JamboM003 Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 7 hours ago, NANOJAMBO said: Sacked managers usually stay on the payroll until their contract is paid up. I don't see Stendal's situation as being unusual in that regard. Again there may be a clause about future employment. I agree the Barnsley guy sounds a right tosser in that piece. I suspect the only reason that compensation is coming into it is because Stendel has not compromised on being paid up on his contract by Barnsley. Understandable and he is entitled to do so. Had he been prepared to mutually cancel his contract without any further payments being due (i.e. because he had another job to go to), Barnsley would not have any basis to seek compensation. A deal could have been done. All it would have taken was for Barnsley to be in a better position financially than if they had to continue to pay his salary for the remainder of his contract. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbo-Jambo Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 34 minutes ago, Pasquale for King said: Hopefully when the new SD comes in his help won’t be required anymore and he can disappear and let the new guys get on with sorting out the mess he’s left at first team level. Exactly. 👍 Should never have been kept on in any capacity in the first place after being sacked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomaso Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 8 minutes ago, farin said: They’ve been watching Aaron for months tbh. Looks like leveins doing a DoF role here. No idea what kind of cash their offering on the sale & loan back deal though. He’s doing a DoF role???? Ann told us porkies then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 4 minutes ago, Robbo-Jambo said: Exactly. 👍 Should never have been kept on in any capacity in the first place after being sacked. Indeed, I’m pretty sure the academy director can do anything Levein neglected to do in the last five years. It was just an excuse to keep her pal around the place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambof3tornado Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 Why do I think we'll all be very disappointed when we cash the cheque for Hickey? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Independence Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 1 hour ago, Cruickshank for Scotland said: Stunning response. About as good as your posts! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Last Laff Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 13 hours ago, graygo said: Cue the seethe about Levein being there. With some justification to be fair. I said he was there last week and got absolutely hounded for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Last Laff Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 1 hour ago, Pasquale for King said: Hopefully when the new SD comes in his help won’t be required anymore and he can disappear and let the new guys get on with sorting out the mess he’s left at first team level. Has anyone been interviewed for it yet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomaso Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 38 minutes ago, Independence said: About as good as your posts! Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Boy Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 59 minutes ago, Pasquale for King said: Like we did with Levein? Maybe they wanted to give the new man a bit of space. Knew that would eventually be brought up in response. However, as far as I am aware, Stendel is not filling any role at Barnsley at the moment? Makes it a bit different if that's the case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
upgotheheads Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hearts/latest-hearts-news/reports-claim-hearts-owner-ann-budge-discussed-aaron-hickey-transfer-manchester-city-1331324 According to this article his contract runs to the end of this season. I thought it was the end of next season, anyone in the know? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnking123 Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 Its next season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTrumpet Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 8 hours ago, Barack said: Liked the elipses. Teasing and dramatic... Except you're both one . short of a full ellipsis... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
upgotheheads Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 38 minutes ago, Icon of Symmetry said: Knew that would eventually be brought up in response. However, as far as I am aware, Stendel is not filling any role at Barnsley at the moment? Makes it a bit different if that's the case. They have him under contract so I don't think it matter whether he has any role because they will still be paying him. I imagine that they might settle for a buy out clause at something less than his contract value though, which would suit both parties. That's what usually happens, Barnsley wont want to keep paying him when can avoid it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dazajmbo Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 8 hours ago, waterboy11 said: Was always on the cards, part of agreement for Meshino deal was city got first option on Hickey. That is not true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Boy Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 16 minutes ago, upgotheheads said: They have him under contract so I don't think it matter whether he has any role because they will still be paying him. I imagine that they might settle for a buy out clause at something less than his contract value though, which would suit both parties. That's what usually happens, Barnsley wont want to keep paying him when can avoid it. No, I get that. I'm just pointing out that that would make it different to teh Levein situation that PfK brought up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Future's Maroon Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 41 minutes ago, upgotheheads said: https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hearts/latest-hearts-news/reports-claim-hearts-owner-ann-budge-discussed-aaron-hickey-transfer-manchester-city-1331324 According to this article his contract runs to the end of this season. I thought it was the end of next season, anyone in the know? The article states end of next season? It may have been corrected since you first read it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 1 hour ago, Last Laff said: Has anyone been interviewed for it yet? I haven’t heard of anyone, could the interview process have been two parts (manager and SD)? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 1 hour ago, Icon of Symmetry said: Knew that would eventually be brought up in response. However, as far as I am aware, Stendel is not filling any role at Barnsley at the moment? Makes it a bit different if that's the case. He’s not but if we put the coaching team on gardening leave and say NI want to give Macphee their managers job we should ask for compensation surely? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soonbe110 Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 1 hour ago, upgotheheads said: https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hearts/latest-hearts-news/reports-claim-hearts-owner-ann-budge-discussed-aaron-hickey-transfer-manchester-city-1331324 According to this article his contract runs to the end of this season. I thought it was the end of next season, anyone in the know? 18 months to go Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maroon Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 said this before and got shot down for it but she did with manchester city representatives when in manchester seeing stendel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Boy Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 28 minutes ago, Pasquale for King said: He’s not but if we put the coaching team on gardening leave and say NI want to give Macphee their managers job we should ask for compensation surely? I would rather we either kept him on in a role that he wanted and we were happy to keep him in, or let him leave and go somewhere else if I’m honest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 Just now, Icon of Symmetry said: I would rather we either kept him on in a role that he wanted and we were happy to keep him in, or let him leave and go somewhere else if I’m honest. He brings nothing to the party, he can go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Boy Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 1 minute ago, Pasquale for King said: He brings nothing to the party, he can go. If that is deemed to be the case by his employer, then yes. Absolutely. Same with Stendel surely? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rick witter Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 16 hours ago, graygo said: Cue the seethe about Levein being there. With some justification to be fair. No justification whatsoever. It’s absolutely outrageous that he is still involved in any capacity after what he has done to us over the last 3 years!!! The whole way the club is being run is a mess!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jr ewing Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 7 minutes ago, farin said: Surplus to requirements soon. 😊 Get the compensation due anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graygo Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 (edited) 54 minutes ago, rick witter said: No justification whatsoever. It’s absolutely outrageous that he is still involved in any capacity after what he has done to us over the last 3 years!!! The whole way the club is being run is a mess!! Well that makes absolutely no sense in reply to my post. No justification and then you explain why there is. Edited December 3, 2019 by graygo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rick witter Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 1 minute ago, graygo said: Well that makes absolutely no sense in reply to my post. Your right it does not. Apologies I certainly did not read your post properly. 👍🏻👍🏻 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Last Laff Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 Hickey is never in a million years going to get anywhere near the Man City reserves side at the moment, what would be the point in buying him the now? It’s more likely if they want him and he develops as he looks like he could they could sign him in two years and loan him to Celtic possibly for some kind of exchange of the money they will be due at some point if he doesn’t run down his contract. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jr ewing Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 2 hours ago, dazajmbo said: That is not true. But it did open up a dialogue between both teams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dazajmbo Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 Just now, jr ewing said: But it did open up a dialogue between both teams. So did Smith-Brown. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jr ewing Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 Just now, dazajmbo said: So did Smith-Brown. Who? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the general Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 8 minutes ago, Last Laff said: Hickey is never in a million years going to get anywhere near the Man City reserves side at the moment, what would be the point in buying him the now? It’s more likely if they want him and he develops as he looks like he could they could sign him in two years and loan him to Celtic possibly for some kind of exchange of the money they will be due at some point if he doesn’t run down his contract. I think he could easily get a game for City at his age level We are too quick to knock young Scottish players Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 1 minute ago, the general said: I think he could easily get a game for City at his age level We are too quick to knock young Scottish players They have U18 league Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OTT Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 24 minutes ago, dazajmbo said: So did Smith-Brown. Hopefully that dialogue went something along the lines of don't dump your crap on us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dazajmbo Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 2 minutes ago, OTT said: Hopefully that dialogue went something along the lines of don't dump your crap on us. I believe it did. Just making the point that we had a relationship with man city before the supposed link came from Meshino in some kind of fan dreamt swap loan deal with Hickey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Last Laff Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 28 minutes ago, the general said: I think he could easily get a game for City at his age level We are too quick to knock young Scottish players Why would he want to go miles back? Just for more money? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norrie1952 Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 I was at Newcastle man city at the weekend.there is no chance Hickey or Meshino could get anywhere near that first team ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gambo Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 I would hope we will also listen to what other teams are willing to offer if we are listening to offers for Hickey. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lfhearts Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 Think you are all dreaming Man City my a***. He has potential no doubt but man city don't see it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 3 hours ago, Last Laff said: Hickey is never in a million years going to get anywhere near the Man City reserves side at the moment, what would be the point in buying him the now? It’s more likely if they want him and he develops as he looks like he could they could sign him in two years and loan him to Celtic possibly for some kind of exchange of the money they will be due at some point if he doesn’t run down his contract. If they sign him in January before he’s 18 he will be classed as a homegrown player and help their quota, apparently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Last Laff Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 2 minutes ago, Pasquale for King said: If they sign him in January before he’s 18 he will be classed as a homegrown player and help their quota, apparently. Will that still count if he’s in the under 18s? There’s absolutely no danger Hickey is at a level to be near the city first team. That Frimpong boy for Celtic looks amazing and even he didn’t get near. Hickeys much more potential than the likes of Barker, granted but I would fail to see why they would sign him for a couple of million instead of just getting an established player who is British instead? Celtic have a good working relationship with City too, we actually have a better working relationship with Man Utd because of Levein and his work with RS. I can’t ever see an outcome they would be willing to bump Celtic out of money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricardo Shillyshally Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 Anyone heard that he's carrying a slight hamstring injury? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 1 minute ago, Last Laff said: Will that still count if he’s in the under 18s? There’s absolutely no danger Hickey is at a level to be near the city first team. That Frimpong boy for Celtic looks amazing and even he didn’t get near. Hickeys much more potential than the likes of Barker, granted but I would fail to see why they would sign him for a couple of million instead of just getting an established player who is British instead? Celtic have a good working relationship with City too, we actually have a better working relationship with Man Utd because of Levein and his work with RS. I can’t ever see an outcome they would be willing to bump Celtic out of money. That’s the rules I believe, an established Scot wouldn’t be classed as going through their academy I think. Agree about Frimpong, I said it when he made his debut for them. I’m not sure what we would get for Hickey but Celtic are due a cut of the transfer and any sell on fee it seems. Who or what is RS? The jury is still out on Meshino but we’ve not had much luck with loans from either team in Manchester up until now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Last Laff Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 2 minutes ago, Pasquale for King said: That’s the rules I believe, an established Scot wouldn’t be classed as going through their academy I think. Agree about Frimpong, I said it when he made his debut for them. I’m not sure what we would get for Hickey but Celtic are due a cut of the transfer and any sell on fee it seems. Who or what is RS? The jury is still out on Meshino but we’ve not had much luck with loans from either team in Manchester up until now. 👍 ricky sbragia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 1 minute ago, Last Laff said: 👍 ricky sbragia Didn’t realise he was u23 coach there, he can keep his loans if the two he’s sent up recently are anything to go by. The first one was their player of the year ffs, doesn’t say much for the rest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dayman Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 9 hours ago, Pasquale for King said: Didn’t realise he was u23 coach there, he can keep his loans if the two he’s sent up recently are anything to go by. The first one was their player of the year ffs, doesn’t say much for the rest. Mitchell was a class above until he got injured. He came back about 1/10 of the player. I don’t think he’s kicked a ball since leaving us?! Might be wrong though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prince Buaben Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 The money they will offer is not to be sniffed at but it kind of sticks in the back of my head a something said by Mark Wotte about staying and playing over a 100 games and going down to England a bit higher in the pecking order. I feel Hickey will get lost in the system and spend time on loan to the championship then come back up the road in 5 years at Motherwell etc. Although he could kick on under top top class coaching and be challenging Robertson and Tierney Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henry Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 My opinion has changed on Hickey, I thought the best thing for his progression was to leave and go to City. That was really to protect him from the shambles around about him. He’s being asked to do far too much far too soon. Just hope Stendal can look after him better than Levein & co. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperstarSteve Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 No doubt in my mind a deal with city is finalised in January and hickey is loaned back untill end of season. I Would rather he stayed and progressed like CP but can’t see it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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