Jack Ross

[Howdy Doody Jambo]

10 minutes ago, John Gentleman said:

Got a feeling this could well be a real 'left-field' appointment. Maybe Dutch, Belgian, Danish......whatever? It's only a gut feel, but potential Scots managers are small fish in a small goldfish bowl. The most plausable suggestion of the lot - Robinson - fails to get me excited.

I hope it's a Brazilian, Argentinian Italian German type person rolled into one 

[jambonian]

I liked watching the Daniel Stendel video that was on kickback a few days back. Everything Ann says she's looking for was exactly what was said on the video. His German coaching background would make us very difficult to beat, had vastly improved players that were already at that club, encouraged young players to kick on (and not stall). Then add to that he would have some decent connections/scouts in Europe for recruitment and wouldn't be shit-scared of Celtic and Rangers-2012 or their "reputations" so for me that would be a very exciting and interesting appointment. And if budget dictates and we can only recruit from within then looking round, I can't see anyone (affordable) better than Robinson. They seem to lose players at the end of every season yet still manage to be competitive by signing pretty decent players. Heard that it's his assistant that identifies players along with (it would seem) decent scouts.

[JamboAl]

11 minutes ago, Rudy T said:

Jack Ross, Austin MacPhee and Craig Levein all at the club at the same time, effectively just stepping up from their previous roles into the one above............. all sounds a bit familiar to me and not exactly a change in direction.

 

I just don't see it happening nor do I think the fans would be that happy!

 

 

You make a fair point.

Rightly or wrongly, the manager has been sacked and I would wonder about the sanity of this if we are going to go in the same direction with a tribute act.  The players and the fans are looking for something new and shiny and that must be delivered if we are all going to pull together to make a stronger club.

[jambonian]

8 minutes ago, sassenach said:

Is there an actual quote that Ross has turned Hibs down?

 

Dotnet are saying that the only mention of it is here. Apparently we have made it up so that we can look like the big team if he comes to Hearts 

To be honest he can go to Hibs for all I care. He'd turn them into mid-table mediocrity and draw specialists.  I might even be slightly relieved if he went there knowing he wasn't going to be here.

[BervieJambo]

I would be surprised if Jack Ross wants either of the Hearts or Hibs jobs - it doesn't do much for his career progression. The best he can do is become another McInnes and he has hardly raised his stock south of the border despite his relative success at Aberdeen. Ross would be better taking a club like Carlisle up the leagues where he would more likely eventually earn a chance at a Championship club where he can prove himself properly. Scottish managers often only get one chance in England and if that doesn't work out, returning to Scotland is not going to help secure another one. I'll support him if he's here, but I don't think it's the right match for club or manager.

[Rudy T]

32 minutes ago, JamboAl said:

You make a fair point.

Rightly or wrongly, the manager has been sacked and I would wonder about the sanity of this if we are going to go in the same direction with a tribute act.  The players and the fans are looking for something new and shiny and that must be delivered if we are all going to pull together to make a stronger club.

 

MacPhee and Ross have their merits individually I just don't see how having them all at the club would bring any real change in direction as I can't see how Ross and MacPhee and aligned in terms of how they seemingly want to play.

 

After listening to sports sound last night I get the feeling if MacPhee doesn't get a job here he'll be off to Stoke. 

[GavK1012]

1 hour ago, Paul Shark said:

How's that ? You honestly think that Jack Ross is the " best" candidate that has applied for the job ? Dear Lord indeed 😂😂😂😂😂( added purely for condescending effect 👍).

 

Not sure why you have quoted "best", who has said that? Again you are going to have to clarify, where did I suggest he was my favourite or "best" 🤔?

 

I commented against the thinking if he got the job, it would be a Levein appointment as the previous poster alluded to the Levein clan of coaches past and present....

 

Pay attention at the back boyo!😪😴

[Hearts007]

14 hours ago, communist said:

Not enthused by Jack Ross if it's to be him. Still hoping for better. 

This

[Paul Shark]

7 minutes ago, GavK1012 said:

 

Not sure why you have quoted "best", who has said that? Again you are going to have to clarify, where did I suggest he was my favourite or "best" 🤔?

 

I commented against the thinking if he got the job, it would be a Levein appointment as the previous poster alluded to the Levein clan of coaches past and present....

 

Pay attention at the back boyo!😪😴

I never said Ross would be a Levein appointment. I said it would suggest he still has some influence. 

I think for now we have to trust that Ann will be true to her word on the criteria she said she was looking  for regarding a new coach and if she is,  it won't be Jack Ross. 

Anyway must dash double maths and history this afternoon 👍

[Debut 4]

16 minutes ago, Hearts007 said:

This

This this.

[Ethan Hunt]

14 hours ago, Placid Casual said:

 

What nonsense. He was awful at Sunderland. Tactically inept, poor decision-making and bad signings.

 

Jack Dross, the Sunderland fans called him.

 

Sunderland being relegated twice isn’t nonsense.

 

Jack Ross taking Sunderland to the play off finals isn’t nonsense.

 

Ross taking them to a Wembley final isn’t nonsense.

 

I think you’ll find the above is actually fact!

 

He was no worse than the manager before him or the current one. Sunderland’s demise into mediocrity began long before Jack Ross appeared anywhere near there. Sunderland will wallow in mediocrity for some time yet regardless of how big a club the are.  Poorly managed from top to bottom.

Edited November 13, 2019 by Ethan Hunt

[Selkirkhmfc1874]

32 minutes ago, Ethan Hunt said:

 

Sunderland being relegated twice isn’t nonsense.

 

Jack Ross taking Sunderland to the play off finals isn’t nonsense.

 

Ross taking them to a Wembley final isn’t nonsense.

 

I think you’ll find the above is actually fact!

 

He was no worse than the manager before him or the current one. Sunderland’s demise into mediocrity began long before Jack Ross appeared anywhere near there. Sunderland will wallow in mediocrity for some time yet regardless of how big a club the are.  Poorly managed from top to bottom.

Agree with you they were in decline long before jack ross went there 

[jamboinglasgow]

Is there actually any indication that Strendel is actually interested in the job?

[S Form]

3 hours ago, sassenach said:

Is there an actual quote that Ross has turned Hibs down?

 

Dotnet are saying that the only mention of it is here. Apparently we have made it up so that we can look like the big team if he comes to Hearts 

If it’s true that John Kennedy is favourite for the Hibs job Jack Ross’s agent might be putting about that he’s turned them down in order to save face.

[Cruyff Turn]

14 minutes ago, jamboinglasgow said:

Is there actually any indication that Strendel is actually interested in the job?

Guys like Stendel aren’t desperado’s, dross or has beens, so it’s unlikely he’d apply. 

 

It’s up to us to go and get guys of that calibre instead of sifting through piles of shite cv’s.

[Jambo647]

5 minutes ago, Cruyff Turn said:

Guys like Stendel aren’t desperado’s, dross or has beens, so it’s unlikely he’d apply. 

 

It’s up to us to go and get guys of that calibre instead of sifting through piles of shite cv’s.

This in a nutshell, good managers and coaches don’t send in CV’S.

If we want a top coach we will need to approach him, has beens and never was’s will apply, if we want a top coach we will need to tap them up... that is the way top clubs with ambition play the game

Closing dates and CV’s... have a word 

[davemclaren]

8 minutes ago, Cruyff Turn said:

Guys like Stendel aren’t desperado’s, dross or has beens, so it’s unlikely he’d apply. 

 

It’s up to us to go and get guys of that calibre instead of sifting through piles of shite cv’s.

A guy who has been sacked by Barnsley? I don’t expect there will be that much demand for him. 

[Cruyff Turn]

Just now, davemclaren said:

A guy who has been sacked by Barnsley? I don’t expect there will be that much demand for him. 

Harshly sacked by Barnsley.

All managers get sacked. Pep Guardiola will be getting sacked soon if he doesn’t win a trophy this season. I doubt he’ll be handing around CV’s looking for his next job though. 

 

1 minute ago, Jambo647 said:

This in a nutshell, good managers and coaches don’t send in CV’S.

If we want a top coach we will need to approach him, has beens and never was’s will apply, if we want a top coach we will need to tap them up... that is the way top clubs with ambition play the game

Closing dates and CV’s... have a word 

In spades 👏🏻

[davemclaren]

15 minutes ago, Cruyff Turn said:

Harshly sacked by Barnsley.

All managers get sacked. Pep Guardiola will be getting sacked soon if he doesn’t win a trophy this season. I doubt he’ll be handing around CV’s looking for his next job though. 

 

In spades 👏🏻

Stendel might well be decent but he’s nowhere near Pep’s status. I think he’ll be sniffing out his next job with his agent. 

[Bridge of Djoum]

5 hours ago, Paul Shark said:

If Ann Budge appointments Jack Ross as our head coach it suggests to me that Craig Levein is still heavily influencing her decisions. 

[Paul Shark]

8 minutes ago, Bridge of Djoum said:

Ah, the witty put down, well played sir. Another doozie from your good self 👍

[Cruyff Turn]

7 minutes ago, davemclaren said:

Stendel might wel be decent but he’s nowhere near Pep’s status. I think he’ll be sniffing out his next job with his agent. 

Of course he’s not but I doubt he’d be sending CV’s to top clubs either.

 

Stendel will get a Championship gig or one in Bundesliga 1 or 2. Even though he was fired, he’s did well at Barnsley and did reasonably well in his first gig. 

 

The thing that that stands out with him though is that he has a philosophy and a style, to press high and play attacking football at a high tempo. Much in the same sense Klopp does at Liverpool. 

 

This is what we need. A complete change in mentality and to be an exciting side to watch.

 

Nathan Jones is another who should have been on a shortlist. He had a miserable time at Stoke but he skooshed two Leagues with Luton Town. 

 

Unfortunately it looks like we’re going to end up with someone from the CV pile, which isn’t the way this appointment should have been conducted. 

[Bridge of Djoum]

1 minute ago, Paul Shark said:

Ah, the witty put down, well played sir. Another doozie from your good self 👍

Come on, eh? Anyone thinking CL still has any significant sway deserves to be ridiculed.

 

He doesn't, at all. Let it go, move on.

[Bridge of Djoum]

2 minutes ago, Cruyff Turn said:

Of course he’s not but I doubt he’d be sending CV’s to top clubs either.

 

Stendel will get a Championship gig or one in Bundesliga 1 or 2. Even though he was fired, he’s did well at Barnsley and did reasonably well in his first gig. 

 

The thing that that stands out with him though is that he has a philosophy and a style, to press high and play attacking football at a high tempo. Much in the same sense Klopp does at Liverpool. 

 

This is what we need. A complete change in mentality and to be an exciting side to watch.

 

Nathan Jones is another who should have been on a shortlist. He had a miserable time at Stoke but he skooshed two Leagues with Luton Town. 

 

Unfortunately it looks like we’re going to end up with someone from the CV pile, which isn’t the way this appointment should have been conducted. 

There is absolutely no way of knowing this. We don't know how it's being conducted. which CV's we have, what the process is, who the Sporting Director will be, which apparently will be the 1st appointment. The rest of your post was good but the bit in bold is plain garbage.

[Tasavallan]

27 minutes ago, davemclaren said:

A guy who has been sacked by Barnsley? I don’t expect there will be that much demand for him. 

 

Oh! I don't know, ex-Barnsley jobsworths would appear to have been exceptional to some.

[davemclaren]

5 minutes ago, Cruyff Turn said:

Of course he’s not but I doubt he’d be sending CV’s to top clubs either.

 

Stendel will get a Championship gig or one in Bundesliga 1 or 2. Even though he was fired, he’s did well at Barnsley and did reasonably well in his first gig. 

 

The thing that that stands out with him though is that he has a philosophy and a style, to press high and play attacking football at a high tempo. Much in the same sense Klopp does at Liverpool. 

 

This is what we need. A complete change in mentality and to be an exciting side to watch.

 

Nathan Jones is another who should have been on a shortlist. He had a miserable time at Stoke but he skooshed two Leagues with Luton Town. 

 

Unfortunately it looks like we’re going to end up with someone from the CV pile, which isn’t the way this appointment should have been conducted. 

I’m not saying he would necessarily be a bad choice for us I just don’t think he is as in as much demand as you think. I doubt his next job will be as a head coach in Bundesliga 1 given he failed in Bundesliga 2. 

[soonbe110]

8 minutes ago, Cruyff Turn said:

Of course he’s not but I doubt he’d be sending CV’s to top clubs either.

 

Stendel will get a Championship gig or one in Bundesliga 1 or 2. Even though he was fired, he’s did well at Barnsley and did reasonably well in his first gig. 

 

The thing that that stands out with him though is that he has a philosophy and a style, to press high and play attacking football at a high tempo. Much in the same sense Klopp does at Liverpool. 

 

This is what we need. A complete change in mentality and to be an exciting side to watch.

 

Nathan Jones is another who should have been on a shortlist. He had a miserable time at Stoke but he skooshed two Leagues with Luton Town. 

 

Unfortunately it looks like we’re going to end up with someone from the CV pile, which isn’t the way this appointment should have been conducted. 

How do you know what process has been used to find a new manager? Just interested how you know. 

[davemclaren]

2 minutes ago, Tasavallan said:

 

Oh! I don't know, ex-Barnsley jobsworths would appear to have been exceptional to some.

Hearts about 110 years ago. 😎

[Paul Shark]

12 minutes ago, Bridge of Djoum said:

Come on, eh? Anyone thinking CL still has any significant sway deserves to be ridiculed.

 

He doesn't, at all. Let it go, move on.

Yes, I think we have to trust Ann Budge on that one and because of that Jack Ross will not be our next Head Coach.  That is why I never said Craig Levein will pick Jack Ross as our next Head Coach 👍

Edited November 13, 2019 by Paul Shark

[Bridge of Djoum]

Just now, Paul Shark said:

Yes, I think we have to trust Ann Budge on that one and because of that Jack Ross will not be our next Head Coach. 

I agree and personally I'm happy he won't be. I don't think hiring an ex employee is the correct move. Fresh, innovative, bold new start is what we need.

[Absolute Scenes]

18 minutes ago, Paul Shark said:

Ah, the witty put down, well played sir. Another doozie from your good self 👍

 

If you could let go if your pathetic hatred for Levein for one minute, and re-read what you've written: Craig Levein and Jack Ross HATED each other, so why would Levein (if he was pulling the strings as you put it) push to employ someone he hates? really weird post

[redjambo]

1 minute ago, Absolute Scenes said:

 

If you could let go if your pathetic hatred for Levein for one minute, and re-read what you've written: Craig Levein and Jack Ross HATED each other, so why would Levein (if he was pulling the strings as you put it) push to employ someone he hates? really weird post

 

Exactamundo.

[busby1985]

We have no reason not to trust Budge. We may, and I did, disagree with how long it took to remove Levein but she was true to her word, he wasn’t bomb proof. She acted having given him a round of fixtures, a fair crack at the whip as she said and as she said she would. Budge said she wants a sporting Director and a manager, I think we will see the sporting Director first then a manager. Budge also said we would be looking to appoint someone with experience and someone who had a high profile, again, we have no reason to doubt she won’t. The names that are being banded about are coming from us on here and or the press. Hearts are a closed book to the press, as we seen with Levein being sacked with literally no one having a clue it was coming. We can speculate till we are blue in the face about who we would like brought in, but it’ll be pointless as I think both appointments will be left field and we won’t know about it till it’s announced or the club want us to know. All the names linked to us are also linked to hibs and are also in the running for the NI job and all the jobs down south. That’s because it’s pure guess work from the bookies and the media. I fully trust Budge to do what’s best and to appoint who she feels is best for us. 

[Bridge of Djoum]

12 minutes ago, Absolute Scenes said:

 

If you could let go if your pathetic hatred for Levein for one minute, and re-read what you've written: Craig Levein and Jack Ross HATED each other, so why would Levein (if he was pulling the strings as you put it) push to employ someone he hates? really weird post

[Bridge of Djoum]

1 minute ago, busby1985 said:

We have no reason not to trust Budge. We may, and I did, disagree with how long it took to remove Levein but she was true to her word, he wasn’t bomb proof. She acted having given him a round of fixtures, a fair crack at the whip as she said and as she said she would. Budge said she wants a sporting Director and a manager, I think we will see the sporting Director first then a manager. Budge also said we would be looking to appoint someone with experience and someone who had a high profile, again, we have no reason to doubt she won’t. The names that are being banded about are coming from us on here and or the press. Hearts are a closed book to the press, as we seen with Levein being sacked with literally no one having a clue it was coming. We can speculate till we are blue in the face about who we would like brought in, but it’ll be pointless as I think both appointments will be left field and we won’t know about it till it’s announced or the club want us to know. All the names linked to us are also linked to hibs and are also in the running for the NI job and all the jobs down south. That’s because it’s pure guess work from the bookies and the media. I fully trust Budge to do what’s best and to appoint who she feels is best for us. 

Nah. Better to invent things then watch as roasters become apoplectic at completely made up stuff. 

[Paul Shark]

6 minutes ago, Absolute Scenes said:

 

If you could let go if your pathetic hatred for Levein for one minute, and re-read what you've written: Craig Levein and Jack Ross HATED each other, so why would Levein (if he was pulling the strings as you put it) push to employ someone he hates? really weird post

😂. Thanks for making me laugh. My pathetic hatred for Craig Levein ? My point was more the absolutely lack of merit in Jack Ross being even considered for the job. 

As I have also said that we have to trust Ann Budge, so in that respect have to think that Craig Levein has no real influence at the club. You've got a lot of people hating a lot of people in your world. I'm no expert but that can't be healthy 👍

[Cruyff Turn]

15 minutes ago, Bridge of Djoum said:

There is absolutely no way of knowing this. We don't know how it's being conducted. which CV's we have, what the process is, who the Sporting Director will be, which apparently will be the 1st appointment. The rest of your post was good but the bit in bold is plain garbage.

Well we do know how because Ann Budge said she was inviting CV’s.

 

We did the same thing last time and we ended up with Craig Levein! 

 

Anyone on this board can do 10 minutes research and find literally 100’s of managers from across the world who are out of work.

 

You could pick 20 decent ones and stick them on a shortlist, then do more background research and reduce that shortlist, rinse and repeat until you’ve got 5-10 targets you might want to speak to.

 

You could do the same looking for a manager at another club. Someone who has a good track record as manager and someone who is a realistic possibility.

 

We all know Billy Davies, Owen Coyle and all the other shite under the sun are out of work and looking for a position. Surely if we wanted them, all we had to do is pick up the phone, no? 

 

So why were we inviting CV’s as of last Friday ? 

 

And surely if the Sporting Director was the 1st appointment, we’d be asking him his opinion of who the next manager should be and not inviting CV’s because you’d expect any Sporting Director worth a sook to have knowledge of who’s who and who we should go after, no? 

 

11 minutes ago, soonbe110 said:

How do you know what process has been used to find a new manager? Just interested how you know. 

How do I know?

 

Because that’s what Ann Budge said. 

[ColJT22]

17 hours ago, Bring Back Paulo Sergio said:

Would still rather give MacPhee a chance.

Agreed. Jack Ross has failed with a big budget when expected to do well. 

 

Unless a bigger name than MacPhee comes in with pedigree, I reckon we give MacPhee some time as interim. Then we will know if he is correct for job. 

[Bridge of Djoum]

3 minutes ago, Cruyff Turn said:

Well we do know how because Ann Budge said she was inviting CV’s.

 

We did the same thing last time and we ended up with Craig Levein! 

 

Anyone on this board can do 10 minutes research and find literally 100’s of managers from across the world who are out of work.

 

You could pick 20 decent ones and stick them on a shortlist, then do more background research and reduce that shortlist, rinse and repeat until you’ve got 5-10 targets you might want to speak to.

 

You could do the same looking for a manager at another club. Someone who has a good track record as manager and someone who is a realistic possibility.

 

We all know Billy Davies, Owen Coyle and all the other shite under the sun are out of work and looking for a position. Surely if we wanted them, all we had to do is pick up the phone, no? 

 

So why were we inviting CV’s as of last Friday ? 

 

And surely if the Sporting Director was the 1st appointment, we’d be asking him his opinion of who the next manager should be and not inviting CV’s because you’d expect any Sporting Director worth a sook to have knowledge of who’s who and who we should go after, no? 

 

How do I know?

 

Because that’s what Ann Budge said. 

I'd imagine she is inviting CV's as well as having her own names in mind, on advice from a range of people. I don't think the lady is limiting her search to simple CV applications. 

[Cruyff Turn]

1 minute ago, Bridge of Djoum said:

I'd imagine she is inviting CV's as well as having her own names in mind, on advice from a range of people. I don't think the lady is limiting her search to simple CV applications. 

I don’t see the point in inviting CV’s though, it just makes for a lengthier process and it’s completely unnecessary. As explained, we can find all that information we need  in a few minutes. 

 

I’d certainly hope she is not.

 

Don’t get me wrong, there will be plenty good managers that are currently unattached but some might not even be aware that there is a vacant position. So it is up to us to find them.

 

I do not have much faith in the board tbh to make the right decision. They have made a dugs dinner of the previous two appointments, as well as their hesitation to end them much sooner. That is why we find ourselves where we are at the moment. 🤷🏼‍♂️

 

It’s an extremely important appointment, possibly the most important in years given fans ownership is on the cards very soon.

 

If this goes tits for arse once again, many supporters could lose faith & trust in this structure and start to withdraw funds after the transfer of ownership leaving us worse off, especially if some members of the current board are still at the helm.

 

They simply cannot afford to make the wrong choices this time around and publicly announcing that they are inviting CV’s just gives me the fear that they might.  😬

[Bridge of Djoum]

Just now, Cruyff Turn said:

I don’t see the point in inviting CV’s though, it just makes for a lengthier process and it’s completely unnecessary. As explained, we can find all that information we need  in a few minutes. 

 

I’d certainly hope she is not.

 

Don’t get me wrong, there will be plenty good managers that are currently unattached but some might not even be aware that there is a vacant position. So it is up to us to find them.

 

I do not have much faith in the board tbh to make the right decision. They have made a dugs dinner of the previous two appointments, as well as their hesitation to end them much sooner. That is why we find ourselves where we are at the moment. 🤷🏼‍♂️

 

It’s an extremely important appointment, possibly the most important in years given fans ownership is on the cards very soon.

 

If this goes tits for arse once again, many supporters could lose faith & trust in this structure and start to withdraw funds after the transfer of ownership leaving us worse off, especially if some members of the current board are still at the helm.

 

They simply cannot afford to make the wrong choices this time around and publicly announcing that they are inviting CV’s just gives me the fear that they might.  😬

I'd imagine at our level the purpose of inviting CV's is necessary. It allows for us to consider someone we may not have thought of initially. The big clubs can pick and choose, and afford considerable compensation to clubs if their man is already employed. We aren't quite in that position. 

[redjambo]

3 minutes ago, Cruyff Turn said:

I don’t see the point in inviting CV’s though, it just makes for a lengthier process and it’s completely unnecessary. As explained, we can find all that information we need  in a few minutes. 

 

I’d certainly hope she is not.

 

Don’t get me wrong, there will be plenty good managers that are currently unattached but some might not even be aware that there is a vacant position. So it is up to us to find them.

 

I do not have much faith in the board tbh to make the right decision. They have made a dugs dinner of the previous two appointments, as well as their hesitation to end them much sooner. That is why we find ourselves where we are at the moment. 🤷🏼‍♂️

 

It’s an extremely important appointment, possibly the most important in years given fans ownership is on the cards very soon.

 

If this goes tits for arse once again, many supporters could lose faith & trust in this structure and start to withdraw funds after the transfer of ownership leaving us worse off, especially if some members of the current board are still at the helm.

 

They simply cannot afford to make the wrong choices this time around and publicly announcing that they are inviting CV’s just gives me the fear that they might.  😬

 

I'm not speaking from any position of knowledge at all, but perhaps there are "tapping up" regulations in place that prevent us from approaching managers in certain leagues directly?

[Kiwidoug]

Iirc EGS was only a provisional or interim appointment at MU.  He went on to earn a contract.  That could happen with us but I doubt it.

[soonbe110]

26 minutes ago, Cruyff Turn said:

Well we do know how because Ann Budge said she was inviting CV’s.

 

We did the same thing last time and we ended up with Craig Levein! 

 

Anyone on this board can do 10 minutes research and find literally 100’s of managers from across the world who are out of work.

 

You could pick 20 decent ones and stick them on a shortlist, then do more background research and reduce that shortlist, rinse and repeat until you’ve got 5-10 targets you might want to speak to.

 

You could do the same looking for a manager at another club. Someone who has a good track record as manager and someone who is a realistic possibility.

 

We all know Billy Davies, Owen Coyle and all the other shite under the sun are out of work and looking for a position. Surely if we wanted them, all we had to do is pick up the phone, no? 

 

So why were we inviting CV’s as of last Friday ? 

 

And surely if the Sporting Director was the 1st appointment, we’d be asking him his opinion of who the next manager should be and not inviting CV’s because you’d expect any Sporting Director worth a sook to have knowledge of who’s who and who we should go after, no? 

 

How do I know?

 

Because that’s what Ann Budge said. 

No she didn’t. She said cv’s were already coming in. She said she would give it a week to see who was interested then start interviews.  She didn’t say she wasn’t going to approach any possible candidates. She didn’t say she had a couple of agents working on her behalf. Did she do any of these things? I have no idea and neither do you. 

[soonbe110]

7 minutes ago, Cruyff Turn said:

I don’t see the point in inviting CV’s though, it just makes for a lengthier process and it’s completely unnecessary. As explained, we can find all that information we need  in a few minutes. 

 

I’d certainly hope she is not.

 

Don’t get me wrong, there will be plenty good managers that are currently unattached but some might not even be aware that there is a vacant position. So it is up to us to find them.

 

I do not have much faith in the board tbh to make the right decision. They have made a dugs dinner of the previous two appointments, as well as their hesitation to end them much sooner. That is why we find ourselves where we are at the moment. 🤷🏼‍♂️

 

It’s an extremely important appointment, possibly the most important in years given fans ownership is on the cards very soon.

 

If this goes tits for arse once again, many supporters could lose faith & trust in this structure and start to withdraw funds after the transfer of ownership leaving us worse off, especially if some members of the current board are still at the helm.

 

They simply cannot afford to make the wrong choices this time around and publicly announcing that they are inviting CV’s just gives me the fear that they might.  😬

It happens though, regardless. Part of an agents job is to get his clients cv’s in front of potential employers. And that’s whether they are currently in a job or not. 

[Cruyff Turn]

7 minutes ago, Bridge of Djoum said:

I'd imagine at our level the purpose of inviting CV's is necessary. It allows for us to consider someone we may not have thought of initially. The big clubs can pick and choose, and afford considerable compensation to clubs if their man is already employed. We aren't quite in that position. 

Ok, fair point. 👍🏼

 

6 minutes ago, redjambo said:

 

I'm not speaking from any position of knowledge at all, but perhaps there are "tapping up" regulations in place that prevent us from approaching managers in certain leagues directly?

We’d have to speak to their club and ask permission but it’s widely known that clubs would probably ask their agent if they were interested before approaching their club.

 

4 minutes ago, soonbe110 said:

No she didn’t. She said cv’s were already coming in. She said she would give it a week to see who was interested then start interviews.  She didn’t say she wasn’t going to approach any possible candidates. She didn’t say she had a couple of agents working on her behalf. Did she do any of these things? I have no idea and neither do you. 

She said she was inviting applications until last Friday. I know that much and that was the basis of my post. 👍🏼

 

2 minutes ago, soonbe110 said:

It happens though, regardless. Part of an agents job is to get his clients cv’s in front of potential employers. And that’s whether they are currently in a job or not. 

True.

[Ricardo Quaresma]

Ignore earlier post

 

Stuart McCall & Steve Cotterill also in mix

[kingantti1874]

28 minutes ago, Ricardo Quaresma said:

Ignore earlier post

 

Stuart McCall & Steve Cotterill also in mix

😂

[Costanza]

I always think Jack Ross is our sliding doors moment in recent years. If he hadn't left he would have been manager instead of Cathro and surely would have been much better, resulting in the succession plantl being seen to work and Levein not becoming the manager. 

Of course, he may have done well, left and Jon Daly being the current manager.

Before his second season at Sunderland. I would have said yes to him being her manager but his inability to get Sunderland flying high at the top of League One does make me wonder if he's the right man now.

[1874robbo]

2 hours ago, ColJT22 said:

Agreed. Jack Ross has failed with a big budget when expected to do well. 

 

Unless a bigger name than MacPhee comes in with pedigree, I reckon we give MacPhee some time as interim. Then we will know if he is correct for job. 

Would you give Jon Daly extra time as the interim?
His record previously is Won 1 Drawn 1 Lost 1

his playing career is also more impressive than macphee.

Personally I don’t want any of them, I want a clean break from all previous backroom staff and a new fresh outlook taken.