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Not my work...  But I found it pretty funny..

No doubt get slaughtered for posting it by some...

But it’s only a bit fun..

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Malinga the Swinga
1 hour ago, MoncurMacdonaldMercer said:

 

hope so but Jan and Feb traditionally very difficult months anyway for respiratory disease so while appreciate your not saying things will fine or far from it I think we need to get feb out the way as it could be difficult until then for all sorts of reasons 

So the suggestion of a 2 week break isn't enough and you want it extended to 2 months. Excellent, that'll help business and economy no end.

Can we just assume we will be doing this every year as Covid ain't going away.

We can all be thankful if we manage a week or so every year with limited restrictions.

God bless the mathematicians and advisers. They're so generous.

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4 minutes ago, Rupert Pupkin said:

Not my work...  But I found it pretty funny..

No doubt get slaughtered for posting it by some...

But it’s only a bit fun..

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I saw that on Instagram the other day, thought better of posting it on here 😂😂😂

 

 

Joking or not your in for abuse and whataboutery galore. Good luck!

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Malinga the Swinga
56 minutes ago, Nucky Thompson said:

Hospitalisations in Scotland have now dropped below 500 today. 

494 with 34 in ICU

Come on now. It's only about deaths when they're high. It's about ICU numbers. 

What, they are down, well it's about numbers in hospital. 

What, they are down. Right it's case numbers then and protecting NHS (always a good one as no-one wants to harm them).

We jump from one reason to another, depending on what's increasing. Weren't numbers supposed to be flying up by now for deaths and hospitals. Doesn't this variant have 3 day turnaround. Are we giving it another week or so before it's queried or do we simply not care anymore and just do as we're told. Sadly, I do follow rules, even if I think we're only making them for sake of being seen to do something, even if it's just made up as we go along.

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16 minutes ago, Taffin said:

 

I saw that on Instagram the other day, thought better of posting it on here 😂😂😂

 

 

Joking or not your in for abuse and whataboutery galore. Good luck!

Funny thing is,it was posted on my timeline by a Pro independence, SNP voter...  So if she found it funny...🤷🏻🤷🏻🤷🏻

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58 minutes ago, manaliveits105 said:

stop with the positivity this thread is for jkb experts to err on the doom side and support the nictatorship's diktat at all costs .

 

Is it? I could have sworn it was a thread for men in their 40s and 50s to boast or lie about all the Xmas perties and nights oot they've got planned this week too. 🤔🙄

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MoncurMacdonaldMercer
36 minutes ago, Malinga the Swinga said:

So the suggestion of a 2 week break isn't enough and you want it extended to 2 months. Excellent, that'll help business and economy no end.

Can we just assume we will be doing this every year as Covid ain't going away.

We can all be thankful if we manage a week or so every year with limited restrictions.

God bless the mathematicians and advisers. They're so generous.

 

point out to me where I suggested there should be even just 1 restriction introduced or extended - just 1

 

just stating a fact which I also said happened “anyway” ie excluding covid

 

there are some who believe there should be restrictions to tackle jan and feb who don’t advocate the year long lockdown-type restrictions tho

 

me I’m not that bothered either way other than i wouldnt wish hardship on any people be that through covid covid-restrictions or something else 

 

 

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joondalupjambo

London is falling so no doubt we will now see restrictions, financial assistance to business, travel bans et al.  As it ever is when something happens in the centre of the universe.  Watch this space.

 

 

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10 minutes ago, jonesy said:

I'm 39.

 

:verysmug:

now we know your IQ what about your age

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Gruniad , 40 minutes ago.

 

The London mayor, Sadiq Khan, has declared a “major incident” to help ease the pressure on the capital’s hospitals amid a surge in Covid-19 cases caused by the fast-spreading Omicron coronavirus variant.

A major incident enables different public agencies to cooperate and coordinate more closely, but also acts as a warning that emergency services and hospitals are unable to guarantee their normal level of response due to unusual circumstances.

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Nucky Thompson

Another 90k positive cases in the UK today.

If you're looking for a positive, it's the first day cases have dropped after 6 days in a row of rising cases.

1.6m tests carried out, a 19% rise

Deaths still dropping, but it's not all about deaths anymore 

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1 hour ago, manaliveits105 said:

stop with the positivity this thread is for jkb experts to err on the doom side and support the nictatorship's diktat at all costs .

Nictatorship.  😄  even those who completely disagree with you have to give credit for this

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11 minutes ago, Nucky Thompson said:

Another 90k positive cases in the UK today.

If you're looking for a positive, it's the first day cases have dropped after 6 days in a row of rising cases.

1.6m tests carried out, a 19% rise

Deaths still dropping, but it's not all about deaths anymore 

 

It has never been about deaths.  Not to prevent all deaths.  It has always been about preventing avoidable deaths.  People who would not have died had they received treatment.  As a consequence it has always been about volume and flow of hospitalisations.  

 

 

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The Mighty Thor
57 minutes ago, Ray Gin said:

 

Here they are. :(

 

 

 

Oh.

 

But it's snuffles but. I've studied the data from a totally irrelevant country the other side of the world. 

 

Am I doing this right?

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Nucky Thompson

A total irrelevant country :rofl:

The country that discovered Omicron and that has been circulating there for weeks.

 

:vrwow:

 

 

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10 minutes ago, Nucky Thompson said:

A total irrelevant country :rofl:

The country that discovered Omicron and that has been circulating there for weeks.

 

:vrwow:

 

 

 

He means irrelevant in the context of the two countries not being that comparable for demographics.

 

People were well cautioned to keep an open mind.  Nothing much proved yet but the jury is very much still out.

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1 hour ago, jonesy said:

I'm 39.

 

:verysmug:

 

Really? Christ almighty, jonesy, I can't imagine how world weary you'll be by the time you get to 49! ;)

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4 minutes ago, Victorian said:

 

He means irrelevant in the context of the two countries not being that comparable for demographics.

 

People were well cautioned to keep an open mind.  Nothing much proved yet but the jury is very much still out.

We can't just dismiss South Africa as irrelevant though, just because of the demographics.

 

I don't think omicron is going to change that much due to what country it's circulating in. The other variants didn't.

 

 

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Malinga the Swinga

Town busy this afternoon and I reckon close on to 100% of people wearing masks in shops I was in, which I guess is good to see.

Looking like circuit breaker for who knows how long is coming, regardless of vaccine status or anything else we were promised was the road out if this.

For those of his with kids trying to keep jobs while studying at college and uni and make way in world, it's all fairly depressing.

It appears human rights of those not taking vaccine apparently more important than rights of those who have done.

At least we took 3 points this afternoon.

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MoncurMacdonaldMercer
36 minutes ago, Nucky Thompson said:

A total irrelevant country :rofl:

The country that discovered Omicron and that has been circulating there for weeks.

 

:vrwow:

 

 

 

they need to be both islands mate - once that criteria is satisfied every thing else is directly comparable 😃

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28 minutes ago, Nucky Thompson said:

We can't just dismiss South Africa as irrelevant though, just because of the demographics.

 

I don't think omicron is going to change that much due to what country it's circulating in. The other variants didn't.

 

 

 

It isn't being dismissed.  

 

The virus is not different in different countries.  The defences vary in different countries.  People put way too much faith in the noises coming out of S.A.  People assumed that their lower vaccination coverage proved that their apparent improved clinical situation was due to a change in the virus.  There's no scientific basis to such a change,  sadly.  The UK CMO pointed out that S.A. is actually quite well immunised due to a larger and more recent wave.  We already know about the different age dispersal.  

 

The UK never appeared to have weaker mitigations than S.A. and still doesn't.  There are clearly other more nuanced factors contributing.  Our early experience of omicron is a bit worse than what was reported in S.A.  

 

Surely now it must be obvious to all that the mild symptoms theory out of S.A. is not a reliable indicator.  We may well see some granularity later on that points towards the large majority of acute illness remaining in the unvaccinated.  That will certainly prove that our vaccines are holding up well.  As for the unvaccinated... up to them,  own the consequences though.  I'm a bit sickened that these people present a significant strain on our precious healthcare heroes.  Very sickened and quite bitter about it.

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Adam_the_legend
55 minutes ago, The Mighty Thor said:

Oh.

 

But it's snuffles but. I've studied the data from a totally irrelevant country the other side of the world. 

 

Am I doing this right?

And I’m sure if it was absolutely ripping through SA and causing massive death numbers you’d be saying the same thing. Different country, totally irrelevant 🙄

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23 minutes ago, jambogaza said:

Anyone beat after their booster? Had a bloody fever most of the day, after getting it last night.

 

I was paggered after mine. Paracetamol, lots of water and much mooching about feeling sorry for myself helped. 

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7 minutes ago, Victorian said:

 

It isn't being dismissed.  

 

The virus is not different in different countries.  The defences vary in different countries.  People put way too much faith in the noises coming out of S.A.  People assumed that their lower vaccination coverage proved that their apparent improved clinical situation was due to a change in the virus.  There's no scientific basis to such a change,  sadly.  The UK CMO pointed out that S.A. is actually quite well immunised due to a larger and more recent wave.  We already know about the different age dispersal.  

 

The UK never appeared to have weaker mitigations than S.A. and still doesn't.  There are clearly other more nuanced factors contributing.  Our early experience of omicron is a bit worse than what was reported in S.A.  

 

Surely now it must be obvious to all that the mild symptoms theory out of S.A. is not a reliable indicator.  Wd may well see some granularity later on that points towards the large majority of acute illness remaining in the unvaccinated.  That will certainly prove that our vaccines are holding up well.  As for the unvaccinated... up to them,  own the consequences though.  I'm a bit sickened that these people present a significant strain on our precious healthcare heroes.  Very sickened and quite bitter about it.

Bit in bold. Why? Because 7 people in a country with 60 million people have died of/with it? 

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Just now, Adam_the_legend said:

But in bold. Why? Because 7 people in a country with 60 million people have died of/with it? 

 

Not really no.  The amount of hospital presentation at this stage of the wave is not a great start.  We're not really into the big numbers yet.  The overall picture is probably being distorted to an extent by London though.  

 

Nothing much has been proved either way.  But the wave isn't going to mysteriously fail to show.  It's all about what percentages reach the hospitals.

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31 minutes ago, Malinga the Swinga said:

 

It appears human rights of those not taking vaccine apparently more important than rights of those who have done.

 

Yup. Agreed. 

 

FTU. 

 

 

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4 minutes ago, Victorian said:

 

Not really no.  The amount of hospital presentation at this stage of the wave is not a great start.  We're not really into the big numbers yet.  The overall picture is probably being distorted to an extent by London though.  

 

Nothing much has been proved either way.  But the wave isn't going to mysteriously fail to show.  It's all about what percentages reach the hospitals.

That’s my point. You stated something which on current data is completely unknown and neither supports or rules out the milder disease theory but you still came down on the side of mild is probably wrong. 

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Just now, Adam_the_legend said:

That’s my point. You stated something which on current data is completely unknown and neither supports or rules out the milder disease theory but you still came down on the side of mild is probably wrong. 

 

There's no scientific basis to the virulence of a virus evolving so much and so quickly.  No need to take my word for it.

 

Milder symptoms or greater incidence of mild symptoms does not prove a milder virulence.  

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43 minutes ago, jambogaza said:

Anyone beat after their booster? Had a bloody fever most of the day, after getting it last night.

 

I wasn't great for about 24 hrs afterwards, Mrs JJ she was ill for 2 or 3 days afterwards, other folks no problems whatsoever.

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49 minutes ago, Malinga the Swinga said:

Town busy this afternoon and I reckon close on to 100% of people wearing masks in shops I was in, which I guess is good to see.

Looking like circuit breaker for who knows how long is coming, regardless of vaccine status or anything else we were promised was the road out if this.

For those of his with kids trying to keep jobs while studying at college and uni and make way in world, it's all fairly depressing.

It appears human rights of those not taking vaccine apparently more important than rights of those who have done.

At least we took 3 points this afternoon.

 

The thing is, we are dealing with a living organism here, which doesn't give a flying feck about what we were promised, as it'll do it's own thing, it'll mutate and evolve at it's own time scale and in whatever direction it want's to take.........all we can do, is to react to the changes and play catch up.

 

 

 

 

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2 minutes ago, jonesy said:

:beta1:

 

Moderna booster was administered into my virile body on Thursday. Feel on top of the world now. Cranking out the bicep curls on Apple Fitness during the Hearts game earlier.

 

Knew it was coming because I felt it deep.  Jabs don't bother me in the least but the sensation from that left me resigned to having a dull yin.

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Footballfirst
9 minutes ago, Jambo-Jimbo said:

Netherlands going into a complete full lockdown from tomorrow.

That's slightly surprising as the current curfew seemed to to working by cutting case numbers.  They peaked at just over 23k a day at the start of December, but have averaged just over 14k for the last few days.

 

Their 7 day / 100k average (589) has just dropped below that of Scotland (590) and is a fair bit below the UK (766).

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7 minutes ago, Lord BJ said:


Not me, though the football this afternoon much more so. Though good result. 
 

I can understand others reticence but I kind of feel it’s just a matter of time till get this tbh. Part of the progression of living with COVID is accepting you might get COVID. 
 

I’m triple jabbed and comply with the regs. Not sure how much more I can do except live my life 🤷🏻‍♂️

Agreed.

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11 minutes ago, jonesy said:

If there’s one thing that politicians of all stripes have proven over the last two years, is that they pay very little attention to the well being of the majority of the population.

 

Interestingly that seems to be cropping up more often...now that the unvaccinated are seen as fair game. 

 

Wasn't such a popular line when a few of us visionaries were saying it about overweight folk.

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15 minutes ago, Footballfirst said:

That's slightly surprising as the current curfew seemed to to working by cutting case numbers.  They peaked at just over 23k a day at the start of December, but have averaged just over 14k for the last few days.

 

Their 7 day / 100k average (589) has just dropped below that of Scotland (590) and is a fair bit below the UK (766).

 

Yeh, but those numbers are for the Delta variant, mainland Europe is only now seeing cases of the Omicron variant.

They have seen the huge increase of cases in the UK and shat it, rightly or wrongly.

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5 hours ago, MoncurMacdonaldMercer said:

 

hope so but Jan and Feb traditionally very difficult months anyway for respiratory disease so while appreciate your not saying things will fine or far from it I think we need to get feb out the way as it could be difficult until then for all sorts of reasons 

Let's just accept that the NHS has complained about being busy/under pressure/overwhelmed every Winter for as long as I can remember. 

The notion that you link hospital admissions to the basic rights and liberties of the population is an insidious and dangerous creep towards a public health socialist state. Thankfully,  the Tory backbenchers have stalled Boris from being bounced by the "scientific modellers" into more restrictive measures.  

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2 minutes ago, Jambo-Jimbo said:

 

Yeh, but those numbers are for the Delta variant, mainland Europe is only now seeing cases of the Omicron variant.

They have seen the huge increase of cases in the UK and shat it, rightly or wrongly.

There were Omicron cases detected in NL before the UK, but as they have been in a semi lockdown since then it has slowed the spread. They still expect Omicron to become the dominant variant in January.

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4 minutes ago, Footballfirst said:

There were Omicron cases detected in NL before the UK, but as they have been in a semi lockdown since then it has slowed the spread. They still expect Omicron to become the dominant variant in January.

 

You are correct, I remember that now, 13 cases from the plane load from SA.

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We could always future proof against future warnings about the NHS being overwhelmed by raising the basic rate and higher rate tax rates by 10p and invest long term in a massive expansion of NHS resources.  Let's see how Tory MPs like that.

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