gov Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 Hearts are reportedly monitoring the progress of Raith Rovers youngster Kieron Bowie. The 17-year old made his senior debut for the Kirkcaldy club at the tail end of the 2018/19 season while still at school. His impressive performances with the first team persuaded Raith to tie him down on a new contract last summer, the deal trying him to his boyhood club until 2022. Anyone seen him or heard much about him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Салатные палочки Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 Says he's an attacker. But I'm sure we could beat that out of him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j1964m Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 If he is injured a lot will fit in perfectly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DETTY29 Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 Different topic, same crap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tasavallan Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 The trickle up effect. This is how football works and why I am not surprised at the interest being shown in Aaron Hickey. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PB21 Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 I coach kids football in Fife and Kieron played against us many times. Fantastic left foot with pace and power. Has many attributes for sure. He only made the full time step up to Raith last year as was still playing boys club until he turned 16. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nookie Bear Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 2 minutes ago, PB21 said: I coach kids football in Fife and Kieron played against us many times. Fantastic left foot with pace and power. Has many attributes for sure. He only made the full time step up to Raith last year as was still playing boys club until he turned 16. Me like Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gov Posted October 17, 2019 Author Share Posted October 17, 2019 (edited) 4 minutes ago, PB21 said: I coach kids football in Fife and Kieron played against us many times. Fantastic left foot with pace and power. Has many attributes for sure. He only made the full time step up to Raith last year as was still playing boys club until he turned 16. Thanks, that is the kind of information i was looking for. Others just seem hell bent on moaning that it's just woeful looking at kickback these days Edited October 17, 2019 by gov Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Last Laff Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 Who are Raith playing this weekend? Oh! Doh! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Absolute Scenes Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 does he pass the "supporters" test? : - will he score with his first touch inside 5 minutes of his debut? - will he work really hard, but also not work too hard, in case he falls into the "headless chicken" category, but still work hard and not be chicken hearted? - will he respond with utmost confidence when he misplaces his first pass and his family is assaulted by the Tynecastle loyal? - will he happy to be personally attacked on all social media platforms and be expected to take personal abuse as "part of the job" because footballers are paid enough to accept abuse? If he answers "no" to any of these crucial statements, then its an absolutely horrendous piece of wage thieving business and i'll personally drive him to the airport myself, help pack his bags and then demand Anne Budge leaves, all the while protesting outside the stadium with my 4 other protestors for Luveen to go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
We_are_the_Hearts Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 We ruin strikers. Stay away son! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PB21 Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 7 minutes ago, gov said: Thanks, that is the kind of information i was looking for. Others just seem hell bent on moaning that it's just woeful looking at kickback these days Yeah kickback getting worse! He only left boys club around this time last year, hes worked really hard to be where he is as he was overlooked at various pro youth clubs for a long time. His goalscoring record was something like 170/180 in 105 games. As was a local article about his rise. Couple lads in my tea friends with him and off the pitch he keeps self to self. Tends to avoid parties until silly o clock etc. for example Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tasavallan Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 11 minutes ago, PB21 said: I coach kids football in Fife and Kieron played against us many times. Fantastic left foot with pace and power. Has many attributes for sure. He only made the full time step up to Raith last year as was still playing boys club until he turned 16. Likewise, I did similar in West Lothian. In my opinion there is not enough effort placed on scouting youth club players at the older age groups (U16, U17 & U19). Players should never consider themselves passed over just because they were not picked up at U13, U14 or U15. My lad was fortunate to have been spotted at an early age but many who play for rural youth clubs are not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
upgotheheads Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 1 minute ago, Tasavallan said: Likewise, I did similar in West Lothian. In my opinion there is not enough effort placed on scouting youth club players at the older age groups (U16, U17 & U19). Players should never consider themselves passed over just because they were not picked up at U13, U14 or U15. My lad was fortunate to have been spotted at an early age but many who play for rural youth clubs are not. Didn't Calum Paterson come through a similar route? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gov Posted October 17, 2019 Author Share Posted October 17, 2019 7 minutes ago, PB21 said: Yeah kickback getting worse! He only left boys club around this time last year, hes worked really hard to be where he is as he was overlooked at various pro youth clubs for a long time. His goalscoring record was something like 170/180 in 105 games. As was a local article about his rise. Couple lads in my tea friends with him and off the pitch he keeps self to self. Tends to avoid parties until silly o clock etc. for example Sounds like he is switched on and wants to progress! should get him in if his goal scoring record is that good! surprised he sounds like he slipped through the net with the pro teams but sounds a prospect. thanks for the info mate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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PB21 Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 4 minutes ago, Tasavallan said: Likewise, I did similar in West Lothian. In my opinion there is not enough effort placed on scouting youth club players at the older age groups (U16, U17 & U19). Players should never consider themselves passed over just because they were not picked up at U13, U14 or U15. My lad was fortunate to have been spotted at an early age but many who play for rural youth clubs are not. Yeah defo not enough effort - its poor. We are u19s but i actually have a 16 year old GK, who is class but hes never been watched. I've been fortunate to play at decent myself in past so knew some scouts who could come along. A few have now watched him and he has 4 trials lined up but this has only come about due to me contacting them, it shouldn't be that way. Scouts stopped watching our games when turned u16s which is v poor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i8hibsh Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 1 hour ago, Salad Fingers said: Says he's an attacker. But I'm sure we could beat that out of him. 2nd post. Take a bow sir Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Governor Tarkin Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 38 minutes ago, Absolute Scenes said: does he pass the "supporters" test? : - will he score with his first touch inside 5 minutes of his debut? - will he work really hard, but also not work too hard, in case he falls into the "headless chicken" category, but still work hard and not be chicken hearted? - will he respond with utmost confidence when he misplaces his first pass and his family is assaulted by the Tynecastle loyal? - will he happy to be personally attacked on all social media platforms and be expected to take personal abuse as "part of the job" because footballers are paid enough to accept abuse? If he answers "no" to any of these crucial statements, then its an absolutely horrendous piece of wage thieving business and i'll personally drive him to the airport myself, help pack his bags and then demand Anne Budge leaves, all the while protesting outside the stadium with my 4 other protestors for Luveen to go. The only test PHM need to worry about is "Does he have a Celticy sounding name?". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgan Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 1 minute ago, Governor Tarkin said: The only test PHM need to worry about is "Does he have a Celticy sounding name?". He’s doomed, in that case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Famous 1874 Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 Know a few Raith fans and they say he looks pretty decent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Old Tolbooth Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 He's no Lawrence Shankland... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Absolute Scenes Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 35 minutes ago, Governor Tarkin said: The only test PHM need to worry about is "Does he have a Celticy sounding name?". I totally forgot this one ☹️ See, even I’m not full PHM status 😭😭 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goldie83 Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 29 minutes ago, Famous 1874 said: Know a few Raith fans and they say he looks pretty decent A few........not sure I’m buying that. One maybe but a few........ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_razors_edge Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 1 hour ago, PB21 said: Yeah kickback getting worse! He only left boys club around this time last year, hes worked really hard to be where he is as he was overlooked at various pro youth clubs for a long time. His goalscoring record was something like 170/180 in 105 games. As was a local article about his rise. Couple lads in my tea friends with him and off the pitch he keeps self to self. Tends to avoid parties until silly o clock etc. for example Good post. He was actually recommended to Hearts by a fife based scout 2-3 years ago while playing for glenrothes strollers... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Governor Tarkin Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 55 minutes ago, Absolute Scenes said: I totally forgot this one ☹️ See, even I’m not full PHM status 😭😭 These things take time, 'Scenes. Don't beat yourself up about it. 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iamborg Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 1 hour ago, Governor Tarkin said: The only test PHM need to worry about is "Does he have a Celticy sounding name?". Another "Dave" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PB21 Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 1 hour ago, The_razors_edge said: Good post. He was actually recommended to Hearts by a fife based scout 2-3 years ago while playing for glenrothes strollers... Yes - he didn’t seem to get the recognition or the opportunities considering what he was doing for strollers. As his stats were very impressive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 2 hours ago, Absolute Scenes said: does he pass the "supporters" test? : - will he score with his first touch inside 5 minutes of his debut? - will he work really hard, but also not work too hard, in case he falls into the "headless chicken" category, but still work hard and not be chicken hearted? - will he respond with utmost confidence when he misplaces his first pass and his family is assaulted by the Tynecastle loyal? - will he happy to be personally attacked on all social media platforms and be expected to take personal abuse as "part of the job" because footballers are paid enough to accept abuse? If he answers "no" to any of these crucial statements, then its an absolutely horrendous piece of wage thieving business and i'll personally drive him to the airport myself, help pack his bags and then demand Anne Budge leaves, all the while protesting outside the stadium with my 4 other protestors for Luveen to go. You missed out, if he dares to get injured...…. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Absolute Scenes Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 1 hour ago, Smith's right boot said: You missed out, if he dares to get injured...…. Another glaring obvious one, I'm losing it here! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnthomas Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 5 hours ago, Absolute Scenes said: does he pass the "supporters" test? : - will he score with his first touch inside 5 minutes of his debut? - will he work really hard, but also not work too hard, in case he falls into the "headless chicken" category, but still work hard and not be chicken hearted? - will he respond with utmost confidence when he misplaces his first pass and his family is assaulted by the Tynecastle loyal? - will he happy to be personally attacked on all social media platforms and be expected to take personal abuse as "part of the job" because footballers are paid enough to accept abuse? If he answers "no" to any of these crucial statements, then its an absolutely horrendous piece of wage thieving business and i'll personally drive him to the airport myself, help pack his bags and then demand Anne Budge leaves, all the while protesting outside the stadium with my 4 other protestors for Luveen to go. Perfect post except Kirkcaldy doesn't have an airport Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamstomorrow Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 5 hours ago, Absolute Scenes said: does he pass the "supporters" test? : - will he score with his first touch inside 5 minutes of his debut? - will he work really hard, but also not work too hard, in case he falls into the "headless chicken" category, but still work hard and not be chicken hearted? - will he respond with utmost confidence when he misplaces his first pass and his family is assaulted by the Tynecastle loyal? - will he happy to be personally attacked on all social media platforms and be expected to take personal abuse as "part of the job" because footballers are paid enough to accept abuse? If he answers "no" to any of these crucial statements, then its an absolutely horrendous piece of wage thieving business and i'll personally drive him to the airport myself, help pack his bags and then demand Anne Budge leaves, all the while protesting outside the stadium with my 4 other protestors for Luveen to go. Sadly, this sums things up perfectly! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corryjambo Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 43 minutes ago, johnthomas said: Perfect post except Kirkcaldy doesn't have an airport Could take him to Glenrothes International Airport.😊😊 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Lazar Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 (edited) Sad times when the only decent news is us looking at some guy from raith rovers who may or may not make the 1st team in 5 years time. I hope to feck Craig hasn't got another 5 year plan. Edited October 17, 2019 by Robert Lazar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NB GIN Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 6 hours ago, We_are_the_Hearts said: We ruin strikers. Stay away son! Have to say yes we do Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leveins Battalion Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 Hes not a striker,I've seen Kieron on a few occasions,hes a left winger who's pretty tall and skillfull,looks much older than 17.He came through the Fife elite academy and by all accounts is highly rated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMJ_1874 Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 7 hours ago, Salad Fingers said: Says he's an attacker. But I'm sure we could beat that out of him. So was Fred West! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ToqueJambo Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 8 hours ago, Robert Lazar said: Sad times when the only decent news is us looking at some guy from raith rovers who may or may not make the 1st team in 5 years time. I hope to feck Craig hasn't got another 5 year plan. Aye because of all the teams in the Premiership, or any league in Scotland, we have one of the worst* records of playing teenagers in the first team. *We have one of, if not the, best records of playing teenagers in the first team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PB21 Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 9 hours ago, Leveins Battalion said: Hes not a striker,I've seen Kieron on a few occasions,hes a left winger who's pretty tall and skillfull,looks much older than 17.He came through the Fife elite academy and by all accounts is highly rated. Played striker all his days at boys club level, which he only left October 2018. was only at fife elite academy for a few months really until he could sign for Raith. Raith have used him as a winger but he’s always been brought up as out and out striker hence his goal scoring at boys club of 170 or so in 105 appearances Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skacelsid Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 We should always be on the look out for potential no matter what level. He is a regular, works hard up and down, physically developed, eye for a goal, left sided and plays off the main striker and wide. Rovers fans love his hard work ethic. By all accounts of good character. Seen him a couple of times, he will be snapped up soon. Get him signed and leave him at Rovers at least for the rest of the season, a low risk signing at the moment. Spotting talent and potential seems to be a lost art in these days of agents, statistics, data and youtube. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Absolute Scenes Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 13 hours ago, johnthomas said: Perfect post except Kirkcaldy doesn't have an airport I can throw pretty far... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBigO Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 12 hours ago, Robert Lazar said: Sad times when the only decent news is us looking at some guy from raith rovers who may or may not make the 1st team in 5 years time. I hope to feck Craig hasn't got another 5 year plan. Erm, we signed 2 established internatiolists, plus Jamie Walker, Meshino, Halkett, all of whom will be internationals if they get a good run. Some guy from Raith is a different type of signing and one we should definitely be looking at. We're able to make differing levels of signings. And don't pretend we dont. Should Spurs not have signed Dele? This type of scouting is the Scottish equivalent. "Ffs the youth team only ever seem to sign kids. Budge oot!" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brux Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 19 hours ago, Salad Fingers said: Says he's an attacker. But I'm sure we could beat that out of him. 19 hours ago, j1964m said: If he is injured a lot will fit in perfectly 19 hours ago, We_are_the_Hearts said: We ruin strikers. Stay away son! Do you guys actually support Hearts, or just come on here to put them down? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Салатные палочки Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 13 minutes ago, brux said: Do you guys actually support Hearts, or just come on here to put them down? Can't we do both? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brux Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 47 minutes ago, Salad Fingers said: Can't we do both? Constructivly I'd say yes, however very little on here falls into that category recently Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnB Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 2 hours ago, Absolute Scenes said: I can throw pretty far... With or without a towel? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Findlay Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 With John McGlynn the Raith manager I would suggest hes recommended him to Hearts and Hearts to him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All roads lead to Gorgie Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 Sounds like the lad has a lot of potential and he might well prove to be a good signing for the future but this type of speculation is what we hate as supporters when any of our youngsters are linked in the press with the ugly sisters. I would rather if we just signed players like this in the windows with no press speculation whatsoever! Not saying we have leaked this so not having a go at the club by any means! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Restonbabe Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 Get him signed. And back out on loan to raith Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zico Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 On 17/10/2019 at 13:44, Absolute Scenes said: does he pass the "supporters" test? : - will he score with his first touch inside 5 minutes of his debut? - will he work really hard, but also not work too hard, in case he falls into the "headless chicken" category, but still work hard and not be chicken hearted? - will he respond with utmost confidence when he misplaces his first pass and his family is assaulted by the Tynecastle loyal? - will he happy to be personally attacked on all social media platforms and be expected to take personal abuse as "part of the job" because footballers are paid enough to accept abuse? If he answers "no" to any of these crucial statements, then its an absolutely horrendous piece of wage thieving business and i'll personally drive him to the airport myself, help pack his bags and then demand Anne Budge leaves, all the while protesting outside the stadium with my 4 other protestors for Luveen to go. Much better than the hilarious ‘hearts are shite lol’ bantz. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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