HMFC 86 Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 Article in the Scotsman about Stendel. I’ve copied the link below, but also extracted the latter part which provides critical quotes from Loic Damour over the delay and lack of information to players/staff. Incredibly ill advised by a player who has not exactly hit the ground running IMO. https://www.scotsman.com/sport/football/hearts/loic-damour-hits-out-at-hearts-manager-delay-amid-hitch-in-daniel-stendel-deal-1-5056541 It has been a frustrating time for fans and players, with midfielder Loic Damour welcoming a move towards greater clarity and revealing that the process has already dragged on longer than the squad would have liked. “We’ve waited for too long. It’s been five weeks or something like that, so it’s too long,” said Damour. “There’s been no information for players, for staff, for everybody. It’s hard when you don’t know. It’s not an excuse to be s**t on the pitch, I’m not saying that, but obviously it’s harder to prepare for games. It’s not ideal so it’s good to feel the situation is changing.” Admitting that he knows very little about Stendel, the Frenchman said that one obvious outcome would be that the players will need to up their game if they want to impress. If they could secure what would be only their second win in ten games, against Gary Holt’s side tonight, it would be a step in the right direction. “To be honest, I wasn’t expecting this kind of start when I came here,” said Damour who joined Hearts from Cardiff City in August. “But it’s another experience for my career, I have been through some difficult moments in the past and this is another one. “Every time a new manager comes in it’s a new start for everybody.” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamstomorrow Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 Hopefully we look forward to the team blooming under a new manager, rather than just remaining blooming awful? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo, Goodbye Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 Hearts are 10th and he is clearly angry at the situation. It's good to know that the cares, whether people rate him or not. I also think it's perfectly okay for him to give his honest opinion, again, whether we can agree or not with him. it's refreshing. For a sport that is built around having opinions, we don't half get upset when managers and players say what they are really thinking. No footballing cliches and can think for himself. Nothing against that whatsoever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1874robbo Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 23 minutes ago, HMFC 86 said: Article in the Scotsman about Stendel. I’ve copied the link below, but also extracted the latter part which provides critical quotes from Loic Damour over the delay and lack of information to players/staff. Incredibly ill advised by a player who has not exactly hit the ground running IMO. https://www.scotsman.com/sport/football/hearts/loic-damour-hits-out-at-hearts-manager-delay-amid-hitch-in-daniel-stendel-deal-1-5056541 It has been a frustrating time for fans and players, with midfielder Loic Damour welcoming a move towards greater clarity and revealing that the process has already dragged on longer than the squad would have liked. “We’ve waited for too long. It’s been five weeks or something like that, so it’s too long,” said Damour. “There’s been no information for players, for staff, for everybody. It’s hard when you don’t know. It’s not an excuse to be s**t on the pitch, I’m not saying that, but obviously it’s harder to prepare for games. It’s not ideal so it’s good to feel the situation is changing.” Admitting that he knows very little about Stendel, the Frenchman said that one obvious outcome would be that the players will need to up their game if they want to impress. If they could secure what would be only their second win in ten games, against Gary Holt’s side tonight, it would be a step in the right direction. “To be honest, I wasn’t expecting this kind of start when I came here,” said Damour who joined Hearts from Cardiff City in August. “But it’s another experience for my career, I have been through some difficult moments in the past and this is another one. “Every time a new manager comes in it’s a new start for everybody.” I would imagine all the players have been feeling the same way. certainly no excuse for the gutless performances though. A good number of us have felt it’s dragged on too long and here’s a player who is privy to what’s being said in the dressing room voicing the same opinion. Hopefully Stendel starts and we can push on up the table!! no more excuses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selkirkhmfc1874 Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 Would imagine most of the players will feel the same privately ! Only difference is he's said it publicly which won't go down well with Mrs Budge Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Kilpatrick Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 Yes, imagine a player ask WTF is going on? It's only his career.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Boy Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 32 minutes ago, HMFC 86 said: Article in the Scotsman about Stendel. I’ve copied the link below, but also extracted the latter part which provides critical quotes from Loic Damour over the delay and lack of information to players/staff. Incredibly ill advised by a player who has not exactly hit the ground running IMO. https://www.scotsman.com/sport/football/hearts/loic-damour-hits-out-at-hearts-manager-delay-amid-hitch-in-daniel-stendel-deal-1-5056541 It has been a frustrating time for fans and players, with midfielder Loic Damour welcoming a move towards greater clarity and revealing that the process has already dragged on longer than the squad would have liked. “We’ve waited for too long. It’s been five weeks or something like that, so it’s too long,” said Damour. “There’s been no information for players, for staff, for everybody. It’s hard when you don’t know. It’s not an excuse to be s**t on the pitch, I’m not saying that, but obviously it’s harder to prepare for games. It’s not ideal so it’s good to feel the situation is changing.” Admitting that he knows very little about Stendel, the Frenchman said that one obvious outcome would be that the players will need to up their game if they want to impress. If they could secure what would be only their second win in ten games, against Gary Holt’s side tonight, it would be a step in the right direction. “To be honest, I wasn’t expecting this kind of start when I came here,” said Damour who joined Hearts from Cardiff City in August. “But it’s another experience for my career, I have been through some difficult moments in the past and this is another one. “Every time a new manager comes in it’s a new start for everybody.” What on Earth is wrong with what he’s said? Good to see the mob is not forgetting about scapegoats in these troubling times. 🙄 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boris Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 7 minutes ago, Selkirkhmfc1874 said: Would imagine most of the players will feel the same privately ! Only difference is he's said it publicly which won't go down well with Mrs Budge Why? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selkirkhmfc1874 Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 2 minutes ago, Boris said: Why? Well saying it's taking too long won't go down with Mrs Budge I'd imagine but I respect the lad for giving his honest opinion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HMFC 86 Posted December 4, 2019 Author Share Posted December 4, 2019 13 minutes ago, Icon of Symmetry said: What on Earth is wrong with what he’s said? Good to see the mob is not forgetting about scapegoats in these troubling times. 🙄 Aye good one. Might have known I’d get an idiotic reply from you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randy Marsh Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 32 minutes ago, Jambo, Goodbye said: Hearts are 10th and he is clearly angry at the situation. It's good to know that the cares, whether people rate him or not. I also think it's perfectly okay for him to give his honest opinion, again, whether we can agree or not with him. it's refreshing. For a sport that is built around having opinions, we don't half get upset when managers and players say what they are really thinking. No footballing cliches and can think for himself. Nothing against that whatsoever. This. Hopefully we might see Damour thrive under a new manager. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Boy Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 2 minutes ago, HMFC 86 said: Aye good one. Might have known I’d get an idiotic reply from you Oh look, an abusive post from HMFC 86. Shocked. A quick look at your last ten posts reveal a pattern. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i8hibsh Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 (edited) When the Riccarton 3 spoke out it was passion and raw emotion from 3 players who had been with us a good while, who continually gave their all for the badge and played at a very high level week in week out. This is just some dud who came yesterday who has been nothing more than dog shite since he came. He can **** right off. Edited December 4, 2019 by i8hibsh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HMFC 86 Posted December 4, 2019 Author Share Posted December 4, 2019 11 minutes ago, Icon of Symmetry said: Oh look, an abusive post from HMFC 86. Shocked. A quick look at your last ten posts reveal a pattern. Hardly abusive, no problem for you to be abusive though. Brass neck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i8hibsh Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 49 minutes ago, Jambo, Goodbye said: Hearts are 10th and he is clearly angry at the situation. It's good to know that the cares, whether people rate him or not. I also think it's perfectly okay for him to give his honest opinion, again, whether we can agree or not with him. it's refreshing. For a sport that is built around having opinions, we don't half get upset when managers and players say what they are really thinking. No footballing cliches and can think for himself. Nothing against that whatsoever. If he cared you would see it on the pitch. He has been 0/10 so far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 4 minutes ago, i8hibsh said: If he cared you would see it on the pitch. He has been 0/10 so far. I haven't really seen enough to judge him. You? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i8hibsh Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 Just now, ri Alban said: I haven't really seen enough to judge him. You? Almost every minute he has 'played'. Merde. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeyW Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 A man who has standards, he’s obviously not been at the races and not been able to play a few games in a row to get into a rhythm. But you can tell he’s used to a level of professionalism. As has been said before I hope he gets a good run of games to show if he can walk the walk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingantti1874 Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 He’s only saying what most players, fans and observers have said.. it is too long and it’s not normal mid season.. it gives players a convenient excuse to be shite still glad we’ve gone for Stendel, shows good ambition.. hope we can get it done.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Debut 4 Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 1 hour ago, 1874robbo said: I would imagine all the players have been feeling the same way. certainly no excuse for the gutless performances though. A good number of us have felt it’s dragged on too long and here’s a player who is privy to what’s being said in the dressing room voicing the same opinion. Hopefully Stendel starts and we can push on up the table!! no more excuses. There’s no excuse but you get different types of people/players who need guidance, leadership and a situation where they know what’s expected of them. A manager reinforces that. There’ll be some players who crash on regardless of the situation but it’s not enough when there’s 11 that start a game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doig1874 Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 I have no problem with his statement whatsoever, I don't think we can really judge how bad players are when we've been playing disjointed formations with players out of position, 3 years of poor leadership and mismanagement all coming to a head as of a few weeks ago with now the lowest morale/confidence I have seen from a Hearts team yet. Personally I will be giving all of the players in this team a fresh start when the new manager has settled into an actual formation and playstyle and is rotating players into the wrong position every week. I understand some of that was due to injuries in the past but some of it was just nonsensical. You will see I don't post much as it can be a bit of an echo chamber here (like on any community forum) but thought I'd try in the hopes even a few of you would give the players a fresh start. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramrod Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 Like he says its no excuse for being shit on the pitch . Him and a lot of the other jokers need to take a bit of pride in themselves and their work, starting tonight . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1874robbo Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 4 minutes ago, Debut 4 said: There’s no excuse but you get different types of people/players who need guidance, leadership and a situation where they know what’s expected of them. A manager reinforces that. There’ll be some players who crash on regardless of the situation but it’s not enough when there’s 11 that start a game. Exactly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haken Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 Don't see much wrong in what he says, but what I took from it was how tight the club has been about doing its business, presumably in an effort to prevent leaks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manaliveits105 Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 Looking for a Manhattan Transfer ra da da da da Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
busby1985 Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 He’s obviously not been listening or paying attention as other first team players/coaches have known what’s been going on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gashauskis9 Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 I think it’s become obvious over the last few weeks who Levein’s players were and who MacPhee’s players were. Damour, Irving, Clare, Morrison and Mulraney for example, have barely kicked a ball since Levein left and all of a sudden Bozanic and White are first team mainstays. FWIW, I’ve not been impressed with Damour in the very little I’ve seen of him. For a guy with a 4 year contract brought in as a replacement for Djoum (arguably our main midfielder before he left), it seems he’s now the last in the midfield pecking order. I really hope he kicks on under Stendel, otherwise I suspect we’ll look to cut our losses in January. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RudiHMFC Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 Football fans are so unbelievably sensitive. Better if he came out and said the boys are buzzing in training and fully behind McPhee or some nonsense like that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pettigrewsstylist Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 Clearly not contemplating AM getting the gig then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon Ramsay Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 He's been awful so far but nothing wrong with what he's saying. Clearly doesn't think much of MacPhee either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo83 Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 He's entitled to his opinion. I'd just rather he concentrated on trying to improve his form. For a player who played so often in the English championship, he should be sticking out as impressive against some of the teams in this league, and he's not, by a long chalk! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gashauskis9 Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 7 minutes ago, RudiHMFC said: Football fans are so unbelievably sensitive. Better if he came out and said the boys are buzzing in training and fully behind McPhee or some nonsense like that? I think we’d prefer the talking to be done on the pitch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
We_are_the_Hearts Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 Refreshing and honest. Unlike some of the guff we have listened to from other players recently. Hopefully Loic can kick on under a proper manager. Looked a player at first but like so many seemed to get dragged down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hearts00 Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 2 hours ago, HMFC 86 said: Article in the Scotsman about Stendel. I’ve copied the link below, but also extracted the latter part which provides critical quotes from Loic Damour over the delay and lack of information to players/staff. Incredibly ill advised by a player who has not exactly hit the ground running IMO. https://www.scotsman.com/sport/football/hearts/loic-damour-hits-out-at-hearts-manager-delay-amid-hitch-in-daniel-stendel-deal-1-5056541 It has been a frustrating time for fans and players, with midfielder Loic Damour welcoming a move towards greater clarity and revealing that the process has already dragged on longer than the squad would have liked. “We’ve waited for too long. It’s been five weeks or something like that, so it’s too long,” said Damour. “There’s been no information for players, for staff, for everybody. It’s hard when you don’t know. It’s not an excuse to be s**t on the pitch, I’m not saying that, but obviously it’s harder to prepare for games. It’s not ideal so it’s good to feel the situation is changing.” Admitting that he knows very little about Stendel, the Frenchman said that one obvious outcome would be that the players will need to up their game if they want to impress. If they could secure what would be only their second win in ten games, against Gary Holt’s side tonight, it would be a step in the right direction. “To be honest, I wasn’t expecting this kind of start when I came here,” said Damour who joined Hearts from Cardiff City in August. “But it’s another experience for my career, I have been through some difficult moments in the past and this is another one. “Every time a new manager comes in it’s a new start for everybody.” Please please please let his comments be ground for dismissal and The tearing up of his contract. He looks utter gash and the thought of him hanging about for four years makes my blood boil. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamhammer Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 So the players are in the dark? Who is telling our ITKers? Or maybe it’s just some players Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvin Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 1 hour ago, Selkirkhmfc1874 said: Well saying it's taking too long won't go down with Mrs Budge I'd imagine but I respect the lad for giving his honest opinion That's what my feelings are. Let's hope he can show in future games what we were promised he was capable of. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E6 Inc Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 If he's saying it there will be a lot more thinking it. And it shows in our performances. Whole team is devoid of passion, energy and focus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baxfee Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 Really been disappointed with him as a player so far. Here’s hoping the new man gets the best out of him - would feel as if we’d signed a new player if it does Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David McCaig Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 2 hours ago, Geoff Kilpatrick said: Yes, imagine a player ask WTF is going on? It's only his career.... whilst working under a caretaker who sees Bozanic as the first name on the teamsheet!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamstomorrow Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 14 minutes ago, We_are_the_Hearts said: Refreshing and honest. Unlike some of the guff we have listened to from other players recently. Hopefully Loic can kick on under a proper manager. Looked a player at first but like so many seemed to get dragged down. It is 'refreshing and honest' because it is simply what you want to hear? Hearts have had a manager, albeit an interim appointment. Professional football players, some experienced internationalists among them, are surely capable playing a game of football without a 'full time' appointment. If I am wrong, then hopefully he will become a world class footballer for us when we do have a new manager. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jr ewing Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 Too slow.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1971fozzy Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 He’s been asked the question and been honest. Not a lot wrong with what he has said but I’d not be going public with it. looking forward to them all trying a leg now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DalryJambo Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 2 hours ago, Jambo, Goodbye said: Hearts are 10th and he is clearly angry at the situation. It's good to know that the cares, whether people rate him or not. I also think it's perfectly okay for him to give his honest opinion, again, whether we can agree or not with him. it's refreshing. For a sport that is built around having opinions, we don't half get upset when managers and players say what they are really thinking. No footballing cliches and can think for himself. Nothing against that whatsoever. I agree, players are criticised for giving bland interviews and not caring...we can’t then criticise him for telling us exactly how he feels. When you read his actual quote I’d say it’s a slightly softer statement than the headline suggests. The only thing I’d say is the players should have the mentality that they are trying to impress the next manager already, but they maybe think they’ll be getting a third new way of playing shortly (Levein > MacPhee > new manager) and aren’t committing overly to the temporary approach. Having never been a professional i don’t know if that’ll be the players mindset. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GorgieFifeLife Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 2 hours ago, Selkirkhmfc1874 said: Would imagine most of the players will feel the same privately ! Only difference is he's said it publicly which won't go down well with Mrs Budge Truth hurts I suppose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goldie83 Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 1 hour ago, i8hibsh said: When the Riccarton 3 spoke out it was passion and raw emotion from 3 players who had been with us a good while, who continually gave their all for the badge and played at a very high level week in week out. This is just some dud who came yesterday who has been nothing more than dog shite since he came. He can **** right off. Regardless of what you think of him as a player, he’s 100% correct in what he is saying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Hardy’s Dug Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 Player not getting picked mouths out. Highly unprofessional and whilst I was a fan of the potential of Damour this puts me off him. Shit on the pitch? Damour has been so shit he hasn’t even got on the pitch. Sounds like soor grapes from a prima donna to me. Should be disciplined. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Hardy’s Dug Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 (edited) 3 minutes ago, goldie83 said: Regardless of what you think of him as a player, he’s 100% correct in what he is saying. No he is not because not a huge amount has changed since Levein went. The same people have been coaching the team. There has barely been any disruption other than the players using the situation to get paid for doing even less than they were. He is clearly shiting himself at having to up his work rate under Stendel. Edited December 4, 2019 by Tom Hardy’s Dug Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i8hibsh Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 1 minute ago, goldie83 said: Regardless of what you think of him as a player, he’s 100% correct in what he is I disagree. We are as utterly garbage now as when we had a manager and stability. Now is just a convenient excuse for the cluster of losers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i8hibsh Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Tom Hardy’s Dug said: Should be disciplined. Perhaps the world famous 'Budge smacked botty'. Edited December 4, 2019 by i8hibsh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack D and coke Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 2 hours ago, i8hibsh said: When the Riccarton 3 spoke out it was passion and raw emotion from 3 players who had been with us a good while, who continually gave their all for the badge and played at a very high level week in week out. This is just some dud who came yesterday who has been nothing more than dog shite since he came. He can **** right off. 2 hours ago, i8hibsh said: If he cared you would see it on the pitch. He has been 0/10 so far. Mibbe slightly stronger than I would’ve put it but sentiment is correct. He’s been absolutely horse shit. I watched him when he came on Sunday and I was raging. Just jogged about aimlessly doing the square root of **** all. A 4 year deal.... Dont have any issues at all with what he said here either but needs to get his finger out. His performances have been utterly tragic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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