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49 minutes ago, AlimOzturk said:

How did China recover without a vaccine? And why does nobody ever talk about this?

 

 

Proper lockdown instead of a half arsed one.

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The latest look at the council 7-day case rates. Both Midlothian and East Lothian tier 2 designations come into effect on Tuesday.

 

Council Area Tier 7-day per-100,000 cases
    Today Yesterday Change
Renfrewshire 4 260 262 -2
Glasgow City 4 235 257 -22
North Lanarkshire 4 235 233 2
South Lanarkshire 4 233 227 6
Stirling 4 210 224 -14
East Renfrewshire 4 195 195 0
West Lothian 4 193 187 6
Clackmannanshire 3 165 167 -2
East Dunbartonshire 4 161 179 -18
South Ayrshire 4 153 158 -5
East Ayrshire 4 152 168 -16
West Dunbartonshire 4 142 147 -5
North Ayrshire 3 124 120 4
Fife 3 116 124 -8
Perth and Kinross 3 116 113 3
Dundee City 3 102 108 -6
Midlothian 2 101 94 7
Inverclyde 3 99 94 5
Angus 3 88 93 -5
Falkirk 3 85 85 0
Edinburgh City 3 84 80 4
Scottish Borders 2 74 69 5
Aberdeenshire 2 64 70 -6
Aberdeen City 2 51 58 -7
East Lothian 2 48 61 -13
Dumfries and Galloway 2 34 31 3
Argyll and Bute 2 31 30 1
Moray 1 25 29 -4
Highland 1 19 22 -3
Shetland Islands 1 13 13 0
Orkney Islands 1 4 4 0
Na h-Eileanan Siar 1 0 4 -4
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22 hours ago, Dawnrazor said:

Does anyone know the death rates between Scotland and England, who's doing better/worse?

 

Deaths Past 7 days (per 1 million population):

 

Wales 53

England 44.8

N Ireland 40.7

Scotland 39.4

 

Cases past 7 days (per 1 million):

England 2462.3

Wales 2083.5

N Ireland  1,709

Scotland 1,393.5

 

https://www.travellingtabby.com/uk-coronavirus-tracker/

 

 

 

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37 minutes ago, redjambo said:

The latest look at the council 7-day case rates. Both Midlothian and East Lothian tier 2 designations come into effect on Tuesday.

 

Council Area Tier 7-day per-100,000 cases
    Today Yesterday Change
Renfrewshire 4 260 262 -2
Glasgow City 4 235 257 -22
North Lanarkshire 4 235 233 2
South Lanarkshire 4 233 227 6
Stirling 4 210 224 -14
East Renfrewshire 4 195 195 0
West Lothian 4 193 187 6
Clackmannanshire 3 165 167 -2
East Dunbartonshire 4 161 179 -18
South Ayrshire 4 153 158 -5
East Ayrshire 4 152 168 -16
West Dunbartonshire 4 142 147 -5
North Ayrshire 3 124 120 4
Fife 3 116 124 -8
Perth and Kinross 3 116 113 3
Dundee City 3 102 108 -6
Midlothian 2 101 94 7
Inverclyde 3 99 94 5
Angus 3 88 93 -5
Falkirk 3 85 85 0
Edinburgh City 3 84 80 4
Scottish Borders 2 74 69 5
Aberdeenshire 2 64 70 -6
Aberdeen City 2 51 58 -7
East Lothian 2 48 61 -13
Dumfries and Galloway 2 34 31 3
Argyll and Bute 2 31 30 1
Moray 1 25 29 -4
Highland 1 19 22 -3
Shetland Islands 1 13 13 0
Orkney Islands 1 4 4 0
Na h-Eileanan Siar 1 0 4 -4


Midlothian still worryingly high. Has increased in numbers above City of Edinburgh now.

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39 minutes ago, redjambo said:

The latest look at the council 7-day case rates. Both Midlothian and East Lothian tier 2 designations come into effect on Tuesday.

 

Council Area Tier 7-day per-100,000 cases
    Today Yesterday Change
Renfrewshire 4 260 262 -2
Glasgow City 4 235 257 -22
North Lanarkshire 4 235 233 2
South Lanarkshire 4 233 227 6
Stirling 4 210 224 -14
East Renfrewshire 4 195 195 0
West Lothian 4 193 187 6
Clackmannanshire 3 165 167 -2
East Dunbartonshire 4 161 179 -18
South Ayrshire 4 153 158 -5
East Ayrshire 4 152 168 -16
West Dunbartonshire 4 142 147 -5
North Ayrshire 3 124 120 4
Fife 3 116 124 -8
Perth and Kinross 3 116 113 3
Dundee City 3 102 108 -6
Midlothian 2 101 94 7
Inverclyde 3 99 94 5
Angus 3 88 93 -5
Falkirk 3 85 85 0
Edinburgh City 3 84 80 4
Scottish Borders 2 74 69 5
Aberdeenshire 2 64 70 -6
Aberdeen City 2 51 58 -7
East Lothian 2 48 61 -13
Dumfries and Galloway 2 34 31 3
Argyll and Bute 2 31 30 1
Moray 1 25 29 -4
Highland 1 19 22 -3
Shetland Islands 1 13 13 0
Orkney Islands 1 4 4 0
Na h-Eileanan Siar 1 0 4 -4

 

 

Midlothian may well see that move cancelled after the last couple of days of rises.

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Just now, Heartsmad1874 said:


Midlothian still worryingly high. Has increased in numbers above City of Edinburgh now.

 

Yup. When I started these charts 5 days ago, Midlothian was reading 66, so that's a fair jump to 101. Of course there are other indicators, and it depends on how many of the cases there are community-based etc., but if the situation in Midlothian doesn't improve by Tuesday, it's going to be a tough call by the SG.

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4 minutes ago, Heartsmad1874 said:

Good to see the SG policing the essential travel 👍🏻

D75E1D86-147D-4F10-8A93-282534B7AE37.jpeg

 

"COVID LATEST PLEASE SHARE

SCOTTISH INDEPENDENCE MOVEMENT
EDINBURGH CAVALCADE UPDATE
 
Scottish Government Guidelines and Tier Restrictions have caused us change our plans from a Cavalcade to the Capital to a series of Nationwide Localised Convoys meaning we will now be staying within out local areas and not passing between Tiers. We have been in constant communication with authorities and Police Scotland throughout the planning of the event and they agreed with our decision to change to local convoys to ensure increased levels of public safety while following government guidance."

 

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25 minutes ago, redjambo said:

 

Yup. When I started these charts 5 days ago, Midlothian was reading 66, so that's a fair jump to 101. Of course there are other indicators, and it depends on how many of the cases there are community-based etc., but if the situation in Midlothian doesn't improve by Tuesday, it's going to be a tough call by the SG.

Last 7 days positivity rate is 5.1%. So Slightly over the 5% for tier 2.  

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48 minutes ago, Ray Gin said:

 

"COVID LATEST PLEASE SHARE

SCOTTISH INDEPENDENCE MOVEMENT
EDINBURGH CAVALCADE UPDATE
 
Scottish Government Guidelines and Tier Restrictions have caused us change our plans from a Cavalcade to the Capital to a series of Nationwide Localised Convoys meaning we will now be staying within out local areas and not passing between Tiers. We have been in constant communication with authorities and Police Scotland throughout the planning of the event and they agreed with our decision to change to local convoys to ensure increased levels of public safety while following government guidance."

 

Still not really essential though eh 

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1 hour ago, Heartsmad1874 said:

Good to see the SG policing the essential travel 👍🏻

D75E1D86-147D-4F10-8A93-282534B7AE37.jpeg

 

Cavalcade?

 

Used to enjoy Glen Michael's Cartoon Cavalcade, when I was a kid.

 

He's still alive as well, 94 now.

 

 

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5 minutes ago, Jambo-Jimbo said:

 

Cavalcade?

 

Used to enjoy Glen Michael's Cartoon Cavalcade, when I was a kid.

 

He's still alive as well, 94 now.

 

 

 

Paladin the lamp was the worst sidekick ever. :lol: 

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1 hour ago, Ray Gin said:

 

Paladin the lamp was the worst sidekick ever. :lol: 

I hope younger posters on here don't think that's slang for anything😄

 

Anyway,I'm away to youtube Glen Michael's cavalcade now,I'll worry about covid tomorrow...

 

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Malinga the Swinga
6 hours ago, AlimOzturk said:

How did China recover without a vaccine? And why does nobody ever talk about this?

 

 

Since they designed and built the virus, they had vaccine from day 1. Only kidding(just joking). 

 

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5 hours ago, redjambo said:

The latest look at the council 7-day case rates. Both Midlothian and East Lothian tier 2 designations come into effect on Tuesday.

 

Council Area Tier 7-day per-100,000 cases
    Today Yesterday Change
Renfrewshire 4 260 262 -2
Glasgow City 4 235 257 -22
North Lanarkshire 4 235 233 2
South Lanarkshire 4 233 227 6
Stirling 4 210 224 -14
East Renfrewshire 4 195 195 0
West Lothian 4 193 187 6
Clackmannanshire 3 165 167 -2
East Dunbartonshire 4 161 179 -18
South Ayrshire 4 153 158 -5
East Ayrshire 4 152 168 -16
West Dunbartonshire 4 142 147 -5
North Ayrshire 3 124 120 4
Fife 3 116 124 -8
Perth and Kinross 3 116 113 3
Dundee City 3 102 108 -6
Midlothian 2 101 94 7
Inverclyde 3 99 94 5
Angus 3 88 93 -5
Falkirk 3 85 85 0
Edinburgh City 3 84 80 4
Scottish Borders 2 74 69 5
Aberdeenshire 2 64 70 -6
Aberdeen City 2 51 58 -7
East Lothian 2 48 61 -13
Dumfries and Galloway 2 34 31 3
Argyll and Bute 2 31 30 1
Moray 1 25 29 -4
Highland 1 19 22 -3
Shetland Islands 1 13 13 0
Orkney Islands 1 4 4 0
Na h-Eileanan Siar 1 0 4 -4

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59 minutes ago, Malinga the Swinga said:

Since they designed and built the virus, they had vaccine from day 1. Only kidding(just joking). 

 

Kung Flu ye say 🤔

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There's a photo papers this morning of Princes Street showing it as busy with description of heaving. Find it hard to believe it was taken on Saturday. 

I walked to Prices street yesterday, got there about 10.30 and left about 2pm. Prince's Street was empty, shops were quiet and barely anyone walking about. The wife and I were only people in Pakora bar where we had lunch. 

All I can think us media desperate to portray issues where none exist. 

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Scottish numbers: 22 November 2020

Summary

  • 844 new cases of COVID-19 reported [-43]
  • 7 new reported death(s) of people who have tested positive (noting that Register Offices are now generally closed at weekends) [-30]
  • 95 people were in intensive care yesterday with recently confirmed COVID-19 [-5]
  • 1,170 people were in hospital yesterday with recently confirmed COVID-19 [-23]
  • 19,664 new tests for COVID-19 that reported results – 5.4% of these were positive [+2,419; -0.5%]
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Per-board, per-100,000 case stats:

 

Scotland 15 [-1].

 

Lanarkshire 27 [-10], Greater Glasgow 26 [+6], Lothian 13 [-2], Ayrshire 12 [-4], Fife 12 [-2], Tayside 12 [+1].

 

All the others: less than 10.

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36 minutes ago, Boy Daniel said:

I had the dog down to the beach this morning at Longniddry bents. The car park was a bit busier than normal, but the Sheriffhall roundabout was a dream. Straight up to the lights instead of the usual tailbacks 

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Are the rules in Scotland based on which tier you live in or which tier you are currently in when in relation to travelling around?

 

Thinking of doing some travel/staycationing when I'm next home.

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9 minutes ago, Taffin said:

Are the rules in Scotland based on which tier you live in or which tier you are currently in when in relation to travelling around?

 

Thinking of doing some travel/staycationing when I'm next home.

 

Found the answer. As long as you just travel straight through a restricted area then it's all good.

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The latest 7-day infection rates per council. Midlothian and East Lothian tier 2 designations expected on Tuesday.

 

Council Area Tier 7-day per-100,000 cases
    Today Yesterday Change
Renfrewshire 4 250 260 -10
North Lanarkshire 4 228 235 -7
South Lanarkshire 4 228 233 -5
Glasgow City 4 218 235 -17
East Renfrewshire 4 191 195 -4
West Lothian 4 183 193 -10
Stirling 4 178 210 -32
Clackmannanshire 3 150 165 -15
East Dunbartonshire 4 143 161 -18
East Ayrshire 4 141 152 -11
West Dunbartonshire 4 141 142 -1
South Ayrshire 4 126 153 -27
North Ayrshire 3 123 124 -1
Perth and Kinross 3 115 116 -1
Fife 3 109 116 -7
Dundee City 3 108 102 6
Midlothian 2 97 101 -4
Edinburgh City 3 89 84 5
Inverclyde 3 89 99 -10
Angus 3 82 88 -6
Falkirk 3 81 85 -4
Scottish Borders 2 65 74 -9
Aberdeenshire 2 64 64 0
East Lothian 2 57 48 9
Aberdeen City 2 52 51 1
Dumfries and Galloway 2 33 34 -1
Argyll and Bute 2 31 31 0
Moray 1 20 25 -5
Highland 1 17 19 -2
Shetland Islands 1 13 13 0
Orkney Islands 1 4 4 0
Na h-Eileanan Siar 1 0 0 0
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The Real Maroonblood
5 minutes ago, redjambo said:

The latest 7-day infection rates per council. Midlothian and East Lothian tier 2 designations expected on Tuesday.

 

Council Area Tier 7-day per-100,000 cases
    Today Yesterday Change
Renfrewshire 4 250 260 -10
North Lanarkshire 4 228 235 -7
South Lanarkshire 4 228 233 -5
Glasgow City 4 218 235 -17
East Renfrewshire 4 191 195 -4
West Lothian 4 183 193 -10
Stirling 4 178 210 -32
Clackmannanshire 3 150 165 -15
East Dunbartonshire 4 143 161 -18
East Ayrshire 4 141 152 -11
West Dunbartonshire 4 141 142 -1
South Ayrshire 4 126 153 -27
North Ayrshire 3 123 124 -1
Perth and Kinross 3 115 116 -1
Fife 3 109 116 -7
Dundee City 3 108 102 6
Midlothian 2 97 101 -4
Edinburgh City 3 89 84 5
Inverclyde 3 89 99 -10
Angus 3 82 88 -6
Falkirk 3 81 85 -4
Scottish Borders 2 65 74 -9
Aberdeenshire 2 64 64 0
East Lothian 2 57 48 9
Aberdeen City 2 52 51 1
Dumfries and Galloway 2 33 34 -1
Argyll and Bute 2 31 31 0
Moray 1 20 25 -5
Highland 1 17 19 -2
Shetland Islands 1 13 13 0
Orkney Islands 1 4 4 0
Na h-Eileanan Siar 1 0 0 0

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16 minutes ago, redjambo said:

The latest 7-day infection rates per council. Midlothian and East Lothian tier 2 designations expected on Tuesday.

 

Council Area Tier 7-day per-100,000 cases
    Today Yesterday Change
Renfrewshire 4 250 260 -10
North Lanarkshire 4 228 235 -7
South Lanarkshire 4 228 233 -5
Glasgow City 4 218 235 -17
East Renfrewshire 4 191 195 -4
West Lothian 4 183 193 -10
Stirling 4 178 210 -32
Clackmannanshire 3 150 165 -15
East Dunbartonshire 4 143 161 -18
East Ayrshire 4 141 152 -11
West Dunbartonshire 4 141 142 -1
South Ayrshire 4 126 153 -27
North Ayrshire 3 123 124 -1
Perth and Kinross 3 115 116 -1
Fife 3 109 116 -7
Dundee City 3 108 102 6
Midlothian 2 97 101 -4
Edinburgh City 3 89 84 5
Inverclyde 3 89 99 -10
Angus 3 82 88 -6
Falkirk 3 81 85 -4
Scottish Borders 2 65 74 -9
Aberdeenshire 2 64 64 0
East Lothian 2 57 48 9
Aberdeen City 2 52 51 1
Dumfries and Galloway 2 33 34 -1
Argyll and Bute 2 31 31 0
Moray 1 20 25 -5
Highland 1 17 19 -2
Shetland Islands 1 13 13 0
Orkney Islands 1 4 4 0
Na h-Eileanan Siar 1 0 0 0

 

I think Midlothian are going to miss out.

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2 minutes ago, frankblack said:

 

I think Midlothian are going to miss out.


So you’ve got a pub in Midlothian and have been busy getting things ready for the last week to open up to be told the day before sorry you can’t open anymore. 🙄

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I was driving last night, and passed the pub O'Connors (used to be Stags Head) in Broughton.  It was doing the takeaway pints thing except there were up to 40 what looked like students bunched together with no social distancing or face masks in big groups on the pavement outside.

 

This cluster**** is what happens when the Scottish Government has lost the plot and closed hospitality without justification with its strict controls inside and track-and-trace requirements.

 

The same thing will be happening with other pubs around Edinburgh and the rest of the country.

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Nucky Thompson
1 hour ago, jonesy said:

Hope you didn't cross any council boundaries. The very confused police will be after ye. 😛 

Forget council boundaries, I'll be crossing the border when England opens up on the 2nd December.

I've got something important to do in Berwick, so it's classed as an essential journey 

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2 minutes ago, theshed said:


So you’ve got a pub in Midlothian and have been busy getting things ready for the last week to open up to be told the day before sorry you can’t open anymore. 🙄

 

Yes, exactly that.  Remember its the Scottish Government we are talking about who don't care about the economy or following the data.

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2 minutes ago, frankblack said:

I was driving last night, and passed the pub O'Connors (used to be Stags Head) in Broughton.  It was doing the takeaway pints thing except there were up to 40 what looked like students bunched together with no social distancing or face masks in big groups on the pavement outside.

 

This cluster**** is what happens when the Scottish Government has lost the plot and closed hospitality without justification with its strict controls inside and track-and-trace requirements.

 

The same thing will be happening with other pubs around Edinburgh and the rest of the country.

When you get this it just endorses the shambles that the hospitality has been treated.

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12 minutes ago, The Real Maroonblood said:

When you get this it just endorses the shambles that the hospitality has been treated.

A lot of them will be fecked after this.

Furlough money only covers wages, they still have a lot more overheads

 

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Just now, Nucky Thompson said:

A lot of them will be fecked after this.

Furlough money only covers wages, they still have a lot more overheads

 

 

Exactly.  Saw an interview with a hairdresser in Glasgow on TV and he said that he was having to cover rent out of his own pocket when no income is coming in.

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The UK figures as a whole seem to be getting better.

18,662 new positive cases with 395,436 tests that reported results

People in hospital and ICU dropping a wee bit over the last week

Deaths still a wee bit high at 398, but 141 were added from a previous day

 

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5 minutes ago, Nucky Thompson said:

A lot of them will be fecked after this.

Furlough money only covers wages, they still have a lot more overheads

 

Exactly. 

My local pays about £2,000 a month for Sky and BT. Not sure it they can get that suspended and also the rates.

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27 minutes ago, frankblack said:

 

Yes, exactly that.  Remember its the Scottish Government we are talking about who don't care about the economy or following the data.

 

And yet you think Midlothian will "miss out". Why would they do that if they are not following the data?

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9 minutes ago, frankblack said:

 

Exactly.  Saw an interview with a hairdresser in Glasgow on TV and he said that he was having to cover rent out of his own pocket when no income is coming in.

 

Is there no support for businesses then? Who's to blame for that?

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There's talk that England are going to scrap the 10pm curfew on hospitality when they open on the 2nd December.

 

Will they do the same up here? I highly doubt it, we'll still be selling pop till 6pm

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12 minutes ago, coconut doug said:

 

Is there no support for businesses then? Who's to blame for that?

 

Whoever closes them without adequate compensation.

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16 minutes ago, coconut doug said:

 

And yet you think Midlothian will "miss out". Why would they do that if they are not following the data?

 

Look at Edinburgh City.

 

To quote The Eagles - you can check out any time but you can never leave (T3).

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Nucky Thompson
6 minutes ago, coconut doug said:

 

Is there no support for businesses then? Who's to blame for that?

It's the stupid rules on hospitality that Sturgeon and her cronies have introduced.

They are still allowed to open, but only to sell soft drinks till 6pm.

 

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20 minutes ago, Nucky Thompson said:

There's talk that England are going to scrap the 10pm curfew on hospitality when they open on the 2nd December.

 

Will they do the same up here? I highly doubt it, we'll still be selling pop till 6pm

The talk is sales will need to stop at 10 but diners and pub goers will have an hour to finish their drinks/meals. While to great at least it will stop the dumping of everyone on the street at the same time

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