Coronavirus Super Thread ( merged )

[JudyJudyJudy]

17 minutes ago, FWJ said:

But through it all cursed with a surfeit of empathy.

“ of how Can you be so cruel “? 

 

“Oh I can be very cruel . I have been taught by masters “ 

 

sums it up 

 

 

[Governor Tarkin]

27 minutes ago, Jambo-Jimbo said:

 

Woke up to that years ago, sir.

 

 

Never in any doubt, Jimbo. 👍

[Jambo-Jimbo]

1 hour ago, Governor Tarkin said:

 

Never in any doubt, Jimbo. 👍

 

Does help when you realise that it's been like this for.........well..........ever.

[Ulysses]

3 hours ago, Governor Tarkin said:

 

When the revolution comes, Enzo, we'll have the lot of them up against the wall.

 

 

 

Is that just before you put in place your own version of exploiting people for the money and the influence?

[Boab]

3 hours ago, Governor Tarkin said:

 

Perhaps one day, practically everyone in the world will wake up and see that they are being led by charlatans & shysters who are only in it for the money and influence. 

 

🤷‍♂️

Why I have a soft spot for bank robbers !

 

[Enzo Chiefo]

3 hours ago, Governor Tarkin said:

 

When the revolution comes, Enzo, we'll have the lot of them up against the wall.

 

 

Absolutely Guv. Only danger is that the cerebral, intellectual entrepreneurial types, like ourselves, will be next. ☹

[Governor Tarkin]

55 minutes ago, Ulysses said:

 

Is that just before you put in place your own version of exploiting people for the money and the influence?

 

The framework is already in place, Ulysses. 

 

We just need to install a couple of our chaps in a key position or two. 👍

[Governor Tarkin]

4 hours ago, Enzo Chiefo said:

Absolutely Guv. Only danger is that the cerebral, intellectual entrepreneurial types, like ourselves, will be next. ☹

 

Niemöller couldn't have put it better himself, Enzo

[Ulysses]

43 minutes ago, Governor Tarkin said:

 

The framework is already in place, Ulysses. 

 

We just need to install a couple of our chaps in a key position or two. 👍

 

I'm reminded of when someone pointed out that the difference between capitalism and socialism is that under capitalism, one lot of people oppresses another, while under socialism it's the other way round.

[Unknown user]

10 hours ago, Enzo Chiefo said:

Yip. If anyone thinks that appearing on mainstream TV, or having your moment standing  at a podium next to the PM, gives your words more credibility, then they are sadly mistaken.

As you say, Guv, the whole lot of them, politicians, scientists, pharma companies,  benefactors; they are all in it to enhance their own vested interests.

 

Oh right, hundreds of thousands of smart kids went to school, got into science and became scientists on a voyage of discovery, only to universally turn their back on their search for truth and collectively lie to oppress the world's population, in order to enhance their own interests. (Free Bunsen burners? A new lab coat?)

 

And the people fighting for truth aren't those smart kids who dedicated their lives to scientific discovery, it's the conspiracy theorist gobshites who couldn't get any further than high school science, they're the ones who have credibility in your eyes.

Edited August 2, 2021 by Smithee

[Governor Tarkin]

I know some very smart people who didn't even get as far as high school in any meaningful sense. 🤷‍♂️

[Unknown user]

1 hour ago, Governor Tarkin said:

I know some very smart people who didn't even get as far as high school in any meaningful sense. 🤷‍♂️

Scientists are they?

[Governor Tarkin]

16 minutes ago, Smithee said:

Scientists are they?

 

A couple of them, aye.

[Unknown user]

10 minutes ago, Governor Tarkin said:

 

A couple of them, aye.

 

Bet they enjoyed going away and learning about science so they'd be taken seriously and get the necessary qualifications.

 

The point is that Enzo's talking shite on a WMD scale. Scientists don't have credibility because they stand next to politicians, they're put next to politicians because they have credibility.

 

It's an attempt to put internet shite and scientific consensus on the same footing, such crap.

 

I'm not saying scientists are always right by the way, I'm not saying that they know everything or have got anything in particular right or wrong, but at least they have a ****ing clue. This anti-intellectualism is dangerous.

Edited August 2, 2021 by Smithee

[Fxxx the SPFL]

Noticed on the BBC web this morning of a report published surrounding four of the UK's largest railway stations extensive checks were carried out in January and June of this year and no trace was found of any Covid 19 particles on Trains, Escalators etc sounds positive hopefully as i'm off to London on Wednesday with the wife for a five day break can't wait to actually stand at a bar and not have to do table service.

[Governor Tarkin]

56 minutes ago, Smithee said:

 

Bet they enjoyed going away and learning about science so they'd be taken seriously and get the necessary qualifications.

 

 

I could phone around and ask.

 

56 minutes ago, Smithee said:

 

The point is that Enzo's talking shite.

 

"One man's gospel truth is another man's blasphemous lie".

 

56 minutes ago, Smithee said:

Scientists don't have credibility because they stand next to politicians, they're put next to politicians because they have credibility.

 

Regime's have been chucking folk in white lab coats alongside politicians to justify all types of horrific shit since day one. Mind all those climate change deniers a few years ago?

 

56 minutes ago, Smithee said:

This anti-intellectualism is dangerous.

 

We need more anti-intellectualism imo.

Edited August 2, 2021 by Governor Tarkin

[Unknown user]

14 minutes ago, Governor Tarkin said:

 

I could phone around and ask.

 

 

"One man's gospel truth is another man's blasphemous lie".

 

 

Regime's have been chucking folk in white lab coats alongside politicians to justify all types of horrific shit since day one. Mind all those climate change deniers a few years ago?

 

 

We need more anti-intellectualism imo.

 

None of this means that science should be ignored and gobshites listened to.

[Governor Tarkin]

27 minutes ago, Smithee said:

 

None of this means that science should be ignored and gobshites listened to.

 

In your opinion.

[Unknown user]

7 minutes ago, Governor Tarkin said:

 

In your opinion.

 

All of the opinions expressed by me on this forum are mine, unless otherwise stated.

 

But yes, I can confirm that it is my opinion that scientists are more reliable than the gobshites that have Enzo's ear.

 

 

[Governor Tarkin]

Just now, Smithee said:

 

All of the opinions expressed by me on this forum are mine, unless otherwise stated.

 

 

We need more opinions that aren't yours imo.

 

10 minutes ago, Smithee said:

 the gobshites that have Enzo's ear.

 

 

How very dare you.

[XB52]

14 minutes ago, Smithee said:

 

All of the opinions expressed by me on this forum are mine, unless otherwise stated.

 

But yes, I can confirm that it is my opinion that scientists are more reliable than the gobshites that have Enzo's ear.

 

 

I admire your persistence but fighting a losing battle. At least GT has a laugh about it but others actually believe the garbage they come out with. I'm repeating myself but they get more and more mental as they see life returning to some sort of normality

[Nookie Bear]

On 31/07/2021 at 18:37, Nucky Thompson said:

2nd weekend in England, 1st weekend in a hospitality setting.

 

No masks, no checking in to venues, strolling up to the bar, people mingling, no arsehole little Hitlers.

 

Fecking marvelous 

 

Civilisation.

[Taffin]

Is it this week (+2 weeks) that we'll start to see the increase in cases from England 'unlocking'? Or does the Delta have a different lag?

 

 

[milky_26]

7 minutes ago, Taffin said:

Is it this week (+2 weeks) that we'll start to see the increase in cases from England 'unlocking'? Or does the Delta have a different lag?

 

 

i have a feeling the euros will have muddied it a bit and reduced the effect of unlocking. i would still imagine an increase in cases will happen just not to the same extent that was predicted

[JudyJudyJudy]

14 hours ago, Enzo Chiefo said:

Absolutely Guv. Only danger is that the cerebral, intellectual entrepreneurial types, like ourselves, will be next. ☹

Oh dear 

4 hours ago, Governor Tarkin said:

I know some very smart people who didn't even get as far as high school in any meaningful sense. 🤷‍♂️

Exactly . I know a couple people with degrees and what not and they have zero common sense . In fact I would say are stupid about most things in life .scatter brains .

 

 “ it is worth knowing that anything important can’t be taught” 

7 hours ago, Smithee said:

 

Oh right, hundreds of thousands of smart kids went to school, got into science and became scientists on a voyage of discovery, only to universally turn their back on their search for truth and collectively lie to oppress the world's population, in order to enhance their own interests. (Free Bunsen burners? A new lab coat?)

 

And the people fighting for truth aren't those smart kids who dedicated their lives to scientific discovery, it's the conspiracy theorist gobshites who couldn't get any further than high school science, they're the ones who have credibility in your eyes.

😀

42 minutes ago, XB52 said:

I admire your persistence but fighting a losing battle. At least GT has a laugh about it but others actually believe the garbage they come out with. I'm repeating myself but they get more and more mental as they see life returning to some sort of normality

You still got sun stroke ? . Time for your daily  ration of fat cholestral  “ British breakfast “ at your local British bar in Turkey I think ! Keeps you off this . Mind you you tend to just post once per day and it’s always always a negative disparaging comment about some on this . Enjoy your pint 🍺 or pints should I say 

Edited August 2, 2021 by JamesM48

[Taffin]

7 minutes ago, milky_26 said:

i have a feeling the euros will have muddied it a bit and reduced the effect of unlocking. i would still imagine an increase in cases will happen just not to the same extent that was predicted

 

I'm not sure it will happen to the extent predicted either but I'm a layman and Neil Ferguson is a scientist and he said it's almost a certainty we'll get to 100,000 cases with the peak between August and mid-September. We're currently 2 doublings away from that so it's going to have to start soon. I reckon this Friday we'll start to see it ramp up.

Edited August 2, 2021 by Taffin

[milky_26]

4 minutes ago, Taffin said:

 

I'm not sure it will happen to the extent predicted either but I'm a layman and Neil Ferguson is a scientist and he said it's almost a certainty we'll get to 100,000 cases with the peak between August and mid-September. We're currently 2 doublings away from that so it's going to have to start soon. I reckon this Friday we'll start to see it ramp up.

i dont feel we will hit 100k a day but if we do i would think it will be from when unis/schools go back

[JudyJudyJudy]

21 minutes ago, jonesy said:

Here's a wee lefty-liberal wishy-washy TED talk that I thought might be relevant to this thread. Delivered by a cutie.

 

 

Really enjoyed that . Thanks for sharing . Maybe I’m being narcissistic but I related to much she said , open minded , willing to look at different views , ability to change views and not being stuck in the same mindset . Unlike some on this . I am Alfred Dreyfus 😎😎 the “ motivational reasoning “ concept resonated too . It’s all over this forum , on both sides . 

[Taffin]

25 minutes ago, jonesy said:

Here's a wee lefty-liberal wishy-washy TED talk that I thought might be relevant to this thread. Delivered by a cutie.

 

 

 

I've got a scout mindset and I won't have anyone tell me otherwise 

[Governor Tarkin]

6 minutes ago, Taffin said:

 

I've got a scout mindset and I won't have anyone tell me otherwise 

 

Is the 'scout mindset' not just a colloquialism for paedophilia?

[Governor Tarkin]

31 minutes ago, JamesM48 said:

5 hours ago, Governor Tarkin said:

I know some very smart people who didn't even get as far as high school in any meaningful sense. 🤷‍♂️

Exactly . I know a couple people with degrees and what not and they have zero common sense . In fact I would say are stupid about most things in life .scatter brains .

 

There's missing the point, and missing the point, james. 🤷‍♂️

[JudyJudyJudy]

10 minutes ago, Governor Tarkin said:

 

There's missing the point, and missing the point, james. 🤷‍♂️

It’s James not james 😎

[OmiyaHearts]

3 hours ago, **** the SPFL said:

Noticed on the BBC web this morning of a report published surrounding four of the UK's largest railway stations extensive checks were carried out in January and June of this year and no trace was found of any Covid 19 particles on Trains, Escalators etc sounds positive hopefully as i'm off to London on Wednesday with the wife for a five day break can't wait to actually stand at a bar and not have to do table service.

I find that table service only has been the big positive in all this. 

[Mysterion]

36 minutes ago, Taffin said:

 

I'm not sure it will happen to the extent predicted either but I'm a layman and Neil Ferguson is a scientist and he said it's almost a certainty we'll get to 100,000 cases with the peak between August and mid-September. We're currently 2 doublings away from that so it's going to have to start soon. I reckon this Friday we'll start to see it ramp up.

 

I don't think we're going to see it ramp to 100k any more. 

I admit I was a bit negative about the Delta variant and a third wave - I thought it was going to be an absolute mess. In some aspects my fears about case numbers were right and we saw a peak on graphs not far off the January peak. What I was wrong about was that the peak tailed off and the hospitalisations/deaths didn't get out of control.

 

Up here I think there's a link between cases and school holidays - for that basic (unscientific/unproven) reason i think England's case numbers will slowly drop throughout August before it ramps again in late Sept. Not sure what the levels will be though - I'm sort of looking at it thinking we're heading toward ever decreasing circles of case numbers... we'll keep having mini waves that tail off over the next 1-2yrs. 

 

Last bit - just an opinion. 

[Enzo Chiefo]

55 minutes ago, Taffin said:

 

I'm not sure it will happen to the extent predicted either but I'm a layman and Neil Ferguson is a scientist and he said it's almost a certainty we'll get to 100,000 cases with the peak between August and mid-September. We're currently 2 doublings away from that so it's going to have to start soon. I reckon this Friday we'll start to see it ramp up.

To be honest, Taffin. It appears that the 100k boat has sailed. Ferguson hasn't got a great reputation with his predictions and cases were originally predicted to keep increasing from the 50k on freedom day up to 100k by mid August.

They're now heading the other way, down by 30% in a week and, equally, you could say,  we're one or 2 reductions away from very low case rates.

[Enzo Chiefo]

1 hour ago, Taffin said:

Is it this week (+2 weeks) that we'll start to see the increase in cases from England 'unlocking'? Or does the Delta have a different lag?

 

 

It's 2 weeks since Freedom Day, any cases as a result of the initial rush have passed now.

[JudyJudyJudy]

7 minutes ago, Enzo Chiefo said:

To be honest, Taffin. It appears that the 100k boat has sailed. Ferguson hasn't got a great reputation with his predictions and cases were originally predicted to keep increasing from the 50k on freedom day up to 100k by mid August.

They're now heading the other way, down by 30% in a week and, equally, you could say,  we're one or 2 reductions away from very low case rates.

Enzo your giving that cretin too

much respect ( Ferguson ) ! His reputation is shattered now with his “predictions “ ! He’s a clown  .

[Beni]

1 hour ago, JamesM48 said:

Maybe I’m being narcissistic but I related to much she said , open minded , willing to look at different views , ability to change views and not being stuck in the same mindset . Unlike some on this .

 

9 minutes ago, JamesM48 said:

Enzo your giving that cretin too

much respect ( Ferguson ) ! His reputation is shattered now with his “predictions “ ! He’s a clown 

 

[Taffin]

58 minutes ago, Governor Tarkin said:

 

Is the 'scout mindset' not just a colloquialism for paedophilia?

 

Always going dark with the humour GT!

 

29 minutes ago, Mysterion said:

 

I don't think we're going to see it ramp to 100k any more. 

I admit I was a bit negative about the Delta variant and a third wave - I thought it was going to be an absolute mess. In some aspects my fears about case numbers were right and we saw a peak on graphs not far off the January peak. What I was wrong about was that the peak tailed off and the hospitalisations/deaths didn't get out of control.

 

Up here I think there's a link between cases and school holidays - for that basic (unscientific/unproven) reason i think England's case numbers will slowly drop throughout August before it ramps again in late Sept. Not sure what the levels will be though - I'm sort of looking at it thinking we're heading toward ever decreasing circles of case numbers... we'll keep having mini waves that tail off over the next 1-2yrs. 

 

Last bit - just an opinion. 

 

Hopefully it doesn't get too out of hand and instead the mini-waves remain manageable. I think in the main everyone down here has remained quite cautious. Wedding I was at recently had a lot of attendees and there was dancing and singing but everyone still did a lateral flow test beforehand. Removal of restrictions doesn't seem to have flowed through to a complete state of anarchy.

 

25 minutes ago, Enzo Chiefo said:

To be honest, Taffin. It appears that the 100k boat has sailed. Ferguson hasn't got a great reputation with his predictions and cases were originally predicted to keep increasing from the 50k on freedom day up to 100k by mid August.

They're now heading the other way, down by 30% in a week and, equally, you could say,  we're one or 2 reductions away from very low case rates.

 

I see he was copping some flack from a political scientist and the American guy who predicts elections for his 'overconfidence'. He must have based it on something though, I'm not sure how he could be so spectacularly wrong, surely it's just a matter of time.

 

22 minutes ago, Enzo Chiefo said:

It's 2 weeks since Freedom Day, any cases as a result of the initial rush have passed now.

 

I thought it was 2-3 weeks before we'd see the impact...meaning this week is the week really. Fingers crossed we get through to the middle of next week on around where we currently are. If so, I'll feel quietly confident the plan is working... albeit I'm not sure what that plan would be given they'd have planned based on Ferguson's modelling (?).

[Fxxx the SPFL]

47 minutes ago, OmiyaHearts said:

I find that table service only has been the big positive in all this. 

i just find it too slow have sat at tables for twenty minutes waiting on drinks coming pain in the backside imo.

[Gizmo]

 

16 hours ago, Enzo Chiefo said:

Absolutely Guv. Only danger is that the cerebral, intellectual entrepreneurial types, like ourselves, will be next. ☹

 

And then they came for the intellectuals...*

 

 

 

 

*FOOTNOTE. Enzo survived this particular culling with ease.  

[Jeffros Furios]

10 minutes ago, Gizmo said:

 

 

And then they came for the intellectuals...*

 

 

 

 

*FOOTNOTE. Enzo survived this particular culling with ease.  

[Governor Tarkin]

1 hour ago, JamesM48 said:

It’s James not james 😎

 

I don't think you've earned a capital letter tbh.

[JudyJudyJudy]

2 minutes ago, Governor Tarkin said:

 

I don't think you've earned a capital letter tbh.

“ earned “ ? From you ? How terribly arrogant. ! 
 

 

[Governor Tarkin]

Just now, JamesM48 said:

“ earned “ ? From you ? How terribly arrogant. ! 
 

 

 

From anyone, j-ames.

Now how about you talk me through this arrogance lark. Ta. 👍

 

 

[XB52]

3 hours ago, JamesM48 said:

Oh dear 

Exactly . I know a couple people with degrees and what not and they have zero common sense . In fact I would say are stupid about most things in life .scatter brains .

 

 “ it is worth knowing that anything important can’t be taught” 

😀

You still got sun stroke ? . Time for your daily  ration of fat cholestral  “ British breakfast “ at your local British bar in Turkey I think ! Keeps you off this . Mind you you tend to just post once per day and it’s always always a negative disparaging comment about some on this . Enjoy your pint 🍺 or pints should I say 

I try not to reply to you as you are a lost cause but just this once I'll say that I detest British pubs and British breakfasts. I live in Turkey because I love the Turkish. If I wanted to sit with Brits I would have stayed at home. No idea what your reply has to do with your latest conspiracy theories about Covid but I'm sure it made sense in your head. Please don't bother replying to this as I've wasted enough time with flat earthers today, bye 

[redjambo]

Scottish numbers: 2 August 2021

Summary

• 799 new cases of COVID-19 reported [-235; down from 1,000 a week ago]
• 13,807 new tests for COVID-19 that reported results [-7,239]
  • 6.5% of these were positive [+1.1%]
• 1 new reported death(s) of people who have tested positive (noting that Register Offices are now generally closed at weekends) [-2]
• 60 people were in intensive care yesterday with recently confirmed COVID-19 [-2]
• 407 people were in hospital yesterday with recently confirmed COVID-19 [-15]
• 4,012,496 people have received the first dose of the Covid vaccination and 3,214,801 have received their second dose [+1,436; +16,902]

[Unknown user]

2 hours ago, JamesM48 said:

It’s James not james 😎

He's right though Jimothy

[redjambo]

The latest trend stats. No significant changes from the trends over the last few days.

 

		7-day per-100,000 cases
Council Area	WHO	Today	Yesterday			31 Jul	30 Jul	29 Jul	28 Jul	27 Jul	...	1 May
Scotland		145	149	-4		152	158	159	166	176	...	22
Inverclyde	4	223	225	-2		222	219	186	186	197	...	15
West Dunbartonshire	4	207	221	-14		216	223	229	232	237	...	28
South Lanarkshire	4	203	208	-5		201	202	194	189	180	...	18
Na h-Eileanan Siar	4	196	208	-12		204	223	230	238	192	...	0
North Lanarkshire	4	196	192	+4		203	206	206	217	226	...	40
West Lothian	4	186	187	-1		187	181	174	187	188	...	26
Midlothian	4	175	160	+15		166	176	176	180	211	...	10
Clackmannanshire	4	168	174	-6		183	199	193	189	187	...	14
Glasgow City	4	160	169	-9		175	185	187	206	224	...	33
East Lothian	4	158	157	+1		169	192	196	216	216	...	5
North Ayrshire	4	156	165	-9		168	174	157	164	156	...	17
Stirling	4	151	163	-12		172	158	158	171	182	...	11
Dundee City	3	149	155	-6		161	165	165	170	182	...	13
Fife	3	149	154	-5		161	164	162	167	171	...	32
South Ayrshire	3	146	143	+3		141	139	130	134	144	...	25
East Dunbartonshire	3	140	131	+9		119	108	106	111	130	...	51
Aberdeen City	3	138	141	-3		141	144	141	148	152	...	13
Dumfries & Galloway	3	134	140	-6		144	138	133	121	130	...	19
Edinburgh City	3	133	140	-7		148	153	159	173	183	...	27
Renfrewshire	3	133	135	-2		132	137	147	152	163	...	20
East Renfrewshire	3	128	122	+6		113	120	136	148	160	...	24
Falkirk	3	123	131	-8		140	146	149	152	165	...	23
East Ayrshire	3	120	122	-2		126	137	141	156	164	...	45
Scottish Borders	3	102	107	-5		118	133	141	144	150	...	6
Angus	3	98	113	-15		115	112	116	119	133	...	7
Highland	3	96	105	-9		105	123	130	121	133	...	9
Perth & Kinross	3	95	95	0		99	104	104	116	132	...	22
Aberdeenshire	3	90	93	-3		83	85	94	99	108	...	8
Moray	3	89	96	-7		103	109	121	129	139	...	65
Argyll & Bute	3	84	107	-23		115	114	114	130	150	...	7
Shetland Islands	3	79	74	+5		83	96	122	122	171	...	0
Orkney Islands	1	9	9	0		27	36	40	49	54	...	0
7-day averages		Today	Yesterday			31 Jul	30 Jul	29 Jul	28 Jul	27 Jul	...	1 May
Tests		23730	23705	+25		23296	23458	23430	23373	23829	...	18484
Cases		1133	1161	-28		1190	1232	1239	1300	1372	...	171
Positivity rate %		5.3	5.4	-0.1		5.7	5.8	5.9	6.2	6.4	...	1.1
Deaths		6.9	6.7	+0.2		6.3	6.6	6.6	7.9	7.6	...	1.3
All Vaccinations		19509	18909	+600		18635	19016	18891	18716	18581	...	45346
1st Dose		1981	1994	-13		2104	2179	2213	2261	2318	...	6677
2nd Dose		17528	16915	+613		16531	16837	16678	16455	16263	...	38669
All in hospital		455	464	-9		473	477	482	481	489	...	81
Non-ICU		393	402	-9		410	415	420	420	429	...	70
ICU		62	62	0		63	62	62	61	60	...	11

[theshed]

1 hour ago, **** the SPFL said:

i just find it too slow have sat at tables for twenty minutes waiting on drinks coming pain in the backside imo.

Booked seats on Saturday for 2pm.

Sat waiting till Table was ready at 2.15. 
Then had to download app from

thr table I was sat at and couldn’t get signal so had to join their WiFi ( should have done this on arrival I know) 

 

Anyway after a carry on trying to order a mixer for the vodka the drinks arrived just after 230pm.  
30 mins to get one drink leaving me with 1 hour 30 mins of my booked two hour slot 
 

I asked if the person could just take my order but she said no and to use the app. Was on the verge of just walking out but knew I wouldn’t get in anywhere else so just stayed 

No going back to a pub till I can walk up and order at the bar