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Just popped into by local chemist . You can actually just get the flu jab there . Very surprised when I asked more about it as he asked my name date of birth and said , come back in 5 minutes and we can do it . Told him I’ll need to take a rain check as I have a birthday party the morrow night so don’t want to feel like shit , if I take reaction . He said just pop in next week anytime ! Very impressed . 
 

 

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SuperstarSteve

Charlie wykes the latest to collapse in training. As far as am aware he’s in hospital at the moment. 

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jonnothejambo
1 hour ago, Radio Ga Ga said:

Due to get my booster on Sunday but was thinking of giving the flu jab a miss as I know a few folk who have been floored for a few days when getting double jabbed whereas nothing of note for the ones who only took the booster. 
 

Would be interested to hear of any feedback for those who took both covid and flu jabs on the same day?

 

I had the Pfizer booster and flu jab together on Tuesday. Pfizer in left and flu in right arm. Was given a choice including same arm. 

 

Left arm was a wee bit sore yesterday but hardly any pain at all now.

 

No other side effects whatsoever nor did I have any with my original covid vaccines which were AZ.

 

Hope this helps.

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Dennis Denuto
57 minutes ago, Radio Ga Ga said:

Thanks for the feedback Dazo, Malinga and Nucky might take the gamble and get both done at the same time. 

Both on same day, one in each arm, Pfizer arm was a wee bit sore, nothing else.

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Nucky Thompson
4 minutes ago, SuperstarSteve said:

Charlie wykes the latest to collapse in training. As far as am aware he’s in hospital at the moment. 

What's the connection that are you trying to make about players collapsing?

 

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Nucky Thompson

For the nutters trying to make a connection between footballers collapsing and the vaccine, a man collapses on the football pitch every 4 days, it's been happening for years.

 

Here's a link to a discussion 9 years ago.

 

Why are so many football players dying or collapsing from heart attacks...? - The Student Room

 

 

 

 

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SuperstarSteve
10 minutes ago, Nucky Thompson said:

What's the connection that are you trying to make about players collapsing?

 

None. I’d seen posters post articles on fleck and others so I posted another. If it wasn’t on here those they were posted then my apologies for that, wrong thread. 

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thewiseone
4 hours ago, Des Lynam said:

Always liked Ryan, as a player, the sort you'd want in the trenches with you when things got tough, calls a spade , a spade.

Wasn't blessed with the greatest ability but made up for it in attitude. Could have done with his spirit at Fir Park.

A good honest pro! 

 

We are living in strange times indeed, can't ever recall a Sun story being this close to the truth before. Afterall heart attacks and footballers , yeah happens everyday.

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Nucky Thompson
22 minutes ago, thewiseone said:

Always liked Ryan, as a player, the sort you'd want in the trenches with you when things got tough, calls a spade , a spade.

Wasn't blessed with the greatest ability but made up for it in attitude. Could have done with his spirit at Fir Park.

A good honest pro! 

 

We are living in strange times indeed, can't ever recall a Sun story being this close to the truth before. Afterall heart attacks and footballers , yeah happens everyday.

FFS :rofl:

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Jambo-Jimbo
2 hours ago, Radio Ga Ga said:

Due to get my booster on Sunday but was thinking of giving the flu jab a miss as I know a few folk who have been floored for a few days when getting double jabbed whereas nothing of note for the ones who only took the booster. 
 

Would be interested to hear of any feedback for those who took both covid and flu jabs on the same day?

 

Got both together, one in each arm, did feel a bit off for 24 hrs but nothing too bad, flu arm was a lot more sore than booster arm (AZ then Pfizer).

I do often feel a bit off after my flu jab, so that's what I'm putting mine down to, meaning I'd have been feeling rough whenever I got my flu jab.

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2 minutes ago, Jambo-Jimbo said:

 

Got both together, one in each arm, did feel a bit off for 24 hrs but nothing too bad, flu arm was a lot more sore than booster arm (AZ then Pfizer).

I do often feel a bit off after my flu jab, so that's what I'm putting mine down to, meaning I'd have been feeling rough whenever I got my flu jab.

thats all the beer you drink

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Jambo-Jimbo
2 minutes ago, milky_26 said:

thats all the beer you drink

 

Naw, nothing to do with that.......:laugh:

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Jambo-Jimbo
1 hour ago, Nucky Thompson said:

For the nutters trying to make a connection between footballers collapsing and the vaccine, a man collapses on the football pitch every 4 days, it's been happening for years.

 

Here's a link to a discussion 9 years ago.

 

Why are so many football players dying or collapsing from heart attacks...? - The Student Room

 

 

 

 

 

Bill Gates has a time machine 👍

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Radio Ga Ga
1 hour ago, jonnothejambo said:

 

I had the Pfizer booster and flu jab together on Tuesday. Pfizer in left and flu in right arm. Was given a choice including same arm. 

 

Left arm was a wee bit sore yesterday but hardly any pain at all now.

 

No other side effects whatsoever nor did I have any with my original covid vaccines which were AZ.

 

Hope this helps.

Thanks Jonno, think I’ll go with one in each arm too

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7 minutes ago, Jambo-Jimbo said:

 

Bill Gates has a time machine 👍

Thought he'd convert to Mac eventually.

 

(Geeky joke, sorry)

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Radio Ga Ga
16 minutes ago, Jambo-Jimbo said:

 

Got both together, one in each arm, did feel a bit off for 24 hrs but nothing too bad, flu arm was a lot more sore than booster arm (AZ then Pfizer).

I do often feel a bit off after my flu jab, so that's what I'm putting mine down to, meaning I'd have been feeling rough whenever I got my flu jab.

👍

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Des Lynam
53 minutes ago, thewiseone said:

Always liked Ryan, as a player, the sort you'd want in the trenches with you when things got tough, calls a spade , a spade.

Wasn't blessed with the greatest ability but made up for it in attitude. Could have done with his spirit at Fir Park.

A good honest pro! 

 

We are living in strange times indeed, can't ever recall a Sun story being this close to the truth before. Afterall heart attacks and footballers , yeah happens everyday.


I think you got that the wrong way round his ability was fine but he even admits his attitude was wrong. 
 

Footballers have been collapsing with heart problems well before coronavirus vaccinations. 

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17 minutes ago, Jambo-Jimbo said:

 

Bill Gates has a time machine 👍

so thats why vista was awful, all the R&D was spent on his time machine

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jonnothejambo
11 minutes ago, Radio Ga Ga said:

Thanks Jonno, think I’ll go with one in each arm too

 

I'm 64 and I wonder if older folks suffer less post jab reaction. Most of my friends say the same 🤷‍♂️

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Malinga the Swinga
8 minutes ago, jonnothejambo said:

 

I'm 64 and I wonder if older folks suffer less post jab reaction. Most of my friends say the same 🤷‍♂️

64, that's ****ing ancient. As a young 58 year-old, glad I suffered no ill effects.

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Boy Daniel

Latest scare from the Daily Mail 

 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10242493/Is-Botswana-variant-sudden-Covid-surge-South-Africa.html

 

 

Super-mutant 'vaccine resistant' Botswana Covid variant is driving South African surge and is nearing dominance just WEEKS after first being detected - sparking calls for a new travel ban on region to prevent outbreak here

South Africa's infection rate is growing exponentially after Botswana Covid variant was spotted in the country

Scientists warn it has spread to most of South Africa's provinces and is set to become dominant 'very quickly'

They fear the strain is highly transmissible and can infect vaccinated people more easily than the Delta variant

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thewiseone

 

 

37 minutes ago, Des Lynam said:


I think you got that the wrong way round his ability was fine but he even admits his attitude was wrong. 
 

Footballers have been collapsing with heart problems well before coronavirus vaccinations. 

Yes I know happened every week, I mean everyday! Nothing new here. It won't be long til we'll be able to do an in play bet on the next one to go down, I'm surprised it's never been on bet builder afterall it's as common as a sending off!

 

https://www.skysports.com/amp/football/news/11682/12478437/charlie-wyke-wigan-striker-stable-in-hospital-after-collapsing-during-training.

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Des Lynam
4 minutes ago, thewiseone said:

 

 

Yes I know happened every week, I mean everyday! Nothing new here. It won't be long til we'll be able to do an in play bet on the next one to go down, I'm surprised it's never been on bet builder afterall it's as common as a sending off!

 

https://www.skysports.com/amp/football/news/11682/12478437/charlie-wyke-wigan-striker-stable-in-hospital-after-collapsing-during-training.

 

How do you know he's had the vaccine? 

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Dennis Denuto
2 hours ago, Nucky Thompson said:

For the nutters trying to make a connection between footballers collapsing and the vaccine, a man collapses on the football pitch every 4 days, it's been happening for years.

 

Here's a link to a discussion 9 years ago.

 

Why are so many football players dying or collapsing from heart attacks...? - The Student Room

 

 

 

 

It is almost like they had a reason for putting  defibrillators in every sports club/ground.

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15 minutes ago, thewiseone said:

 

 

Yes I know happened every week, I mean everyday! Nothing new here. It won't be long til we'll be able to do an in play bet on the next one to go down, I'm surprised it's never been on bet builder afterall it's as common as a sending off!

 

https://www.skysports.com/amp/football/news/11682/12478437/charlie-wyke-wigan-striker-stable-in-hospital-after-collapsing-during-training.

No way should you be allowed to post your shite

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Nucky Thompson
13 minutes ago, thewiseone said:

 

 

Yes I know happened every week, I mean everyday! Nothing new here. It won't be long til we'll be able to do an in play bet on the next one to go down, I'm surprised it's never been on bet builder afterall it's as common as a sending off!

 

https://www.skysports.com/amp/football/news/11682/12478437/charlie-wyke-wigan-striker-stable-in-hospital-after-collapsing-during-training.

You don't even know if any of those players are vaccinated. 

Erikson wasn't vaccinated.

99% of Liverpool players and staff are vaccinated, none of them are collapsing.

 

I didn't think I would say this, but it's for folk like you that I wouldn't mind Sturgeon tightening covid passports.

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thewiseone
25 minutes ago, Boy Daniel said:

Latest scare from the Daily Mail 

 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10242493/Is-Botswana-variant-sudden-Covid-surge-South-Africa.html

 

 

Super-mutant 'vaccine resistant' Botswana Covid variant is driving South African surge and is nearing dominance just WEEKS after first being detected - sparking calls for a new travel ban on region to prevent outbreak here

South Africa's infection rate is growing exponentially after Botswana Covid variant was spotted in the country

Scientists warn it has spread to most of South Africa's provinces and is set to become dominant 'very quickly'

They fear the strain is highly transmissible and can infect vaccinated people more easily than the Delta variant

🤣😂😂🤣😂😂 Botswana Covid variant brilliant. This is turning into a right carry on. 

 

Just as an addition to this story you are aware that the German Man of the People, you know the guy that's credited with the agenda the government's have signed up to, Herr Schwab used to hold a position on the board at the Daily Mail?🤔

 

Now if I was a cynic and/ or a conspiracy theorist I'd begin to wonder about these dots as they seem to be drawing a clearer picture but like Nucky above I'll just keep lifting the carpet and sweeping away.

 

 

 

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Victorian

How long before some anti-vaxxer freak has a health episode and then blames it on the vaccine they haven't had?  

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Footballfirst

A notable UK milestone today with the number of confirmed cases now exceeding 10m.   That is a fair chunk of acquired immunity.

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jonnothejambo
1 hour ago, Malinga the Swinga said:

64, that's ****ing ancient. As a young 58 year-old, glad I suffered no ill effects.

 

:lol:

 

Yer a mere spring chicken...

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How do we know a collapse wasn't a result of contracting Covid which we know can cause long term organ damage?

Similarly when people talk about the long term impacts of the vaccine; where's the balance against the long term impacts of catching covid?

Funny how the vaccine sceptics never think in those terms isn't it?

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SuperstarSteve
4 minutes ago, Costanza said:

How do we know a collapse wasn't a result of contracting Covid which we know can cause long term organ damage?

Similarly when people talk about the long term impacts of the vaccine; where's the balance against the long term impacts of catching covid?

Funny how the vaccine sceptics never think in those terms isn't it?

Seen a few folk being certain it was covid or it was the vaccine or it’s always been happening. Being open minded individual cases will vary, can’t rule anything out but also can’t be sure of the cause. 

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Victorian
29 minutes ago, Footballfirst said:

A notable UK milestone today with the number of confirmed cases now exceeding 10m.   That is a fair chunk of acquired immunity.

 

Not really that significant at all in terms of acquired immunity.  Those are over about 20 or 21 months.  A lot of that immunity has substantially waned over time.  It also pales into low significance when compared to the acquired immunity via vaccinations,  both in scale and on the timeline.

 

There's still very limited knowledge regarding how well T and B cell immune memory is performing and likely to persist.  There might be some benefit there,  but also in those vaccinations.

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15 minutes ago, SuperstarSteve said:

Seen a few folk being certain it was covid or it was the vaccine or it’s always been happening. Being open minded individual cases will vary, can’t rule anything out but also can’t be sure of the cause. 

Agree. It's the certainty of the vaccine sceptics and their pseudo science BS that grinds my gears though.

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Footballfirst
26 minutes ago, Victorian said:

 

Not really that significant at all in terms of acquired immunity.  Those are over about 20 or 21 months.  A lot of that immunity has substantially waned over time.  It also pales into low significance when compared to the acquired immunity via vaccinations,  both in scale and on the timeline.

 

There's still very limited knowledge regarding how well T and B cell immune memory is performing and likely to persist.  There might be some benefit there,  but also in those vaccinations.

75% (7.5m) of those recorded infections have been in 2021, so the waning effect of acquired immunity may not be as big as you suggest.

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Victorian
Just now, Footballfirst said:

75% (7.5m) of those recorded infections have been in 2021, so the waning effect of acquired immunity may not be as big as you suggest.

 

Still a lot,  but much more importantly,  the scale of vaccination means that most of those have been superseded by more recent vaccinations or are infections despite vaccinations.  There can't be that much current acquired immunity in existence that isn't due to vaccinations.  But it all helps.  

 

The matter of immunity memory in specialist cells is probably more important.  The immune system remembers the infections it has bern primed to recognise and produces antibodies when it encounters a remembered infection.  This is a separate level of protection to current antibody levels.

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Rocco_Jambo
22 hours ago, Taffin said:

 

Cheers, really small numbers so I guess it's susceptible to spikes.

 

That said, 45 doesn't seem madly out of kilter with 47 year to 5th July.

 

 

No it isn't.

 

A week of high or low deaths could completely change the look of those statistics so with such small figures it's difficult to interpret anything significant from them other than to note that at this point unlike total deaths and the other age categories which have shown a significant decrease in deaths in the second half of this year compared to the first half of it and the whole of last year the under 45 category hasn't and it is the only one that currently is trending upwards in comparison.

 

Although being a small number they aren't too much lower than the sample sizes used by some of these effectiveness trials done by the CDC. The last one I read used a study of 179 covid positive case patients aged between 12-18 and compared the hospatilisation results of the 173 unvaccinated case patients with the 6 vaccinated case patients to conclude that the pfizer vaccine was 93% effective amongst 12-18 year olds.

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3 minutes ago, Footballfirst said:

It seems that there is real concern about the "Botswana" variant.

 

 

I suppose they have moved from South American " variants " to the African continent.  A new variant or two just in time for Xmas, De ja vu .............

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Victorian
1 minute ago, JamesM48 said:

I suppose they have moved from South American " variants " to the African continent.  A new variant or two just in time for Xmas, De ja vu .............

image-23-10-21-12-13-1.jpeg

 

You being a naive fool.  De ja vu.

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Rocco_Jambo
3 minutes ago, Footballfirst said:

It seems that there is real concern about the "Botswana" variant.

 

 

 

Maybe the western countries will move away from trying to pressure and force young fit people to get the vaccine in their own countries and shift focus to those countries where the old and vulnerable would benefit far more from it.

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Just now, Victorian said:

 

You being a naive fool.  De ja vu.

De ja vu...you being you...your so naive really..........

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5 minutes ago, JamesM48 said:

I suppose they have moved from South American " variants " to the African continent.  A new variant or two just in time for Xmas, De ja vu .............

image-23-10-21-12-13-1.jpeg

 

 

Yeah, I mean the Alpha variant last Christmas didn't cause any bother eh. Some laugh.

 

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Victorian
Just now, JamesM48 said:

De ja vu...you being you...your so naive really..........

 

The dismiss everything by default ideology would be amusing if it wasn't so tragic.  I'm sure we can all agree that everyone's hope is that this is a false alarm.

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Alex Kintner
18 minutes ago, Victorian said:

"Not a concern for the UK" to that in a few hours.

 

 

 

Yeah doesn’t bode well but hopefully

vaccine efficacy isn’t affected and therefore Christmas won’t be either 🤞🏻

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Alex Kintner
18 minutes ago, JamesM48 said:

I suppose they have moved from South American " variants " to the African continent.  A new variant or two just in time for Xmas, De ja vu .............

image-23-10-21-12-13-1.jpeg

 

:facepalm:

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