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10 minutes ago, **** the SPFL said:

This could well be her last briefing of any sort if Salmond has the smoking gun she'll be punted quickly. if she goes back to tiers we're all doomed like some have said Sunak may hold the key if he withdraws funding to the devolved nations. No dates to be mentioned seemingly jesus wept 

 

I don't get this negativity about tiers. Different parts of the country will have different Covid profiles - it makes sense that they are treated differently. It's almost guaranteed that we will move back to them in some form or another so it's as if some on this thread are just setting themselves up to be angry again. There are plenty things to get more angry about that than a focussed and compartmentalised approach to defeating Covid.

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12 minutes ago, Weakened Offender said:

 

I require no assistance from anyone who sees James as a critical thinker. 😊

WO, if you or any of your fellow lockdown disciples are struggling to move through the cerebral gearbox during the pandemic, Jonesy, James or any of the team will be able to help: [email protected]👍

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13 minutes ago, Ray Gin said:

Thank **** there's not going to be dates announced. Imagine the tears and snotters from the usual suspects if one of the proposed dates in the timeline isn't met.


How do people make any sort of arrangements without dates ? Return to school ? Return to kids/adults sports and activities ? 

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1 minute ago, Nucky Thompson said:

There needs to be some dates. When will the stay at home order finish?

She has already given dates anyway. 22 February for some children to go back to school and hopefully 15th March for others

 

I'd expect phases to be given along with cases/hospital numbers reaching a certain level, rather than attempting to predict dates on when the data may meet that target.

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Scottish numbers: 23 February 2021

Summary

  • 655 new cases of COVID-19 reported [-60]
  • 16,031 new tests for COVID-19 that reported results – 4.8% of these were positive [+3,672; -1.8%]
  • 56 new reported death(s) of people who have tested positive [+56]
  • 93 people were in intensive care yesterday with recently confirmed COVID-19 [-6]
  • 1,076 people were in hospital yesterday with recently confirmed COVID-19 [-65]
  • 1,465,241 people have received the first dose of the Covid vaccination and 43,203 have received their second dose [+19,753; +5,861]
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Just now, Dazo said:


How do people make sort of arrangements without dates ? Return to school ? Return to kids/adults sports and activities ? 

 

You'll get notice ahead of these things happening. Trying to predict dates several months down the line is a stab in the dark.

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3 minutes ago, Enzo Chiefo said:

WO, if you or any of your fellow lockdown disciples are struggling to move through the cerebral gearbox during the pandemic, Jonesy, James or any of the team will be able to help: [email protected]👍

 

😁

 

I'm doing grand pal, I'm not a fragile idiot like the twojays. 😎

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4 minutes ago, Dazo said:


How do people make any sort of arrangements without dates ? Return to school ? Return to kids/adults sports and activities ? 

 

Is that an actual serious question? 

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Just now, Ray Gin said:

 

You'll get notice ahead of these things happening. Trying to predict dates several months down the line is a stab in the dark.


So we will get dates then. Indicator dates really shouldn’t be an issue unless you are just looking to moan for moaning sake. Parents, volunteers and businesses owners etc need dates to work to imo. 

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2 minutes ago, redjambo said:

Scottish numbers: 23 February 2021

Summary

  • 655 new cases of COVID-19 reported [-60]
  • 16,031 new tests for COVID-19 that reported results – 4.8% of these were positive [+3,672; -1.8%]
  • 56 new reported death(s) of people who have tested positive [+56]
  • 93 people were in intensive care yesterday with recently confirmed COVID-19 [-6]
  • 1,076 people were in hospital yesterday with recently confirmed COVID-19 [-65]
  • 1,465,241 people have received the first dose of the Covid vaccination and 43,203 have received their second dose [+19,753; +5,861]

Decent numbers except the deaths

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1 minute ago, Brian Dundas said:

I think there is no harm in at least giving a nod to the dates mentioned by the PM as a guideline we hope to work to, let's show some unity in the devolved governments for once. 


Absolutely this. The time to try and be different or score points is over. The PM made a great start to the process yesterday I was optimistic she would follow on from that. 

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4 minutes ago, Weakened Offender said:

 

Is that an actual serious question? 


Of course it is. How do businesses plan without dates ? I understand you wouldn’t think or care about that but businesses can’t just open at the flick of a switch. That is only one side of the many issues Of not having dates. 

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12 minutes ago, redjambo said:

 

I don't get this negativity about tiers. Different parts of the country will have different Covid profiles - it makes sense that they are treated differently. It's almost guaranteed that we will move back to them in some form or another so it's as if some on this thread are just setting themselves up to be angry again. There are plenty things to get more angry about that than a focussed and compartmentalised approach to defeating Covid.

the negativity re the tiers is because she didn't stick to her own guidelines when Edinburgh should have been moved to tier two she didn't and kept us in tier three so don't trust her at all. 

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1 minute ago, **** the SPFL said:

the negativity re the tiers is because she didn't stick to her own guidelines when Edinburgh should have been moved to tier two she didn't and kept us in tier three so don't trust her at all. 

Unfortunately (for us in Edinburgh) she was proven right on that as the following week our numbers went way back up.

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1 minute ago, Gards said:

Unfortunately (for us in Edinburgh) she was proven right on that as the following week our numbers went way back up.


Weeks later she was right not week. 

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1 minute ago, Gards said:

Unfortunately (for us in Edinburgh) she was proven right on that as the following week our numbers went way back up.

agree but she didn't have a crystal ball and was down to not wanting travel from the west.

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7 minutes ago, Dazo said:


Of course it is. How do businesses plan without dates ? I understand you wouldn’t think or care about that but businesses can’t just open at the flick of a switch. That is only one side of the many issues Of not having dates. 

2 weeks is plenty notice. If they start giving 3 month notice then the dates are likely to shift and we end up with pissed of businesses full of stock and unable to open

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Before everyone starts foaming at the mouth, she has already said that these plans will move up if things keep going well and that these are just guide dates for now.

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Just now, **** the SPFL said:

Tiers from end of April your having a laugh feck all before that what a joker


What so lockdown for over another two months? 

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5 minutes ago, **** the SPFL said:

the negativity re the tiers is because she didn't stick to her own guidelines when Edinburgh should have been moved to tier two she didn't and kept us in tier three so don't trust her at all. 

 

I've already explained that decision on a couple of occasions, perhaps even to you, and how it was the right decision in the end. However, keeping Edinburgh and some other areas in the same tier as Glasgow and others in the West for such a long period wasn't correct, imo, due to the differing levels of Covid in both areas, but that's a separate issue and involved the requirement to move those in the West up a tier well before they actually were.

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The latest 7-day stats:

 

    Pre- 7-day per-100,000 cases                
Council Area Tier Lockdown Today Yesterday     21 Feb 20 Feb 19 Feb 18 Feb 17 Feb ... 20 Dec
Scotland     104 106 -2   103 105 106 105 108 ... 98
Falkirk 4 2 224 224 0   214 217 234 233 214 ... 60
North Lanarkshire 4 3 180 180 0   179 172 175 166 170 ... 119
West Lothian 4 3 180 188 -8   203 231 215 198 192 ... 83
East Ayrshire 4 3 178 179 -1   186 210 238 278 331 ... 153
West Dunbartonshire 4 3 175 187 -12   182 184 202 205 228 ... 120
Clackmannanshire 4 3 165 188 -23   188 198 213 221 231 ... 148
Glasgow City 4 3 142 145 -3   130 132 134 130 137 ... 129
Renfrewshire 4 3 140 154 -14   154 164 162 173 183 ... 116
Stirling 4 3 137 131 +6   137 150 158 158 163 ... 70
Midlothian 4 3 129 143 -14   135 118 111 105 110 ... 136
South Lanarkshire 4 3 128 129 -1   127 130 138 138 147 ... 120
East Renfrewshire 4 3 127 134 -7   118 137 136 111 106 ... 101
North Ayrshire 4 3 119 126 -7   128 124 126 122 132 ... 175
East Lothian 4 3 107 107 0   89 78 74 70 66 ... 148
Edinburgh City 4 3 97 95 +2   89 84 79 75 69 ... 109
East Dunbartonshire 4 3 93 86 +7   72 71 67 64 67 ... 70
Fife 4 3 67 73 -6   73 71 67 70 60 ... 97
South Ayrshire 4 3 67 66 +1   60 64 66 59 63 ... 98
Moray 4 1 64 75 -11   68 62 64 71 75 ... 13
Perth & Kinross 4 3 59 61 -2   63 56 64 64 56 ... 126
Dundee City 4 3 55 54 +1   53 53 53 50 43 ... 113
Highland 4/3 1 53 52 +1   54 52 51 53 61 ... 17
Angus 4 2 52 52 0   52 52 57 55 54 ... 37
Na h-Eileanan Siar 4 1 52 45 +7   52 64 67 109 105 ... 22
Dumfries & Galloway 4 1 51 53 -2   52 56 51 49 64 ... 32
Inverclyde 4 2 46 49 -3   57 54 62 84 94 ... 59
Argyll & Bute 4/3 2 41 42 -1   50 50 56 61 45 ... 29
Scottish Borders 4 1 39 41 -2   40 38 30 28 31 ... 85
Aberdeenshire 4 3 37 36 +1   31 34 40 37 40 ... 88
Aberdeen City 4 3 24 25 -1   26 30 35 32 36 ... 163
Orkney Islands 3 1 4 4 0   4 4 9 18 22 ... 0
Up Helly Aaland 3 1 0 0 0   0 0 0 0 0 ... 0
                           
                           
7-day averages                          
Tests     19297 19088 +209   18743 18151 18490 17912 18318 ... 16839
Positivity rate %     4.9 5.0 -0.1   5.0 5.2 5.2 5.4 5.4 ... 5.2
Hospital (non-ICU)     1088 1131 -43   1172 1215 1256 1290 1322 ... 975
ICU     98 99 -1   99 100 101 104 106 ... 50
Deaths     35 34 +1   34 33 36 41 40 ... 25
All Vaccinations     29044 30448 -1404   32766 36952 41139 45314 48864    
1st Dose     25320 27185 -1865   29738 34171 38932 43746 47786    
2nd Dose     3724 3263 +461   3028 2781 2207 1568 1078    
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1 minute ago, Barack said:

 

When are the Jocks being allowed tae Magaluf, woman...(!?) EH?! 

 

 

 

As soon as Westminster allows flights from england

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Just now, Barack said:

I'm not having a go here. But she's saying a lot here without saying much. Or is it me?

 

:lol:

 

Nah, I agree. A lot of waffle without much detail.

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Just now, redjambo said:

 

I've already explained that decision on a couple of occasions, perhaps even to you, and how it was the right decision in the end. However, keeping Edinburgh and some other areas in the same tier as Glasgow and others in the West for such a long period wasn't correct, imo, due to the differing levels of Covid in both areas, but that's a separate issue and involved the requirement to move those in the West up a tier well before they actually were.

i'm just pissed off at her moving the goal posts and worry that she will do the same again come the tier system. appreciate all your stats by the way and wasn't having a go at you

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2 minutes ago, Barack said:

I'm not having a go here. But she's saying a lot here without saying much. Or is it me?

 

:lol:

Her tits look really odd in that top

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So basically:-

 - We stay in lockdown/stay at home until end April

 - Schools will be opened up more up to that point

 - There may be some relaxation on worship and click and collect - but nothing really changes outside of that from now to end April

 - At end April we move back to levels....likely to be level 3

 - The above may be accelerated if numbers go better than expected.

 

Sound about right?

 

If so....sigh

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Primary school kids and, i think, secondary 4-6 back on 15th Mar but secondary 1-3 have to wait until 5th Apr?

 

Seems ridiculous to leave one group behind like that.

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5 minutes ago, **** the SPFL said:

agree but she didn't have a crystal ball and was down to not wanting travel from the west.

 

There were at least a couple of days of elevated stats coming from Edinburgh right before the decision, if I remember correctly. It didn't need a crystal ball, just good eyes. You really ought to overcome your bitterness on that decision, FtS, as it's clouding your judgement, imo. As I said, there are far more things that deserve getting angry about than that.

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1 minute ago, Gards said:

So basically:-

 - We stay in lockdown/stay at home until end April

 - Schools will be opened up more up to that point

 - There may be some relaxation on worship and click and collect - but nothing really changes outside of that from now to end April

 - At end April we move back to levels....likely to be level 3

 - The above may be accelerated if numbers go better than expected.

 

Sound about right?

 

If so....sigh


yep, that’s the size of it

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1 minute ago, Gards said:

So basically:-

 - We stay in lockdown/stay at home until end April

 - Schools will be opened up more up to that point

 - There may be some relaxation on worship and click and collect - but nothing really changes outside of that from now to end April

 - At end April we move back to levels....likely to be level 3

 - The above may be accelerated if numbers go better than expected.

 

Sound about right?

 

If so....sigh

 

That's pretty much what I got from it. 

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1 hour ago, Ray Gin said:

 

It's so clearly the implications of what he said. No furlough scheme = mass redundancies.

 

It’s so clearly not the only implication though is it.  His point was that no furlough would mean a faster reopening than he thinks NS intends to do.  
 

But you knew that.  

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7 minutes ago, Boy Daniel said:

No chance of us being in a lower level anytime soon. 
levels won’t be introduced until the end of April. 

So level 4 or 3 then another 3 weeks before reviewed Mid to late May - lets hope things improve and her or her replacement is forced to bring forward 

 

Well said Ruth - a real politician 

 

 

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1 minute ago, heartsfc_fan said:

Nothing about hospitality? Self catering holidays? Gyms?

Your are not allowed to enjoy yourself in Sturgeons Scotland.

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5 minutes ago, GinRummy said:

Her tits look really odd in that top

Please do not, under any circumstance, post a picture. 

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