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gjcc
31 minutes ago, Worthing Jambo said:

We are all to blame for this not political parties.

They all know it would have been political suicide to say that they would increase taxes to fully fund the NHS and care system etc.

Only a few would have voted for it.

Especially in my neck of the woods.


And it’ll be political suicide again as soon as all this blows over. 

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East Lothian Jambo
15 minutes ago, cannonfoda said:

There's no way that China's figures are right.  Poorer health system than Italy, poorer infrastructure, higher demographic of the worst age affected, significantly poorer population than industrial north Italy.  Add at least 2 zeros to their figures and would be closer.  Got a mate in China and even they don't believe the figures.   

 

Must have been audited by duff and Phelps.   

I'm not sure we have any way of knowing the accuracy of what is being peddled out of China 

 

I do think China will be viewed very differently by the world in the aftermath of this 

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AlimOzturk
Posted (edited)

Wouldn't deal with china after this. Rebuild our industry and produce our own stuff and deal with countries which give shit about human and animal rights and don't start world pandemics by not disclosing information sooner. Arsehole countrty

 

Edited by AlimOzturk

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The Roller
3 minutes ago, AlimOzturk said:

Wouldn't deal with china after this. Rebuild our industry and produce our own stuff and deal with countries which give shit about human and animal rights and don't start world pandemics by not disclosing information sooner. Arsehole countrty

 


Much easier said than done but I understand the sentiment 

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DETTY29
12 minutes ago, Mauricio Pinilla said:

https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/26/health/coronavirus-thousand-deaths-thursday/index.html

 

America is in big trouble with this. Just seem so ****ing ill equipped to deal with it. 

With their money they have a chance.

 

But their current President is the biggest arsehole leader in the world by a country mile.

 

But still nearly 50% , if not more of their population follow his every word.

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Stokesy
51 minutes ago, DETTY29 said:

Loads of folk including my wife who is a carer think things will change in 2 years time.

 

No it won't.

 

You'll be coming up to traffic lights,  decide not to go through amber and the white van man behind you will bang on his horn and then when everyone gets going he'll cut across folk to make up time.

 

Banks won't say, in the light of day after all the country has gone through, 39.9% rates are extortionate.

 

And so on and so on......

 

I was hoping that this would lead to a change in the way in which our economy works.

 

This disease is caused by us poaching wild animals and keeping them in horrendous conditions where disease transmission is inevitable. We've seen the environmental changes that have occurred from grounding flights for a couple of weeks. This seems like an opportunity to change things for the better and reduce consumption after everything has subsided.

 

Now that China appears to have got over the outbreak they're ramping up production to make up for lost time. In a year we'll be right back where we started.

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SectionDJambo
Posted (edited)
10 minutes ago, AlimOzturk said:

Wouldn't deal with china after this. Rebuild our industry and produce our own stuff and deal with countries which give shit about human and animal rights and don't start world pandemics by not disclosing information sooner. Arsehole countrty

 

It certainly wouldn’t hurt to be not so entwined with them as we appeared to be heading before this crisis. The danger of being too reliant on imports from countries who, traditionally, don’t share our values on democracy, human rights or security, may cause a realignment of thought of domestic security over those cheap imports.
It doesn’t stretch the imagination too much to envisage a different world after this passes.

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DETTY29
2 minutes ago, SectionDJambo said:

It certainly wouldn’t hurt to be not so entwined with them as we appeared to be heading before this crisis. The danger of being too reliant on imports from countries who, traditionally, don’t share our values on democracy, human rights or security, may cause a realignment of thought of domestic security over those cheap imports.
It doesn’t stretch the imagination too much to envisage a different world after this passes.

Give it a year tops and selfishness will take over.

 

 

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DETTY29
Posted (edited)
12 minutes ago, Stokesy said:

 

I was hoping that this would lead to a change in the way in which our economy works.

 

This disease is caused by us poaching wild animals and keeping them in horrendous conditions where disease transmission is inevitable. We've seen the environmental changes that have occurred from grounding flights for a couple of weeks. This seems like an opportunity to change things for the better and reduce consumption after everything has subsided.

 

Now that China appears to have got over the outbreak they're ramping up production to make up for lost time. In a year we'll be right back where we started.

Yep.

 

We had out first House Party chat tonight and when we got round to football it was suggested that initially many grounds will be sold out as we are so desperate to watch football again.

 

The same will be said of so many other aspects of life.   The race to the bottom will imo opinion intensify.  Someone will discover the next greatest gadget in the world that most of the Western world can't survive without and only the Chinese can produce cheaply.

 

As we were till the next time.

 

But the periods between every  next time is shortening.

Edited by DETTY29

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Jamhammer

It’s, as always showing the best and worst of us.

People being kind and volunteering to help neighbours etc

Greedy arseholes

Applauding the NHS

Refusing to listen to basic instruction to prevent the spread of a, potentially fatal illness.

Strange days indeed

 

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heartsfc_fan

Related to the current situation, I popped into Tesco earlier for essentials and the price of petrol was 102.9p 😲 madness. Not seen it that low for a long time.

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robbo1874

Granton

My wife and I put our wee Bluetooth speaker on the window sill and I pumped applause and cheering through it from YouTube .🤦‍♂️I know but it done it's job and helped getting quite a few joining in. 

My wife works in a care home, it's been a really stressful,tense time for her so she shed a wee tear.

I think it was good for her to get a release so maybe it's a good thing if in some way people get that if nothing else. 

Maybe collectively we needed it as there's not been much good news about.

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ri Alban

Showing appreciation by clapping costs you nothing. It's consolidation with our fellow citizens, just like a minutes silence in November. Just feck up if you can't bring yourself to support the Services who are fighting for our lives.

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Zlatanable
Posted (edited)

After being inside for days, I went for a walk and to a big Lidl today.

I was a bit scared of what the shops would be like, but it was alright. Wasn't too busy, stock was ok. Most people were distancing. Still strange though.

In the Country Park, quite a few families with children were out. Which is unusual. Often playing in amongst the trees. Not many dog walkers. 

 

I was sceptical about the #ClapForTheNHS earlier, and thought nobody round here would do it.

I went outside at 8pm and many of my neighbours were doing it and I joined in.

It was surpassingly touching, I felt like crying. 

(I saw a poster use the word release, in a recent post above. Thats a good word for how I felt.)

 

Edited by Zlatanable

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Robbo-Jambo
26 minutes ago, Zlatanable said:

After being inside for days, I went for a walk and to a big Lidl today.

I was a bit scared of what the shops would be like, but it was alright. Wasn't too busy, stock was ok. Most people were distancing. Still strange though.

In the Country Park, quite a few families with children were out. Which is unusual. Often playing in amongst the trees. Not many dog walkers. 

 

I was sceptical about the #ClapForTheNHS earlier, and thought nobody round here would do it.

I went outside at 8pm and many of my neighbours were doing it and I joined in.

It was surpassingly touching, I felt like crying. 

(I saw a poster use the word release, in a recent post above. Thats a good word for how I felt.)

 

Felt the same in that is was surprisingly emotional and a bit surreal at the same time. 

 

Sometimes feel that I am on the outside looking in at some sort of movie going on around about me. 

 

Strange days followed by sleepless nights at the moment. 

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gjcc
32 minutes ago, Zlatanable said:

 

I was sceptical about the #ClapForTheNHS earlier, and thought nobody round here would do it.

I went outside at 8pm and many of my neighbours were doing it and I joined in.

It was surpassingly touching, I felt like crying. 

(I saw a poster use the word release, in a recent post above. Thats a good word for how I felt.)

 


A showing of solidarity can’t be a bad thing. Particularly in recent times when folk have just been looking after themselves and their own.

Most are doing their part, wether it be working for the NHS, keeping the supply chain moving and shelves stocked or simply just staying home. Remove one link in that chain and it won’t work. 

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Smithee
3 hours ago, Worthing Jambo said:

We are all to blame for this not political parties.

They all know it would have been political suicide to say that they would increase taxes to fully fund the NHS and care system etc.

Only a few would have voted for it.

Especially in my neck of the woods.

I didn't mention political parties, but as you bring it up, here are the Tories cheering after voting down decent pay rises for nurses, firemen, police, teachers.

 

We don't need to raise taxes, we need to spend on things that are actually important, prioritise correctly.

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Zlatanable
16 minutes ago, Robbo-Jambo said:

Felt the same in that is was surprisingly emotional and a bit surreal at the same time. 

 

Sometimes feel that I am on the outside looking in at some sort of movie going on around about me. 

 

Strange days followed by sleepless nights at the moment. 

Stuff like that happens on twitter occasionally, and has become a bit naff. 

But tonights one was more real than I was expecting.

 

I reflect on things a lot usually, and try to examine why I think something. But I am actively avoiding doing that, because now seems so unreal. I want to live in the present as much as possible. (dunno if that makes sense)

 

I am going to sleep when I stop being awake. I woke up at midday for the first time in years today. My sleep timings have been very different.

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John Gentleman
19 minutes ago, gjcc said:


A showing of solidarity can’t be a bad thing. Particularly in recent times when folk have just been looking after themselves and their own.

Most are doing their part, wether it be working for the NHS, keeping the supply chain moving and shelves stocked or simply just staying home. Remove one link in that chain and it won’t work. 

Same goes for our equivalent here — Medicare. 

It would be a very foolish politician to stuff around with them; there's just huge popular mainstream support.

That why the USA is in deep trouble — they don't have an equivalent. Just noticed that their total number of cases now exceeds China (85,360). Yet, 50% of them will still cheer on Trump. Are they really that stupid?

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Dagger Is Back
9 hours ago, iantjambo said:


Not looking good. 
She’s been moved to the ICU and put into an induced coma.


Really sad to hear that Isn. Hope she pulls through 

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John Gentleman
19 minutes ago, Dagger Is Back said:


Really sad to hear that Isn. Hope she pulls through 

Likewise from me mate.

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Zlatanable

Difficult situation for UK citizens in New Zealand

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DETTY29
3 hours ago, Smithee said:

I didn't mention political parties, but as you bring it up, here are the Tories cheering after voting down decent pay rises for nurses, firemen, police, teachers.

 

We don't need to raise taxes, we need to spend on things that are actually important, prioritise correctly.

We also need notably, I don't know, lets say politicians (Jacob Reece Mogg) and business people (Branson and Dyson) to stop hiding behind offshore tax havens and bring their wealth back to the UK to be taxed properly.

 

And the same for any Scottish or Welsh independents who have offshore wealth hidden away too.

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ri Alban

70% of deaths in Italy are Men. 

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Tommy Brown

 

He must hating typing that

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Tommy Brown
Posted (edited)

Spain , France and Switzerland are showing progressively higher critically ill.

 

Germany has imo bizarrely low.critcally I'll figures. Would like to think  that these are good figures to compare, these will hospitalised cases.

Edited by Tommy Brown

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ri Alban

How the feck can you eat, pay rent, power and heat yer house from £80 odd a week universal credit. Aye, people would rather not work.  :Aye:

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Tommy Brown
19 minutes ago, ri Alban said:

How the feck can you eat, pay rent, power and heat yer house from £80 odd a week universal credit. Aye, people would rather not work.  :Aye:

 

sounds as if getting a job with a local supermarket is a better option, Ri?

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ri Alban
Posted (edited)
9 minutes ago, Tommy Brown said:

 

sounds as if getting a job with a local supermarket is a better option, Ri?

Need to what til June for cis 80% thingy, so I've applied for Menzies multi drop driving. Need to work, bud. Tesco etc... Anything!!! 

My van hire fae work is now been suspended too. Great! 

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Dazo
Posted (edited)
1 hour ago, ri Alban said:

70% of deaths in Italy are Men. 


Are you surprised ? Majority of men, especially the older you get completely ignore anything said to them and think nothing can hurt them. Generally a bunch of arseholes. It will be the same has this country, the majority of deaths will be men. 

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ri Alban
2 minutes ago, Dazo said:


Are you surprised ? Majority of men, especially the older you get completely ignore anything said to them and think nothing can hurt them. Generally a bunch of arseholes. It will be the sane is this country, the majority of deaths will be men. 

Womens immune systems are better, apparently. China is the same, BTW. 

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Dazo
7 minutes ago, ri Alban said:

Womens immune systems are better, apparently. China is the same, BTW. 


Probably due to being able to have children. Still think it’s what I said. 

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Tommy Brown
Posted (edited)
28 minutes ago, Dazo said:


Are you surprised ? Majority of men, especially the older you get completely ignore anything said to them and think nothing can hurt them. Generally a bunch of arseholes. It will be the same has this country, the majority of deaths will be men. 

It's a stat I would like to see.

Sex/age/health/blood group

 

We'll never see it until afterwards, it would send out wrong signals.

Everyone must assume it could kill them.

 

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flecktimus
14 hours ago, graygo said:

So if you've been self employed and don't have at least a years accounts you're getting nada, nil, zilch.

 

As suggested it's 80% of average of last 3 years or less if that's all you have.

 We have made a loss for the last 3 years as we have reinvested to bring our Hotel up to standard, so it looks like we will get nada, nil, zilch

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luckyBatistuta
Posted (edited)
2 hours ago, ri Alban said:

70% of deaths in Italy are Men. 

38 minutes ago, Dazo said:


Are you surprised ? Majority of men, especially the older you get completely ignore anything said to them and think nothing can hurt them. Generally a bunch of arseholes. It will be the same has this country, the majority of deaths will be men. 

It doesn’t surprise me at all. A large percentage have terrible hygiene levels imo. How many times do you see a guy walk straight past the sinks and out the door of the toilet. It’s bad enough they’ve been for a pee and not washed their hands, but loads who have just had a dump do it too, leaving you to try and exit the place using the same handle they’ve just used.

Edited by luckyBatistuta

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Harry Potter
7 minutes ago, flecktimus said:

 We have made a loss for the last 3 years as we have reinvested to bring our Hotel up to standard, so it looks like we will get nada, nil, zilch

Hopefully more rules come in to place to help you bud, im sure there will be.

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kingantti1874
Posted (edited)
9 minutes ago, flecktimus said:

 We have made a loss for the last 3 years as we have reinvested to bring our Hotel up to standard, so it looks like we will get nada, nil, zilch


Why ? You have made less than 50k profit and have more than a years accounts? 
 

I do find it a bit ironic that plumber A who is under the £50k threshold by taking cash in hand will benefit but Plumber B who put everything  through the books and made £60k will miss out.

 

something wrong there

Edited by kingantti1874

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Smithee
37 minutes ago, Dazo said:


Are you surprised ? Majority of men, especially the older you get completely ignore anything said to them and think nothing can hurt them. Generally a bunch of arseholes. It will be the same has this country, the majority of deaths will be men. 

:Agree: my stepdad's raging at being told what to do. The older ones are stubborn arseholes, the younger ones reckless dicks, it makes sense men would be in trouble.

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ri Alban
3 minutes ago, luckyBatistuta said:

It doesn’t surprise me at all. A large percentage have terrible hygiene levels imo. How many times do you see a guy walk straight past the sinks and out the door of the toilet. It’s bad enough they’ve been for a pee and not washed their hands, but loads who have just had a dump do it too, leaving you to try and exit the place using the same handle they’ve just used.

I could not really compare, as I don't go into female toilets. 

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flecktimus
3 minutes ago, kingantti1874 said:


Why ? You have made less than 50k profit and have more than a years accounts? 
 

I do find it a bit ironic that plumber A who is under the £50k threshold by taking cash in hand will benefit but Plumber B who put everything  through the books and made £60k will miss out.

 

something wrong there

Investment to bring down profits means you dont get any payment?

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ri Alban
3 minutes ago, kingantti1874 said:


Why ? You have made less than 50k profit and have more than a years accounts? 
 

I do find it a bit ironic that plumber A who is under the £50k threshold by taking cash in hand will benefit but Plumber B who put everything  through the books will miss out.

 

something wrong there

Stop, just stop! With the cash in hand bullshit. 

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luckyBatistuta
Just now, ri Alban said:

I could not really compare, as I don't go into female toilets. 

That’s why I’m giving you my expert advice😉

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vegas-voss
9 hours ago, AlimOzturk said:

Wouldn't deal with china after this. Rebuild our industry and produce our own stuff and deal with countries which give shit about human and animal rights and don't start world pandemics by not disclosing information sooner. Arsehole countrty

 

Have we not already done deal with Huawei for 5g network ?

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Harry Potter
1 minute ago, vegas-voss said:

Have we not already done deal with Huawei for 5g network ?

Think that was the one Trump was unhappy about.

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vegas-voss
59 minutes ago, Dazo said:


Are you surprised ? Majority of men, especially the older you get completely ignore anything said to them and think nothing can hurt them. Generally a bunch of arseholes. It will be the same has this country, the majority of deaths will be men. 

China was the same

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Dazo
25 minutes ago, luckyBatistuta said:

It doesn’t surprise me at all. A large percentage have terrible hygiene levels imo. How many times do you see a guy walk straight past the sinks and out the door of the toilet. It’s bad enough they’ve been for a pee and not washed their hands, but loads who have just had a dump do it too, leaving you to try and exit the place using the same handle they’ve just used.

 

23 minutes ago, Smithee said:

:Agree: my stepdad's raging at being told what to do. The older ones are stubborn arseholes, the younger ones reckless dicks, it makes sense men would be in trouble.


Exactly why it’s more men imo

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redjambo
1 minute ago, Dazo said:

 


Exactly why it’s more men imo

 

There *might* be a correlation with smoking as well.

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