Derek Adams Leak

[GinRummy]

20 minutes ago, Adam_the_legend said:

Was playing devil’s advocate. Most candidates won’t have an affinity for Hearts like fans or ex players so would look at things without the maroon tinted specs. There WILL be immediate pressure to climb the table and CL IS still employed by Hearts. Selected facts but facts nonetheless. 

fair do’s. Agree, the pressure will be firmly on the new guy.

[Lord Beni of Gorgie]

43 minutes ago, Spoleto said:

This endless speculation and rumour mongering is just all pish and nonsense. People getting angry and pissed off about pure fantasy. 

 

Just wait until we have an announcement and pray we've not gone from the frying pan into the fire.

You definitely are not describing myself. 

 

Not angry. 

 

However I am concerned that this appointment needs to be a better one by some distance. 

 

Though there's no evidence of a job offer,  it would be naive to dismiss this as pure speculation. Every possibility they wanted to speak to him.

 

I don't think they will be disappointed we know it either. 

 

Not uncommon as a business or political strategy to throw something out there that nobody wants,  when the delivery materialises its well above the expectations. 

 

It's fair to say on Monday she raised those expectations,  no one else,  to levels that could never be met.

 

She herself mentioned the standard of manager now in Scotland.

 

This story might help dilute that false hope 

[Cruyff Turn]

Derek Adams “big named appointment”, that’ll be ****ing shining Ann. 

 

Seriously, If that is the level of Hearts ambition then they may as well go for Robinson, Neilson or Ross. 

 

What an absolute riddy if that is true. 

[soonbe110]

1 hour ago, jack D and coke said:

I’m sure Ann thinks Craig Levein is high profile. 
I know she also had to say we were looking for a high profile man that but it’s given licence for our fans to start dissing this that and next one as being beneath us. 
Laughable expectations from some of us. 

Levein is and was high profile. Scottish internationalist, former manager if one of Scotland’s top clubs with European experience, managed in England, former Scotland national team manager. That’s high profile whichever way you look at it. I doubt his replacement will be as high profile. Hope I’m wrong but I doubt it. 

[Randy Marsh]

1 hour ago, FruitJuice said:

Explain your stomach comment? I haven't got a four by two what you're on about  

My stomach is fine  are you feeling that wee unfulfilled ache?  You needing love etc?

Think the wee scamp has now started trolling this thread looking for bites since the Levein thread is finished.  He must have been raging for days after Levein got emptied.  

[Horatio Caine]

Anybody got any footage of Jamie Hamill taking out Adams in front of the dugouts a few years ago?  One of Hammil's finest moments.

Edited November 8, 2019 by Horatio Caine

[jack D and coke]

12 minutes ago, soonbe110 said:

Levein is and was high profile. Scottish internationalist, former manager if one of Scotland’s top clubs with European experience, managed in England, former Scotland national team manager. That’s high profile whichever way you look at it. I doubt his replacement will be as high profile. Hope I’m wrong but I doubt it. 

Levein wasn’t high profile when we gave him the managers job. A disastrous national manager and 2 years DOF isn’t what I’d call high profile personally. 
I agree we’ll likely end up with someone with not as much on his CV though. 

[SE16 3LN]

3 hours ago, jambonian said:

You can manage anyone if you're given resources. When Davie Moyes ruled himself out, the reason for me is that it's because we have no major resources and he probably thought/knew he would fail. People like him and others that have managed bigger clubs in England are chequebook managers, not real managers. I'd love to see what the likes of Jose Mourinho or Ranieri would do with a club like Hearts with no resources, well the type they'd need, not a lot would be my guess. People like them would be scared of the challenge. Even Brendan Rogers would struggle at Hearts. I'd like us to bring in a manager from abroad who would love the challenge the same as Paulo Sergio did. 'd rather not bring in ex-players again like Robertson and definitely not Neilson. If money is so tight that we need to get someone from within Scotland then looking around, there is really only Robinson now, realistically. And if it's true that they really are looking at the likes of Derek Adams then we really are up shit creek wi'oot a paddle.

This is rubbish. Almost all great managers made their name at smaller clubs with limited resources. Jose would be shite at Hearts 😀

[Gordon Ramsay]

43 minutes ago, Cruyff Turn said:

Derek Adams “big named appointment”, that’ll be ****ing shining Ann. 

 

Seriously, If that is the level of Hearts ambition then they may as well go for Robinson, Neilson or Ross. 

 

What an absolute riddy if that is true. 

My thoughts exactly. 

[The Real Maroonblood]

7 minutes ago, Randy Marsh said:

Think the wee scamp has now started trolling this thread looking for bites since the Levein thread is finished.  He must have been raging for days after Levein got emptied.  

[Robbo-Jambo]

52 minutes ago, Cruyff Turn said:

Derek Adams “big named appointment”, that’ll be ****ing shining Ann. 

 

Seriously, If that is the level of Hearts ambition then they may as well go for Robinson, Neilson or Ross. 

 

What an absolute riddy if that is true. 

We are after a very experienced and high profile manager allegedly. 

 

We miss out on a guy who has just taken over at ******* Morecambe. 🙄. 

 

Now that is what I call a massive contradiction. 😅

[Fort Vallance]

He wouldn't come back to Scotland just yet. Jamie Hamill is still playing.

[Leveins Battalion]

Heard this leak came from his Uncle Fester.

[rudi must stay]

He'd have been good. Still, on to the next candidate.

 

[Pants Shaton]

I’m sure this is utter horse shite just like all the bookies odds.

[gorgie rd eh11]

[Jambo647]

4 minutes ago, Barack said:

Mods/admin,

 

Close this utter disaster of a thread. Please.

The issue and concern for Hearts fans is that Derek Adams may have even been considered for the Hearts job

very worrying if his name was even mentioned...

[Lord Beni of Gorgie]

8 minutes ago, Barack said:

Mods/admin,

 

Close this utter disaster of a thread. Please.

Seems like extraordinary shit to make up to be honest.

 

Admittedly the piece is totally sensationalised, of course it would be, indeed some people have said they would be happy with Derek Adams.

 

I am feeling rather nervous who will be on this list, that's just my feeling

[EIEIO]

1 hour ago, luckydug said:

Why do you feel he would be a disaster ?

His record in league 1 and 2 with Plymouth who are one of the biggest sides at that level ,in terms of fan base and budget, is fairly unconvincing. Last season he nearly led them to relegation.

Edited November 8, 2019 by EIEIO
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[Pasquale for King]

3 hours ago, jambonian said:

You can manage anyone if you're given resources. When Davie Moyes ruled himself out, the reason for me is that it's because we have no major resources and he probably thought/knew he would fail. People like him and others that have managed bigger clubs in England are chequebook managers, not real managers. I'd love to see what the likes of Jose Mourinho or Ranieri would do with a club like Hearts with no resources, well the type they'd need, not a lot would be my guess. People like them would be scared of the challenge. Even Brendan Rogers would struggle at Hearts. I'd like us to bring in a manager from abroad who would love the challenge the same as Paulo Sergio did. 'd rather not bring in ex-players again like Robertson and definitely not Neilson. If money is so tight that we need to get someone from within Scotland then looking around, there is really only Robinson now, realistically. And if it's true that they really are looking at the likes of Derek Adams then we really are up shit creek wi'oot a paddle.

Indeed, a Sporting Director from

abroad too.

[FarmerTweedy]

3 hours ago, jambonian said:

You can manage anyone if you're given resources. When Davie Moyes ruled himself out, the reason for me is that it's because we have no major resources and he probably thought/knew he would fail. People like him and others that have managed bigger clubs in England are chequebook managers, not real managers. I'd love to see what the likes of Jose Mourinho or Ranieri would do with a club like Hearts with no resources, well the type they'd need, not a lot would be my guess. People like them would be scared of the challenge. Even Brendan Rogers would struggle at Hearts. I'd like us to bring in a manager from abroad who would love the challenge the same as Paulo Sergio did. 'd rather not bring in ex-players again like Robertson and definitely not Neilson. If money is so tight that we need to get someone from within Scotland then looking around, there is really only Robinson now, realistically. And if it's true that they really are looking at the likes of Derek Adams then we really are up shit creek wi'oot a paddle.

I think the fact he'll be expecting a salary about 10 times what we're likely to be offering would probably be a factor too!

[Pasquale for King]

1 minute ago, FarmerTweedy said:

I think the fact he'll be expecting a salary about 10 times what we're likely to be offering would probably be a factor too!

Considering the options he has and the offers he’s been made both jobs in the capital are a step up from his current status. He will be lucky to manage again if that’s his attitude.

[Dusk_Till_Dawn]

1 hour ago, Cruyff Turn said:

Derek Adams “big named appointment”, that’ll be ****ing shining Ann. 

 

Seriously, If that is the level of Hearts ambition then they may as well go for Robinson, Neilson or Ross. 

 

What an absolute riddy if that is true. 

You can see it though. Budge doesn’t have a scooby.

[kingantti1874]

16 minutes ago, Pasquale for King said:

Indeed, a Sporting Director from

abroad too.

John Robertson Sporting Director

Stendel manager

 

would be my first choice right now.. happy characters around the club 

[stan]

Perhaps he applied for the job, then there was contact (from either side) to clarify his continued interest/withdrawal from consideration in light of Morecombe. No shortlisting/offer involved, just a routine conversation which was then dressed up to make a story.

[Dusk_Till_Dawn]

Just now, stan said:

Perhaps he applied for the job, then there was contact (from either side) to clarify his continued interest/withdrawal from consideration in light of Morecombe. No shortlisting/offer involved, just a routine conversation which was then dressed up to make a story.

Maybe. Maybe not.

[Cruyff Turn]

15 minutes ago, Dusk_Till_Dawn said:

You can see it though. Budge doesn’t have a scooby.

We’ll see. If true, shit like this doesn’t her any favours. Hopefully it’s pure pish and she’s got a list of actual real managers who’ve got good records at a decent level. 

[Robbo-Jambo]

23 minutes ago, Pasquale for King said:

Considering the options he has and the offers he’s been made both jobs in the capital are a step up from his current status. He will be lucky to manage again if that’s his attitude.

Up his own arse imo. 🙄

 

He can't need the money ffs. 

[Robbo-Jambo]

28 minutes ago, EIEIO said:

His record in league 1 and 2 with Plymouth who are one of the biggest sides at that level ,in terms of fan base and budget, is fairly unconvincing. Last season he nearly led them to relegation.

Plus he is a wee prick. 

[stan]

1 minute ago, Dusk_Till_Dawn said:

Maybe. Maybe not.

I can exclusively reveal I know heehaw 🙂 Just my supposition on why 90% of football rumours turn out to be entirely wrong. The remaining 10% being just mostly bull.

[Hectormasson]

2 hours ago, Cruyff Turn said:

Derek Adams “big named appointment”, that’ll be ****ing shining Ann. 

 

Seriously, If that is the level of Hearts ambition then they may as well go for Robinson, Neilson or Ross. 

 

What an absolute riddy if that is true. 

Seems like it was true ?🙈🙈🙈

[Ethan Hunt]

6 minutes ago, stan said:

Perhaps he applied for the job, then there was contact (from either side) to clarify his continued interest/withdrawal from consideration in light of Morecombe. No shortlisting/offer involved, just a routine conversation which was then dressed up to make a story.

This is probably more like it. 

 

I would be amazed if we haven’t received applications from far better managers than Derek Adams.

 

Forgetting Budges “very experienced, high profile” quote there is no way that the club will not be shortlisting and interviewing for this post. Whoever interviews best will get the job. For a newspaper to suggest we were just going to circumvent the whole process by going straight for Adams is, quite frankly, utter nonsense.

[Dusk_Till_Dawn]

2 minutes ago, Ethan Hunt said:

This is probably more like it. 

 

I would be amazed if we haven’t received applications from far better managers than Derek Adams.

 

Forgetting Budges “very experienced, high profile” quote there is no way that the club will not be shortlisting and interviewing for this post. Whoever interviews best will get the job. For a newspaper to suggest we were just going to circumvent the whole process by going straight for Adams is, quite frankly, utter nonsense.

Absolutely because it wasn’t like last time we did a big recruitment process and then just appointed Levein.

[Cruyff Turn]

8 minutes ago, kingantti1874 said:

John Robertson Sporting Director

Stendel manager

 

would be my first choice right now.. happy characters around the club 

Thing is mate, the Sporting Director will probably be 60% administrator 40% football guy.

 

More likely the be someone who that has been a Chief Scout/Head of Recruitment and a Sporting Director. Joe Savage of Preston or Stuart Harvey of Blackburn fit the bill.

 

I doubt it will be a current or former football manager. 

[Gorillajam]

I actually think he'd have done a decent job for us. He has contacts in England and knows how big Hearts are as a club. Overall he's done really well as a manager. He sounds better then Robertson, Holt, Wright etc.

[jr ewing]

Tam Flogel looking more attractive by the hour......tick tock....don't wait too long.

[pointon]

Jesus wept

[Back to 2005]

18 minutes ago, Robbo-Jambo said:

Plus he is a wee prick. 

This point shouldn't be underestimated! 

[Ethan Hunt]

Just now, Dusk_Till_Dawn said:

Absolutely because it wasn’t like last time we did a big recruitment process and then just appointed Levein.

And that’s another reason it wouldn’t have happened. Once bitten.

 

Budge outlined the process and the timeline during her press conference. Now if you - or anyone else - want to believe that she was telling lies then crack on. 

[Armageddon]

Agent - "Aye Hearts took his CV and said they'd be in touch"

 

The Scum - "HEARTS MISS OUT ON DEREK ADAMS LIKE"

[Dusk_Till_Dawn]

7 minutes ago, Ethan Hunt said:

And that’s another reason it wouldn’t have happened. Once bitten.

 

Budge outlined the process and the timeline during her press conference. Now if you - or anyone else - want to believe that she was telling lies then crack on. 

Not a case of telling lies. It’s a case of will she actually deliver? 

[jambonian]

1 hour ago, Barack said:

Well, if Jack Ross is rumoured to be wanting to speak to Hearts and Hibs for the job, I'd say that's equally concerning & worthy of an actual thread discussion.

 

Mods could just merge this then, and it can be lost to time.

Hibs can have Ross. Draw specialist.

[jambonian]

56 minutes ago, FarmerTweedy said:

I think the fact he'll be expecting a salary about 10 times what we're likely to be offering would probably be a factor too!

 

Indeed!

[afanderson33]

He’ll have applied for the job and we said thanks we received it. That’ll be it. People on here need to be more streetwise. PR department at Hearts will be well aware how this would be received. This is coming from one place only. Makes him seem good in his new fans eyes because he turned down a move to Hearts, allegedly, but stuck with Morecombe 

[Ethan Hunt]

2 minutes ago, Dusk_Till_Dawn said:

Not a case of telling lies. It’s a case of will she actually deliver? 

She’ll increase her chances if she follows the process she has set out and she knows that.

 

Not everyone will be happy with whoever she appoints. Time will tell whether she is right or not.

[doctor jambo]

24 minutes ago, pointon said:

Jesus wept

 Is that because  we not offer him an interview?

[amadjambo]

26 minutes ago, jr ewing said:

Tam Flogel looking more attractive by the hour......tick tock....don't wait too long.

With Stephane Adam as his Assistant.

[jr ewing]

6 minutes ago, amadjambo said:

With Stephane Adam as his Assistant.

Were you there last Friday night?

[jr ewing]

10 minutes ago, amadjambo said:

With Stephane Adam as his Assistant.

It was great to see them both.

[Pasquale for King]

1 hour ago, kingantti1874 said:

John Robertson Sporting Director

Stendel manager

 

would be my first choice right now.. happy characters around the club 

We need folk who have no care for the  OF or links to Scottish football imo.