Coronavirus Super Thread ( merged )

[The Internet]

 

Such a ****ing mess

[King prawn]

Wish the mods would empty the complete troll that is Natural Orders from this board. He’s been at it for months and it’s not even subtle anymore. 
 

 

[Weakened Offender]

4 minutes ago, Lord BJ said:

Twits twitting always amuses me. 
 

 

 

I get my kill at twats like you. Mouthing off online and still following ALL the guidance. Silly wee man. 

[pablo]

22 minutes ago, Mauricio Pinilla said:

 

Such a ****ing mess

 

Coming out of lock down was never going to be straightforward, but that tweet is rather amusing 😄 

[vegas-voss]

50 minutes ago, Lord BJ said:

It’s not really surprising I think Sturgeon said similar when announcing schools opening. You only have so much leeway with keeping the r number below one.

 

Schools being open is much more important that pubs, albeit it is peoples livliehood. I expect that we will see restrictions flexed and balanced over the coming months. 
 

 

I have always thought the pubs opening was just going to be a little boost and reprieve to morale be honest and come late Autumn they would be forced to shut again.As you say though its shit for peoples livliehoods.Its a stark reminder that we are far from getting back to normal though.So everyone should enjoy the little breathing space we have just now in their own way.

[Weakened Offender]

10 minutes ago, Lord BJ said:

I’m glad I’m adding to your happiness👍

 

That's really sweet. 😉

[ri Alban]

Going to the pub is classed a having a life. 🤣 Really adventurous. You're my heroes. 

[Weakened Offender]

8 minutes ago, ri Alban said:

Going to the pub is classed a having a life. 🤣 Really adventurous. You're my heroes. 

 

I'm going to the pub today too but I'm probably not going to spend the next week on the Kickback telling people that are worried about others what a real brave libertarian I am. 

[Governor Tarkin]

1 minute ago, Weakened Offender said:

 

I'm going to the pub today too but I'm probably not going to spend the next week on the Kickback telling people that are worried about others what a real brave libertarian I am. 

 

It would be a real shame if you picked up a spot of covid mate. Stay safe. 👍

[Weakened Offender]

2 minutes ago, Governor Tarkin said:

 

It would be a real shame if you picked up a spot of covid mate. Stay safe. 👍

 

Rattled 😎

[The Real Maroonblood]

16 minutes ago, ri Alban said:

Going to the pub is classed a having a life. 🤣 Really adventurous. You're my heroes. 

I usually visit my local at least 3 times a week.

In case there is another lockdown I’ll have to consider visiting my local daily.

😏

[jack D and coke]

1 hour ago, Natural Orders said:

If anyone is giving people from other households a lift in a car, then you all must wear face masks and keep windows open as it’s unlikely you will be 2m apart 

I put passengers in the boot so safe👍🏼

[The Real Maroonblood]

Just now, jack D and coke said:

I put passengers in the boot so safe👍🏼

Especially relatives.

[Governor Tarkin]

20 minutes ago, Weakened Offender said:

 

Rattled 😎

 

 

So we can add rattled to the growing list of words that you don't properly understand.

 

17 minutes ago, The Real Maroonblood said:

I usually visit my local at least 3 times a week.

In case there is another lockdown I’ll have to consider visiting my local daily.

😏

 

It's your duty.

[The Real Maroonblood]

2 minutes ago, Governor Tarkin said:

 

 

 

It's your duty.

Absolutely.

Helping the community financially.

Edited August 1, 2020 by The Real Maroonblood

[milky_26]

11 minutes ago, The Real Maroonblood said:

Absolutely.

Helping the community financially.

You are single handedly keeping them afloat

[The Real Maroonblood]

4 minutes ago, milky_26 said:

You are single handedly keeping them afloat

[JudyJudyJudy]

3 hours ago, jack D and coke said:

Sounds like a good day and night James. Happy days man👍🏼

Aye it was a good day and evening suffering slightly tiday . I'm sick to my teeth people comdemning others for going out and living . I really am. The amount of venom spewed on this and other sites by people. Against others living is pathetic . In particular on Facebook . One of my friends on Facebook is a nurse and she's batshit crazy now about people " breaking the rules " ! She used to be so measured and sensible but is comdemning anyone out and about . Like I said to her I have followed the rules and phases and went along with them . There is nothing wrong with people going out and living , the Govt. reassured us it's relatively safe and that's fine by me . The comment regarding Lord BJ was disgraceful on this 

Edited August 1, 2020 by JamesM48

[JudyJudyJudy]

1 hour ago, Lord BJ said:

I like to think that we will see this things stay open. I can understand peoples concerns with second spikes. 
 

However, a bit of common sense following guidance, utilisiation of test and trace strategies, improving treatments I think we will be able to continue to get more of our freedoms back. 
 

There will be a few bumps in the road but we will continue to adapt to live with this thing.

Yep 👍👍👍

[kila]

I'm back in the office now. Quite happy to be there, though there is a maze of one-way systems and automated hand sanitiser everywhere. To get to the kitchen to get the kettle brewing is a lap of the building, and if I want to go for a pish along the corridor while the kettle is on it's another lap.

 

Toilets are 1 in 1 out though there is a few scattered around it still drops capacity hugely.

[vegas-voss]

3 hours ago, Lord BJ said:

I like to think that we will see this things stay open. I can understand peoples concerns with second spikes. 
 

However, a bit of common sense following guidance, utilisiation of test and trace strategies, improving treatments I think we will be able to continue to get more of our freedoms back. 
 

There will be a few bumps in the road but we will continue to adapt to live with this thing.

Aye hope so.Not really sure this 2nd wave talk the media use is the right phrase to use either as you say its more spikes.

Edited August 1, 2020 by vegas-voss

[jack D and coke]

3 hours ago, ri Alban said:

Going to the pub is classed a having a life. 🤣 Really adventurous. You're my heroes. 

It practically is mine nowadays now I don’t have the football. That was what I looked forward to. Eating out, going out, football, just socialising. 
I work for myself, live on my own atm my weekend was what I was living for. I’ve always loved my weekends but when it’s taken away I needed it more. Count yourself lucky you have your mrs and your family around. 

[Nucky Thompson]

No deaths again in Scotland. 18 positive cases out of 15382 reported results.

260 in hospital with 3 in ICU 

[JudyJudyJudy]

8 minutes ago, Nucky Thompson said:

No deaths again in Scotland. 18 positive cases out of 15382 reported results.

260 in hospital with 3 in ICU 

Thanks for the update. The scare mongerering media will unduly report a " an alarming 50% increase in Scotland of those in ICU".    That's how they work 

[Nucky Thompson]

6 minutes ago, JamesM48 said:

Thanks for the update. The scare mongerering media will unduly report a " an alarming 50% increase in Scotland of those in ICU".    That's how they work 

I think it went up to 4 in ICU yesterday after being at 2 for a while.

 

The scaremongering is annoying. One sage guy gives his opinion that pubs may have to close so schools can open and it's all over the media as fact.

 

America is getting hit hard but when you look at the stats, New York were the first in April and had 443745 cases with 36000 deaths.

California, Florida and Texas have overtaken them with cases but only have 9k, 6k and 6k deaths.

Surely that tells you that it's not as deadly now as it was at the start

[Brighton Jambo]

5 hours ago, King prawn said:

Wish the mods would empty the complete troll that is Natural Orders from this board. He’s been at it for months and it’s not even subtle anymore. 
 

 

Totally agree, I gave up on this thread weeks ago but occasionally pop by just to see if anything of interest is happening and every single time, like today, Natural Orders is trolling about face masks.  I don’t know why mods haven’t acted but it’s been a big contribution to killing this thread.  

[graygo]

39 minutes ago, JamesM48 said:

Thanks for the update. The scare mongerering media will unduly report a " an alarming 50% increase in Scotland of those in ICU".    That's how they work 

 

25% decrease. 👍

[graygo]

19 minutes ago, Brighton Jambo said:

Totally agree, I gave up on this thread weeks ago but occasionally pop by just to see if anything of interest is happening and every single time, like today, Natural Orders is trolling about face masks.  I don’t know why mods haven’t acted but it’s been a big contribution to killing this thread.  

 

What's that about face masks? Are we meant to be wearing them?

 

[The Internet]

1 hour ago, Nucky Thompson said:

I think it went up to 4 in ICU yesterday after being at 2 for a while.

 

The scaremongering is annoying. One sage guy gives his opinion that pubs may have to close so schools can open and it's all over the media as fact.

 

America is getting hit hard but when you look at the stats, New York were the first in April and had 443745 cases with 36000 deaths.

California, Florida and Texas have overtaken them with cases but only have 9k, 6k and 6k deaths.

Surely that tells you that it's not as deadly now as it was at the start

 

Not necessarily. Back in March/April the volume of testing was nowhere near what it is now. Only the really serious cases got confirmed. I mean there's no way new york had 36k deaths out of only 450k cases, an 8% mortality rate? every chance that hundreds of thousands would have went unnoticed that would be confirmed now. America is just a lost cause anyway, shouldn't be basing any of our decisions on what's happening there. 

[Enzo Chiefo]

2 hours ago, Nucky Thompson said:

I think it went up to 4 in ICU yesterday after being at 2 for a while.

 

The scaremongering is annoying. One sage guy gives his opinion that pubs may have to close so schools can open and it's all over the media as fact.

 

America is getting hit hard but when you look at the stats, New York were the first in April and had 443745 cases with 36000 deaths.

California, Florida and Texas have overtaken them with cases but only have 9k, 6k and 6k deaths.

Surely that tells you that it's not as deadly now as it was at the start

NT, the scientists have to remain relevant though and the pharma companies need to protect their investment.  If deaths drop they move on to cases. If those reduce, they will warn of 2nd waves, spikes, bumps or whatever. You can see how this plays out. The "scientific" equivalent to bumping a thread on here

[Enzo Chiefo]

2 hours ago, Mauricio Pinilla said:

 

Not necessarily. Back in March/April the volume of testing was nowhere near what it is now. Only the really serious cases got confirmed. I mean there's no way new york had 36k deaths out of only 450k cases, an 8% mortality rate? every chance that hundreds of thousands would have went unnoticed that would be confirmed now. America is just a lost cause anyway, shouldn't be basing any of our decisions on what's happening there. 

But regardless of testing, deaths are lower. Is that not the point? . Testing has nothing to do with deaths. If there are 1m.infections, so what, as long as they don't end up in deaths. We're back to discussing the common cold,  or similar. I think that is the point.

[TheOak88]

7 minutes ago, Enzo Chiefo said:

But regardless of testing, deaths are lower. Is that not the point? . Testing has nothing to do with deaths. If there are 1m.infections, so what, as long as they don't end up in deaths. We're back to discussing the common cold,  or similar. I think that is the point.

 

We don’t know if there are medium to long term health complications that can be induced by CV. If there are then it’s not just about the death rate. 

[Enzo Chiefo]

Just now, TheOak88 said:

 

We don’t know if there are medium to long term health complications that can be induced by CV. If there are then it’s not just about the death rate. 

Well we don't...but that's pretty much the case for every illness. Again, that's an example of moving from one statistic to another to maintain the narrative that Covid is worse than it is. Why? 

[The Internet]

35 minutes ago, Enzo Chiefo said:

But regardless of testing, deaths are lower. Is that not the point? . Testing has nothing to do with deaths. If there are 1m.infections, so what, as long as they don't end up in deaths. We're back to discussing the common cold,  or similar. I think that is the point.

 

Yes, but the death rate is climbing in these other states and will likely continue to do so while this surge in cases is happening and beyond. People don't die instantly after being tested positive. Like I said though that's America, we are in a vastly different situation and shouldn't be suffering based on what's going on over there. 

[luckyBatistuta]

5 hours ago, jack D and coke said:

It practically is mine nowadays now I don’t have the football. That was what I looked forward to. Eating out, going out, football, just socialising. 
I work for myself, live on my own atm my weekend was what I was living for. I’ve always loved my weekends but when it’s taken away I needed it more. Count yourself lucky you have your mrs and your family around. 

You’ll always av your china plates to keep you company saan.

[Enzo Chiefo]

21 minutes ago, Mauricio Pinilla said:

 

Yes, but the death rate is climbing in these other states and will likely continue to do so while this surge in cases is happening and beyond. People don't die instantly after being tested positive. Like I said though that's America, we are in a vastly different situation and shouldn't be suffering based on what's going on over there. 

The death rates in USA are lower, despite cases rising.  The virus is weakening imo

[davemclaren]

8 minutes ago, Enzo Chiefo said:

The death rates in USA are lower, despite cases rising.  The virus is weakening imo

Or doctors are getting better at treating it and/or those catching it are mostly younger. 

[The Internet]

7 minutes ago, Enzo Chiefo said:

The death rates in USA are lower, despite cases rising.  The virus is weakening imo

 

I hope so man, but going back to my first point there's a hell of a lot more tests being done which is why cases are rising. Remains to be seen if deaths will follow but, and I'm not trying to be a doom monger or whatever, the daily deaths are rising pretty quickly in those states mentioned. 

[coconut doug]

12 minutes ago, Enzo Chiefo said:

The death rates in USA are lower, despite cases rising.  The virus is weakening imo

 

Many of the most vulnerable are now dead but the infection continues to spread. The death rate drops because there are more non symptomatic cases identified due to increased testing and because those who do get it are generally in better health than those who have already succumbed. There is some evidence now that the virus is resulting in long term health problems for many younger people. It is not killing them but it is debilitating them and so the need to control the virus remains acute. 

          As far as the USA is concerned the death rate is now very low in NY but high in Florida. The USA cannot be seen as a single entity.  

[Enzo Chiefo]

11 minutes ago, davemclaren said:

Or doctors are getting better at treating it and/or those catching it are mostly younger. 

Yes, I agree. Which would certainly be good Dave. Not the young people catching it.. but the better treatment I mean😎

[Enzo Chiefo]

2 minutes ago, coconut doug said:

 

Many of the most vulnerable are now dead but the infection continues to spread. The death rate drops because there are more non symptomatic cases identified due to increased testing and because those who do get it are generally in better health than those who have already succumbed. There is some evidence now that the virus is resulting in long term health problems for many younger people. It is not killing them but it is debilitating them and so the need to control the virus remains acute. 

          As far as the USA is concerned the death rate is now very low in NY but high in Florida. The USA cannot be seen as a single entity.  

I agree , but it's very much a minority. The vast majority of people who catch it experience no symptoms. A minority need hospital treatment and a very small minority have longer term effects. Which brings Covid down to the levels that are afflicted by numerous horrible illnesses out there. 

[frankblack]

30 minutes ago, Enzo Chiefo said:

I agree , but it's very much a minority. The vast majority of people who catch it experience no symptoms. A minority need hospital treatment and a very small minority have longer term effects. Which brings Covid down to the levels that are afflicted by numerous horrible illnesses out there. 

 

That is complete bollocks.  Don't let facts like excessive death rates get in the way of your rant.

[XB52]

1 hour ago, Enzo Chiefo said:

The death rates in USA are lower, despite cases rising.  The virus is weakening imo

Sorry but that's just wrong. USA is testing 4 times as much as it was weeks ago so you can't say cases are rising, just more getting caught. Deaths are rising rapidly now too so there is no evidence at all that the virus is weakening there. Having said that, the figures in Scotland or UK are nowhere like as bad as over there so for that we should be thankful 

[davemclaren]

45 minutes ago, Enzo Chiefo said:

Yes, I agree. Which would certainly be good Dave. Not the young people catching it.. but the better treatment I mean😎

Indeed. 

[The Real Maroonblood]

12 minutes ago, frankblack said:

 

That is complete bollocks.  Don't let facts like excessive death rates get in the way of your rant.

[jack D and coke]

1 hour ago, luckyBatistuta said:

You’ll always av your china plates to keep you company saan.

🥰☺️

[Enzo Chiefo]

22 minutes ago, frankblack said:

 

That is complete bollocks.  Don't let facts like excessive death rates get in the way of your rant.

I'm talking about NOW not in March. Casss are going up in the States but deaths are going down. More testing, better treatment and a weakening virus. There WERE excessive death rates but, using your own argument, the death rate, for weeks now,  in the UK has been below the 5 year average. Unfortunately,  a lot of elderly people, and those with other health issues,  succumbed to this virus , but may well have succumbed to another respiratory illness later in the year. The annual death rate will be the figure to compare.

[coconut doug]

27 minutes ago, frankblack said:

 

That is complete bollocks.  Don't let facts like excessive death rates get in the way of your rant.

 

We do not currently have excessive death rates in the UK.

[Unknown user]

32 minutes ago, coconut doug said:

 

We do not currently have excessive death rates in the UK.

Oh really? There were last time I checked, which week numbers are you comparing to previous years?

 

Edit - no worries, found it, last 5 weeks by the looks of it.

 

Edited August 1, 2020 by Smithee

[The Internet]

I remember UK deaths being below normal levels and that was a good few weeks ago.