Coronavirus Super Thread ( merged )

[ri Alban]

Can see it going nuts down south.

[JT1959]

LBC just announced Cummings at no 10 now

 

[Toxteth O'Grady]

2 minutes ago, JT1959 said:

LBC just announced Cummings at no 10 now

 

Collecting his tea mug and P45 I hope

[Nucky Thompson]

48 minutes ago, jambogaza said:

Where is the prime minister?

Planning to ease lockdown further in England from next Thursday. Garden parties, outside markets and National trust all opening.

Meanwhile we 'might' be able to drive a few miles to play golf 

[The Internet]

Reckon it's more likely that he's in bed with the nanny. 

[theshed]

This Cummings guy will probably leave his roll today but in a few months pop back up in another job, guy looks like he’s at retirement age and ain’t going to be short of a few pound so probably best for all he just walks today 

 

As I said will be in another job later in the year 

 

Edit..... just googled him and he’s only 48😱

Edited May 24, 2020 by theshed

[Toxteth O'Grady]

2 minutes ago, theshed said:

This Cummings guy will probably leave his roll today but in a few months pop back up in another job, guy looks like he’s at retirement age and ain’t going to be short of a few pound so probably best for all he just walks today 

 

As I said will be in another job later in the year 

He's only 48

[jambogaza]

11 minutes ago, Nucky Thompson said:

Planning to ease lockdown further in England from next Thursday. Garden parties, outside markets and National trust all opening.

Meanwhile we 'might' be able to drive a few miles to play golf 

 

I think he needs to reclaim his leadership right now to be honest, either by sacking Cummings or at least appearing at the briefing.

[Nucky Thompson]

4 minutes ago, jambogaza said:

 

I think he needs to reclaim his leadership right now to be honest, either by sacking Cummings or at least appearing at the briefing.

Cummings will be gone today hopefully 

[Weakened Offender]

Just now, Nucky Thompson said:

Cummings will be gone today hopefully 

 

It's all falling apart quite nicely eh? 😉

[Walter Bishop]

1 hour ago, annushorribilis III said:

There was an American Oxbridge professor on BBC News within the last week or so (can't recall his name but he's been on a few times) who said "don't get your hopes up on finding a vaccine" - he said the likelihood was less than 50% due to the fact it's very difficult to produce a vaccine to fight a virus (or words to that effect).

The flu is a virus. 

[Sooperstar]

The footage of him leaving his home this morning was quite a contrast from yesterday. His cockiness was gone. Think he might be too.

[mutley]

23 minutes ago, theshed said:

This Cummings guy will probably leave his roll today but in a few months pop back up in another job, guy looks like he’s at retirement age and ain’t going to be short of a few pound so probably best for all he just walks today 

 

As I said will be in another job later in the year 

 

Edit..... just googled him and he’s only 48😱

Is he not hungry?

[jambogaza]

3 minutes ago, Sooperstar said:

The footage of him leaving his home this morning was quite a contrast from yesterday. His cockiness was gone. Think he might be too.

 

I wonder if this will be a Craig Levein sort of departure...

[Pasquale for King]

4 hours ago, Smithee said:

 

His wife is deputy editor of the Spectator, the tory magazine once edited by Boris himself, and daughter of a baronet who has a castle. His 7 figure townhouse has a tapestry room. He's the CEO of a tory government. 

I'm wondering how much he really hates the establishment and posh toffs.

 

[CavySlaveJambo]

18 minutes ago, Walter Bishop said:

The flu is a virus. 

So are a lot of other illnesses that are prevented with vaccines (like Measles) 

 

however of the many human infecting coronaviridae, there are none that have proven effective. 

[Vlad Magic]

On 26/01/2020 at 01:00, mutley said:

A good old fashioned plague is required. Sort out the worlds over population issues and get rid of those elderly spongers in a single swoop

Regret that much?

[Lone Striker]

4 hours ago, Smithee said:

 

His wife is deputy editor of the Spectator, the tory magazine once edited by Boris himself, and daughter of a baronet who has a castle. His 7 figure townhouse has a tapestry room. He's the CEO of a tory government. 

I'm wondering how much he really hates the establishment and posh toffs.

Well, not quite .... but I get what you mean.    Despite being unelected and a complete oddball, he apparently is wielding a ridiculously large amount of influence at No. 10.    Which is probably down to Boris simply not being up to the job, and needing someone to do all the thinking and planning. Cummings is shrewd enough to see that he's on to a good thing there.    Boris needs him too much & probably won't sack him, despite a fair few other senior conservative MPs (even Brexiteers) having quite a dislike of the guy.

 

Considering the way he dresses to go to work at the heart of the UK government,  he's clearly non-conformist and will not  see himself as being part of the establishment.   It's a clever trick, being able to become indispensible and earn a fortune while hiding from any responsibility for anything.   😠

 

 

[Beni]

45 minutes ago, Sooperstar said:

The footage of him leaving his home this morning was quite a contrast from yesterday. His cockiness was gone. Think he might be too.

 

Having a boot that takes a few awkward seconds to close must be a pain in the arse. 😂

 

[Montgomery Brewster]

1 hour ago, Nucky Thompson said:

Planning to ease lockdown further in England from next Thursday. Garden parties, outside markets and National trust all opening.

Meanwhile we 'might' be able to drive a few miles to play golf 

You’ll be aware that Scotland was further behind England in the wave thats just subsiding now.

 

hence why we are a wee bit further behind England. Keep in mind that Boris’s paymasters are running the show down there and are just opening up earlier to help line their pockets. 
 

so their doing everything a bit earlier , meantime we are taking the slow and steady route. 

[jambogaza]

 

 

 

[Francis Albert]

2 hours ago, annushorribilis III said:

There was an American Oxbridge professor on BBC News within the last week or so (can't recall his name but he's been on a few times) who said "don't get your hopes up on finding a vaccine" - he said the likelihood was less than 50% due to the fact it's very difficult to produce a vaccine to fight a virus (or words to that effect).

I don't know if it is the same  Oxford proffessor  Adrian Hill (co leader of the vaccine project) who  is quoted today saying the upcoming trial of the vaccine in the UK  has a 50% chance of producing no result because the virus is disappearing so quicky. Pesky old virus!

He also argues for prioritising its use in countries where the virus is still spreading and so where it is most needed (and presumably where a test is more likely in due course  to produce a result)

 

 

[Lone Striker]

2 hours ago, Lord BJ said:

 

 

Indeed.

 

People have the fear of god put into them through a combination of government messaging and media. 

 

 

What is that Y-axis scale supposed to represent ?  The probability of dying ?  If so, even when you're  nearly 90 years old, there's only a 10% chance of dying ?    Seems awfy low ... 

[Nucky Thompson]

30 minutes ago, Montgomery Brewster said:

You’ll be aware that Scotland was further behind England in the wave thats just subsiding now.

 

hence why we are a wee bit further behind England. Keep in mind that Boris’s paymasters are running the show down there and are just opening up earlier to help line their pockets. 
 

so their doing everything a bit earlier , meantime we are taking the slow and steady route. 

Slow and steady route 

[dobmisterdobster]

38 minutes ago, fancy a brew said:

 

Having a boot that takes a few awkward seconds to close must be a pain in the arse. 😂

 

 

Hideous paparazzi crowded together like rats. Not observing the 2m rule at all.

[The Real Maroonblood]

2 minutes ago, dobmisterdobster said:

 

Hideous paparazzi crowded together like rats. Not observing the 2m rule at all.

Rats chasing a rat how fitting.

[Francis Albert]

10 minutes ago, Lone Striker said:

 

 

What is that Y-axis scale supposed to represent ?  The probability of dying ?  I f so, even when you're  nearly 90 years old, there's only a 10% chance of dying ?    Seems awfy low ... 

A study in Denmark showed average life expectancy of a 90 year old is 4 to 5 years. So for a 90 year old 10%  chance of dying within one year seems reasonable.

 

[Unknown user]

11 minutes ago, dobmisterdobster said:

 

Hideous paparazzi crowded together like rats. Not observing the 2m rule at all.

Yeah, the nerve of not following the rules eh? 🙄

[dobmisterdobster]

20 minutes ago, Smithee said:

Yeah, the nerve of not following the rules eh? 🙄

 

Lecturing a man about unnecessary travel by traveling to his house and congregating in a large group.

[Spellczech]

47 minutes ago, Lone Striker said:

 

 

What is that Y-axis scale supposed to represent ?  The probability of dying ?  If so, even when you're  nearly 90 years old, there's only a 10% chance of dying ?    Seems awfy low ... 

Yeah I guess if means that 90% of 90 year olds turn 91?

[felix]

40 minutes ago, Lone Striker said:

 

 

What is that Y-axis scale supposed to represent ?  The probability of dying ?  If so, even when you're  nearly 90 years old, there's only a 10% chance of dying ?    Seems awfy low ... 

Not really. 1 in 10 seems fairly high risk to me. Less than 1% at age 60 or less, seems low.

[The Real Maroonblood]

3 minutes ago, dobmisterdobster said:

 

Lecturing a man about unnecessary travel by traveling to his house and congregating in a large group.

 

[FWJ]

So he gets “sacked” from whatever job he has. 
What’s to stop him from continuing to influence BJ?  Have neither of them phones?

[Nucky Thompson]

60 new positive cases and 6 new deaths in Scotland. They always try and put a dampener on it by saying it's only low because it's the weekend.

Are we not allowed to have any good news anymore?

Before someone points out, I know it's not good news for the families of the deceased but encouraging signs that it's going in the right direction 

[Lone Striker]

21 minutes ago, felix said:

Not really. 1 in 10 seems fairly high risk to me. Less than 1% at age 60 or less, seems low.

Ahh right....  Didn't realise that.  Thanks for that (and to others above who have mentioned it too). 

 

A bit stark to see that infant mortality (incl stillbirth) risk is the same as the risk of dying at 55    😵  

 

 

 

 

[Spellczech]

7 minutes ago, Nucky Thompson said:

60 new positive cases and 6 new deaths in Scotland. They always try and put a dampener on it by saying it's only low because it's the weekend.

Are we not allowed to have any good news anymore?

Before someone points out, I know it's not good news for the families of the deceased but encouraging signs that it's going in the right direction 

But it is low because it is a Sunday - the pattern is there to see... Tomorrow will be low too

 

Edited May 24, 2020 by Spellczech

[The Internet]

9 minutes ago, Nucky Thompson said:

60 new positive cases and 6 new deaths in Scotland. They always try and put a dampener on it by saying it's only low because it's the weekend.

Are we not allowed to have any good news anymore?

Before someone points out, I know it's not good news for the families of the deceased but encouraging signs that it's going in the right direction 

 

They're not trying to put a dampener on it, it's literally the case that reported cases and deaths are lower at the weekend. Won't get a true accurate number until Tuesday. Been that way since the start. But it is finally heading in the right direction. 

[manaliveits105]

Any sign of the SG criticizing the celtic fans for congregating outside darkheid last Monday watched by the police yet  ?

[joondalupjambo]

30 minutes ago, FWJ said:

So he gets “sacked” from whatever job he has. 
What’s to stop him from continuing to influence BJ?  Have neither of them phones?

Nothing at all.

All he will do is create a new Ltd company or become an employee of one of his mates company's and then the company contracts to the Tory Party to deliver strategic advice.  The company simply says it will use a lead consultant to deliver the services required and lo and behold guess who the lead consultant will be, bingo Dominic Cummings.

 It is probably that simple.  

[dobmisterdobster]

Cummings will be back in Number 10 once the hype dies down.

[The Real Maroonblood]

2 minutes ago, joondalupjambo said:

Nothing at all.

All he will do is create a new Ltd company or become an employee of one of his mates company's and then the company contracts to the Tory Party to deliver strategic advice.  The company simply says it will use a lead consultant to deliver the services required and lo and behold guess who the lead consultant will be, bingo Dominic Cummings.

 It is probably that simple.  

This.

It’s still good to see him being humiliated.

[Francis Albert]

42 minutes ago, Lone Striker said:

Ahh right....  Didn't realise that.  Thanks for that (and to others above who have mentioned it too). 

 

A bit stark to see that infant mortality (incl stillbirth) risk is the same as the risk of dying at 55    😵  

 

 

 

 

Newly born have always been at relatively high risk of death. The risks to both the very young and very old have reduced dramatically in the last century or so.

The  graph does illustrate that the perception of risk from Coronavirus has been out of line with reality. The virus has virtually disappeared in London but people still pass others in the street with terror.

Edited May 24, 2020 by Francis Albert

[felix]

27 minutes ago, Lone Striker said:

Ahh right....  Didn't realise that.  Thanks for that (and to others above who have mentioned it too). 

A bit stark to see that infant mortality (incl stillbirth) risk is the same as the risk of dying at 55    😵  

 

 

Indeed, but thankfully there's  a low chance (0.4-0.8%) of stillbirth,  or of dying at 55.

It's the same probability/chance of road fatality, during one adults lifetime.

 

We're locking down an entire country, with the obvious aim of saving lives, on these small probability margins,  yet failing to protect high risk groups. 

[The Real Maroonblood]

[Realzaragoza]

The seethe from the Guardian etc ,  that useless blowhard  Blackford , and the BBC is more to do with getting rid of Cummings because he was one of the major forces in getting Brexit done rather than breaking lockdown rules.

[dobmisterdobster]

4 minutes ago, Realzaragoza said:

The seethe from the Guardian etc ,  that useless blowhard  Blackford , and the BBC is more to do with getting rid of Cummings because he was one of the major forces in getting Brexit done rather than breaking lockdown rules.

 

Blackford spent all day talking about Cummings and has said nothing about the hotel chains going bust in his constituency.

[Bongo 1874]

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1286494/coronavirus-breakthrough-covid-19-vaccine-uk-astrazeneca-oxford-university/amp&ved=2ahUKEwiKuf6oyMzpAhWBYsAKHfe1CjUQ0PADegQIARAT&usg=AOvVaw3-U57aApmL6NAGg0Jks5Qy

 

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://news.sky.com/story/amp/coronavirus-disappearing-so-fast-oxford-vaccine-has-only-50-chance-of-working-11993739&ved=2ahUKEwjt69S1yMzpAhWEQEEAHZB1BjkQ0PADegQIARAH&usg=AOvVaw1iucH_5FcLAXxdCa-vdL_7&ampcf=1

 

 

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://amp.theguardian.com/society/2020/may/24/uk-scientists-want-to-infect-volunteers-with-covid-19-in-race-to-find-vaccine&ved=2ahUKEwjt69S1yMzpAhWEQEEAHZB1BjkQ0PADegQIARAN&usg=AOvVaw0Q051Z9n9o2_UpvqCp8MEx&ampcf=1

 

Personally think we will find something , if that means we don't get a vaccine that fully prevents infection but stops people getting the severe side affects. 

 

China are in the lead at the moment, hoping we find something soon cracking up with this no football. 

 

Been watching German football and the standard is good, but you can see the players are going through the motions at times. 

Edited May 24, 2020 by Bongo 1874

[Victorian]

Briefing delayed.   Boris is doing it.

 

[Jambo314]

[Joey J J Jr Shabadoo]

11 minutes ago, Realzaragoza said:

The seethe from the Guardian etc ,  that useless blowhard  Blackford , and the BBC is more to do with getting rid of Cummings because he was one of the major forces in getting Brexit done rather than breaking lockdown rules.

And yet the Tories hate the **** too.

 

Edited May 24, 2020 by Joey J J Jr Shabadoo