JamboAl Posted November 20, 2020 Share Posted November 20, 2020 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Pasquale for King said: Absolutely, they have months to prepare for window opening so get the deals done ASAP. The problem I suppose this time was getting guys out the door to free up wages, but again that could’ve been set up in December, like getting Berra out on loan. How do you get guys out the door -if no other club has expressed an interest? - if a player chooses to sit tight? - if who pays what cannot be agreed between us and interested (loan) clubs? Edited November 20, 2020 by JamboAl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasAndy Posted November 20, 2020 Share Posted November 20, 2020 12 hours ago, Hashimoto said: I could be way off the mark, but hey it's late at night now. What boils my pi$$ is this seemingly Sky sports driven transfer window last day nonsense. Why do clubs wait until 23:55 (Scotland) or 22:55 (England) to gets deals across the line when in fact they have had 30 DAYS to conclude transfers? I know that there is brinkmanship on all sides.....but this last day nonsense is surely poor management on all sides. How many players have we missed out on, or have rushed through airports off the last flight into Edinburgh to conclude a deal? Spot on. Sky Sports have turned the transfer window into a last day circus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nookie Bear Posted November 20, 2020 Share Posted November 20, 2020 I got round to watching a bit of this and i found it a hard view. Watching the team slide from defeat to defeat, unveiling the likes of Sibbick, Stendel manfully trying to keep positive when you have the nagging feeling nobody is really buying into it...painful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted November 22, 2020 Share Posted November 22, 2020 On 20/11/2020 at 12:54, JamboAl said: How do you get guys out the door -if no other club has expressed an interest? - if a player chooses to sit tight? - if who pays what cannot be agreed between us and interested (loan) clubs? I know the way football works is a complete mystery to you. If you want rid of a player you A, ask around your many contacts, agents/managers etc to see who needs an experienced CH for example. B, you make it abundantly clear to the player he doesn’t fit into your plans and can go, his agent will then try and get him a move. C, you make the deal happen, not sit around and wait until the last minute when it’s too late to replace them. Dundee for example said they couldn’t afford Berra early in the window but deal was done eventually. Not criticising the HR department for sitting on the phone ringing, that’s not their job to do the actual deal. D, if Damour for example sits tight which they are entitled to do you can only leave them out the first team picture, but with the deals your hero gave out with a high basic wage that doesn’t have much affect. You have to make the deals happen not wait around for something to turn up. We did it in January with Mulraney, Keena and eventually Berra, also in the summer with Burns, Washington, Uche, Garuccio, Doyle, Clare etc. It’s a normal and essential part of football. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamboAl Posted November 22, 2020 Share Posted November 22, 2020 13 minutes ago, Pasquale for King said: I know the way football works is a complete mystery to you. If you want rid of a player you A, ask around your many contacts, agents/managers etc to see who needs an experienced CH for example. B, you make it abundantly clear to the player he doesn’t fit into your plans and can go, his agent will then try and get him a move. C, you make the deal happen, not sit around and wait until the last minute when it’s too late to replace them. Dundee for example said they couldn’t afford Berra early in the window but deal was done eventually. Not criticising the HR department for sitting on the phone ringing, that’s not their job to do the actual deal. D, if Damour for example sits tight which they are entitled to do you can only leave them out the first team picture, but with the deals your hero gave out with a high basic wage that doesn’t have much affect. You have to make the deals happen not wait around for something to turn up. We did it in January with Mulraney, Keena and eventually Berra, also in the summer with Burns, Washington, Uche, Garuccio, Doyle, Clare etc. It’s a normal and essential part of football. But HOW do you make the deals happen? A. Are you suggesting that hasn't been done? Standard practice I would have thought. B - It is abundantly clear to everyone that Damour doesn't fit; he's out of the picture but still here. That I would guess is solely down to the player as the agent would most likely benefit with a percentage from any new deal. C - Berra was just a loan and is still here. Personally I hope he remains here for the rest of the season after last night's show. D - Other clubs have to want them and the move must be suitable to the player, no doubt taking into account his family circumstances etc. It obviously suited these players to move on with the exception of Doyle who is still a Hearts player but not every player is happy to keep changing clubs which often necessitates new living arrangements/children's school and whatever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shooter McGavin Posted November 22, 2020 Share Posted November 22, 2020 Had a feeling it would feature more fly on the wall, dressing room type scenes. Thank god it doesn’t. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seymour M Hersh Posted November 22, 2020 Share Posted November 22, 2020 Just watched part two and found it fairly enjoyable. I wonder if there will be anything re the stitch up we find about about in part three that we haven't heard about. Re the glum faces and lack of welcome for the new coach at the go-karting, much ado about nothing. Time and again you could see there was a good atmosphere around the dressing room and training ground. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sim Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 Does anyone know where I can watch the current BBC series besides iPlayer? Not living in the UK, so dont have access to it through the beeb. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gashauskis9 Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 Think tonight’s will be the best yet 🤞🏻 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Slim Stylee Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 On 19/11/2020 at 12:21, Pasquale for King said: Yeah nobody noticed when Burley was sacked and a sex offender replaced him. Not one of our greatest moments, tbh 🙁 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Slim Stylee Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 Just now, Big Slim Stylee said: Not one of our greatest moments, tbh . Still ...cup of tea anyone? 🙁 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
been here before Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 (edited) Oooft 2 wummin interviewed already and folk helping out feeding the homeless. i8hearts'll be raging already. Incoming attention seeking shite on its way.... Edited November 23, 2020 by been here before Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigAlim Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 should never be forgotten how dundee acted Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gashauskis9 Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 McGlauchlin, Scotland’s most experienced sports journalist, types like a 5 year old. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lsimp77 Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 The groundsmen getting more screen time than Levein is a disgrace. He is the reason we are a laughing stock in this documentary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gashauskis9 Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 Blood’s boiling already 🤬🤬🤬 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruyff Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 I hope Bill Clark has a fall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemclaren Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 1 minute ago, lsimp77 said: The groundsmen getting more screen time than Levein is a disgrace. He is the reason we are a laughing stock in this documentary. He’s not been very humorous so far, that’s true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigAlim Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 that task force thing was embarrassing, you could tell from the moment they told ann to front it that they were just humouring us, total waste of time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 When the Premiership clubs were so clearly dead against Reconstruction you have to ask a lot of questions about the reasons for giving the impression it was something possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gordiegords Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 Should’ve came with a trigger warning just before Doncaster showed his puss. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigAlim Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 I see this logic that Doncaster is using all the time, "80% of the clubs voted for it so its fair" That is the most selfish and idiotic view of fairness you're likely to see Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EIEIO Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 Blood pressure off the radar at the sight of Doncaster again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kila Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 This is so sad about Stendel. Terrible way to be treated, especially after he gave up his entire wage. Was that even mentioned in this documentary? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruyff Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 Dan Budge Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gashauskis9 Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 Just now, kila said: This is so sad about Stendel. Terrible way to be treated, especially after he gave up his entire wage. Was that even mentioned in this documentary? This. Diamond of a bloke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dennis Reynolds Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 Horrible. 😥 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coco Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 That glorious newspaper headline which said Levein, MacPhee and MacLean leaving Hearts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lsimp77 Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 Stendel having to find out through a friend that he’d been sacked just sums it up. Amateur on and off the pitch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 3 minutes ago, kila said: This is so sad about Stendel. Terrible way to be treated, especially after he gave up his entire wage. Was that even mentioned in this documentary? Yes it was mentioned last week Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SectionFJambo Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 Club coming across as a bunch of jokers run by the ladies who lunch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gashauskis9 Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 I’m not a Budge Basher, but she’s not coming across well in this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herbert. Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 I cant watch this, She's a ***** of a woman. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SectionFJambo Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 Completely forgot we took this to court. All because we got ourselves relegated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 Although I like Budge finding it hard to have sympathy with her as it was her decisions or not ( sacking Levien earlier) that got us into the shit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Future's Maroon Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 Weird, programme on tv about our ridiculous demotion and loads of low post count/hardly seen before posters all over the thread...sad lives some live. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigAlim Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 Just now, SectionFJambo said: Completely forgot we took this to court. All because we got ourselves relegated. 4 points behind with 24 to play for ffs We were most definitely due compensation for that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kila Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 "No other groundsman would ever allow this" I love it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SectionFJambo Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 We wonder why the pitch is fecked 😀 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruyff Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 Letting folk have their tea on our million quid pitch. What a feckin pisstake. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SectionFJambo Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 Just now, BigAlim said: 4 points behind with 24 to play for ffs We were most definitely due compensation for that The way we were playing we would have ended up 28 behind. Ahhh that's nice of the club - encouraging folk to be elitist. As for the boy asking people to sanitise. Must have been for the camera as was nowhere to be seen when I went in August. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 Looked like the Beverly hillbillies having their dinner on the pitch 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lsimp77 Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 And we wonder why the pitch is ****ed in January/February Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newton51 Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 Stendel was badly let down by budge. To find out through the press that he was no longer manager is a disgrace. Amateur hour! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigAlim Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 Just now, SectionFJambo said: The way we were playing we would have ended up 28 behind. Purely an opinion, league tables are decided by the number not conjecture Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walter Bishop Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 Miss Tynecastle alot more than i ever thought i would. Cant see us ever returning to full stadiums again. 😪😪 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koolkeith Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 3 minutes ago, SectionFJambo said: The way we were playing we would have ended up 28 behind. Ahhh that's nice of the club - encouraging folk to be elitist. As for the boy asking people to sanitise. Must have been for the camera as was nowhere to be seen when I went in August. Christ. Every post of yours is negative. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gashauskis9 Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 Paul Gallacher coaching Craig Gordon is like Neil Buchanan coaching Michelangelo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruyff Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 Just now, gashauskis9 said: Paul Gallacher coaching Craig Gordon is like Neil Buchanan coaching Michelangelo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky jamboa Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 5 minutes ago, Newton51 said: Stendel was badly let down by budge. To find out through the press that he was no longer manager is a disgrace. Amateur hour! Yeah shocking. Pretty brutal by Budge. He didnt deserve that. She says she tried to contact him. Bull s**t Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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