posting. Um no thanks lives depend on the message getting across Edited September 23, 2020 by Jambo 4 Ever Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Internet Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 Spread the good word my man, ignore the h8rz. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo 4 Ever Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 1 minute ago, jonesy said: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_bot I'll just post this again. If you can get away with posting the same repetitive guff for months on end, then so can I So you don’t think this is serious? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riddley Walker Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 4 minutes ago, Jambo 4 Ever said: Um no thanks lives depend on the message getting across No offence, but you're an awful motivational speaker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo 4 Ever Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 2 minutes ago, Mauricio Pinilla said: Spread the good word my man, ignore the h8rz. We need more of the spreading of the serious message and people following the rules Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo 4 Ever Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 4 minutes ago, jonesy said: Dear https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_bot In the grand scheme of things, no, not really. Well you are wrong mate and it’s very important no else thinks this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo 4 Ever Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 8 minutes ago, Riddley Walker said: No offence, but you're an awful motivational speaker. Not trying to be a “motivational speaker” im making sure the important message is getting across and no one is encouraging others to not follow the rules Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheetah Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 14 minutes ago, Jambo 4 Ever said: Um no thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DB-14 Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 2 minutes ago, jonesy said: The quoted message above was posted by: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_bot You can't control how people think, thankfully. Guy is just a freak and best ignored. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo 4 Ever Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 7 minutes ago, jonesy said: The quoted message above was posted by: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_bot You can't control how people think, thankfully. Can still repeat the important messages - just as Nicola & Jason are doing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Costanza Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 11 minutes ago, jonesy said: Dear https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_bot In the grand scheme of things, no, not really. In terms of death rates, are these impacted by viral load? i.e. as we have reduced our exposure to each other, the strain of covid infection a person is getting is weaker? Lockdown will have helped that but there is an argument of course on lockdown being used again and how we can continue that. Also, I have banged on about this a few times but we need to stop looking at Covid in binary survival and death terms. Long Covid is something that has to be factored into the public health decisions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo 4 Ever Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 4 minutes ago, Costanza said: In terms of death rates, are these impacted by viral load? i.e. as we have reduced our exposure to each other, the strain of covid infection a person is getting is weaker? Lockdown will have helped that but there is an argument of course on lockdown being used again and how we can continue that. Also, I have banged on about this a few times but we need to stop looking at Covid in binary survival and death terms. Long Covid is something that has to be factored into the public health decisions. Very true and thanks for the support in this. it is taking some people months to recover from this nasty virus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo 4 Ever Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 18 minutes ago, cheetah said: Weird comment Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmfcbilly Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Jambo 4 Ever said: Very true and thanks for the support in this. it is taking some people months to recover from this nasty virus. Some folk never recover from cancer, heart disease or any other life threatening illnesses. Where do the infected/death rates on those compare with covid? Im not saying that covid isn't real and extremely nasty, possibly life threatening for some people. However the percentages would appear extremely small in comparison to the more established diseases I mentioned and we have never shut down ecomies and seriously threatened peoples mental health and livelihoods for them. Its about time some proper facts and figures were published on where Covid is in comparison to other diseases and I don't mean Jason Leitch's FACTS....I would like to see some hard hitting numbers for comparison. Edited September 23, 2020 by hmfcbilly Amended post Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheetah Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 1 minute ago, Jambo 4 Ever said: Weird comment Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XB52 Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 56 minutes ago, jonesy said: Indeed. I hope Ms Sturgeon doesn't die in such in a lonely, painful, fearful manner separated from her loved ones, should she have any. She needs all the soap in Scotland to wash the blood off her scarlet-stained hands. You win the prize for most idiotic post of the year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo 4 Ever Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 1 minute ago, XB52 said: You win the prize for most idiotic post of the year This Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manaliveits105 Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 2 hours ago, Robbofan99 said: A ray of hope https://nypost.com/2020/09/22/japanese-firm-develops-first-uv-lamp-that-safely-kills-coronavirus/ The thickos stocking up on toilet roll will all look like oompah loompahs soon after binging on sun bed studios Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam_the_legend Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 2 hours ago, LMc said: It's a different test. That’s fine but my point stands re Jason Leitch comments about the PCR test. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Maroonblood Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 3 hours ago, CavySlaveJambo said: Day 1 of Lockdown. https://www.gov.scot/news/effective-lockdown-to-be-introduced/ Also if you look at the restrictions that a currently in place it also says SOCIAL visits. So basically the same as the beginning of Covid-19. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howdy Doody Jambo Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 (edited) Just noticing these private hire cars like uber, they aren't exactly user friendly during Covid-19 times are they? The turnover of bodies in a confined space, low height vehicles with punters sitting next to the driver for 20/30 minutes at a time, just weird how they can legally operate yet you're not allowed to visit your auld maw for a cuppa unless it's ootside Bonkers Edited September 23, 2020 by Ma Roon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucky Thompson Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 6178 new positive cases in the UK 37 deaths Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graygo Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 4 minutes ago, Ma Roon said: Just noticing these private hire cars like uber, they aren't exactly user friendly during Covid-19 times are they? The turnover of bodies in a confined space, low height vehicles with punters sitting next to the driver for 20/30 minutes at a time, just weird how they can legally operate yet you're not allowed to visit your auld maw for a cuppa unless it's ootside Bonkers Surprised at that, in Poland you can request on the Uber app a taxi that has a screen between you and the driver. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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