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Just now, Alex Kintner said:

 

Yeah doesn’t bode well but hopefully

vaccine efficacy isn’t affected and therefore Christmas won’t be either 🤞🏻

 

"More data needed" on the back of very limited data is a red flag.  But "precautionary" allows some hope that lessons are finally being learned.  

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24 minutes ago, Victorian said:

 

The dismiss everything by default ideology would be amusing if it wasn't so tragic.  I'm sure we can all agree that everyone's hope is that this is a false alarm.

 

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7 hours ago, Radio Ga Ga said:

Due to get my booster on Sunday but was thinking of giving the flu jab a miss as I know a few folk who have been floored for a few days when getting double jabbed whereas nothing of note for the ones who only took the booster. 
 

Would be interested to hear of any feedback for those who took both covid and flu jabs on the same day?

Booster (Pfiser) and Flu on Monday....other than a (very) mild flu-ey feeling for a few hours and sore arms for a day or so, I was fine...1st vaccine jab (AZ) floored me for 3 days.

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I for one, welcome our new killer/mutated variant. And am willing to subjugate myself, in order to survive at the expense of others on Earth.

 

 

But, until said day of certain doom arrives...I'll carry on. For now!👀

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Victorian

We'll make a working poster out of the various bits of James with more pile ons,  I reckon.  A sort of Frankenstein : The Digital Prometheus.  

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7 minutes ago, Victorian said:

 

Better Jeemsy.  Fingers crossed eh?

Im sure there is nothing to worry about. I can almost guarantee it. I may eat my words but I think itll turn out ok and everyone ( vast vast majority ) will have a happy Xmas ( like last year really ) 

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Just now, JamesM48 said:

Im sure there is nothing to worry about. I can almost guarantee it. I may eat my words but I think itll turn out ok and everyone ( vast vast majority ) will have a happy Xmas ( like last year really ) 

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Good lad.

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Victorian

BBC reporter suggested that there's a very high level of concern in government.  But it's only about 2 days ago that this was identified so the only possible bit of data they can be looking at is it's rate of spread.  Transmissibility.  

 

There may also be scientific community concern about the scale and nature of mutations in this having a real effect on the efficacy against acute illness.  But that can't be observed for a few weeks at least.  Even then,  there's going to have to be a comparative study of outcomes in unvaccinated and vaccinated of different vaccines.  It'll take until into next year before much is known there.

 

If there's not much effect on the protection from acute illness then it's not really that bad.  That's by a long way the most crucial thing.  But the suspected transmissibility could mean restrictions.  

 

Buckle up.

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20 minutes ago, Victorian said:

BBC reporter suggested that there's a very high level of concern in government.  But it's only about 2 days ago that this was identified so the only possible bit of data they can be looking at is it's rate of spread.  Transmissibility.  

 

There may also be scientific community concern about the scale and nature of mutations in this having a real effect on the efficacy against acute illness.  But that can't be observed for a few weeks at least.  Even then,  there's going to have to be a comparative study of outcomes in unvaccinated and vaccinated of different vaccines.  It'll take until into next year before much is known there.

 

If there's not much effect on the protection from acute illness then it's not really that bad.  That's by a long way the most crucial thing.  But the suspected transmissibility could mean restrictions.  

 

Buckle up.

The CV passports will be needed to keep infections down. 

Might even have to make vaccination mandatory. 

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2 minutes ago, luckydug said:

The CV passports will be needed to keep infections down. 

Might even have to make vaccination mandatory. 

Feed me 💉 

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Just now, luckydug said:

The CV passports will be needed to keep infections down. 

Might even have to make vaccination mandatory. 

It’s gonna be a long winter that’s for sure, don’t think mandatory vaccine will happen though, not ruling it out but as other have mentioned we have a high % uptake compared to most places. 
 

I’m interested in our plan to tackle patient to patient spread in hospitals for this upcoming winter. There might already be a plan of action but I’ve no seen anything yet. 

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3 minutes ago, luckydug said:

The CV passports will be needed to keep infections down. 

Might even have to make vaccination mandatory. 

Quelle surprise !  I never saw that coming at all ! Still practically impossible to forcefully vaccinate people as well . Besides even if vaccinated you can still transit it and Croak it . 

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7 minutes ago, luckydug said:

The CV passports will be needed to keep infections down. 

Might even have to make vaccination mandatory. 

You are aware that there are zero cases of this “ new “ variant in the U.K.? 

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7 minutes ago, escobri said:

Feed me 💉 

Im trying , I’m really trying to not be cynical about all this ! 😂😎😂😎😂😎
 

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9 minutes ago, JamesM48 said:

You are aware that there are zero cases of this “ new “ variant in the U.K.? 

It's certainly the right time of year to "discover" a new variant.

No evidence it will evade the vaccines, a handful of cases in South Africa and no evidence it will even be a dominant strain.

Yet people are talking about restrictions already.

People are fed up with Covid now and hearing about cases, variants etc. Time to just get out, live our lives and, for those who choose to, take our chances. It certainly wouldn't be possible imo to again impose restrictions, regardless of the "threat" from new variants.

 

 

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2 minutes ago, Enzo Chiefo said:

It's certainly the right time of year to "discover" a new variant.

No evidence it will evade the vaccines, a handful of cases in South Africa and no evidence it will even be a dominant strain.

Yet people are talking about restrictions already.

People are fed up with Covid now and hearing about cases, variants etc. Time to just get out, live our lives and, for those who choose to, take our chances. It certainly wouldn't be possible imo to again impose restrictions, regardless of the "threat" from new variants.

 

 

 

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16 minutes ago, Enzo Chiefo said:

It's certainly the right time of year to "discover" a new variant.

No evidence it will evade the vaccines, a handful of cases in South Africa and no evidence it will even be a dominant strain.

Yet people are talking about restrictions already.

People are fed up with Covid now and hearing about cases, variants etc. Time to just get out, live our lives and, for those who choose to, take our chances. It certainly wouldn't be possible imo to again impose restrictions, regardless of the "threat" from new variants.

 

 

I agree to an to extent in regards to it’s certainly time a new variant will appear, granted discover wouldn’t be my choice of my words, “ discover” would be more plausible in the summer.
 

I also can’t deny precautions are needed but whatever decisions are made must be backed by evidence. I 100% agree with the rest of your post. 

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2 hours ago, JamesM48 said:

Im trying , I’m really trying to not be cynical about all this ! 😂😎😂😎😂😎
 

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Nothing wrong with being slightly cynical, I find myself being the same, I just try not to dive in with both feet without evidence, which I’m sure most of us have been guilty of somepoint. 
 

We have all had to live through this the last two year and regardless of our opinions on how to deal with it, wether right or wrong, cynical or not, we are all aiming for the same thing… an end to this and some normality. 
 

I’ve appreciated your input on this thread tbh, You seem open minded and like most on here  wether right or wrong, cynical or not, you’ll post how you feel. 
Also as a fan of the show I’ve enjoyed your sopranos memes 😂

 

Granted it is a meme so I’m aware your not all

that serious but “put me in the corner”

Don’t be so harsh on yourself. We all believe what we believe, it is what it is. 

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7 minutes ago, SuperstarSteve said:

Nothing wrong with being slightly cynical, I find myself being the same, I just try not to dive in with both feet without evidence, which I’m sure most of us have been guilty of somepoint. 
 

We have all had to live through this the last two year and regardless of our opinions on how to deal with it, wether right or wrong, cynical or not, we are all aiming for the same thing… an end to this and some normality. 
 

I’ve appreciated your input on this thread tbh, You seem open minded and like most on here  wether right or wrong, cynical or not, you’ll post how you feel. 
Also as a fan of the show I’ve enjoyed your sopranos memes 😂

 

Granted it is a meme so I’m aware your not all

that serious but “put me in the corner”

Don’t be so harsh on yourself. We all believe what we believe, it is what it is. 

Thanks for those kind words . It’s appreciated . 👍 nice to hear you are a fan of “ The Sopranos “ too . I tend to post Livia ones as she was , well cynical 😂 but to a very dysfunctional degree ! I just felt depressed when I read about a “ new variant “ , thinking oh ffs not again . I’m sure we all are feeling like that . ( your so right  I can be harsh on myself 👍

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13 minutes ago, SuperstarSteve said:

Nothing wrong with being slightly cynical, I find myself being the same, I just try not to dive in with both feet without evidence, which I’m sure most of us have been guilty of somepoint. 
 

We have all had to live through this the last two year and regardless of our opinions on how to deal with it, wether right or wrong, cynical or not, we are all aiming for the same thing… an end to this and some normality. 
 

I’ve appreciated your input on this thread tbh, You seem open minded and like most on here  wether right or wrong, cynical or not, you’ll post how you feel. 
Also as a fan of the show I’ve enjoyed your sopranos memes 😂

 

Granted it is a meme so I’m aware your not all

that serious but “put me in the corner”

Don’t be so harsh on yourself. We all believe what we believe, it is what it is. 

Nice post, fully endorse your sentiments.

Well done! 

 

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Victorian

More dismissal by default then.  No evidence of this... it wont do that... it's not even here...

 

Not. Learning. Any. Lessons.

 

It's a case a waiting.

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I think it's terrible they are naming and shaming poor old Botswana! Whatever ever happened to the Greek alphabet to prevent the stigmatising of nations.  

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Nucky Thompson

Going by the MSN headlines, I take it that we're meant to be shiting ourselves?

 

I don't give a feck and will just be going around as normal

 

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The Real Maroonblood
4 minutes ago, Nucky Thompson said:

Going by the MSN headlines, I take it that we're meant to be shiting ourselves?

 

I don't give a feck and will just be going around as normal

 

Totally agree.

On of my mates when he reads this will be a nervous wreck.

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Victorian
8 minutes ago, Nucky Thompson said:

Going by the MSN headlines, I take it that we're meant to be shiting ourselves?

 

I don't give a feck and will just be going around as normal

 

 

Pretty sure virtually everybody will be going around as normal.  It's not a contest to display who's giving the fewest shits like.  

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Alex Kintner
8 hours ago, Enzo Chiefo said:

It's certainly the right time of year to "discover" a new variant.

No evidence it will evade the vaccines, a handful of cases in South Africa and no evidence it will even be a dominant strain.

Yet people are talking about restrictions already.

People are fed up with Covid now and hearing about cases, variants etc. Time to just get out, live our lives and, for those who choose to, take our chances. It certainly wouldn't be possible imo to again impose restrictions, regardless of the "threat" from new variants.

 

 


Just need to wait and see and keep fingers crossed re the 32 mutations. Far too early to know anything for sure as Vic says.

 

In terms of restrictions, nobody wants them unless they are essential to saving lives. Saying they wouldn’t be possible isn’t true though.

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7 minutes ago, The Real Maroonblood said:

Totally agree.

On of my mates when he reads this will be a nervous wreck.


Sadly the MSM give no regard to the impact their front pages have on people’s mental health. 

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The Real Maroonblood
2 minutes ago, Alex Kintner said:


Sadly the MSM give no regard to the impact their front pages have on people’s mental health. 

They don’t and sadly they’ve never changed their scaremongering.

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Nucky Thompson
5 minutes ago, Victorian said:

 

Pretty sure virtually everybody will be going around as normal.  It's not a contest to display who's giving the fewest shits like.  

I had a mate text me last night panicking and my Mrs was flapping last night when she watched the news.

The headlines are meant to scare people and it's wrong

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8 hours ago, JamesM48 said:

Quelle surprise !  I never saw that coming at all ! Still practically impossible to forcefully vaccinate people as well . Besides even if vaccinated you can still transit it and Croak it . 

Thought some countries had already made vaccinations mandatory ? 

What would have happened if we hadn't had any vaccines iyo ? 

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9 minutes ago, Nucky Thompson said:

Going by the MSN headlines, I take it that we're meant to be shiting ourselves?

 

I don't give a feck and will just be going around as normal

 


I understand the frustration. In the majority we’ve all sacrificed quite a lot in the last 18 months. The mixed messages are wearing thin though. Do your bit, work from home, wear a mask etc but in the meantime let’s have a ginormous get together like Cop26 in Glasgow. At least they are banning some flights from that region. 

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The Mighty Thor
10 hours ago, Ray Gin said:

Variants, shmariants. As if Delta was ever going to make it from India to the UK. 

To be fair, they've stopped flights from SA today and not two months later like India.

 

The South Africans mustn't have a trade deal to offer. 

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The Real Maroonblood
2 minutes ago, Nucky Thompson said:

I had a mate text me last night panicking and my Mrs was flapping last night when she watched the news.

The headlines are meant to scare people and it's wrong

I would never want the media censored but with shite they come out with sometimes they should be.

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Victorian
Just now, Nucky Thompson said:

I had a mate text me last night panicking and my Mrs was flapping last night when she watched the news.

The headlines are meant to scare people and it's wrong

 

I disagree.  It's real news and is simply being reported for what it is.  Everyone should already realise that important or serious looking news is often portrayed quite 'scarily' in the headlines and opening paragraphs.  It's nothing new and it wont change.  Maybe it should but it wont.

 

Some people will already be scared and you would hope that they have people to explain that the real story is beyond the headlines.

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They are saying on the news that the current vaccines are not as effective against the new SA variant. 

Boosters on top of boosters required ? 🤔 

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1 minute ago, luckydug said:

They are saying on the news that the current vaccines are not as effective against the new SA variant. 

Boosters on top of boosters required ? 🤔 

….the wheels on the bus go round and round.

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10 minutes ago, luckydug said:

They are saying on the news that the current vaccines are not as effective against the new SA variant. 

Boosters on top of boosters required ? 🤔 

The vaccine and boosters don't work in some folk anyway. 

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33 minutes ago, Nucky Thompson said:

I had a mate text me last night panicking and my Mrs was flapping last night when she watched the news.

The headlines are meant to scare people and it's wrong

 

Totally agree.

 

They hardly know anything about it yet ffs. People are more malleable though in a state of fear. 

 

I buckled last year and didn't travel to see my parents at Christmas...largely due to my mum's flapping about getting stopped at the border etc. If any restrictions do come in this year I'll be paying the fines and seeing them anyway.

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The MSM is all bought and paid for and has all been part of the overall deception proliferated by most of the government's and endorsed by our own football club though it flies in the face of the true spirit of Hearts!

 

The real news, the dissecting of the " story" we have all been fed is challenging. To understand what's really going on you have to look underneath these. The guys at UK Colum do a great job at just that. 

 

When you start to understand the level of deception that is and continues to be demonstrated then it becomes easy to disassociate from what some would have us believe. 

 

It's a challenge for sure and for some like " Thor" it maybe beyond his cognitive processes. But 1 pm today there's only one place to be. Oh aye Thor just in case you were travelling down to watch it live, it's Plymouth not Portsmouth. But you being 150 miles of course isn't anything new. 

 

Compass for Thor! 

 

 

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4 minutes ago, thewiseone said:

The MSM is all bought and paid for and has all been part of the overall deception proliferated by most of the government's and endorsed by our own football club though it flies in the face of the true spirit of Hearts!

 

The real news, the dissecting of the " story" we have all been fed is challenging. To understand what's really going on you have to look underneath these. The guys at UK Colum do a great job at just that. 

 

When you start to understand the level of deception that is and continues to be demonstrated then it becomes easy to disassociate from what some would have us believe. 

 

It's a challenge for sure and for some like " Thor" it maybe beyond his cognitive processes. But 1 pm today there's only one place to be. Oh aye Thor just in case you were travelling down to watch it live, it's Plymouth not Portsmouth. But you being 150 miles of course isn't anything new. 

 

Compass for Thor! 

 

 

The only thing bought and paid for is your subscription to Brian Gerrish to fill your cavernous cranium with conspiracy nonsense. 

 

One of you is getting something out the deal. 

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19 minutes ago, Cruyff said:

Another lockdown on the way. 


😂 To be fair the thread could do with a reboot, that would certainly do it. 

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