Hectormasson Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 Daily mail reported this , ? Any truth in matter ? Along side Barnsley want money from hearts if stendel signs......? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howdy Doody Jambo Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 (edited) Celtic will also be wanting a cut from any fee we get Edited December 3, 2019 by Still Tynie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hectormasson Posted December 3, 2019 Author Share Posted December 3, 2019 1 minute ago, Still Tynie said: Celtic will also be wanting a cut from any fee we get Sadly👎👎👎💩 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemclaren Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 Sell him then loan him back. Helps fund our ‘transition’ to Stendel. Not beyond the realms of possibility. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hectormasson Posted December 3, 2019 Author Share Posted December 3, 2019 1 minute ago, davemclaren said: Sell him then loan him back. Helps fund our ‘transition’ to Stendel. Not beyond the realms of possibility. Good idea 👍🇶🇦🇶🇦 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graygo Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 He's pish anyway, ruined by Levein and McPhee. Read it on here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graygo Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 7 minutes ago, farin said: Seen this earlier about it. Cue the seethe about Levein being there. With some justification to be fair. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
letsalldothebeattie Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 56 minutes ago, Hectormasson said: Daily mail reported this , ? Any truth in matter ? Along side Barnsley want money from hearts if stendel signs......? No truth in this as Barnsley paid up joe contract last week freeing him up to take a job with no compensation to be paid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coburg Hearts Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 28 minutes ago, letsalldothebeattie said: No truth in this as Barnsley paid up joe contract last week freeing him up to take a job with no compensation to be paid They seem to be pretty sure they have a case. Hope you're right. Barnsley have written to Hearts demanding money for the appointment of Daniel Stendel. The German is poised to put pen to paper on a deal to succeed Craig Levein. And Tynecastle owner Ann Budge hopes to have the 45-year-old signed and sealed before Wednesday night's home league clash with Livingston. Despite being relieved of his duties in October, however, Stendel is still on the payroll of the Championship club. And with the two parties yet to agree a final severance package, Barnsley chief executive Paul Conway has contacted Hearts seeking compensation in return for releasing Stendel. 'We still have a valid contract with Daniel Stendel until the end of the season,' Conway told Sportsmail on Monday. 'There is already a tampering issue with us concerning his existing contract. 'And if anybody else is tampering with our rights, we are going to expect compensation.' Conway admitted Hearts have yet to respond - but insisted that he will take legal action to pursue the matter if necessary. 'Hearts have our letter and we have notified them and, if they want to hire Daniel, that's fine, that's their choice,' said the Oakwell chief. 'But they either pay us now or we will file a claim against them. And if any club wants to fight it, we will win.' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pagey Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 1 hour ago, graygo said: Cue the seethe about Levein being there. With some justification to be fair. Wonder if he's on a cut of any Academy sell on's? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 1 hour ago, Coburg Hearts said: They seem to be pretty sure they have a case. Hope you're right. Barnsley have written to Hearts demanding money for the appointment of Daniel Stendel. The German is poised to put pen to paper on a deal to succeed Craig Levein. And Tynecastle owner Ann Budge hopes to have the 45-year-old signed and sealed before Wednesday night's home league clash with Livingston. Despite being relieved of his duties in October, however, Stendel is still on the payroll of the Championship club. And with the two parties yet to agree a final severance package, Barnsley chief executive Paul Conway has contacted Hearts seeking compensation in return for releasing Stendel. 'We still have a valid contract with Daniel Stendel until the end of the season,' Conway told Sportsmail on Monday. 'There is already a tampering issue with us concerning his existing contract. 'And if anybody else is tampering with our rights, we are going to expect compensation.' Conway admitted Hearts have yet to respond - but insisted that he will take legal action to pursue the matter if necessary. 'Hearts have our letter and we have notified them and, if they want to hire Daniel, that's fine, that's their choice,' said the Oakwell chief. 'But they either pay us now or we will file a claim against them. And if any club wants to fight it, we will win.' Barnsley are on tae plums. They sacked him and the judge will say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sid Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 2 hours ago, graygo said: Cue the seethe about Levein being there. With some justification to be fair. What fricken justification. How can you berate Ann on everything football and same breath put her down for helping land a great deal with an experienced Board Member. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DH1986 Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 Sell him.....take him back on an 18 month loan deal and give Herr Dan the money to invest in the playing staff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo 4 Ever Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 11 minutes ago, Sid said: What fricken justification. How can you berate Ann on everything football and same breath put her down for helping land a great deal with an experienced Board Member. Ex member Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamhammer Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 If the Daily Mail told me it was raining outside I'd put me speedos on an go and have a sunbahe. Fascist rag. As for Levein going to Manchester he probably knows the lad a lot better than Ann TBF so no problem with that at all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Boy Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 What a grubby little club Barnsley are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NANOJAMBO Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 3 hours ago, Coburg Hearts said: They seem to be pretty sure they have a case. Hope you're right. Barnsley have written to Hearts demanding money for the appointment of Daniel Stendel. The German is poised to put pen to paper on a deal to succeed Craig Levein. And Tynecastle owner Ann Budge hopes to have the 45-year-old signed and sealed before Wednesday night's home league clash with Livingston. Despite being relieved of his duties in October, however, Stendel is still on the payroll of the Championship club. And with the two parties yet to agree a final severance package, Barnsley chief executive Paul Conway has contacted Hearts seeking compensation in return for releasing Stendel. 'We still have a valid contract with Daniel Stendel until the end of the season,' Conway told Sportsmail on Monday. 'There is already a tampering issue with us concerning his existing contract. 'And if anybody else is tampering with our rights, we are going to expect compensation.' Conway admitted Hearts have yet to respond - but insisted that he will take legal action to pursue the matter if necessary. 'Hearts have our letter and we have notified them and, if they want to hire Daniel, that's fine, that's their choice,' said the Oakwell chief. 'But they either pay us now or we will file a claim against them. And if any club wants to fight it, we will win.' Seems straightforward enough. He's still being paid and Barnsley will want to be paid back. Stendal gets paid until his contract runs out with likely a clause he can't take up another job within a given period - as Spurs have allegedly done with Pocchetino. The only thing I dont get is the tone of Barsley CEO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Boy Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 1 minute ago, NANOJAMBO said: Seems straightforward enough. He's still being paid and Barnsley will want to be paid back. Stendal gets paid until his contract runs out with likely a clause he can't take up another job within a given period - as Spurs have allegedly done with Pocchetino. The only thing I dont get is the tone of Barsley CEO. Why was he placed on gardening leave and not sacked. There’s the bit I’d like to know. If Barnsley didn’t want him to do the job he was contracted to them to do, then why keep him on the payroll and not stop paying him, allowing them and him to move on? Barnsley CEO comes across as a bit of a dick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1874robbo Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 4 hours ago, farin said: Seen this earlier about it. So much for him not having anything to do with first team affairs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NANOJAMBO Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 1 minute ago, Icon of Symmetry said: Why was he placed on gardening leave and not sacked. There’s the bit I’d like to know. If Barnsley didn’t want him to do the job he was contracted to them to do, then why keep him on the payroll and not stop paying him, allowing them and him to move on? Barnsley CEO comes across as a bit of a dick. Sacked managers usually stay on the payroll until their contract is paid up. I don't see Stendal's situation as being unusual in that regard. Again there may be a clause about future employment. I agree the Barnsley guy sounds a right tosser in that piece. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Boy Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 1 minute ago, NANOJAMBO said: Sacked managers usually stay on the payroll until their contract is paid up. I don't see Stendal's situation as being unusual in that regard. Again there may be a clause about future employment. I agree the Barnsley guy sounds a right tosser in that piece. Seems a bit silly to me, personally. If you relieve a manager of his duties, you should pay him up, and both parties can get on with their future imo. Fair enough if he’s been offered, and agreed to take another role at the club, but I don’t think that’s the case here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meadows Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 Hickey doesn’t have an agent , I believe his dad negotiates on his behalf . Levein possibly acting as double agent ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkishcap Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 42 minutes ago, Meadows said: Hickey doesn’t have an agent , I believe his dad negotiates on his behalf . Levein possibly acting as double agent ? 00 064? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indianajones Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 1 hour ago, 1874robbo said: So much for him not having anything to do with first team affairs. This. If true we should all be going mental the now. Levein GTF you parasite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nookie Bear Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 This may be a daft question but, if Man City want to hit Hickey, why are they not sending reps to Edinburgh? Why are we going down there? Was Hickey with them to have a look around? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1874robbo Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 7 minutes ago, Nookie Bear said: This may be a daft question but, if Man City want to hit Hickey, why are they not sending reps to Edinburgh? Why are we going down there? Was Hickey with them to have a look around? Why do they want to hit him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingantti1874 Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 10 minutes ago, Nookie Bear said: This may be a daft question but, if Man City want to hit Hickey, why are they not sending reps to Edinburgh? Why are we going down there? Was Hickey with them to have a look around? May be more than sale of Aaron Hickey.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qferryjam Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 1 hour ago, Icon of Symmetry said: Why was he placed on gardening leave and not sacked. There’s the bit I’d like to know. If Barnsley didn’t want him to do the job he was contracted to them to do, then why keep him on the payroll and not stop paying him, allowing them and him to move on? Barnsley CEO comes across as a bit of a dick. TBF is he lives in Barnsley, it’s enough to make a Saint angry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1971fozzy Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 Not like the Mail to stir it right enough Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pettigrewsstylist Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 5 hours ago, Coburg Hearts said: They seem to be pretty sure they have a case. Hope you're right. Barnsley have written to Hearts demanding money for the appointment of Daniel Stendel. The German is poised to put pen to paper on a deal to succeed Craig Levein. And Tynecastle owner Ann Budge hopes to have the 45-year-old signed and sealed before Wednesday night's home league clash with Livingston. Despite being relieved of his duties in October, however, Stendel is still on the payroll of the Championship club. And with the two parties yet to agree a final severance package, Barnsley chief executive Paul Conway has contacted Hearts seeking compensation in return for releasing Stendel. 'We still have a valid contract with Daniel Stendel until the end of the season,' Conway told Sportsmail on Monday. 'There is already a tampering issue with us concerning his existing contract. 'And if anybody else is tampering with our rights, we are going to expect compensation.' Conway admitted Hearts have yet to respond - but insisted that he will take legal action to pursue the matter if necessary. 'Hearts have our letter and we have notified them and, if they want to hire Daniel, that's fine, that's their choice,' said the Oakwell chief. 'But they either pay us now or we will file a claim against them. And if any club wants to fight it, we will win.' Is it really worth if for a rookie with no previous exposure to Scotland and no real desire to he here? II would look elsewhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E6 Inc Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 I'd be surprised if City would want Hickey after the past month or so, hes been quite poor. Definitely has potential but really fear he is going to go the way of Cochrane and his progression will stall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morph Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 3 minutes ago, E6 Inc said: I'd be surprised if City would want Hickey after the past month or so, hes been quite poor. Definitely has potential but really fear he is going to go the way of Cochrane and his progression will stall. He’s 17 and is only just having his first bad wee patch of form. Let’s not write him off yet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forever Hearts Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 2 hours ago, Jamhammer said: If the Daily Mail told me it was raining outside I'd put me speedos on an go and have a sunbahe. Fascist rag. As for Levein going to Manchester he probably knows the lad a lot better than Ann TBF so no problem with that at all 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vegas-voss Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 7 minutes ago, E6 Inc said: I'd be surprised if City would want Hickey after the past month or so, hes been quite poor. Definitely has potential but really fear he is going to go the way of Cochrane and his progression will stall. I'm sure they have based their assessment 9ver the past month when the team have been absolute shite right enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusk_Till_Dawn Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 2 minutes ago, Barack said: Would kind of blow Meshino's arrival out the water too. "Hearts were crap last season, and chances are they'll be worse this one too. Enjoy yourself, Ryo." Hickey has been a rare nugget of sweetcorn, in amongst the giant pile of shite. He’s also been horrendously managed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
busby1985 Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 I wouldn’t be surprised to read that Hickey and his family asked Levein to be part of any discussion with City. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusk_Till_Dawn Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 3 minutes ago, busby1985 said: I wouldn’t be surprised to read that Hickey and his family asked Levein to be part of any discussion with City. Can see Levein being part of EU trade deal talks at this rate. Truly a hero of modern times Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heartsofgold Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 19 minutes ago, E6 Inc said: I'd be surprised if City would want Hickey after the past month or so, hes been quite poor. Definitely has potential but really fear he is going to go the way of Cochrane and his progression will stall. Was Andy Robertson the finished article at 17/18?? Behave man!! Hickey is having a drop in form and if I’m honest, needs a wee spell out of 1st team action to recover and build up again. The boy has class and that’s what the big teams will see. He will go down south and get polished into a gem of a player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kila Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Dusk_Till_Dawn said: Can see Levein being part of EU trade deal talks at this rate. Truly a hero of modern times Maybe Levein is due a cut of the Hickey sale Edited December 3, 2019 by kila Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudy T Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 5 hours ago, Pagey said: Wonder if he's on a cut of any Academy sell on's? I doubt it but you can be sure it’ll become fact by the end of the day!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waterboy11 Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 Was always on the cards, part of agreement for Meshino deal was city got first option on Hickey. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
busby1985 Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 9 minutes ago, Dusk_Till_Dawn said: Can see Levein being part of EU trade deal talks at this rate. Truly a hero of modern times Haha. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Gentleman Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 2 hours ago, NANOJAMBO said: Seems straightforward enough. He's still being paid and Barnsley will want to be paid back. Stendal gets paid until his contract runs out with likely a clause he can't take up another job within a given period - as Spurs have allegedly done with Pocchetino. The only thing I dont get is the tone of Barsley CEO. Typical grim, combative Yorkshire tone, no? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hungry hippo Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 5 hours ago, Pagey said: Wonder if he's on a cut of any Academy sell on's? Ask at the AGM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Treasurer Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 7 hours ago, Still Tynie said: Celtic will also be wanting a cut from any fee we get Simple way round that. Give them Hickey for free and sell them Steven Mclean for £5m Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E6 Inc Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 45 minutes ago, Morph said: He’s 17 and is only just having his first bad wee patch of form. Let’s not write him off yet 45 minutes ago, Barack said: He's ****ed. 19 out of 21 games or something played. He needs rested, or yes, he'll be burnt out. He's still outperformed more of his more "experienced" team-mates in that time. Which tells you more about the child(as he is) as a person & future prospects, imo. 28 minutes ago, Heartsofgold said: Was Andy Robertson the finished article at 17/18?? Behave man!! Hickey is having a drop in form and if I’m honest, needs a wee spell out of 1st team action to recover and build up again. The boy has class and that’s what the big teams will see. He will go down south and get polished into a gem of a player. Easy now, all I said was I'd be surprised if Man City, one of the best teams in Europe, were after him given he's been poor for us recently. I'm not saying hes not a classy player but come on, hes hardly looked like a player that would make it to a top 4 EPL side has he? Hes got massive potential but he needs a spell out of the team, not least for his own confidence. Have no doubt a better manager will get more out of him. We all got very excited about Cochrane remember... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E6 Inc Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 2 minutes ago, Barack said: I'll take it from my side: Man City aren't wanting him immediately. It's doubtful he'll ever play for them in the 1st team, given the competition. They will however, help him develop & improve to levels beyond what we could ever hope to achieve here. He could be loaned out to their feeder teams in Holland, like Zinchencko was, for example. Then, 4 or 5 years down the line given the false market in England, he could be sold to a lower level team somewhere, for upwards of £10 million easily. Why? Because he's British & he'd potentially be a Manchester City player, & developed further by their World Class Academy. City are playing the numbers game here, not looking to start him next year at United. They're talking about loaning him back to us so that kind of ends that 😆 I get what you're saying but I really cannot see City paying the kind of cash we are talking about for Hickey right now. Maybe someone in the premiership will one day. Maybe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AGoodLaugh Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 6 minutes ago, Barack said: I'll take it from my side: Man City aren't wanting him immediately. It's doubtful he'll ever play for them in the 1st team, given the competition. They will however, help him develop & improve to levels beyond what we could ever hope to achieve here. He could be loaned out to their feeder teams in Holland, like Zinchencko was, for example. Then, 4 or 5 years down the line given the false market in England, he could be sold to a lower level team somewhere, for upwards of £10 million easily. Why? Because he's British & he'd potentially be a Manchester City player, & developed further by their World Class Academy. City are playing the numbers game here, not looking to start him next year at United. Yup - and even in the worst case scenario where he never fulfills his potential the money they spend on him will be pocket change to them anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Boy Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 1 hour ago, busby1985 said: I wouldn’t be surprised to read that Hickey and his family asked Levein to be part of any discussion with City. That was my first thoughts too. Outside of the idiots in our fan base, most people who deal with the man seem to respect him when it comes to such things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E6 Inc Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 7 minutes ago, Barack said: Yeah, but he'll go back there. We'll maybe only get Hickey for a season. Like a pity ****. Think you're being unreasonably harsh on the kid, mate. Money matters shit to Manchester City. Or most team's in the Championship for that matter. If they see the potential, they'll pay for it. Despite what us Jock hillbillies think.🙂 I would be very happy to be proved wrong mate. Our annual turnover is about £14m so a £5m sale of a player would be unbelievable for us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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