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It's official! Championship strugglers Stoke City have made an approach for Northern Ireland manager Michael O'Neill. More
 

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FORTHCLYDE

Stoke seek permission to speak to Northern Ireland manager. 

Come on Hearts get in there first.

 

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salvo69

They also did for Alex Neil....strange club with lots of talent on huge wages owned by billionaires from Stoke but are bottom of the Championship 

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tokyowalnut

I wonder if he's want MacPhee? That would maybe save us another payout if we are getting rid of all the coaching staff and John Murray. 

Edited by tokyowalnut

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Cruyff Turn

Hearts can’t afford him. He isn’t even worth mentioning in connection to the Hearts job.

 

I think he might even turn Stoke down tbh. He’s already earning megabucks at N.Ireland, he’s got a great gig there, why would he want the hassle of Stoke? Can’t see it happening imo. 

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Irufushi
2 minutes ago, Cruyff Turn said:

Hearts can’t afford him. He isn’t even worth mentioning in connection to the Hearts job.

 


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DH1986
12 minutes ago, FORTHCLYDE said:

Stoke seek permission to speak to Northern Ireland manager. 

Come on Hearts get in there first.

 

We are about £500k a year short in his salary expectations before anything else he expects.

 

Its never ever going to happen.

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Mundaydog

Why would he want to go to Stoke? 

Jobs like Stoke / Leeds / Notts Forest / Sunderland etc should be advertised as a temp position.

 

Nobody every gets to keep the jobs long enough to be considered permanent.

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1874robbo
25 minutes ago, tokyowalnut said:

I wonder if he's want MacPhee? That would maybe save us another payout if we are getting rid of all the coaching staff and John Murray. 

Let’s hope he will take Austin too.

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true-jambo
17 minutes ago, DH1986 said:

We are about £500k a year short in his salary expectations before anything else he expects.

 

Its never ever going to happen.

Plus the huge compensation NI would be due, which according to Sky Stoke haven't met yet, 

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Bring Back Paulo Sergio
36 minutes ago, tokyowalnut said:

I wonder if he's want MacPhee? That would maybe save us another payout if we are getting rid of all the coaching staff and John Murray.

 

Where you hearing this from? What will we do without JM and his excellent use of Wyscout?

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jambobob61
18 minutes ago, Mundaydog said:

Why would he want to go to Stoke? 

Jobs like Stoke / Leeds / Notts Forest / Sunderland etc should be advertised as a temp position.

 

Nobody every gets to keep the jobs long enough to be considered permanent.

You missed Hearts off the list?

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Ibrahim Tall

He’d be silly to go to Stoke. He’s got a job for life at Stoke on excellent money. Stoke won’t pay better and there’s a decent chance he’d be out within a year. 

 

He doesn't need to look further than Chris Coleman quitting for Sunderland for an example.

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CJGJ
42 minutes ago, FORTHCLYDE said:

Stoke seek permission to speak to Northern Ireland manager. 

Come on Hearts get in there first.

 

When people post items like this do they never think before posting

 

There is no chance he would come to us and yet we get posters trying to insinuate it'll be all our fault if they don't get him

 

Next it'll be Klopp Or Pep and all the clubs fault if they don't come or even worse have not made an approach

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upgotheheads

If he goes to Stoke he'll be on a seven figure salary, well out of our reach. 

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Mr Elwood P
2 minutes ago, CJGJ said:

When people post items like this do they never think before posting

 

There is no chance he would come to us and yet we get posters trying to insinuate it'll be all our fault if they don't get him

 

Next it'll be Klopp Or Pep and all the clubs fault if they don't come or even worse have not made an approach

 

Surely after 17k posts you can answer that question yourself?

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farin

He’s out of our league budget wise sadly. 

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CJGJ
1 minute ago, Mr Elwood P said:

 

Surely after 17k posts you can answer that question yourself?

I try to think others don't it seems

 

I will now take note and just accept the above ;)

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Mr Elwood P
2 minutes ago, CJGJ said:

I try to think others don't it seems

 

I will now take note and just accept the above ;)

 

Nothing like a managerial vacancy to demonstrate who knows what.

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allyby
3 minutes ago, Mr Elwood P said:

 

Nothing like a managerial vacancy to demonstrate who knows what.

And no one knows owt.

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hueyview
1 hour ago, FORTHCLYDE said:

Stoke seek permission to speak to Northern Ireland manager. 

Come on Hearts get in there first.

 

He would have been a good Manager for Hearts...  But good to see quality Managers being considered

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Mikey1874
29 minutes ago, true-jambo said:

Plus the huge compensation NI would be due, which according to Sky Stoke haven't met yet, 

 

About £4 million 

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hueyview
22 minutes ago, jambobob61 said:

You missed Hearts off the list?

 

41 minutes ago, Mundaydog said:

Why would he want to go to Stoke? 

Jobs like Stoke / Leeds / Notts Forest / Sunderland etc should be advertised as a temp position.

 

Nobody every gets to keep the jobs long enough to be considered permanent.

Leeds have been an absolute Banker for my fixed Odds coupon this year...

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Sooperstar
38 minutes ago, 1874robbo said:

Let’s hope he will take Austin too.

Aye, and he can take that long-haired guy with him too.

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Cruyff Turn
5 minutes ago, Mikey1874 said:

 

About £4 million 

Seriously? :vrwow:

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Mr Elwood P
9 minutes ago, hueyview said:

 

Leeds have been an absolute Banker for my fixed Odds coupon this year...

 

Have they, aye? They've only won 8 of their 15 matches to date and have only won 2 of their last 5. Hate to see your dodgy picks!

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Newton51

Odds on with sky bet but it was same for Robinson with us and know how that’s gone so far

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Shooter McGavin

Not that he was ever realistic but whatever we could pay, Stoke could no doubt treble it.

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Mr Elwood P
20 minutes ago, allyby said:

And no one knows owt.

 

That much is clear ...

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CAR

He has a clause in his contract that states he can do a club job and the NI gig! So if we were willing to let him do both there is no reason we couldn’t get him

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Mikey1874
11 minutes ago, Cruyff Turn said:

Seriously? :vrwow:

 

Maybe not.

 

Could be £6 million.

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Dayman
1 hour ago, Cruyff Turn said:

Hearts can’t afford him. He isn’t even worth mentioning in connection to the Hearts job.

 

I think he might even turn Stoke down tbh. He’s already earning megabucks at N.Ireland, he’s got a great gig there, why would he want the hassle of Stoke? Can’t see it happening imo. 

If he was to come to hearts he’d Have to still be the national team manager I’d think. Some extra money, not having to move from the city he lives in, working with the same assistant at both teams, numerous of your national team players with you every day, And with the sporting director in place he’d have an easier job than a normal manager would. I doubt national team managers do more than 5-10 hours of work a week. 

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Cruyff Turn
4 minutes ago, Mikey1874 said:

 

Maybe not.

 

Could be £6 million.

😮 Hearts will match that 👀

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hueyview
11 minutes ago, Mr Elwood P said:

 

Have they, aye? They've only won 8 of their 15 matches to date and have only won 2 of their last 5. Hate to see your dodgy picks!

That surprises me, have seen them as odds on winners over the last few weeks....

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Mr Elwood P
2 minutes ago, hueyview said:

That surprises me, have seen them as odds on winners over the last few weeks....

 

https://us.soccerway.com

 

This is a great website for analysing form and making informed betting selections. Great for a BTTS bet as well.

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Cruyff Turn
Just now, Dayman said:

If he was to come to hearts he’d Have to still be the national team manager I’d think. Some extra money, not having to move from the city he lives in, working with the same assistant at both teams, numerous of your national team players with you every day, And with the sporting director in place he’d have an easier job than a normal manager would. I doubt national team managers do more than 5-10 hours of work a week. 

Only extra money until June when his N.Ire contracts up, then he’d be taking like at least a 66% pay cut for more of his time and more hassle. 😆 

 

If you were in Michael O’Neills shoes, getting paid mega spondollies to prepare and manage a team 5-6 times a year (if that) with no expectations other than to do your best.. You’ve got a nice big bought house in the nicest City in one of the nicest areas, you see your wife & kids everyday, during the day you can have a wee game of golf & a few pints, would you take on the extra hassle of club management?

 

IF and it’s a big IF, if he did not renew his N.Ireland contract and he doesn’t want to move elsewhere, then it may be a vague possibility that he might fancy it but the Scotland job might be vacant by then. 

 

At the moment it’s a pipe dream mate. The guys got the cooshtiest gig on planet earth and I doubt he’ll bother going elsewhere either tbh.

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Mr Elwood P
8 minutes ago, Cruyff Turn said:

Only extra money until June when his N.Ire contracts up, then he’d be taking like at least a 66% pay cut for more of his time and more hassle. 😆 

 

If you were in Michael O’Neills shoes, getting paid mega spondollies to prepare and manage a team 5-6 times a year (if that) with no expectations other than to do your best.. You’ve got a nice big bought house in the nicest City in one of the nicest areas, you see your wife & kids everyday, during the day you can have a wee game of golf & a few pints, would you take on the extra hassle of club management?

 

IF and it’s a big IF, if he did not renew his N.Ireland contract and he doesn’t want to move elsewhere, then it may be a vague possibility that he might fancy it but the Scotland job might be vacant by then. 

 

At the moment it’s a pipe dream mate. The guys got the cooshtiest gig on planet earth and I doubt he’ll bother going elsewhere either tbh.

 

What about all these EPL and English Championship managers who get 5 year contracts, get sacked after 6 months and then get a mega pay off. They don't even have the inconvenience of a few games to attend per year.

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busby1985

Please Stoke, do the right thing and get this sorted. 

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FruitJuice
1 hour ago, Bring Back Paulo Sergio said:

 

Where you hearing this from? What will we do without JM and his excellent use of Wyscout?

Give Murray some credit for saving the club money by not travelling to see players.  

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Mikey1874
38 minutes ago, Cruyff Turn said:

Only extra money until June when his N.Ire contracts up, then he’d be taking like at least a 66% pay cut for more of his time and more hassle. 😆 

 

If you were in Michael O’Neills shoes, getting paid mega spondollies to prepare and manage a team 5-6 times a year (if that) with no expectations other than to do your best.. You’ve got a nice big bought house in the nicest City in one of the nicest areas, you see your wife & kids everyday, during the day you can have a wee game of golf & a few pints, would you take on the extra hassle of club management?

 

IF and it’s a big IF, if he did not renew his N.Ireland contract and he doesn’t want to move elsewhere, then it may be a vague possibility that he might fancy it but the Scotland job might be vacant by then. 

 

At the moment it’s a pipe dream mate. The guys got the cooshtiest gig on planet earth and I doubt he’ll bother going elsewhere either tbh.

 

Michael O'Neill has a contract with N.Ireland until 2024.

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wavydavy
2 hours ago, tokyowalnut said:

I wonder if he's want MacPhee? That would maybe save us another payout if we are getting rid of all the coaching staff and John Murray. 

 

He would be mad to take that job. It's been a Coaches Graveyard since Pulis left.

 

Considering the money he is on for what is basically a part-time job he would be mad to take the Stoke job unless they were offering him crazy money which they might do of course.

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Big Slim Stylee
2 hours ago, FORTHCLYDE said:

Stoke seek permission to speak to Northern Ireland manager. 

Come on Hearts get in there first.

 

 

Tongue firmly in cheek....I’m hoping? Otherwise 😀😀

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Mikey1874
10 minutes ago, wavydavy said:

 

He would be mad to take that job. It's been a Coaches Graveyard since Pulis left.

 

Considering the money he is on for what is basically a part-time job he would be mad to take the Stoke job unless they were offering him crazy money which they might do of course.

 

I would want a 6 year contract at a place like Stoke with guaranteed 3 years before any break clause. 

 

Will take that long to change things. 

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Marvin
2 hours ago, Cruyff Turn said:

Hearts can’t afford him. He isn’t even worth mentioning in connection to the Hearts job.

 

I think he might even turn Stoke down tbh. He’s already earning megabucks at N.Ireland, he’s got a great gig there, why would he want the hassle of Stoke? Can’t see it happening imo. 

 

If he goes to Stoke them he's off his head. Stoke are the hibs of England and will  be relegated at end of the season.

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stevie1874
1 hour ago, CAR said:

He has a clause in his contract that states he can do a club job and the NI gig! So if we were willing to let him do both there is no reason we couldn’t get him

Interesting if true, not being cheeky but how do you know that?

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deejtee
2 hours ago, CJGJ said:

When people post items like this do they never think before posting

 

There is no chance he would come to us and yet we get posters trying to insinuate it'll be all our fault if they don't get him

 

Next it'll be Klopp Or Pep and all the clubs fault if they don't come or even worse have not made an approach

So that you can feel smug making replies and putting them right?

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Mister Dee

I’m amazed at how unrealistic some supporters are being about who they want our next manager to be. 
Moyes and O’Neill are capable of managing at a much higher standard than we are -& also earn much more money. 

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The Old Tolbooth

Please take the Stoke job and take the hippy with you, pretty please! 

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boag1874

I doubt he’ll go to stoke but he certainly won’t be going to hearts, we can’t afford him

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Dayman
2 hours ago, Cruyff Turn said:

Only extra money until June when his N.Ire contracts up, then he’d be taking like at least a 66% pay cut for more of his time and more hassle. 😆 

 

If you were in Michael O’Neills shoes, getting paid mega spondollies to prepare and manage a team 5-6 times a year (if that) with no expectations other than to do your best.. You’ve got a nice big bought house in the nicest City in one of the nicest areas, you see your wife & kids everyday, during the day you can have a wee game of golf & a few pints, would you take on the extra hassle of club management?

 

IF and it’s a big IF, if he did not renew his N.Ireland contract and he doesn’t want to move elsewhere, then it may be a vague possibility that he might fancy it but the Scotland job might be vacant by then. 

 

At the moment it’s a pipe dream mate. The guys got the cooshtiest gig on planet earth and I doubt he’ll bother going elsewhere either tbh.

Yeah, I’m not saying he’d take it, just if he did then it would only be if he could do both at once as it’s the only financially available option for hearts. I doubt he would, unless he wanted to dip his toe back into club football to increase his next club offer. Do well with hearts and Northern Ireland and then maybe a bigger club will come calling?! There’s no other team the size of hearts that it may be a possibility to do both with I’d say. 
 

Buta yeah, I agree, unless he doesn’t have his contract renewed then I highly doubt he’d even consider it. 

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