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2 minutes ago, Boof said:

She said the Scottish government's strategic framework was "deliberately cautious" at this stage.

"But in the coming weeks, if the data allows and positive trends continue, we will seek to accelerate the easing of restrictions," she said.

 

Sounds reasonable to me.

I’m out the loop a wee bit with what’s been going on but I think folk expected more than just back to level 3 by end of April. Just disappointment because people are itching to get back to normal. 

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Fitba fans are oot the windae until the next season. Think we can assume that now fairly safely.

 

Aberdeen fund raiser coming up...

 

:pleasing:

 

 

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Just now, GinRummy said:

I’m out the loop a wee bit with what’s been going on but I think folk expected more than just back to level 3 by end of April. Just disappointment because people are itching to get back to normal. 

 

Which will, presumably, have a greater chance of happening if 'the data allows and positive trends continue'.

 

Would it be worse to have expectations raised then dashed - again?

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Just now, Barack said:

Fitba fans are oot the windae until the next season. Think we can assume that now fairly safely.

 

Aberdeen fund raiser coming up...

 

:pleasing:

 

 


yep, zero chance of going to games this season. 
Cormack will be hysterical now. 
definitely the best season to have been demoted tbh

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52 minutes ago, CavySlaveJambo said:

Only works in his favour if it is on a council level again.  If it is on NHS Board they are screwed (As will be in with Aberdeen and Aberdeenshire - and rely on Aberdeen for maternity care and ICU) 

 

The way it has been going these last few weeks, it will be Aberdeen and Aberdeenshire who don't want to get lumped in with Moray. :)

 

By the way, if I remember correctly and it was you with whom I had the discussion about how Moray would be affected by the pre-festive period, I doff my cap. You were right, their numbers did rise quite significantly compared to how they had fared historically, and they haven't yet been able to recover to where they were before.

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3 minutes ago, redjambo said:

 

I'll have to be honest, sadj, and say that I didn't listen to her either. I must have a word with her at some point and ask her not to schedule any more important announcements for the same time that I do my stats each day. :D I'm just banking on JKB and the Beeb providing a worthy synthesis of what she said.

 

The Beeb summary is:

 

The reopening of Scotland's economy - including shops, bars, restaurants, gyms and hairdressers - is expected to start in the last week of April, First Minister Nicola Sturgeon has announced.

She said there would be a "progressive easing" of restrictions before then, with four people from two households allowed to meet outdoors from 15 March.

All primary and more secondary school pupils could return from that date.

It is hoped to lift the stay at home restriction on 5 April.

Ms Sturgeon said it would be necessary to "rely very heavily" on restrictions to suppress the virus for "a bit longer".

She said the Scottish government's strategic framework was "deliberately cautious" at this stage.

"But in the coming weeks, if the data allows and positive trends continue, we will seek to accelerate the easing of restrictions," she said.

 

3 minutes ago, Boof said:

She said the Scottish government's strategic framework was "deliberately cautious" at this stage.

"But in the coming weeks, if the data allows and positive trends continue, we will seek to accelerate the easing of restrictions," she said.

 

Sounds reasonable to me.


cheers Red

 

agree with you both , organising briefings at inconvenient times is a disgrace and what was said seems reasonable.

 

one point is the data not being available that was for BJ to make his statement as he said yesterday they had worked closely with devolved nations. 
 

Dont see anything said as a surprise and its broadly in line with England and I assume is also based in the declining numbers of vaccines making them choose the deliberately cautious approach.

 

BJ has said today in interviews words that could be taken as its all but a guarantee everything will be back to normal by 21st June. Thats putting an end date on it hours after Hancock said what can be interpreted as its likely dates will get knocked back. 

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Just now, Boof said:

 

Which will, presumably, have a greater chance of happening if 'the data allows and positive trends continue'.

 

Would it be worse to have expectations raised then dashed - again?

Indeed. I think people’s expectations were raised today though. Personally, I’m quite disappointed but I’d rather a good surprise in a few weeks than told lifting of restrictions were delayed. 

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2 minutes ago, redjambo said:

 

The way it has been going these last few weeks, it will be Aberdeen and Aberdeenshire who don't want to get lumped in with Moray. :)

 

By the way, if I remember correctly and it was you with whom I had the discussion about how Moray would be affected by the pre-festive period, I doff my cap. You were right, their numbers did rise quite significantly compared to how they had fared historically, and they haven't yet been able to recover to where they were before.

Yup all those bloody tory farmers and their keys in the bowl parties

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1 minute ago, sadj said:

Yup all those bloody tory farmers and their keys in the bowl parties

 

:D Someone needs to table a question on that at Holyrood.

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4 minutes ago, 1971fozzy said:


yep, zero chance of going to games this season. 
Cormack will be hysterical now. 
definitely the best season to have been demoted tbh

Season is due to end on the 15th/16th of May for them, isn't it?

 

Ruined. Hopefully dragging another couple into the deaths of misery.

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55 minutes ago, Enzo Chiefo said:

WO, if you or any of your fellow lockdown disciples are struggling to move through the cerebral gearbox during the pandemic, Jonesy, James or any of the team will be able to help: [email protected]👍

👍😂

48 minutes ago, Brian Dundas said:

I think there is no harm in at least giving a nod to the dates mentioned by the PM as a guideline we hope to work to, let's show some unity in the devolved governments for once. 

Agreed 

46 minutes ago, Dazo said:


Absolutely this. The time to try and be different or score points is over. The PM made a great start to the process yesterday I was optimistic she would follow on from that. 

Agreed 

39 minutes ago, **** the SPFL said:

is she on speed she's talking at 100 mile an hour 

She’s talking like Vicky pollard . Or maybe she is on speed ? Explain thy sunken eyes or she needs a better make up artist 

28 minutes ago, Gards said:

So basically:-

 - We stay in lockdown/stay at home until end April

 - Schools will be opened up more up to that point

 - There may be some relaxation on worship and click and collect - but nothing really changes outside of that from now to end April

 - At end April we move back to levels....likely to be level 3

 - The above may be accelerated if numbers go better than expected.

 

Sound about right?

 

If so....sigh

It’s all very cynical as I bet that things will “ accelerate “ and things mive quicker then a certain country beat us and she and the Govt are hailed and lauded for this , ching Ching more votes 

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Just now, Boy Daniel said:

A good shot there of Sturgeon with her head in her hands. 

 

Whether you like her or not, you have to admit that she's had a tough time of it all. I wouldn't want to be in her shoes anyway.

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1 minute ago, redjambo said:

 

:D Someone needs to table a question on that at Holyrood.


Haha can you imagine.

 

Where is the looking at NS and her looking tired coming from , her and BJ have looked like shit for weeks both look like they haven’t slept in a year. Or... is it just the Salmond stuff people are looking more closely?

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1 minute ago, redjambo said:

 

Whether you like her or not, you have to admit that she's had a tough time of it all. I wouldn't want to be in her shoes anyway.

Even Jimmy Choo's?

 

:sadrobbo:

 

 

GinRummy wants to be her bra, going by earlier statements. 

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Not at all surprised at this announcement . Clearly it’s a replica of Boris without the dates  just in case she gets her fingers burnt .  The big concern was her view that by summer there will be “ lesser restrictions “ unlike  Boris assertion there will be none . Worrying . 

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Nookie Bear

From the BBC: "The final phase of the return to school would take place on 5 April, when it is hoped to lift the stay at home restrictions."

 

Except that Edinburgh schools are on holiday from Fri 2nd April so, in reality, many secondary school kids (i assume S1-3) will not be returning until Tue 20nd April.

 

That's disgraceful.

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17 minutes ago, Brian Dundas said:

So a wee bit slower than England as everyone was predicting and yet people are losing their shit about it - 

 

She said there would be a "progressive easing" of restrictions before then, with four people from two households allowed to meet outdoors from 15 March.

All primary and more secondary school pupils could return from that date.

It is hoped to lift the stay at home restriction on 5 April.

 

Wee bit slower than England :rofl:

 

Batshit mental you lot! 

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18 minutes ago, Brian Dundas said:

So a wee bit slower than England as everyone was predicting and yet people are losing their shit about it - 

 

She said there would be a "progressive easing" of restrictions before then, with four people from two households allowed to meet outdoors from 15 March.

All primary and more secondary school pupils could return from that date.

It is hoped to lift the stay at home restriction on 5 April.

Not much use when you cannot go out your LA boundary to meet up (outside) with your family all of 15 miles away!!

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5 minutes ago, redjambo said:

 

Whether you like her or not, you have to admit that she's had a tough time of it all. I wouldn't want to be in her shoes anyway.

Neither would I she’s about a size 4 ruin my feet 

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29 minutes ago, Salad Fingers said:

 

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A tube of lipstick must last her about 10 years. 

 

Re Covid she has a thankless task and hopefully the vaccines do their bit. 

 

I'm all for the reasonably cautious approach.

 

 

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3fingersreid

I’m not a supporter of her or her party but I think NS has made the correct decision in going slowly slowly . No point in opening up only to go back the way again . 
I’m not a supporter of him or his party but BJ has said he hopes things are back to normal by 21st June , however he did also say that was IF everything was still okay , although the MSM have chosen to ignore that part of his statement . 
 

I can’t believe that people are booking holidays at the rate they are , one they might not get there and if they did how would they feel about bringing anything back ? Need a break stay in Britain and help our economy recover . 

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Malinga the Swinga
3 minutes ago, Barack said:

GinRummy wants to be her bra, going by earlier statements. 

Think a wee bit sick just came up when I read that. 

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Disappointed but completely surprised. Hopefully the data supports opening up slightly quicker but history as shown she will always be overly cautious. 
 

Did she give a date of 5th April for reminder of secondary schools returning ? 

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37 minutes ago, Brighton Jambo said:

It’s so clearly not the only implication though is it.  His point was that no furlough would mean a faster reopening than he thinks NS intends to do.  
 

But you knew that.  

 

Scrapping furlough would not lead to NS instantly scrapping all restrictions.


But you knew that.

 

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2 minutes ago, Nookie Bear said:

From the BBC: "The final phase of the return to school would take place on 5 April, when it is hoped to lift the stay at home restrictions."

 

Except that Edinburgh schools are on holiday from Fri 2nd April so, in reality, many secondary school kids (i assume S1-3) will not be returning until Tue 20nd April.

 

That's disgraceful.


That’s would I thought. Pretty ignorant or she thinks people won’t notice. 🙄

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26 minutes ago, LMc said:

Having a look, were only a couple weeks behind the dates of England opening up I think. Non-essential retail and outdoor hospitality middle of April which would be similar to level 3 would it not? Which is penciled in for end of April?

Outdoor hospitality is closed at Level 3.  You will need Level 1 before you can have a beer in a pub.

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29 minutes ago, LMc said:

Having a look, were only a couple weeks behind the dates of England opening up I think. Non-essential retail and outdoor hospitality middle of April which would be similar to level 3 would it not? Which is penciled in for end of April?

 

 


Level 3 is reduced hours and no alcohol. Not much of a boost for hospitality. 

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17 minutes ago, redjambo said:

 

The Beeb summary is:

She said there would be a "progressive easing" of restrictions before then, with four people from two households allowed to meet outdoors from 15 March.

All primary and more secondary school pupils could return from that date.

It is hoped to lift the stay at home restriction on 5 April.

 

I assume I've misunderstood something here but I thought the "stay at home" instruction meant you had to stay at home unless it was for an essential purpose like shopping, medical appointments or similar: Is exercise the only purpose you can meet up with others under the "stay at home" guidelines?

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Malinga the Swinga
2 minutes ago, Dazo said:


That’s would I thought. Pretty ignorant or she thinks people won’t notice. 🙄

So are Fife and Glasgow schools. 

No point in losing sleep over this, look forward to August 21. Hearts back in top league and fans back in Tynecastle and defending Scottish Cup after our trouncing if Rangers in this seasons final. 

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Governor Tarkin
14 minutes ago, redjambo said:

 

Whether you like her or not, you have to admit that she's had a tough time of it all. I wouldn't want to be in her shoes anyway.

 

No danger. I feel quite sorry for her tbh.

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Mikey1874

There will hopefully be some spectacular improvements in data soon. As the vaccines kick in. Most of the improvements so far seem due to lockdown. 

 

I thought Boris should have been more cautious re dates. He has more pressure inside his party. A lot of unhappy people who just booked holidays. 

 

Even Boris has been saying this has to be the final lockdown with no going back. 

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Brian Dundas
9 minutes ago, JyTees said:

 

Wee bit slower than England :rofl:

 

Batshit mental you lot! 

Sorry, what lot am I a part of? The one that doesn't go mental at an entirely predictable statement from the FM? 

 

BTW The Scottish Government does have form for speeding up the lifting of restrictions when the numbers show it is safe to do so......

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5 minutes ago, Footballfirst said:

Outdoor hospitality is closed at Level 3.  You will need Level 1 before you can have a beer in a pub.

 

Outdoor and indoor hospitality is open in level three you just can't serve alcohol 🤷‍♂️

 

You can't have a beer in a pub in England till mid May which would align with level 2 up here albeit with a meal our outside without meal.

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3 minutes ago, 3fingersreid said:

I’m not a supporter of her or her party but I think NS has made the correct decision in going slowly slowly . No point in opening up only to go back the way again . 
I’m not a supporter of him or his party but BJ has said he hopes things are back to normal by 21st June , however he did also say that was IF everything was still okay , although the MSM have chosen to ignore that part of his statement . 
 

I can’t believe that people are booking holidays at the rate they are , one they might not get there and if they did how would they feel about bringing anything back ? Need a break stay in Britain and help our economy recover . 

 

I booked a holiday to Turkey for end of June in October last year before things got worse again.  Well accommodation only, not the flights. I'm not going to bother with it though in case there are travel corridors and isolating rules etc still in place by then.  We're one of the leading countries in the world in terms of vaccination process so there are going to be many countries way behind.

 

Thing that annoys me though is the price of staying on these shores.  Decent self catering accommodation for a family of 4 is outrageous.  

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The Real Maroonblood
53 minutes ago, Barack said:

I'm not having a go here. But she's saying a lot here without saying much. Or is it me?

 

:lol:

:jjyay:

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7 minutes ago, Dazo said:


Level 3 is reduced hours and no alcohol. Not much of a boost for hospitality. 

 

And it's only outdoors in England from April untill May 🤷‍♂️ When the pubs open indoors we should be in level 2 when the pubs are open for indoors and outdoors here.

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1 minute ago, JamesM48 said:

Not at all surprised at this announcement . Clearly it’s a replica of Boris without the dates  just in case she gets her fingers burnt .  The big concern was her view that by summer there will be “ lesser restrictions “ unlike  Boris assertion there will be none . Worrying . 


You are a treat 🤣

 

I wouldn’t say worrying. Hancock went against what BJ said yesterday. BJ reiterating today its almost a guarantee itll be like Covey never visited after 21st June. If anything delays that its going to be really damaging to peoples mental health. Its just a different approach. Enzo , you , Jonesy have a different outlook in terms of things and thats fair enough. At Times it is worth arguing about approaches. These two approaches are broadly similar.

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41 minutes ago, Nucky Thompson said:

What a fecking damp squib :vangry:

Squid!

 

Harrumph!

 

:lol:

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The ordinary tradesman rammed right up the arse again I see. If your wanting new floors, doors, painting, plasterwork, kitchens & bathrooms you will just have to wait. If your lucky your local tradesman may still be in a fit state to do it in May. But if yer wean is getting on yer tits you can send it off to get a dose of COVID at school. 

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2 minutes ago, Tambo_The_Jambo said:

The ordinary tradesman rammed right up the arse again I see. If your wanting new floors, doors, painting, plasterwork, kitchens & bathrooms you will just have to wait. If your lucky your local tradesman may still be in a fit state to do it in May. But if yer wean is getting on yer tits you can send it off to get a dose of COVID at school. 

If you want to start working again you better hope that kids don't start getting a "dose of COVID" at school.

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2 minutes ago, Tambo_The_Jambo said:

The ordinary tradesman rammed right up the arse again I see. If your wanting new floors, doors, painting, plasterwork, kitchens & bathrooms you will just have to wait. If your lucky your local tradesman may still be in a fit state to do it in May. But if yer wean is getting on yer tits you can send it off to get a dose of COVID at school. 

Not sure where you're based but in our street we've had houses with tradesman working in them for months....we've got painters confirmed coming in for our ceilings next week....so not really seeing tradesman work being curtailed?

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8 minutes ago, Mikey1874 said:

 

 

I don't get the essential retail bit. Surely it is, or isn't essential? What's going to change that will make more retailers become essential?

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1 minute ago, Gards said:

Not sure where you're based but in our street we've had houses with tradesman working in them for months....we've got painters confirmed coming in for our ceilings next week....so not really seeing tradesman work being curtailed?

 

Think Tambo is trying to follow the rules though in fairness to him.

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Just now, Taffin said:

 

Think Tambo is trying to follow the rules though in fairness to him.

Well there's plenty fairly well established companies who aren't then.

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2 minutes ago, Tambo_The_Jambo said:

The ordinary tradesman rammed right up the arse again I see. If your wanting new floors, doors, painting, plasterwork, kitchens & bathrooms you will just have to wait. If your lucky your local tradesman may still be in a fit state to do it in May. But if yer wean is getting on yer tits you can send it off to get a dose of COVID at school. 

Why are so many tradesman just working as normal. I know a boy that fits blinds for a living, he’s been really busy. Boy at works old man is a kitchen fitter and he’s been working. Painter and decorator along the road from me is working.

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13 minutes ago, Byyy The Light said:

 

I booked a holiday to Turkey for end of June in October last year before things got worse again.  Well accommodation only, not the flights. I'm not going to bother with it though in case there are travel corridors and isolating rules etc still in place by then.  We're one of the leading countries in the world in terms of vaccination process so there are going to be many countries way behind.

 

Thing that annoys me though is the price of staying on these shores.  Decent self catering accommodation for a family of 4 is outrageous.  

Buy a tent and wild camping is your friend... fish for yer tea , squirrel for breakfast , rabbit for lunch , deer/coo for sunday lunch 👌🏻

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