Coronavirus Super Thread ( merged )

[JudyJudyJudy]

1 minute ago, Alex Kintner said:

No thanks. I prefer to give my full attention to those I’m with 👍🏻

I know what u mean bot suppose it depends who you are with ! 😎

[Herbert.]

1 minute ago, Victorian said:

 

Goodbye you.

 

Is this you trying to distance yourself from what you said in the past because your starting to worry the government has lied about more than a Xmas party?

[Victorian]

Just now, Herbert said:

 

Is this you trying to distance yourself from what you said in the past because your starting to worry the government has lied about more than a Xmas party?

 

I was just saying goodbye.  I sense a change to the access of this thread.

[Herbert.]

11 minutes ago, Dennis Denuto said:

Why are you so obsessed with Jews?

 

 

No so much Jews and don't don't to make me out to be anti semitic, It's more the way they were treated and how it was socially acceptable to treat them as sub human, there's comparisons to that now across the world. 

[Herbert.]

14 minutes ago, Victorian said:

 

I was just saying goodbye.  I sense a change to the access of this thread.

 

 

I've said nothing that breachs any rules so why would I be banned from this thread? 

[NANOJAMBO]

56 minutes ago, Boy Daniel said:

Good question. I was just saying to the wife what was the point of the 3 vaccines if we have all got to hide away again. I am happy I have been vaccinated but the reasons we were given are disappearing faster than PM Clown Shoes can lie.

No, they're not.

Covid mutates and we were warned from the start of the pandemic about dangers of mutation and how to mimise the risk of it happening.

But some people know better, won't listen and we got the Delta mutation. And now we have the current mutation and still people are refusing to get vaxed , follow simple measures to reduce risks etc. 

Vaccination is THE biggest weapon against Covid right now. 

 

 

[Don Dan]

31 minutes ago, Walter Bishop said:

Would you also deny cancer treatment to smokers and cardiac treatment to overweight people? 

As I said?  “It’s not right I should feel that way, I know.” 

They pay in to the NHS via taxes then they deserve to be treated but I still ask myself surely if you know it’s (smoking, overweight etc)  killing you then why do it? 
Thousands upon thousands of people are warned not to do it but they Choose to fill themselves with poison Why? Is it an addiction that ultimately costs us all? Maybe like insurance companies there needs to be exemptions and exclusions and people may think, no, I’m not going down that road. However our society won’t buy that. Every human requires empathy, support and treatment.
 

[Don Dan]

6 minutes ago, NANOJAMBO said:

Vaccination is THE biggest weapon against Covid right now. 

 I totally agree but we were fed the line, get vaccinated as it will reduce the need for restrictions and protect the NHS. Well that’s clearly is not the case. Now despite being triple vaccinated we are pulling up the draw bridge again. Please note I will be adhering to the restrictions but I’m questioning why they are being reimposed. 

[Herbert.]

3 minutes ago, Boy Daniel said:

 I totally agree but we were fed the line, get vaccinated as it will reduce the need for restrictions and protect the NHS. Well that’s clearly is not the case. Now despite being triple vaccinated we are pulling up the draw bridge again. Please note I will be adhering to the restrictions but I’m questioning why they are being reimposed. 

 

Why would you adhere to something that we've been told wouldn't happen again if you do as your told and get jabbed?

 

 

[Ray Gin]

5 minutes ago, Boy Daniel said:

 I totally agree but we were fed the line, get vaccinated as it will reduce the need for restrictions and protect the NHS. Well that’s clearly is not the case. Now despite being triple vaccinated we are pulling up the draw bridge again. Please note I will be adhering to the restrictions but I’m questioning why they are being reimposed. 

 

We've not been in lockdown for the last 8 months thanks to the vaccines. Nobody said you'd have one set of vaccinations and that would be you protected for life.

 

 

 

[Don Dan]

2 minutes ago, Herbert said:

 

Why would you adhere to something that we've been told wouldn't happen again if you do as your told and get jabbed?

 

 

 Out of care for others. 

[Don Dan]

Just now, Ray Gin said:

 

We've not been in lockdown for the last 8 months thanks to the vaccines. Nobody said you'd have one set of vaccinations and that would be you protected for life.

 

 

 

 that’s why I get my flu vaccine every year, most to protect myself. Now it looks certain I’ll have to get my covid vaccine every year from now on. I only hope we are not in lockdown every year despite getting the vaccine. Time will tell.

[Victorian]

3 minutes ago, Boy Daniel said:

 I totally agree but we were fed the line, get vaccinated as it will reduce the need for restrictions and protect the NHS. Well that’s clearly is not the case. Now despite being triple vaccinated we are pulling up the draw bridge again. Please note I will be adhering to the restrictions but I’m questioning why they are being reimposed. 

 

You've had the answer.  Unvaccinated + some immunity escape in vaccinated + high transmissibility = very high case rates + risk of high number of hospitalisations over a short period.  Hospitals are everything in the equation.  People need to set aside what they were told previously because the conditions have changed.

 

On the subject,  Prof John Edmunds remains extremely worried by the situation.  He's been one of the most savvy experts throughout this and never commits himself without good reason.  If Edmunds says he's extremely concerned then it's worth not ignoring it.

[Herbert.]

4 minutes ago, Boy Daniel said:

 Out of care for others. 

 

 

But they've had the vaccine that should protect them enough shouldn't it?

[escobri]

Yip the unvaxxed are the problem? 💩,  Lorraine says 90% in hospital are the unvaxxed, also 💩.What's it up to now guys 6 jibby jabs till freedom?

[escobri]

Apologies if pic or post is poor quality 🕺

[NANOJAMBO]

15 minutes ago, Boy Daniel said:

 I totally agree but we were fed the line, get vaccinated as it will reduce the need for restrictions and protect the NHS. Well that’s clearly is not the case. Now despite being triple vaccinated we are pulling up the draw bridge again. Please note I will be adhering to the restrictions but I’m questioning why they are being reimposed. 

In simple terms, the new mutation is highly transmissable and there is a lack of long(er) term understanding of its effects or the efficacy of vaccines in combatting it. 

Time will tell, hopefully it proves to be less deadly/harmful and we can get back to "normal".

In the meantime it'd be highly irresponsible to just carry on regardless. 

And personally , I'm absolutely fed up with lockdowns (OK, this time it isn't quite a lockdown ) but I'm willing to accept until we know more there's a dificult balance to be struck between freedoms & controlling the spread. 

[NANOJAMBO]

14 minutes ago, Boy Daniel said:

 Out of care for others. 

👏

[MoncurMacdonaldMercer]

1 minute ago, NANOJAMBO said:

In simple terms, the new mutation is highly transmissable and there is a lack of long(er) term understanding of its effects or the efficacy of vaccines in combatting it. 

Time will tell, hopefully it proves to be less deadly/harmful and we can get back to "normal".

In the meantime it'd be highly irresponsible to just carry on regardless. 

And personally , I'm absolutely fed up with lockdowns (OK, this time it isn't quite a lockdown ) but I'm willing to accept until we know more there's a dificult balance to be struck between freedoms & controlling the spread. 

 

 

 

[MoncurMacdonaldMercer]

18 minutes ago, Victorian said:

 

You've had the answer.  Unvaccinated + some immunity escape in vaccinated + high transmissibility = very high case rates + risk of high number of hospitalisations over a short period.  Hospitals are everything in the equation.  People need to set aside what they were told previously because the conditions have changed.

 

On the subject,  Prof John Edmunds remains extremely worried by the situation.  He's been one of the most savvy experts throughout this and never commits himself without good reason.  If Edmunds says he's extremely concerned then it's worth not ignoring it.

Would you be in favour of social distancing a measure unlike the vaccination which has been proven to significantly reduce the spread?

 

eg 3000 capacity at tynecastle / proper enforced social distancing in pubs etc (again unfortunately leading to significantly reduced capacity)

 

far from ideal but that has been proven with evidence and stuff to significantly reduce/delay the spread and what that can lead to - protect the nhs 

Edited December 9, 2021 by MoncurMacdonaldMercer

[Victorian]

2 minutes ago, MoncurMacdonaldMercer said:

Would you be in favour of social distancing a measure unlike the vaccination which has been proven to significantly reduce the spread?

 

eg 3000 capacity at tynecastle / proper enforced social distancing in pubs etc (again unfortunately leading to significantly reduced capacity)

 

far from ideal but that has been proven with evidence and stuff to significantly reduce/delay the spread and what that can lead to - protect the nhs 

 

No idea what's likely to happen.  It might be a case of trying to ride it out with a kind of lockdown or similar measures + bearing the consequences of whatever happens in the hospitals.  The medium forecasts of how this is likely to spread means that even a full lockdown wont keep a lid on it.  Come what may,  we'll see a wave with whatever it causes.  Lockdown wont lay a glove on the likely infections.  The tenuous hope of mild pathogenicity + vaccines taking the strain is the sum total of what there is to see us through.  It goes where it goes.

[Fxxx the SPFL]

1 hour ago, jonnothejambo said:

 

We're starting at 11. A few beers then a Ruby followed by pool and a quiz in a booked room. 

 

Walk up the hill when I get back to Dunblane could be difficult...

Have a great time jonno won’t see you Sunday seeing as I won the strongbow lounge tickets on here 

[Victorian]

One thing to keep an eye on is the use of the in-home anti-virals that are coming.  There was a recent comment that they're re-evaluating the prioritisation of how these are deployed.  They were marked for older and vulnerable people.  They could be diverted towards anyone else now,  purely to keep numbers out of hospital,  if worst forecasts play out.

[escobri]

2 minutes ago, Victorian said:

One thing to keep an eye on is the use of the in-home anti-virals that are coming.  There was a recent comment that they're re-evaluating the prioritisation of how these are deployed.  They were marked for older and vulnerable people.  They could be diverted towards anyone else now,  purely to keep numbers out of hospital,  if worst forecasts play out.

Midazolam?

[Newton51]

 

 

Edited December 9, 2021 by Newton51

[escobri]

Triple jibby jabbed now infected with omicron varient, keep those sleeves up 💉  💪

[Don Dan]

50 minutes ago, Herbert said:

 

 

But they've had the vaccine that should protect them enough shouldn't it?

hopefully

[escobri]

11 minutes ago, Newton51 said:

 

 

Sadly the majority will lap it up and probably want even more.

[Herbert.]

2 minutes ago, Boy Daniel said:

hopefully

 

 

Then why accept another lockdown while the government laugh at us?

 

They should be strung up. They've all flouted restrictions but told us how important it is we follow them or we can get fined. Do they get fined? Do they ****. The government have used this to grab power. They've used it to turn people on each other and have people grass on neighbours if they dared have someone over. 

[Herbert.]

6 minutes ago, escobri said:

Sadly the majority will lap it up and probably want even more.

 

 

Wish guy fawkes was around today.

[Don Dan]

1 minute ago, Herbert said:

Then why accept another lockdown while the government laugh at us?

 We are better, far better than this Government. Their day will come  sooner rather than later but they won’t get away with pissing on us. 

[Herbert.]

2 minutes ago, Boy Daniel said:

 We are better, far better than this Government. Their day will come  sooner rather than later but they won’t get away with pissing on us. 

 

 

They will, who's going to bring them to justice?

[Herbert.]

On 26/11/2021 at 12:04, Herbert said:

 

 

Just in time for a Xmas lockdown.

 

 

 

Called it

[JudyJudyJudy]

1 hour ago, Boy Daniel said:

 I totally agree but we were fed the line, get vaccinated as it will reduce the need for restrictions and protect the NHS. Well that’s clearly is not the case. Now despite being triple vaccinated we are pulling up the draw bridge again. Please note I will be adhering to the restrictions but I’m questioning why they are being reimposed. 

They can ram any new restrictions 

1 hour ago, Herbert said:

 

Why would you adhere to something that we've been told wouldn't happen again if you do as your told and get jabbed?

 

 

Exactly 

1 hour ago, escobri said:

Yip the unvaxxed are the problem? 💩,  Lorraine says 90% in hospital are the unvaxxed, also 💩.What's it up to now guys 6 jibby jabs till freedom?

She can ram it she is a ^^^^ a faux diet lite Govt half wit

29 minutes ago, Newton51 said:

 

 

They can ram it 

17 minutes ago, escobri said:

Sadly the majority will lap it up and probably want even more.

Sadly that the problem . The morons will continue to obey. Half wits 

12 minutes ago, Herbert said:

 

 

Then why accept another lockdown while the government laugh at us?

 

They should be strung up. They've all flouted restrictions but told us how important it is we follow them or we can get fined. Do they get fined? Do they ****. The government have used this to grab power. They've used it to turn people on each other and have people grass on neighbours if they dared have someone over. 

They really should be strung up 

Edited December 9, 2021 by JamesM48

[JudyJudyJudy]

1 hour ago, Herbert said:

 

 

No so much Jews and don't don't to make me out to be anti semitic, It's more the way they were treated and how it was socially acceptable to treat them as sub human, there's comparisons to that now across the world. 

Don’t worry the anti Semitic garbage is the last straw of the desperate . Look at poor Jeremy Corbyn 

[Don Dan]

7 minutes ago, Herbert said:

 

 

They will, who's going to bring them to justice?

  IMO there is a ground swell of hostility to this government (UK) and Johnson will be gone shortly along with most of his supporters. He can’t survive the many lies he’s told over the his tenure. Just wait till the 1st January when there are more border checks. He’s a dead man walking and he need to be on permanent maternity leave. 

[JudyJudyJudy]

1 minute ago, Boy Daniel said:

  IMO there is a ground swell of hostility to this government (UK) and Johnson will be gone shortly along with most of his supporters. He can’t survive the many lies he’s told over the his tenure. Just wait till the 1st January when there are more border checks. He’s a dead man walking and he need to be on permanent maternity leave. 

And like there’s gonna solve everything ! 

[Herbert.]

7 minutes ago, JamesM48 said:

Don’t worry the anti Semitic garbage is the last straw of the desperate . Look at poor Jeremy Corbyn 

 

Some folk need to wake up. They are the reason this has dragged on so long.

 

[Don Dan]

3 minutes ago, JamesM48 said:

And like there’s gonna solve everything ! 

Unfortunately not. 

[PTBCAL]

Got my booster at Ingilston today. 
 

Place was like Easter Road on Match Day. 
 

Deserted 

 

 

[JudyJudyJudy]

1 minute ago, Herbert said:

 

Some folk need to wake up. They are the reason this has dragged on so long.

 

Tell me about it bud ! Their compliance only prolongs this bull shit

[Herbert.]

5 minutes ago, Boy Daniel said:

  IMO there is a ground swell of hostility to this government (UK) and Johnson will be gone shortly along with most of his supporters. He can’t survive the many lies he’s told over the his tenure. Just wait till the 1st January when there are more border checks. He’s a dead man walking and he need to be on permanent maternity leave. 

 

 

Bawjaws, Sturgeon and all that lot don't give a ****, if they get flung out of power they will just retire to somewhere sunny and get on with life. We're living with a terrorist government we would be better under taliban control 😂

[JudyJudyJudy]

Just now, PTBCAL said:

Got my booster at Ingilston today. 
 

Place was like Easter Road on Match Day. 
 

Deserted 

 

 

I got mine at Sighthill it wss busy 

[NANOJAMBO]

15 minutes ago, Herbert said:

 

 

Bawjaws, Sturgeon and all that lot don't give a ****, if they get flung out of power they will just retire to somewhere sunny and get on with life. We're living with a terrorist government we would be better under taliban control 😂

[Ray Gin]

The UK has been one of the least restricted parts of Europe for months. Now folk are asked to work from home and the government are terrorists.

[NANOJAMBO]

4 minutes ago, Ray Gin said:

The UK has been one of the least restricted parts of Europe for months. Now folk are asked to work from home and the government are terrorists.

Some absolute arseholes on this thread today. 

[manaliveits105]

The edict from the SG who passed it on to the health board to announce to try and cancel Christmas parties is jump on the bandwagon pure politicking  by Jimmy Krankie to make the Tories look bad 

Sheer cowardice 

[JudyJudyJudy]

8 minutes ago, manaliveits105 said:

The edict from the SG who passed it on to the health board to announce to try and cancel Christmas parties is jump on the bandwagon pure politicking  by Jimmy Krankie to make the Tories look bad 

Sheer cowardice 

Correct . She’s vile . 

[Alex Kintner]

On 07/12/2021 at 23:10, JamesM48 said:

 

“ all I know is this , nobody’s very big in the first place , and it looks to me like everyone spends their whole time tearing others down “ 

 

Lead by example James 👍🏻

 

1 hour ago, JamesM48 said:

 

She can ram it she is a ^^^^ a faux diet lite Govt half wit.

 

 

1 hour ago, JamesM48 said:

The morons will continue to obey. Half wits 

They really should be strung up 

 

[NANOJAMBO]

3 minutes ago, Alex Kintner said:

 

Lead by example James 👍🏻

 

 

 

 

😄