Lord Beni of Gorgie Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 13 minutes ago, Newton51 said: According to Steve Clarke naisy is fit again and starting on Saturday He hasn’t had much game time but he’s a good professional, Steven,” said Clarke, who is looking to finish third to boost confidence ahead of the March play-offs. Sign up to our Hearts newsletter “I had a good conversation with him on Monday. He assures me his fitness is good, he has been working hard on it. “He obviously got some minutes on the pitch in the semi-final at the weekend and he expects to start their next game. So hopefully he can add something to the squad.” Seen this tonight. Good of him to hand over some information to his former club. Struck me as unprofessional Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pettigrewsstylist Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 1 hour ago, CJGJ said: We should have told Scotland that he was not available at this time Arsenal have done exactly the same re Tierney I have suspected for some time that SF would be his comeback game and Scotland selection would follow. Old cynic that i am. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OTT Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 5 hours ago, Kiwidoug said: I hope he gets his 50th cap even if it's off the bench. Yup. 50th cap and retires! We need him more unfortunately Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heriot_jambo Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 1 hour ago, Sir Gio said: Seen this tonight. Good of him to hand over some information to his former club. Struck me as unprofessional Players do it all the time, ruidiger at Chelsea I saw did it recently but manager said he wasn't yet, probably believed he's been fit enough for weeks but tests showed otherwise Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBigO Posted November 6, 2019 Share Posted November 6, 2019 Hope he gets some more game time under his belt with Scotland. Use Scotland in competitive, but meaningless games to get closer to match fit. Better than getting sharp playing for us surely? Then come the Killie game, he's up to speed and raring to go. All good man. And frankly, if he's going to break down again, it would happen playing for us or Scotland, so what's the difference? I don't think he will though, anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XB52 Posted November 6, 2019 Share Posted November 6, 2019 13 hours ago, Sir Gio said: Seen this tonight. Good of him to hand over some information to his former club. Struck me as unprofessional ???? When did he manage St. Mirren, or play for them if you mean Naismith and not Clarke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbo-Jambo Posted November 6, 2019 Share Posted November 6, 2019 16 hours ago, rick witter said: **** Scotland!!! He will end up injured again at their training camp no doubt!! ******* ridiculous he has hardly played in 2019 and after 40 mins on Sunday we let him toddle off with Scotland, no doubt to come back injured. Christ, even Levein admitted it was a mistake last time to let him go and laughed about that 50th cap. It's club first all day long until you are ready to play international football which he is clearly not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbo-Jambo Posted November 6, 2019 Share Posted November 6, 2019 2 hours ago, TheBigO said: Hope he gets some more game time under his belt with Scotland. Use Scotland in competitive, but meaningless games to get closer to match fit. Better than getting sharp playing for us surely? Then come the Killie game, he's up to speed and raring to go. All good man. And frankly, if he's going to break down again, it would happen playing for us or Scotland, so what's the difference? I don't think he will though, anyway. You have got to remember though he got a 4 year deal so we should be the priority here. Just imagine the outcry if he comes back crocked and the reason was he is not ready to play for Scotland at the moment. Even we are gradually trying to phase him back in because of how long he has been out for. Far too soon to be letting him away with his country imo and can't help feel it is all about this 50th cap thing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Beni of Gorgie Posted November 6, 2019 Share Posted November 6, 2019 2 hours ago, XB52 said: ???? When did he manage St. Mirren, or play for them if you mean Naismith and not Clarke I meant Clarke, was a player for them, unless my memory has gone altogether Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spellczech Posted November 6, 2019 Share Posted November 6, 2019 On 04/11/2019 at 18:07, stevie1874 said: I’m guessing it was the game plan to contain Rangers the first half then bring on Uche, Naismith & Walker throughout the second half. Plan Donald ducked through injury to Whelan, MacLean having to be taken off and injury to Smith. Yep, not a strategy that works very often against the OF, as once they get ahead they are hard to peg back but if you can get ahead and make them do the chasing then often they do give you chances... There is a difference for us playing the OF vis the smaller clubs. Irrespective of our rotten record, the OF are usually up for Hearts, Hibs and Aberdeen games in a way they are not for most other clubs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XB52 Posted November 6, 2019 Share Posted November 6, 2019 (edited) 5 hours ago, Sir Gio said: I meant Clarke, was a player for them, unless my memory has gone altogether I see, so he is working as a secret agent for a club he played for 30 odd years ago. Bit of a stretch no?? Edited November 6, 2019 by XB52 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spellczech Posted November 6, 2019 Share Posted November 6, 2019 6 hours ago, Robbo-Jambo said: ******* ridiculous he has hardly played in 2019 and after 40 mins on Sunday we let him toddle off with Scotland, no doubt to come back injured. Christ, even Levein admitted it was a mistake last time to let him go and laughed about that 50th cap. It's club first all day long until you are ready to play international football which he is clearly not. Hopefully he will park Scotland once he gets this 50th cap... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baxterd1974 Posted November 6, 2019 Share Posted November 6, 2019 Naismith should be showing his employer more respect IMHO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevie1874 Posted November 6, 2019 Share Posted November 6, 2019 33 minutes ago, Spellczech said: Yep, not a strategy that works very often against the OF, as once they get ahead they are hard to peg back but if you can get ahead and make them do the chasing then often they do give you chances... There is a difference for us playing the OF vis the smaller clubs. Irrespective of our rotten record, the OF are usually up for Hearts, Hibs and Aberdeen games in a way they are not for most other clubs. It’s a risky strategy and not one I’d like going forward. The Old firm will always have better individual players but having a good manager which sets the team out correctly (organised) but willing and able to have a go will give you a fair chance in a one off game. Kilmarnock under Steve Clarke? Or on a different level Simeone when he took over Athletico were also rans in the Spanish league with a far smaller budget who the big two would beat regularly and have no fear of playing against. Look at them now always in the mix at the top of the league. Now Real and Barca certainly don’t take them lightly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruyff Turn Posted November 6, 2019 Share Posted November 6, 2019 Michael Smith got injured on Sunday and is away with N.Ireland. Fuming. Absolutely fuming. How can the club allow this. 😤 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gorgie Posted November 6, 2019 Share Posted November 6, 2019 4 minutes ago, stevie1874 said: It’s a risky strategy and not one I’d like going forward. The Old firm will always have better individual players but having a good manager which sets the team out correctly (organised) but willing and able to have a go will give you a fair chance in a one off game. Kilmarnock under Steve Clarke? Or on a different level Simeone when he took over Athletico were also rans in the Spanish league with a far smaller budget who the big two would beat regularly and have no fear of playing against. Look at them now always in the mix at the top of the league. Now Real and Barca certainly don’t take them lightly. Real madrid went something ridiculous like 16 years without losing to Atletico, Simeone came along and put a end to that. Incredible job he's done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevie1874 Posted November 6, 2019 Share Posted November 6, 2019 4 minutes ago, TheStig said: Real madrid went something ridiculous like 16 years without losing to Atletico, Simeone came along and put a end to that. Incredible job he's done. Exactly just shows the importance of a manager who has not only changed the way they play but the whole mentality of the club. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spellczech Posted November 6, 2019 Share Posted November 6, 2019 18 minutes ago, stevie1874 said: It’s a risky strategy and not one I’d like going forward. The Old firm will always have better individual players but having a good manager which sets the team out correctly (organised) but willing and able to have a go will give you a fair chance in a one off game. Kilmarnock under Steve Clarke? Or on a different level Simeone when he took over Athletico were also rans in the Spanish league with a far smaller budget who the big two would beat regularly and have no fear of playing against. Look at them now always in the mix at the top of the league. Now Real and Barca certainly don’t take them lightly. I've always thought that if you suit back you encourage the other team to play and even if they are having an off day they eventually find a rhythm, and make the breakthrough. Our best results have always been from having a go, or luckiest results have been from sitting in successfully... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Beni of Gorgie Posted November 6, 2019 Share Posted November 6, 2019 59 minutes ago, XB52 said: I see, so he is working as a secret agent for a club he played for 30 odd years ago. Bit of a stretch no?? I wasn't really making a big deal of it to be honest All the same a bit off to be telling the nation. I'm sure St Mirren had probably guessed themselves Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbo-Jambo Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 15 hours ago, Spellczech said: Hopefully he will park Scotland once he gets this 50th cap... I actually think he will. Just bloody hurry up and get it. An ideal 2 minute cameo would get it done. 😏 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Beni of Gorgie Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 1 minute ago, Robbo-Jambo said: I actually think he will. Just bloody hurry up and get it. An ideal 2 minute cameo would get it done. 😏 March if we don't qualify. It is March the play offs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbo-Jambo Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 45 minutes ago, Sir Gio said: March if we don't qualify. It is March the play offs? Not sure mate. 🤔 Kinda lost interest in Scotland tbh. Not like the old Hampden days crammed in amongst 100,000 watching Jordan, Dalglish and Souness etc. when we actually qualified for things. ☹️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Beni of Gorgie Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 5 minutes ago, Robbo-Jambo said: Not sure mate. 🤔 Kinda lost interest in Scotland tbh. Not like the old Hampden days crammed in amongst 100,000 watching Jordan, Dalglish and Souness etc. when we actually qualified for things. ☹️ Used to be an event, Scotland matches, now you try to find something else to do Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbo-Jambo Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 41 minutes ago, Sir Gio said: Used to be an event, Scotland matches, now you try to find something else to do 😅 Very true. Cutting the grass is more exciting nowadays. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Loblaw Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 Folk thinking he'll hang it up from Scotland if he gets 50 caps are deluding themselves. Playing for Scotland is massive for him, it's a big part of why he joined us as he knows it'd give him a chance to stay involved. He's not going to jack it in when there are playoffs and an outside chance of a majors coming up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
busby1985 Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 So tomorrow are we gonna hear about any “tightness” or are we going to be used to get game time in his legs for Scotland? A bounce match for him, so to speak? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbo-Jambo Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 3 minutes ago, busby1985 said: So tomorrow are we gonna hear about any “tightness” or are we going to be used to get game time in his legs for Scotland? A bounce match for him, so to speak? Please not this 24 hour before a game niggle again tomorrow. 😕 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
busby1985 Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 5 minutes ago, Robbo-Jambo said: Please not this 24 hour before a game niggle again tomorrow. 😕 I reckon he’ll use the game tomorrow almost like a reserve game to get time in his legs for his big Scotland game. Crazy that we have allowed this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbo-Jambo Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 (edited) 22 minutes ago, busby1985 said: I reckon he’ll use the game tomorrow almost like a reserve game to get time in his legs for his big Scotland game. Crazy that we have allowed this. Levein admitted it was wrong to let him go last time and yet here we go again. Beginning to wonder if there is something in his contract that let's him decide these things. 😏 Edited November 7, 2019 by Robbo-Jambo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Boy Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 Suppose we just have to let him go and hope for the best. If he comes through the game without any problems, then happy days. Whelan and Naismith in the same team is massive for us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbo-Jambo Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 15 minutes ago, farin said: Prob more of a verbal agreement to release him in order to get to the 50 caps necessary for the sfa’s ‘roll of honour’ tbh. It did set him back in his recuperation as levein subsequently admitted though. If that happens again supporters will not be chuffed at all. He signed a 4 year deal and its club before country imo. 😏 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FruitJuice Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 3 hours ago, Robbo-Jambo said: 😅 Very true. Cutting the grass is more exciting nowadays. Do you know how many league games we have played between these internationals and the last. With the league cup semis, it's about two league games that teams will have played. It feels like they come around ever other week. Are international teams playing more friendlies due to needing money? Can't be arsed with it now. For me it's down to my hatred of the sfa. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Beni of Gorgie Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 6 minutes ago, Robbo-Jambo said: If that happens again supporters will not be chuffed at all. He signed a 4 year deal and its club before country imo. 😏 He said he wanted to take Scotland to a championships, this is his last chance, a little more than just hitting 50 caps for him. I imagine he has a good bit more latitude, and that was bargained in when we signed him, or we would not have at all. I still think he is a major asset, I think he will begin to light us up over the next few weeks. Thought he looked sharp enough on Sunday for someone who had problems for virtually a year now. We can but hope those are over for both our sakes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
busby1985 Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 20 hours ago, Cruyff Turn said: Michael Smith got injured on Sunday and is away with N.Ireland. Fuming. Absolutely fuming. How can the club allow this. 😤 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Lazar Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 (edited) Miles ahead of anyone else at the club talent wise Miles ahead of anyone else in regards to having a winning mentality Are we going to see him string a few games together now? I really hope he's over his injuries and we can get a couple of seasons out of him. If he goes off injured again i think he's done. Edited November 8, 2019 by Robert Lazar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
been here before Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Robert Lazar said: Miles ahead of anyone else at the club talent wise Miles ahead of anyone else in regards to having a winning mentality Are we going to see him string a few games together now? I really hope he's over his injuries and we can get a couple of seasons out of him. If he goes off injured again i think he's done. Aye? What if its a totally unrelated injury to anything ever had before like a broken nose? Or if he drops a hammer on his toe doing a bit diy at home? He'd be done? Edited November 8, 2019 by been here before Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Lazar Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 5 minutes ago, been here before said: Aye? What if its a totally unrelated injury to anything ever had before like a broken nose? Or if he drops a hammer on his toe doing a bit diy at home? He'd be done? Don't be silly, you know what i mean. If he goes off clutching his hamstring or the likes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
been here before Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 Or the likes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenor Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 1 minute ago, been here before said: Or the likes? Why so argumentative? Had a bad day? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Innocent Eggboniki Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 He’s got 3-4 seasons in him FFS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VALDOS' Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 I would agree his fitness is a major concern, he definitely don't see out his contract playing regularly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheriffs Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 Hated him before he played for us because of his histrionics and blatant cheating. Accepted him in a Hearts shirt and was ecstatic like everyone else when he finally committed his future and signed. The whole saga now is boring and I'd prefer him to put in a string of performances before doing press conferences and spouting to newspapers. He seems to be a very selfish individual. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
been here before Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Tenor said: Why so argumentative? Had a bad day? Whose arguing? Its a messageboard. You know conversation, questions that sort of thing... Edited November 8, 2019 by been here before Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jr ewing Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 Assistant manager? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sooperstar Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 16 minutes ago, Tenor said: Why so argumentative? Had a bad day? This is what a kind poster sent to me about him when he was trying to engage in a ridiculous argument with me before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
been here before Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 1 minute ago, Sooperstar said: This is what a kind poster sent to me about him when he was trying to engage in a ridiculous argument with me before. About Naismith? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A_A wehatethehibs Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 Good player, hopefully with him and walker back we can start scoring goals and winning games Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Lazar Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 19 minutes ago, Innocent Eggboniki said: He’s got 3-4 seasons in him FFS I hope so, but what are you basing that on? Other than closing your eyes and crossing your fingers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambopilms Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 One thing for sure. If he doesn't play, chances are win don't win Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
been here before Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 3 minutes ago, A_A wehatethehibs said: Good player, hopefully with him and walker back we can start scoring goals and winning games Naismith could be the player that finally makes Walker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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