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10 minutes ago, jack D and coke said:

Almost as embarrassing as flying a spitfire over the cities to say cheers. Britain is full of ****wits. Brainwashed ****ing headcases.  


Agree but I suspect that’s still being done because we still have a few old folks who were active in the war. 
 

Hopefully it gets toned down massively once they’re all dead. 
 

Celebrating mass murder from 80 years ago isn’t a good look in the 21st century, despite the circumstances at the time. 

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jack D and coke
6 minutes ago, BarneyBattles said:


Agree but I suspect that’s still being done because we still have a few old folks who were active in the war. 
 

Hopefully it gets toned down massively once they’re all dead. 
 

Celebrating mass murder from 80 years ago isn’t a good look in the 21st century, despite the circumstances at the time. 

It’s not. They have literally nothing else to give us these days other than look we won the war. Don’t get me wrong I’d never denigrate those men and women or the memory but to try palm the health workers off with that shite is embarrassing. But we lap it up. 
The clapping? :lol: 

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1 minute ago, Adam_the_legend said:


Is it though? People can still spend hours getting pissed together they just head home a bit earlier. Instead of spending 6 hours in the pub you spend 4 hours. Surely if you have Covid that’s plenty of time to spread to everyone in the pub? 

Pubs and restaurants are not the problem. Only 2 households can mix, you have to wear a mask on the floor and it's table service. The existing rules, if obeyed and enforced, are perfectly safe. That's my experience from the ones I go to. If some places are not observing that we need to ramp up enforcement.  The problem is crowds of youngsters mingling in house parties, beaches and raves. If everyone else is observing the rules and being careful then eventually cases will drop imo.

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2 hours ago, SteauaNeedarest said:


Where did I say there were leaders in the field on this forum?

 

I’d say Prof Sikora and Prof Heneghan infinitely more knowledgeable than you and they disagree with the Gov strategy...

 

https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/boris-needs-to-rethink-his-covid-strategy

Heneghan I find informative and it would be interesting to see him and SAGE discussing policy and the numbers as clearly there is a difference in view.

 

Sikora I wouldn't touch with a bargepole.

Has links to the shady Tufton St "think tanks" who want to deregulate Britain and profiteer, with the NHS being one such market they want to financially exploit.

 

http://www.pharmafile.com/news/pharmafocus-interview-karol-sikora-doctors-reform

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6 minutes ago, Enzo Chiefo said:

Pubs and restaurants are not the problem. Only 2 households can mix, you have to wear a mask on the floor and it's table service. The existing rules, if obeyed and enforced, are perfectly safe. That's my experience from the ones I go to. If some places are not observing that we need to ramp up enforcement.  The problem is crowds of youngsters mingling in house parties, beaches and raves. If everyone else is observing the rules and being careful then eventually cases will drop imo.


I agree. My ultimate point was this seems like a pointless restriction and has been done so the government appear to be doing something rather than a belief it will make a substantial difference to infections. The constant knee jerk policy changes are crazy.

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2 hours ago, JFK-1 said:

 

Yes, you go right ahead with your non educated disputation of a complex science you know less about than I do about pretty much anything. That makes prefect sense doesn't it.

Logical. Let's listen to every Tom Dick and non entity on all scientific subjects. Logical. 

Ok mr logic 😂😂😂😂

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9 minutes ago, Adam_the_legend said:


I agree. My ultimate point was this seems like a pointless restriction and has been done so the government appear to be doing something rather than a belief it will make a substantial difference to infections. The constant knee jerk policy changes are crazy.

Yes, I totally agree. The rule of 6 hasn't even had time to take effect and they are already introducing more changes.

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A quarter of Wales has been put in lockdown, England set to fine pubs £1k for not keeping tables 2m apart, and no visiting other people's homes in Northern Ireland. Worth bearing in mind before the inevitable posts tomorrow about Sturgeon going power crazy and political posturing. 

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17 minutes ago, 1874robbo said:

Ok mr logic 😂😂😂😂

 

Yes indeed, 3 words 4 smileys are a killer blow. They destroy all logic. Now you really are proven to be a credible opposition to the stupid scientists.

 

Aside from your status as a pseudo expert worthy of any credible opinion in this science let me offer another 'opinion'

 

You're one of these people who aside from being upset that anyone would point out your obvious and 100% lack of expertise, are also one of these people who even when there's nothing rational left to say  still want to say something. Anything. Last wordism.

 

Talking while saying nothing. The final refuge of countless non educated pseudo experts in all fields. If I just say something else, no matter how empty of any actual content. I'm the winner. An expert with credible advice. Fortunately that's not the way science works but you go right ahead.

 

Demonstrate your credibility. Dazzle one and all with such a sparkling display of learned logical verbosity that all will clearly see your genius. In comparison to the stupidity of me and all those scientists.

 

Be my guest.  Humble the entire scientific community with smileys. Make it 6 this time. That's even more credible than 4.

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4 hours ago, JFK-1 said:

So the government is now increasing the alert level to level 4 which means transmission is "high or rising exponentially". The scientists are predicting a potential 50,000 new cases a day by mid October without further action.

Think about the pressure on the NHS of that before whining about mental health and cancelled surgeries. This is a war against an invisible enemy that isn't going to be won anytime soon.

 

that 50000 per day scenario was delivered in the knowledge that most of the population have very little understanding of maths

 

he did specifically say it wasn’t a prediction tho (probably to cover himself with those that do)

 

seems to have worked 

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5 hours ago, Enzo Chiefo said:

Pubs and restaurants are not the problem. Only 2 households can mix, you have to wear a mask on the floor and it's table service. The existing rules, if obeyed and enforced, are perfectly safe. That's my experience from the ones I go to. If some places are not observing that we need to ramp up enforcement.  The problem is crowds of youngsters mingling in house parties, beaches and raves. If everyone else is observing the rules and being careful then eventually cases will drop imo.

:spoton:

The young Scaffolder on my site bragging about 20 of his mates hiring cabins every weekend. And then walking about as if it's nothing when the ground worker gaffer showed him a facepalm. The 20 somethings(They really are a bit Dolly, these days) should be locked up for 2 weeks. Sorted! 

 

Other news... America and China are the only 2 twits not to agree to share a proven vaccine world wide. 

 

 

Oh, a wee message for The PM. 

 

Shut the Borders for 2 weeks, no one in, no one out. 

 

AND A MESSAGE FOR THE FM. 

Shut the gyms, pubs, restaurants etc... for a one week, and bring the October break for schools forward to the start of October, this will save you shutting the schools for any longer than needed if full lock down comes. 

 

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22 minutes ago, ri Alban said:

Other news... America and China are the only 2 twits not to agree to share a proven vaccine world wide. 

 

Hopefully the Oxford vaccine proves to be the first proven effective and safe vaccine. Make it available to everybody but the US and China. Not to be spiteful. Simply to keep them happy in their "America first" mentality. Don't want to be upsetting them with a "nasty" foreign vaccine.

Though make it available to me.

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Just now, JFK-1 said:

 

Hopefully the Oxford vaccine proves to be the first proven effective and safe vaccine. Make it available to everybody but the US and China. Not to be spiteful. Simply to keep them happy in their "America first" mentality. Don't want to be upsetting them with a "nasty" foreign vaccine.

Though make it available to me.

You can have mine 👍. I'll wait til it's not burned everyones eyes out first. 

 

No, I'm not anti vaccine person, just not for putting any concoction in me after under one year's hurried experimentation, bud. 

 

Shelley would be like :wtf:

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Mauricio Pinilla

Yeah there's a vast difference between being skeptical of a rushed covid vaccine and being a full on anti-vax nutjob. Personally I would take it if it meant getting back to normal quicker but can definitely understand why some would be hesitant. 

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Curfew in England of 10pm for pubs, bars etc. I would expect we will similar announced in Scotland today, 

 

Cant imagine it will be all that effective. The same issues surely occur just in a reduced timescales, whilst at the same time making even more hospitality venues economically less viable. 

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28 minutes ago, Lord BJ said:

Curfew in England of 10pm for pubs, bars etc. I would expect we will similar announced in Scotland today, 

 

Cant imagine it will be all that effective. The same issues surely occur just in a reduced timescales, whilst at the same time making even more hospitality venues economically less viable. 

Old Sunday pub times would help. 

On a wee side, when are Scots gonnae stop using drink to get absolutely blootered, time we got a grib and learned to socialise with a bit of intelligence. We're killing ourselves. 

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3 minutes ago, ri Alban said:

Old Sunday pub times would help. 

On a wee side, when are Scots gonnae stop using drink to get absolutely blootered, time we got a grib and learned to socialise with a bit of intelligence. We're killing ourselves. 


Us Scots, myself included, don’t have a healthiest relationship with booze. 
 

They can shut the pubs for all I care. They better not shut the gyms though. 

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Just now, Lord BJ said:


Us Scots, myself included, don’t have a healthiest relationship with booze. 
 

They can shut the pubs for all I care. They better not shut the gyms though. 

How's your training, Good? 

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20 minutes ago, Lord BJ said:


Us Scots, myself included, don’t have a healthiest relationship with booze. 
 

They can shut the pubs for all I care. They better not shut the gyms though. 

Or the golf course 👍

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10 hours ago, Enzo Chiefo said:

Italy rolling along quite well now. Even with 2k cases a day, cruise ships are again leaving ports,  1k fans will be allowed into Serie A games this month, they are utilising 90 min tests at schools and airports and lockdown is over. Compulsory mask wearing after 6pm outdoors is generally observed and, more importantly,  enforced.

Perhaps the way the virus hit them initially has led to their population understanding what they need to do to stay safe.

10 hours ago, Enzo Chiefo said:

I think the worst that happen will be that pubs have to close at 10pm. Closing restaurants and pubs that are, in the main, perfectly safe, disciplined and well policed, having spent a lot of time, money and effort making themselves so.....would be an act of lunacy and economic destruction. 

100% agree.

Conversely the venues that aren't well policed and disciplined should be shut down. Permanently. 

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19 minutes ago, ri Alban said:

How's your training, Good? 


Really good. Motivation and diet is tip top and just loving in it. Almost back to where I was before lockdown and have began setting some personal bests again next week. 
 

Just getting ready to head out and get the shoulders done today. Overhead presses here o come. 😀

 

You back yet? 

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28 minutes ago, Lord BJ said:


Us Scots, myself included, don’t have a healthiest relationship with booze. 
 

They can shut the pubs for all I care. They better not shut the gyms though. 

 

I adapted and got through lockdown well with a kettlebell and a sandbag but since reopening and having to book the gym slots I've found a consistency I'd never had before. I'll be gutted if they shut gyms.

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7 minutes ago, The Mighty Thor said:

Or the golf course 👍


The biggest risk on a golf course to your health is a ball hitting you  or your blood pressure if; your having a bad day, 

 

Gove say govt not encouraging people to go back to work now. I feel dizzy with all these about turns 

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3 minutes ago, Lord BJ said:


The biggest risk on a golf course to your health is a ball hitting you  or your blood pressure if; your having a bad day, 

 

Gove say govt not encouraging people to go back to work now. I feel dizzy with all these about turns 

The golf course is my happy place. My mental health would be in tatters if it was shut again. 

 

The advice has been contradictory from the get go. Its almost like they're busking it. 

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2 minutes ago, The Mighty Thor said:

The golf course is my happy place. My mental health would be in tatters if it was shut again. 

 

The advice has been contradictory from the get go. Its almost like they're busking it. 

I don't see them closing golf courses, maybe clubhouses will close, but not the course. 

 

I don't think we will see any measure that are much stricter than they are now, I could very easily be wrong though.

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53 minutes ago, ri Alban said:

And get your flu jab, folks, if your eligible. Flu and Covid, Feck that. 

 

I got a flu jab last October/November but didn't stop me getting one of the worst viruses I can remember in February.

 

My company usually does Flu Jabs on site but obviously very few people are in the office so don't know if they will give us vouchers to book something at a chemist.

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31 minutes ago, The Mighty Thor said:

Perhaps the way the virus hit them initially has led to their population understanding what they need to do to stay safe.

100% agree.

Conversely the venues that aren't well policed and disciplined should be shut down. Permanently. 

Yes, very good points TMT.  Completely agree.

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9 hours ago, Enzo Chiefo said:

Pubs and restaurants are not the problem. Only 2 households can mix, you have to wear a mask on the floor and it's table service. The existing rules, if obeyed and enforced, are perfectly safe. That's my experience from the ones I go to. If some places are not observing that we need to ramp up enforcement.  The problem is crowds of youngsters mingling in house parties, beaches and raves. If everyone else is observing the rules and being careful then eventually cases will drop imo.

 

Govt would be tugging themselves silly reading this post and realising the plan to scapegoat young people is working a treat. The idea that everyone is observing all the rules perfectly except those pesky yoofs :lol:

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8 hours ago, Ray Gin said:

A quarter of Wales has been put in lockdown, England set to fine pubs £1k for not keeping tables 2m apart, and no visiting other people's homes in Northern Ireland. Worth bearing in mind before the inevitable posts tomorrow about Sturgeon going power crazy and political posturing. 

 

They're all clowns. But it's NS's approach that has the biggest effect on most of us on here.

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Riddley Walker

Sturgeon really needs to stop listening to her advisors and scientists and following the lead of almost every country in the world, and do what some folk on the internet say.

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9 hours ago, jack D and coke said:

Almost as embarrassing as flying a spitfire over the cities to say cheers. Britain is full of ****wits. Brainwashed ****ing headcases.  

 

The spitfire was pretty cool tbf.

I've never seen one in flight with my own eyes so it was good to get the chance.

It was a perfect morning for it too.

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Just now, Governor Tarkin said:

 

The spitfire was pretty cool tbf.

I've never seen one in flight with my own eyes so it was good to get the chance.

It was a perfect morning for it too.

They are cool and I’d had a few last night😋

The sentiment behind it however is a load of nonsense. 

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1 minute ago, jack D and coke said:

Hitlers everywhere these days. Shut this, shut that, do this, do that, take your flu jab, do what your told, get the polis...****ing nora...

 

Yeah, Hitler was well known for his empathetic, protective attitude towards the frail, vulnerable and handicapped. 

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13 minutes ago, Mauricio Pinilla said:

Be good to know how many hitler references have been made throughout the thread. 

88?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

:look:

 

 

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3 hours ago, ri Alban said:

You can have mine 👍. I'll wait til it's not burned everyones eyes out first. 

 

No, I'm not anti vaccine person, just not for putting any concoction in me after under one year's hurried experimentation, bud. 

 

Shelley would be like :wtf:


Pretty much where I am at. I won’t be rushing to put a vaccine in me until I see that it isn’t deforming folk first. 

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24 minutes ago, Mauricio Pinilla said:

 

Govt would be tugging themselves silly reading this post and realising the plan to scapegoat young people is working a treat. The idea that everyone is observing all the rules perfectly except those pesky yoofs :lol:

 

Probably having house parties while working from home. Lazy twits that they are....

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3 minutes ago, AlimOzturk said:


Pretty much where I am at. I won’t be rushing to put a vaccine in me until I see that it isn’t deforming folk first. 

 

It can't be any worse than that stuff that the youngsters pass off as cocaine these days tbf.

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