AlphonseCapone Posted February 23, 2020 Share Posted February 23, 2020 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Jambo-Jimbo said: Think another 2 died in Iran yesterday, making it 5 or 6 in the last week or so, cases in several Iranian cities seemingly. Hearing that Austria has stopped a train at it's border with Italy because of 2 suspected cases on board, train was enroute from Venice to Munich. Aye BBC reporting about the train heading to Austria. Edited February 23, 2020 by AlphonseCapone Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AlphonseCapone Posted February 23, 2020 Share Posted February 23, 2020 Just done a bit of reading on the WHO website about their different phase categories etc and would be surprised if this isn't classified as a pandemic at some point this week. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tazio Posted February 23, 2020 Share Posted February 23, 2020 Good to see the lunatics at PETA have a balanced view. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NANOJAMBO Posted February 23, 2020 Share Posted February 23, 2020 3 hours ago, toonland said: Gutted with the news about Italy, meant to be going to milan on 23rd March for a day then onto Venice for 2 days and 3 days in Rome. Been buzzing for months, me and mrs no idea what to do, checked the government website not much advice. Still got 5 weeks so hoping things calm down Dont panic yet. The affected towns in Lombardy are all closed off. You'll know well before you travel if its spread. Rome is a long way from Milan so may not be affected. I will check with my daughter as she flew out of Rome tonight so i dont know if anyone's being screened down here. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AlphonseCapone Posted February 23, 2020 Share Posted February 23, 2020 18 minutes ago, Tazio said: Good to see the lunatics at PETA have a balanced view. The level of intellect I expect from that mob. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dawnrazor Posted February 23, 2020 Share Posted February 23, 2020 4 minutes ago, AlphonseCapone said: The level of intellect I expect from that mob. 100%👍 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jambo-Jimbo Posted February 23, 2020 Share Posted February 23, 2020 Just reported on Sky News that there are now over 150 cases now in Italy and that Venice has closed all museums and the carnival has been cut short. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jambo, Goodbye Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 9 hours ago, Pohang Jambo said: Interesting to hear what’s going on in Daegu. I lived close by in Pohang for 3 years, but I’m now based in Hong Kong. People here are cautious but it seems to be hitting Korea worse just now 😔 I don't know which news story I'd rather be in amongst. Daegu or Hong Kong 😐 Hope you're keeping yourself safe over there! I love HK but not likely to visit again 😞 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mauricio Pinilla Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 8 hours ago, Tazio said: Good to see the lunatics at PETA have a balanced view. Impressive how a charity apparently dedicated to protecting animals can make themselves such a hated joke. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ToadKiller Dog Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 12 hours ago, Jambo-Jimbo said: Just reported on Sky News that there are now over 150 cases now in Italy and that Venice has closed all museums and the carnival has been cut short. Yeah basically 50,000 people in lock down in parts of north italy ,nobody allowed out and nobody allowed in. I'm guessing anybody who has been to north italy and surrounds ,now should also follow the advice for travellers who have visited Asian listed nations ,same for Iran. Looks like it may well become a pandemic, hopefully people remain sensible . Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jambo-Jimbo Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 11 minutes ago, ToadKiller Dog said: Yeah basically 50,000 people in lock down in parts of north italy ,nobody allowed out and nobody allowed in. I'm guessing anybody who has been to north italy and surrounds ,now should also follow the advice for travellers who have visited Asian listed nations ,same for Iran. Looks like it may well become a pandemic, hopefully people remain sensible . Now 5 dead in Italy from the virus, you have to remember a week ago there were a handful of cases now over 200+ I'm sure I heard them say on the TV. A global pandemic seems more and more likely to be declared with each passing day. People will panic as they always do I'm afraid, just look at the reaction of folks when we get a wee bit of snow here, the shelves are cleared of milk & bread etc etc etc, so I dread to think what will happen if/when Covid-19 strikes here in any large numbers. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
milky_26 Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 A guy I work with was due to go on holiday to New Zealand this week with his flight going through China. So he and his girlfriend cancelled due to having by leave they booked for you guessed it Italy. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Seymour M Hersh Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 On 15/02/2020 at 00:39, Zlatanable said: This virus. What's it saying? The SNP are finished? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
OmiyaHearts Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 On 23/02/2020 at 03:05, Zlatanable said: So, what are your thoughts on this now? I'm still travelling to Japan for three weeks on on 27th April. I fully expect to be allowed to do so and will have a rare time, as always. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ribble Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 2 hours ago, Jambo-Jimbo said: Now 5 dead in Italy from the virus, you have to remember a week ago there were a handful of cases now over 200+ I'm sure I heard them say on the TV. A global pandemic seems more and more likely to be declared with each passing day. People will panic as they always do I'm afraid, just look at the reaction of folks when we get a wee bit of snow here, the shelves are cleared of milk & bread etc etc etc, so I dread to think what will happen if/when Covid-19 strikes here in any large numbers. Our Italian HQ in Milan has been closed to all but key staff over the weekend with temperature scanners setup for those that do have to be in the building. Also my 3 day jolly to paris for a conference next month has been vetoed as all staff travel has been suspended indefinitely. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NANOJAMBO Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 3 hours ago, ToadKiller Dog said: Yeah basically 50,000 people in lock down in parts of north italy ,nobody allowed out and nobody allowed in. I'm guessing anybody who has been to north italy and surrounds ,now should also follow the advice for travellers who have visited Asian listed nations ,same for Iran. Looks like it may well become a pandemic, hopefully people remain sensible . Just arrived in Florence today from Rome. a lot more people wearing face masks around here , mainly tourists , locals dont seem bothered. As of yesterday there was 6 deaths , I havent seen anything that changes that. News mentioned 89 cases ....in total , I think. everyone more concerned about train service which is a total shambles today. Severe delays on north nound trains to Milan. Poor Milan. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lord BJ Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 Financial markets going mental off the back of the Coronavirus, today. Outside the immediate health concerns there are going to be consequences to this. Asia and Europe look like they’re going to hit on economic front reduction in growth. Companies supply chains breaking and we will see that start impacting individual companies, profitability , confidence etc etc. Hopefully, they get this under control and contained but it does seem to be spreading and you would imagine its about to officially become a pandemic very soon. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Frenchman Returns Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 Inter Milan v Ludogrets in Europa League expected to be behind closed doors Which seems to scupper one avenue for us to avoid relegation Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jambo-Jimbo Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 2 hours ago, Lord BJ said: Financial markets going mental off the back of the Coronavirus, today. Outside the immediate health concerns there are going to be consequences to this. Asia and Europe look like they’re going to hit on economic front reduction in growth. Companies supply chains breaking and we will see that start impacting individual companies, profitability , confidence etc etc. Hopefully, they get this under control and contained but it does seem to be spreading and you would imagine its about to officially become a pandemic very soon. Unsurprisingly the biggest fallers being airlines & holiday company's, and at the same time as the markets are falling, there has been an upsurge in investors putting their money into Gold, the US dollar & the Swiss Franc, the usual safe havens during turbulent times. Jaguar Land Rover said last week that their supply line of parts from China was being affected, as are many other companies who are in the same boat, speaking of which, up to last week Maersk alone had cancelled 50 bulk container ship consignments from China, that is one hell of a lot of products not now coming from China, and that's just one shipping line, the longer this goes and if it keeps spreading the more jittery the markets will become. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NANOJAMBO Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 10 minutes ago, Jambo-Jimbo said: Unsurprisingly the biggest fallers being airlines & holiday company's, and at the same time as the markets are falling, there has been an upsurge in investors putting their money into Gold, the US dollar & the Swiss Franc, the usual safe havens during turbulent times. Jaguar Land Rover said last week that their supply line of parts from China was being affected, as are many other companies who are in the same boat, speaking of which, up to last week Maersk alone had cancelled 50 bulk container ship consignments from China, that is one hell of a lot of products not now coming from China, and that's just one shipping line, the longer this goes and if it keeps spreading the more jittery the markets will become. The city at the centre of this is the hub for car parts manufacture for a number of companies. Im sure I've seen Fiat & Peugeot mentioned Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JamboSpur Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 (edited) Anyone else feeling anxious about this, it’s a bit worrying. Horrific what’s happening to the people of China with regards to authorities dealing with the infected. Edited February 24, 2020 by JamboSpur Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Boab Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 22 hours ago, Tazio said: Good to see the lunatics at PETA have a balanced view. May not fit into PETA’s view of things but if I see a bat, i’m hitting it with a spade. Caused all this, that and horrendous sanitation....and eating bats...and mad anteaters ! Fingers should be pointed ! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AlphonseCapone Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 56 minutes ago, JamboSpur said: Anyone else feeling anxious about this, it’s a bit worrying. Horrific what’s happening to the people of China with regards to authorities dealing with the infected. Assuming you're in the UK, there's currently nothing to really worry about. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jambo-Jimbo Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 1 hour ago, JamboSpur said: Anyone else feeling anxious about this, it’s a bit worrying. Horrific what’s happening to the people of China with regards to authorities dealing with the infected. What do you mean by how the authorities are dealing with the infected? As for being worried, no, maybe once it's here in the UK and in the town where I live then I might start to become concerned, but until then, no worries. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JamboSpur Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 It’s spreading like wildfire. Check out Twitter for some Coronavirus truths from China, pretty grim. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cade Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 30 minutes ago, JamboSpur said: It’s spreading like wildfire. Check out Twitter for some Coronavirus truths from China, pretty grim. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
milky_26 Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 Just now, Cade said: yep just like the young aussie dwarf boy who on twitter was claimed to be an adult on the con Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dusk_Till_Dawn Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 How many folk die of flu each year? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Boab Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 4 minutes ago, Dusk_Till_Dawn said: How many folk die of flu each year? 650,000 ! Keep panic buying though, folks ! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dusk_Till_Dawn Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 11 minutes ago, Boab said: 650,000 ! Keep panic buying though, folks ! Daily Mail acting like bellends again. ‘Virus could kill 80m’. The Daily Mail deserves to contract Ebola Quote Link to post Share on other sites
luckyBatistuta Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 2 hours ago, JamboSpur said: Anyone else feeling anxious about this, it’s a bit worrying. Horrific what’s happening to the people of China with regards to authorities dealing with the infected. I try not to, but do worry about it spreading here, as my parents both have chest problems already Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Boab Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 7 minutes ago, Dusk_Till_Dawn said: Daily Mail acting like bellends again. ‘Virus could kill 80m’. The Daily Mail deserves to contract Ebola It is effective though. The media exposure that is. That doesn’t include that comic though ! An experiment in public control. Every now and again they need to sharpen up tactics. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Frenchman Returns Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 36 minutes ago, Boab said: 650,000 ! Keep panic buying though, folks ! This is what I do not get, if its just another strain of flu, why are they getting so bleeding worried about it? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AlphonseCapone Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 29 minutes ago, The Frenchman Returns said: This is what I do not get, if its just another strain of flu, why are they getting so bleeding worried about it? Because it's novel. The flu, though different strains can present in different years, we understand the general make-up of the virus and can attempt to predict what flu vaccine might be most useful in a given year (doesn't always work though). But for this, we don't yet fully understand how contingious it really is or have a vaccine. It's not going to wipe out humanity and a vaccine will likely come. It's simply fear of the unknown. Something is going to come along and kill millions upon millions of people at some point. But this isn't it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mac_fae_Gillie Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 4 hours ago, AlphonseCapone said: Because it's novel. The flu, though different strains can present in different years, we understand the general make-up of the virus and can attempt to predict what flu vaccine might be most useful in a given year (doesn't always work though). But for this, we don't yet fully understand how contingious it really is or have a vaccine. It's not going to wipe out humanity and a vaccine will likely come. It's simply fear of the unknown. Something is going to come along and kill millions upon millions of people at some point. But this isn't it. Its killing 1 in 50 of those infected vast majority of whom are 75+ and/or had previous health issues so hardly much more threat than present bugs that go around every winter. Add to the fact people are living longer and are in a poorer state of health at the older age with things like heart issues/dementia there are going to be a constant flow of new viruses that have pardon my term "a large victim pool" to pick from. Still a worry though as we all no doubt have parents and grandparents that this virus will be a real danger too. My mum is entering 3rd stage dementia which is a vile disease in itself thx to the long drawn out suffering and how it takes from its victims so cruelly, if this bug spreads into UK fully I would have to go stay with her to police her actions, do the shopping etc and without me been sick how will such things be seen by employers as a requirement to take maybe months off is needed. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gjcc Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 On 23/02/2020 at 21:37, Tazio said: Good to see the lunatics at PETA have a balanced view. PETA is an anagram of Pâté. The plot thickens. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mauricio Pinilla Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 7 hours ago, The Frenchman Returns said: This is what I do not get, if its just another strain of flu, why are they getting so bleeding worried about it? Have you mentioned this to the scientists working round the clock to find a cure? They might be interested in your findings. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lord BJ Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 I’m not concerned about me or mine getting CV. However, I am a bit concerned about the wider consequences. of CV. Financial markets going mental, economic downturn, potential travel restrictions, shortages of foods/goods, general panic etc etc. In the U.K.we are developed country and should be able to contain/treat without too much problems. The wider consequences I think will hit the U.K. harder than the actual virus itself. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Barack Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 'Mon then Corona..... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Boab Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 56 minutes ago, Lord BJ said: I’m not concerned about me or mine getting CV. However, I am a bit concerned about the wider consequences. of CV. Financial markets going mental, economic downturn, potential travel restrictions, shortages of foods/goods, general panic etc etc. In the U.K.we are developed country and should be able to contain/treat without too much problems. The wider consequences I think will hit the U.K. harder than the actual virus itself. Gold and US bonds are up ! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jambo-Jimbo Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 9 hours ago, AlphonseCapone said: Because it's novel. The flu, though different strains can present in different years, we understand the general make-up of the virus and can attempt to predict what flu vaccine might be most useful in a given year (doesn't always work though). But for this, we don't yet fully understand how contingious it really is or have a vaccine. It's not going to wipe out humanity and a vaccine will likely come. It's simply fear of the unknown. Something is going to come along and kill millions upon millions of people at some point. But this isn't it. Absolutely, it's the fear of the unknown which panics people, often without any real justification. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
OmiyaHearts Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 J League will be announcing postponement of all football fixtures until around the end of March. Better get this sorted by end of April, or my trip will be a tad more boring. That's if my flights aren't cancelled as well 😄 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jambo-Jimbo Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 Latest advice from UK Chief Medical Officer & the Foreign Office is that, Britons who have been to Northern Italy and are feeling unwell should self-isolate and anybody who has been to any of the affected areas should self-isolate even if they don't have any symptoms. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
I P Knightley Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 3 hours ago, gjcc said: PETA is an anagram of Pâté. The plot thickens. Brilliant! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jambo-Jimbo Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 Hundreds of tourists are being testing at a hotel in Costa Adeje in Tenerife for Covid-19 after a confirmed case of the virus was identified there. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
milky_26 Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 31 minutes ago, Jambo-Jimbo said: Hundreds of tourists are being testing at a hotel in Costa Adeje in Tenerife for Covid-19 after a confirmed case of the virus was identified there. A doctor from northern Italy Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hueyview Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 Have a slight cold, and some underlying medical issues Hope to be clear in a day or two, as you want to be in decent health, if you can when this virus really arrives.. Notice the Chinese numbers of new infections are slightly reducing.... I think the major problem with spread in Britain, Europe, USA. Is that folk, unlike in China, etc. Will refuse to follow orders, be bloody minded and do what they want... Potentially coupled with their financial independence, will be difficult to manage.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jambo-Jimbo Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 15 minutes ago, milky_26 said: A doctor from northern Italy And this just goes to show how difficult it is to try and to contain this thing. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
OmiyaHearts Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 8 minutes ago, Jambo-Jimbo said: And this just goes to show how difficult it is to try and to contain this thing. There are many many viruses that are difficult to contain. Like the flu, which kills more people: In China, COVID-19 has around 75,000 infected, almost 30,000 fully recovered and around 2,000 deaths. In the same period, in the US alone, The Flu has already infected 26,000,000, hospitalised over 250,000 and killed 14,000 I think that's a reasonable comparison and people shouldn't get overly worried. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jambo-Jimbo Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 11 minutes ago, OmiyaHearts said: There are many many viruses that are difficult to contain. Like the flu, which kills more people: In China, COVID-19 has around 75,000 infected, almost 30,000 fully recovered and around 2,000 deaths. In the same period, in the US alone, The Flu has already infected 26,000,000, hospitalised over 250,000 and killed 14,000 I think that's a reasonable comparison and people shouldn't get overly worried. Indeed, flu does kill many more people and that is why I have no real concerns about this virus, unfortunately not everyone is as unconcerned as I am about it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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