Adam Murray Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 1 minute ago, dobmisterdobster said: I appreciate the effort but unfortunately tactical voting rarely works. Most people aren't bothered. I agree, but with some of the small winning margins from 2017, I think it's squeaky bum time for a few of those MP's who probably thought they were comfortable for another few years at least. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Murray Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 8 minutes ago, Cade said: 32 seats across the UK where Tories hold a majority of less than 2,500 over Labour in 2nd place last time out. 2 seats across the UK where the Tories hold a majority of less than 2,500 over LibDems in 2nd place last time out. 27 seats across the UK where Labour hold a majority of less than 2,500 over Tories in 2nd place last time out. 1 seat across the UK where Labour hold a majority of less than 2,500 over LibDems in 2nd place last time out. 5 seats across the UK where LibDems hold a majority of less than 2,500 over last Election's winners. 5 seats in Scotland where Tories were less than 2,500 votes behind the SNP. 12 seats in Scotland where Labour were less than 2,500 votes behind the SNP. 7 seats in Scotland where the SNP were less than 2,500 votes behind last Election's winners. 102 seats across the UK where the majority for any party was less than 2,500 last time out. Fine margins everywhere. And 15 seats won in Scotland by the SNP by less than 1500 votes, with 4 of those seats being won by less than 100 votes. Fine margins indeed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cade Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Zlatanable said: I think you are maybe missing the bigger picture in Scotland when it comes to the issue of Nationalism and Brexit. Voters in Scottish constituencies most likely to return the "We Speak For Scotland" voices, might feel they are left without much of a choice. These are just raw data from 2017's results. Things are very different now and with UKIP exploding into full-on neo-nazism and Farage's new lot being on the scene, it's difficult to predict anything. Especially when this election is more or less a single issue one on Brexit. Just goes to show how close Labour came to actually winning it outright in 2017. And, at the same time, how close the Tories were to a decent sized majority. Data is great. Edited October 29, 2019 by Cade Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2 Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 16 minutes ago, indianajones said: I urge you all to vote correctly and rid this nation of tory scum. Stereotyping all Tories as scum is inappropriate and offensive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Gin Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 4 minutes ago, H2 said: Stereotyping all Tories as scum is inappropriate and offensive. But also accurate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Gin Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 Never trust a Tory. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2 Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 1 minute ago, Ray Gin said: But also accurate. Also inappropriate and offensive. Society tries to get rid of prejudices, but for some reason some people think it is okay to abuse others because of their political views. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2 Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 3 minutes ago, Ray Gin said: Never trust a Tory. On what grounds do you make such a statement? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roxy Hearts Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 (edited) Daughter and boyfriend SNP converts tonight. She was going to vote Labour as doesn't want Brexit but advised her they're a duplicitous, untrustworthy party who don't care much for Scotland. Easily done as I was ex Labour. Told her to read about the enlightenment etc but had already done it at school a few years ago. Hopefully get that bint Jardine out of Edinburgh West. Edited October 29, 2019 by Roxy Hearts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taffin Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 I live in an absolute nailed on Conservative constituency 😭 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Gin Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 17 minutes ago, Zlatanable said: Never trust a Scottish nationalist. Is that ok to say? Not when a Tory is saying it, because as we all know, they can't be trusted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roxy Hearts Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 1 minute ago, Zlatanable said: I don't doubt you Roxy, but maybe they were just saying that to you so you would stop banging on. I didn't Zlat. She asked my opinion and I explained it in basic terms. She's not political and I don't talk about much as the wife is either a tory or a Lib! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Gin Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 This is how much respect Baw Jaws has for Scotland https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/politics/boris-johnson-sparks-fury-after-20709629 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Gin Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 2 minutes ago, Zlatanable said: this story is five days old though, isn't it? So really recent and relevant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo, Goodbye Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 2 hours ago, The Frenchman Returns said: It's official, 12th December, the nation will decide. You mean 'England will decide". Scotland has influenced the election three times since 1945! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roxy Hearts Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 2 minutes ago, Zlatanable said: 🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 (edited) 3 hours ago, The Frenchman Returns said: It's official, 12th December, the nation will decide. It’s not a Nation or a country, it’s a failed economic union on its last legs. Edited October 30, 2019 by Pasquale for King Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 22 minutes ago, Jambo, Goodbye said: You mean 'England will decide". Scotland has influenced the election three times since 1945! Indeed, and another Tory government seems likely unfortunately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwindonJambo Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 35 minutes ago, Taffin said: I live in an absolute nailed on Conservative constituency 😭 So do I. A chimpanzee in a blue rosette would win here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadj Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, Costanza said: A hung parliament with the Tories needing a deal with the Brexit Party to claim a majority. A country totally and utterly ****ed. Merry Christmas! i hope Bowie gets destroyed absolute no regard for his constituents only his party. Agree with your post big fear is Tory win Labour ruined (Hopefully Lib Dem/Brexit Party - split votes and take some seats) and BJ waltzing to a no deal with the Tory careerists who have no balls to stand up for the afore mentioned constituents. Edited October 30, 2019 by sadj Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckydug Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 It's my view that no election should be taking place before Brexit. All that's going to happen is it will be all about Brexit and the many other important issues will be ignored as has happened ever since that bloody referenfum three years ago. I dislike the Tories but at least if they win they will be held responsible for the carnage that follows. Labour should focus on domestic issues and not get drawn into a bun fight over Brexit. This applies especially in their Brexit voting areas in the North of England. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 2 minutes ago, Zlatanable said: Or, it is one of the most successful cultural and political unions in recent times that is able to absorb changes. Successful at raping and pillaging every continent on the planet, yes. Absorb to changes, like it has to the last two referendums? Dead in the water, it’s when not if. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 51 minutes ago, Zlatanable said: Not being shan, but are you referring to the EU, or the countries in the EU? No your just being daft, I’m talking about the UK as this thread is about the upcoming GE. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo, Goodbye Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 3 hours ago, Zlatanable said: Technically, every vote in every constituency has decided every election. Technicalities don't hide my point very well though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 6 hours ago, Zlatanable said: anti-nationalists might vote Tory Tory are nationalists. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 5 hours ago, Zlatanable said: I hope this General Election result takes the wind out of the Nationalists' sails. The nationalists have been taking the people of Scotland for granted, and they have got too comfortable doing so. A lot of voters in Scotland don't care for them and their shtick. One things for sure, the people of Scotland hate the Tories even more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 Tick Tick UK!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 Farage DPM Independence at last! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 5 hours ago, dobmisterdobster said: I will be voting for Boris. Not because he is the most compelling but because everyone else is that much less compelling. The leader of The Fourth Reich with Farage his right winged man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DETTY29 Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 (edited) 20 minutes ago, ri Alban said: Farage DPM Independence at last! Funny stance and position for a man who hates politics to take up. Edited October 30, 2019 by DETTY29 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 5 minutes ago, DETTY29 said: Funny stance and position for a man who hates politics to take up. POWER!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DETTY29 Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 2 minutes ago, ri Alban said: POWER!!! A desire to always be relevant and in the public eye. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 1 minute ago, DETTY29 said: A desire to always be relevant and in the public eye. The only thing worse than people talking about you, is people not talking about you. Brexit has now tilted the decision maker of the UK to the extreme right and for now we all go for a wee runabout on the right-wing of society. Labour are a disgrace! David Milliband get yourself here, now! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Montgomery Brewster Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 7 hours ago, indianajones said: I urge you all to vote correctly and rid this nation of tory scum. I have said constantly how anyone with a shred of common decency could ever vote for such a shower of cretins. Horrible policies. the me me me I am alright jack party. absolute scum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Montgomery Brewster Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 6 hours ago, SwindonJambo said: So do I. A chimpanzee in a blue rosette would win here. I think you mean a turd with a blue rosette Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shanks said no Posted October 30, 2019 Author Share Posted October 30, 2019 Midlothian 2017 Labour Danielle Rowley 16,458 Scottish National Party Owen Thompson 15,573 Conservative Chris Donnelly 11,521 Liberal Democrat Ross Laird 1,721 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shanks said no Posted October 30, 2019 Author Share Posted October 30, 2019 Linlithgow & Falkirk East 2017 Scottish National Party Martyn Day 20,388 Labour Joan Coombes 17,469 Conservative Charles Kennedy 16,311 Liberal Democrat Sally Pattle 1,926 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mighty Thor Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 46 minutes ago, Montgomery Brewster said: the me me me I am alright jack party. A party that perfectly reflects a huge chunk of the UK's population and wider societal attitudes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 8 hours ago, Zlatanable said: No, more like inaccurate, and old fashioned. Jacob Rees Mogg come on down! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Sausage Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 Dominic Raab is my MP. Got 60+% of the vote last time with LDs in 2nd with 12%. Safe to say my vote won’t matter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambos_1874 Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 How come Irish citizens can vote n UK elections? Is it because NI citizens can take Irish citizenship if they want, but if they still reside in NI they should be able to vote in their "local" election? Can we vote in Irish elections? https://www.electoralcommission.org.uk/i-am-a/voter/register-vote-and-update-your-details Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DETTY29 Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 4 minutes ago, Captain Sausage said: Dominic Raab is my MP. Got 60+% of the vote last time with LDs in 2nd with 12%. Safe to say my vote won’t matter. Post dog poo through his letter box on poliing day instead of casting a vote? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DETTY29 Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Jambos_1874 said: How come Irish citizens can vote n UK elections? Is it because NI citizens can take Irish citizenship if they want, but if they still reside in NI they should be able to vote in their "local" election? Can we vote in Irish elections? https://www.electoralcommission.org.uk/i-am-a/voter/register-vote-and-update-your-details Ireland Act 1946? Edited October 30, 2019 by DETTY29 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Montgomery Brewster Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 59 minutes ago, The Mighty Thor said: A party that perfectly reflects a huge chunk of the UK's population and wider societal attitudes. Correct Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Sausage Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 42 minutes ago, DETTY29 said: Post dog poo through his letter box on poliing day instead of casting a vote? I’d do a jobby through his letterbox but I believe he lives in a gated community where us mere plebs cannot access. A true man of the people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 48 minutes ago, Jambos_1874 said: How come Irish citizens can vote n UK elections? Is it because NI citizens can take Irish citizenship if they want, but if they still reside in NI they should be able to vote in their "local" election? Can we vote in Irish elections? https://www.electoralcommission.org.uk/i-am-a/voter/register-vote-and-update-your-details We have a free relationship with Ireland that reflects our close links. Freedom of movement and voting reflect that. Before and apart from the Peace Agreement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo-Jimbo Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 56 minutes ago, Captain Sausage said: Dominic Raab is my MP. Got 60+% of the vote last time with LDs in 2nd with 12%. Safe to say my vote won’t matter. Similar here, I'm in Mundell's constituency and he won with over a 9,000 majority or 49% of the vote, which is a huge margin for a constituency this size. SNP came second with just over 30%, Labour & the Lib Dems are as well not bothering as they are a distant 3rd & 4th whose total votes combined were only very slightly more than Mundell's winning margin of 9,000. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brighton Jambo Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 9 hours ago, Jambo, Goodbye said: You mean 'England will decide". Scotland has influenced the election three times since 1945! Including the last one where if Scotland hadn’t returned 13 conservative MP’s we wouldn’t have had a conservative government. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cade Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 The Lord could still amend the bill and Boris can still vote against it at a deeper stage of the legislation and we end up with no election. Watch this space. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Maroonblood Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 2 minutes ago, Cade said: The Lord could still amend the bill and Boris can still vote against it at a deeper stage of the legislation and we end up with no election. Watch this space. The unelected House of Lords can amend the bill. What a farce. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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