Walter Bishop Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 BBC Sport @BBCSport It's official! Championship strugglers Stoke City have made an approach for Northern Ireland manager Michael O'Neill. More Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FORTHCLYDE Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 Stoke seek permission to speak to Northern Ireland manager. Come on Hearts get in there first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
salvo69 Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 They also did for Alex Neil....strange club with lots of talent on huge wages owned by billionaires from Stoke but are bottom of the Championship Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tokyowalnut Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 (edited) I wonder if he's want MacPhee? That would maybe save us another payout if we are getting rid of all the coaching staff and John Murray. Edited November 7, 2019 by tokyowalnut Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruyff Turn Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 Hearts can’t afford him. He isn’t even worth mentioning in connection to the Hearts job. I think he might even turn Stoke down tbh. He’s already earning megabucks at N.Ireland, he’s got a great gig there, why would he want the hassle of Stoke? Can’t see it happening imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irufushi Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 2 minutes ago, Cruyff Turn said: Hearts can’t afford him. He isn’t even worth mentioning in connection to the Hearts job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DH1986 Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 12 minutes ago, FORTHCLYDE said: Stoke seek permission to speak to Northern Ireland manager. Come on Hearts get in there first. We are about £500k a year short in his salary expectations before anything else he expects. Its never ever going to happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mundaydog Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 Why would he want to go to Stoke? Jobs like Stoke / Leeds / Notts Forest / Sunderland etc should be advertised as a temp position. Nobody every gets to keep the jobs long enough to be considered permanent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1874robbo Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 25 minutes ago, tokyowalnut said: I wonder if he's want MacPhee? That would maybe save us another payout if we are getting rid of all the coaching staff and John Murray. Let’s hope he will take Austin too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
true-jambo Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 17 minutes ago, DH1986 said: We are about £500k a year short in his salary expectations before anything else he expects. Its never ever going to happen. Plus the huge compensation NI would be due, which according to Sky Stoke haven't met yet, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bring Back Paulo Sergio Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 36 minutes ago, tokyowalnut said: I wonder if he's want MacPhee? That would maybe save us another payout if we are getting rid of all the coaching staff and John Murray. Where you hearing this from? What will we do without JM and his excellent use of Wyscout? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ibrahim Tall Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 He’d be silly to go to Stoke. He’s got a job for life at Stoke on excellent money. Stoke won’t pay better and there’s a decent chance he’d be out within a year. He doesn't need to look further than Chris Coleman quitting for Sunderland for an example. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJGJ Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 42 minutes ago, FORTHCLYDE said: Stoke seek permission to speak to Northern Ireland manager. Come on Hearts get in there first. When people post items like this do they never think before posting There is no chance he would come to us and yet we get posters trying to insinuate it'll be all our fault if they don't get him Next it'll be Klopp Or Pep and all the clubs fault if they don't come or even worse have not made an approach Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
upgotheheads Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 If he goes to Stoke he'll be on a seven figure salary, well out of our reach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Elwood P Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 2 minutes ago, CJGJ said: When people post items like this do they never think before posting There is no chance he would come to us and yet we get posters trying to insinuate it'll be all our fault if they don't get him Next it'll be Klopp Or Pep and all the clubs fault if they don't come or even worse have not made an approach Surely after 17k posts you can answer that question yourself? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJGJ Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 1 minute ago, Mr Elwood P said: Surely after 17k posts you can answer that question yourself? I try to think others don't it seems I will now take note and just accept the above Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Elwood P Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 2 minutes ago, CJGJ said: I try to think others don't it seems I will now take note and just accept the above Nothing like a managerial vacancy to demonstrate who knows what. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allyby Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 3 minutes ago, Mr Elwood P said: Nothing like a managerial vacancy to demonstrate who knows what. And no one knows owt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hueyview Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 1 hour ago, FORTHCLYDE said: Stoke seek permission to speak to Northern Ireland manager. Come on Hearts get in there first. He would have been a good Manager for Hearts... But good to see quality Managers being considered Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 29 minutes ago, true-jambo said: Plus the huge compensation NI would be due, which according to Sky Stoke haven't met yet, About £4 million Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hueyview Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 22 minutes ago, jambobob61 said: You missed Hearts off the list? 41 minutes ago, Mundaydog said: Why would he want to go to Stoke? Jobs like Stoke / Leeds / Notts Forest / Sunderland etc should be advertised as a temp position. Nobody every gets to keep the jobs long enough to be considered permanent. Leeds have been an absolute Banker for my fixed Odds coupon this year... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sooperstar Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 38 minutes ago, 1874robbo said: Let’s hope he will take Austin too. Aye, and he can take that long-haired guy with him too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruyff Turn Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 5 minutes ago, Mikey1874 said: About £4 million Seriously? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Elwood P Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 9 minutes ago, hueyview said: Leeds have been an absolute Banker for my fixed Odds coupon this year... Have they, aye? They've only won 8 of their 15 matches to date and have only won 2 of their last 5. Hate to see your dodgy picks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newton51 Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 Odds on with sky bet but it was same for Robinson with us and know how that’s gone so far Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shooter McGavin Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 (edited) Not that he was ever realistic but whatever we could pay, Stoke could no doubt treble it. Edited November 7, 2019 by Shooter McGavin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Elwood P Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 20 minutes ago, allyby said: And no one knows owt. That much is clear ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CAR Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 He has a clause in his contract that states he can do a club job and the NI gig! So if we were willing to let him do both there is no reason we couldn’t get him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 11 minutes ago, Cruyff Turn said: Seriously? Maybe not. Could be £6 million. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dayman Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 1 hour ago, Cruyff Turn said: Hearts can’t afford him. He isn’t even worth mentioning in connection to the Hearts job. I think he might even turn Stoke down tbh. He’s already earning megabucks at N.Ireland, he’s got a great gig there, why would he want the hassle of Stoke? Can’t see it happening imo. If he was to come to hearts he’d Have to still be the national team manager I’d think. Some extra money, not having to move from the city he lives in, working with the same assistant at both teams, numerous of your national team players with you every day, And with the sporting director in place he’d have an easier job than a normal manager would. I doubt national team managers do more than 5-10 hours of work a week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruyff Turn Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 4 minutes ago, Mikey1874 said: Maybe not. Could be £6 million. 😮 Hearts will match that 👀 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hueyview Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 11 minutes ago, Mr Elwood P said: Have they, aye? They've only won 8 of their 15 matches to date and have only won 2 of their last 5. Hate to see your dodgy picks! That surprises me, have seen them as odds on winners over the last few weeks.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Elwood P Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 2 minutes ago, hueyview said: That surprises me, have seen them as odds on winners over the last few weeks.... https://us.soccerway.com This is a great website for analysing form and making informed betting selections. Great for a BTTS bet as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruyff Turn Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 Just now, Dayman said: If he was to come to hearts he’d Have to still be the national team manager I’d think. Some extra money, not having to move from the city he lives in, working with the same assistant at both teams, numerous of your national team players with you every day, And with the sporting director in place he’d have an easier job than a normal manager would. I doubt national team managers do more than 5-10 hours of work a week. Only extra money until June when his N.Ire contracts up, then he’d be taking like at least a 66% pay cut for more of his time and more hassle. 😆 If you were in Michael O’Neills shoes, getting paid mega spondollies to prepare and manage a team 5-6 times a year (if that) with no expectations other than to do your best.. You’ve got a nice big bought house in the nicest City in one of the nicest areas, you see your wife & kids everyday, during the day you can have a wee game of golf & a few pints, would you take on the extra hassle of club management? IF and it’s a big IF, if he did not renew his N.Ireland contract and he doesn’t want to move elsewhere, then it may be a vague possibility that he might fancy it but the Scotland job might be vacant by then. At the moment it’s a pipe dream mate. The guys got the cooshtiest gig on planet earth and I doubt he’ll bother going elsewhere either tbh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Elwood P Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 8 minutes ago, Cruyff Turn said: Only extra money until June when his N.Ire contracts up, then he’d be taking like at least a 66% pay cut for more of his time and more hassle. 😆 If you were in Michael O’Neills shoes, getting paid mega spondollies to prepare and manage a team 5-6 times a year (if that) with no expectations other than to do your best.. You’ve got a nice big bought house in the nicest City in one of the nicest areas, you see your wife & kids everyday, during the day you can have a wee game of golf & a few pints, would you take on the extra hassle of club management? IF and it’s a big IF, if he did not renew his N.Ireland contract and he doesn’t want to move elsewhere, then it may be a vague possibility that he might fancy it but the Scotland job might be vacant by then. At the moment it’s a pipe dream mate. The guys got the cooshtiest gig on planet earth and I doubt he’ll bother going elsewhere either tbh. What about all these EPL and English Championship managers who get 5 year contracts, get sacked after 6 months and then get a mega pay off. They don't even have the inconvenience of a few games to attend per year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
busby1985 Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 Please Stoke, do the right thing and get this sorted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FruitJuice Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 1 hour ago, Bring Back Paulo Sergio said: Where you hearing this from? What will we do without JM and his excellent use of Wyscout? Give Murray some credit for saving the club money by not travelling to see players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 38 minutes ago, Cruyff Turn said: Only extra money until June when his N.Ire contracts up, then he’d be taking like at least a 66% pay cut for more of his time and more hassle. 😆 If you were in Michael O’Neills shoes, getting paid mega spondollies to prepare and manage a team 5-6 times a year (if that) with no expectations other than to do your best.. You’ve got a nice big bought house in the nicest City in one of the nicest areas, you see your wife & kids everyday, during the day you can have a wee game of golf & a few pints, would you take on the extra hassle of club management? IF and it’s a big IF, if he did not renew his N.Ireland contract and he doesn’t want to move elsewhere, then it may be a vague possibility that he might fancy it but the Scotland job might be vacant by then. At the moment it’s a pipe dream mate. The guys got the cooshtiest gig on planet earth and I doubt he’ll bother going elsewhere either tbh. Michael O'Neill has a contract with N.Ireland until 2024. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wavydavy Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 2 hours ago, tokyowalnut said: I wonder if he's want MacPhee? That would maybe save us another payout if we are getting rid of all the coaching staff and John Murray. He would be mad to take that job. It's been a Coaches Graveyard since Pulis left. Considering the money he is on for what is basically a part-time job he would be mad to take the Stoke job unless they were offering him crazy money which they might do of course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Slim Stylee Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 2 hours ago, FORTHCLYDE said: Stoke seek permission to speak to Northern Ireland manager. Come on Hearts get in there first. Tongue firmly in cheek....I’m hoping? Otherwise 😀😀 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 10 minutes ago, wavydavy said: He would be mad to take that job. It's been a Coaches Graveyard since Pulis left. Considering the money he is on for what is basically a part-time job he would be mad to take the Stoke job unless they were offering him crazy money which they might do of course. I would want a 6 year contract at a place like Stoke with guaranteed 3 years before any break clause. Will take that long to change things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvin Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 2 hours ago, Cruyff Turn said: Hearts can’t afford him. He isn’t even worth mentioning in connection to the Hearts job. I think he might even turn Stoke down tbh. He’s already earning megabucks at N.Ireland, he’s got a great gig there, why would he want the hassle of Stoke? Can’t see it happening imo. If he goes to Stoke them he's off his head. Stoke are the hibs of England and will be relegated at end of the season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevie1874 Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 1 hour ago, CAR said: He has a clause in his contract that states he can do a club job and the NI gig! So if we were willing to let him do both there is no reason we couldn’t get him Interesting if true, not being cheeky but how do you know that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deejtee Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 2 hours ago, CJGJ said: When people post items like this do they never think before posting There is no chance he would come to us and yet we get posters trying to insinuate it'll be all our fault if they don't get him Next it'll be Klopp Or Pep and all the clubs fault if they don't come or even worse have not made an approach So that you can feel smug making replies and putting them right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Dee Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 I’m amazed at how unrealistic some supporters are being about who they want our next manager to be. Moyes and O’Neill are capable of managing at a much higher standard than we are -& also earn much more money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Old Tolbooth Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 Please take the Stoke job and take the hippy with you, pretty please! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boag1874 Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 I doubt he’ll go to stoke but he certainly won’t be going to hearts, we can’t afford him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dayman Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 2 hours ago, Cruyff Turn said: Only extra money until June when his N.Ire contracts up, then he’d be taking like at least a 66% pay cut for more of his time and more hassle. 😆 If you were in Michael O’Neills shoes, getting paid mega spondollies to prepare and manage a team 5-6 times a year (if that) with no expectations other than to do your best.. You’ve got a nice big bought house in the nicest City in one of the nicest areas, you see your wife & kids everyday, during the day you can have a wee game of golf & a few pints, would you take on the extra hassle of club management? IF and it’s a big IF, if he did not renew his N.Ireland contract and he doesn’t want to move elsewhere, then it may be a vague possibility that he might fancy it but the Scotland job might be vacant by then. At the moment it’s a pipe dream mate. The guys got the cooshtiest gig on planet earth and I doubt he’ll bother going elsewhere either tbh. Yeah, I’m not saying he’d take it, just if he did then it would only be if he could do both at once as it’s the only financially available option for hearts. I doubt he would, unless he wanted to dip his toe back into club football to increase his next club offer. Do well with hearts and Northern Ireland and then maybe a bigger club will come calling?! There’s no other team the size of hearts that it may be a possibility to do both with I’d say. Buta yeah, I agree, unless he doesn’t have his contract renewed then I highly doubt he’d even consider it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fabienleclerq Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 4 hours ago, Ibrahim Tall said: He’d be silly to go to Stoke. He’s got a job for life at Stoke on excellent money. Stoke won’t pay better and there’s a decent chance he’d be out within a year. He doesn't need to look further than Chris Coleman quitting for Sunderland for an example. I suppose Coleman still got his contract paid up so it's not like he lost a tonne of money. I doubt any of these managers have money worries and it's more about what they'll get in terms of budgets etc. Maybe o'Neil wants back to club football? His NI achievements wont last forever and his squad is ageing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusk_Till_Dawn Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 Done deal, he’s going there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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