The Brow Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 Look at that defence. Robertson, Mulgrew, Devlin and Palmer with Marshall behind. You'd be lucky to win a ****ing league one game with that. We have **** all defensive options and our best keeper retired from international duty. Still laughing at the boys who wanted Strachan out. Idiots. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FruitJuice Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 27 minutes ago, All roads lead to Gorgie said: Except make sure Glasgow remains the 'home' of Scottish football. That's all that matters... Our game seems to exist only for the benefit of that city. From the refs coming from there and the surrounding areas, hampden, the erse cheeks and media, it all revolves around that provincial shitehole... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadj Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 We are all devastated and gutted and they are a top top side , Devlin and Mulgrew Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fozzyonthefence Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 5 minutes ago, The Brow said: Look at that defence. Robertson, Mulgrew, Devlin and Palmer with Marshall behind. You'd be lucky to win a ****ing league one game with that. We have **** all defensive options and our best keeper retired from international duty. Still laughing at the boys who wanted Strachan out. Idiots. You think a world class left back and Marshall would struggle in league one?! Marshall has been decent for Scotland and stopped it being a cricket score at Hampden against Russia - not seen the goals tonight so no idea if at fault but he’s the least of our worries. Mulgrew shouldn’t still be playing and I’ve no idea what Devlin and Palmer are like to be honest. Up front is our biggest problem though, so few options and Burke playing there tonight says it all - he’s absolute shite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spellczech Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 9 minutes ago, Fozzyonthefence said: You think a world class left back and Marshall would struggle in league one?! Marshall has been decent for Scotland and stopped it being a cricket score at Hampden against Russia - not seen the goals tonight so no idea if at fault but he’s the least of our worries. Mulgrew shouldn’t still be playing and I’ve no idea what Devlin and Palmer are like to be honest. Up front is our biggest problem though, so few options and Burke playing there tonight says it all - he’s absolute shite. Devlin was a strange choice - torn to pieces at Ibrox by Rangers and then benched...perfect time to give him his international debut! Surely the Motherwell guy Gallagher was a better option? Sometimes I just don't understand football managers. It is like they are trying to sabotage their team's chances to make a point. My personal bugbear is playing players out of position like they are all likely to do a Paul Hartley... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tokyowalnut Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 There has been no upturn in results, or more importantly, performances since Clarke came in. We have a good amount of players playing at a good level, but we cant forge a team together. I hate the SFA as much as the next person, but wanting Scotland to lose at anything makes zero sense to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manaliveits105 Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 30 minutes ago, FruitJuice said: Our game seems to exist only for the benefit of that city. From the refs coming from there and the surrounding areas, hampden, the erse cheeks and media, it all revolves around that provincial shitehole... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Rob Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 Scotland seem to have lost the plot completely. I honestly don’t understand it. We don’t have the best players in the world, but we should be better than this. Northern Ireland are able to out together a decent side, and their resources are a fraction of ours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maroon Sailor Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 The rot started after Italia 90 and nearly 30 years later we are at ground zero with the National team. It's been bad but nothing on this scale. Can't go any lower. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FruitJuice Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 2 minutes ago, Maroon Sailor said: The rot started after Italia 90 and nearly 30 years later we are at ground zero with the National team. It's been bad but nothing on this scale. Can't go any lower. We have a bigger player pool than Wales and northern Ireland and we still cant put a team together as good as theirs. We are now seen as a Malta or a Cyprus. There is a complete flatness to our whole game just now. There is nothing to get excited about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMBO747 Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 1 hour ago, tokyowalnut said: Out of everyone why pick on Palmer? Hardly our worst player tonight. Hardly our best either, we can do better than him at right back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMBO747 Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 1 hour ago, merrymac said: Its Liam Cooper according to Provan Provan is a proven fud Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fozzyonthefence Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 13 minutes ago, FruitJuice said: We have a bigger player pool than Wales and northern Ireland and we still cant put a team together as good as theirs. We are now seen as a Malta or a Cyprus. There is a complete flatness to our whole game just now. There is nothing to get excited about. Take out Wales and N Ireland and replace with Livingston, Motherwell, Killie, etc and you could be talking about Hearts there! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Brow Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 1 hour ago, Fozzyonthefence said: You think a world class left back and Marshall would struggle in league one?! Marshall has been decent for Scotland and stopped it being a cricket score at Hampden against Russia - not seen the goals tonight so no idea if at fault but he’s the least of our worries. Mulgrew shouldn’t still be playing and I’ve no idea what Devlin and Palmer are like to be honest. Up front is our biggest problem though, so few options and Burke playing there tonight says it all - he’s absolute shite. Fairly sure I was pointing out the defence as a unit...... You wont win many football matches with such an awful defence. Based on Scotland performances alone, Robertson is utterly average when not playing with world class players, unfortunately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemclaren Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 3 hours ago, Jeff said: Russia are absolutely bang average as well but you know the tartan army will come out of this saying 'Aye, but they're a gid team like' If there’s apathy in the Hearts support then Scotland are taking it to the next level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Notts1874 Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 3 hours ago, rick witter said: Scotland and Hearts are much the same these days an absolute shambles. It’s not the managers in Scotland’s case though. It’s the fact the players are absolute dross. You look at what the likes of Northern Ireland and Wales can achieve when you are well organised and all playing with 100% effort. Scotland don’t have that. What an utter *****😂😂😂😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
132goals1958 Posted October 10, 2019 Author Share Posted October 10, 2019 Sums up where we are when the media are touting Lyndon Dykes to be recognised before Australia step in. No disrespect to the guy but an encouraging start to his Livingston career half a dozen games in is hardly a fast track to the International set up. Amazing what a goal against Celtic does but it looks as if we are going back to square one. Depressingly I think we are at the lowest ebb in a long long time. Now over 20 years since we qualified for a major tournament and entry via the back door will no doubt be acclaimed by the powers that be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruyff Turn Posted October 11, 2019 Share Posted October 11, 2019 Scotland were playing tonight? I just seen this, 4-0. ****ing hell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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shaun.lawson Posted October 11, 2019 Share Posted October 11, 2019 6 hours ago, Maroon Sailor said: The rot started after Italia 90 The good old days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bull's-eye Posted October 11, 2019 Share Posted October 11, 2019 8 hours ago, rick witter said: Scotland and Hearts are much the same these days an absolute shambles. It’s not the managers in Scotland’s case though. It’s the fact the players are absolute dross. You look at what the likes of Northern Ireland and Wales can achieve when you are well organised and all playing with 100% effort. Scotland don’t have that. Nearly a lightbulb moment there for rick. Phew, it blew. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Internet Posted October 11, 2019 Share Posted October 11, 2019 Mind when folk were raging at Strachan for daring not to call up Oliver Burke. Those were the days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemclaren Posted October 11, 2019 Share Posted October 11, 2019 6 hours ago, shaun.lawson said: The good old days. I had forgotten that Billy Connelly used to be funny. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo647 Posted October 11, 2019 Share Posted October 11, 2019 12 hours ago, Maroon Sailor said: The rot started after Italia 90 and nearly 30 years later we are at ground zero with the National team. It's been bad but nothing on this scale. Can't go any lower. In my opinion one of the real problems with the SFA and those in charge, they genuinely believe they know what they are doing, there is nothing wrong with there methods and they are not willing to change or compromise there methods or inbred beliefs Until those in charge admit they have been doing it wrong, then I’m afraid things will only continue to get worse As long as we have an Old Firm, and the jobs for the boys committee are looked after then in there eyes everything’s fine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted October 11, 2019 Share Posted October 11, 2019 Re above including Italia 90 I think a complacency set in after we qualified for Euro 92. So many qualifications achieved. Even after failing to qualify for USA 94 which was bad we got back on with Euro 96 and France 98. Maybe that has never been shifted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tasavallan Posted October 11, 2019 Share Posted October 11, 2019 4 hours ago, Jambo647 said: In my opinion one of the real problems with the SFA and those in charge, they genuinely believe they know what they are doing, there is nothing wrong with there methods and they are not willing to change or compromise there methods or inbred beliefs Until those in charge admit they have been doing it wrong, then I’m afraid things will only continue to get worse As long as we have an Old Firm, and the jobs for the boys committee are looked after then in there eyes everything’s fine Jobs for the boys. I am sure they sit in the Hampden break-out area on the morning after an international and blame everybody for a defeat excepts themselves. Personally, if we are going to get beat, then we get beat fielding a team of promising home based players rather than over rated elder statesmen from the lower echelons of the English Football league with dubious birth credentials.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted October 11, 2019 Share Posted October 11, 2019 More bad news. Iceland look like being our Nations League semi final opponents. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaun.lawson Posted October 11, 2019 Share Posted October 11, 2019 11 hours ago, Mikey1874 said: Re above including Italia 90 I think a complacency set in after we qualified for Euro 92. I think there's something in that. But really, if we consider 1978 the first bleak turning point - because it traumatised Scotland into not playing attacking football and the public into being scared to get truly excited about the team - the second was Portugal 5-0 Scotland, 1993. I was astonished at that result. We'd all grown so used to Scotland over-achieving in qualifying for so so long. I'm sure Strachan said afterwards that completely fundamental change was needed across the board. And the third? The Morocco game. Afterwards, plenty of people suggested Scotland wouldn't qualify for anything again for a generation. Who'd have known they were still somehow underestimating things? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted October 11, 2019 Share Posted October 11, 2019 12 hours ago, davemclaren said: I had forgotten that Billy Connelly used to be funny. Ooft.... there's a joke there 🙄 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maroon Sailor Posted October 12, 2019 Share Posted October 12, 2019 13 hours ago, Mikey1874 said: More bad news. Iceland look like being our Nations League semi final opponents. Don't think Scotland have lost to Iceland. Mind you I wouldn't take this Scotland team to beat Farmfoods Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Lager Posted October 12, 2019 Share Posted October 12, 2019 On 10/10/2019 at 21:08, Nelly Terraces said: Good to hear the Glasgow FA 11 getting another doing. Hope it ends a fecking hammering. Absolutely weegie *******s Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheOak88 Posted October 12, 2019 Share Posted October 12, 2019 On 10/10/2019 at 22:05, The Brow said: Look at that defence. Robertson, Mulgrew, Devlin and Palmer with Marshall behind. You'd be lucky to win a ****ing league one game with that. We have **** all defensive options and our best keeper retired from international duty. Still laughing at the boys who wanted Strachan out. Idiots. It is terrible that defence. Striking options are not much better. With regard to Strachan though. His time was up. He got a good 3/4 years in the job and could not get us to a major tournament - despite the fact that Euro 2016 became the easiest tournament to qualify for due to them extending it from 16 to 24 teams. If we are being honest, he didn’t even get us close to qualifying for a tournament. Combine that with the arrogance and distain he showed towards the fans - the game was up for him. It was time to move on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jake Posted October 12, 2019 Share Posted October 12, 2019 On 10/10/2019 at 22:05, The Brow said: Look at that defence. Robertson, Mulgrew, Devlin and Palmer with Marshall behind. You'd be lucky to win a ****ing league one game with that. We have **** all defensive options and our best keeper retired from international duty. Still laughing at the boys who wanted Strachan out. Idiots. He failed to qualify for 2 tournaments and his lack of using the thumb was criminal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milky_26 Posted October 12, 2019 Share Posted October 12, 2019 56 minutes ago, jake said: He failed to qualify for 2 tournaments and his lack of using the thumb was criminal. strachan only started setting the team up correctly when we were effectively out of qualifying Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fort Vallance Posted October 12, 2019 Share Posted October 12, 2019 3 hours ago, Maroon Sailor said: Don't think Scotland have lost to Iceland. Mind you I wouldn't take this Scotland team to beat Farmfoods Liked that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XXX Posted October 12, 2019 Share Posted October 12, 2019 Former Hearts stopper Jon McLaughlin will replace David Marshall in goal against San Marino. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Montgomery Brewster Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 A record low crowd on the cards I have been saying for 30 years - Blazers Out ! Starting with the Tache. Then get that erse Doncaster away from the Sfa as well. He does an awful job at the SPFL and gets another trough to sup at. Truly corrupt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TurboT Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 (edited) On 11/10/2019 at 00:05, The Brow said: Look at that defence. Robertson, Mulgrew, Devlin and Palmer with Marshall behind. You'd be lucky to win a ****ing league one game with that. We have **** all defensive options and our best keeper retired from international duty. Still laughing at the boys who wanted Strachan out. Idiots. Strachan stayed a campaign too long. Made a complete mess of qualifying for euro 2016 and then results only improved when it was almost impossible for us to qualify for the World Cup. Treated the fans with utter contempt and single handedly managed to reduce the Scotland Supporters Club from over 30k to under 20k in less than two years. The idiots are the SFA for not emptying Strachan sooner. Edited October 13, 2019 by TurboT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maroonsgotop Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 16 minutes ago, Montgomery Brewster said: A record low crowd on the cards I have been saying for 30 years - Blazers Out ! Starting with the Tache. Then get that erse Doncaster away from the Sfa as well. He does an awful job at the SPFL and gets another trough to sup at. Truly corrupt. The lowest crowd I remember was in 1969 when we only got just under 7,500 against Northern Ireland in the pouring rain. Hardly anyone went through the Excursion bus(s) from the Bus Station. I must have been mad going to that one. From memory George Best tore us apart but we somehow managed to get a draw. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Montgomery Brewster Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 Just now, maroonsgotop said: The lowest crowd I remember was in 1969 when we only got just under 7,500 against Northern Ireland in the pouring rain. Hardly anyone went through the Excursion bus(s) from the Bus Station. I must have been mad going to that one. From memory George Best tore us apart but we somehow managed to get a draw. This is a record for euro qualifiers. That would have been a home international ? either way grim times Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indianajones Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 29 minutes ago, Montgomery Brewster said: A record low crowd on the cards I have been saying for 30 years - Blazers Out ! Starting with the Tache. Then get that erse Doncaster away from the Sfa as well. He does an awful job at the SPFL and gets another trough to sup at. Truly corrupt. Get them all far far away and we might just start seeing an improvement in Scotland. I've never been to a Scotland game in my life. Just cannot be arsed with it at all. Its utter pish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maroonsgotop Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 5 minutes ago, Montgomery Brewster said: This is a record for euro qualifiers. That would have been a home international ? either way grim times it was a Home International but some reports are saying it's gonna be our lowest ever attendance for a competitive match. Also in the NI game Georgie Best was playing and we had just beaten Wales away 5-3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norrie1952 Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 22 minutes ago, maroonsgotop said: The lowest crowd I remember was in 1969 when we only got just under 7,500 against Northern Ireland in the pouring rain. Hardly anyone went through the Excursion bus(s) from the Bus Station. I must have been mad going to that one. From memory George Best tore us apart but we somehow managed to get a draw. In contrast I was at the game against England at Hampden in 1970.I checked the stats and the crowd was 137,438.Everyone knew the players from both sides.It was a great day out for an 18 year old and his mates.Saying that Hampden was a death trap in those days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maroondevo52 Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 My nephews band are playing a couple of songs at halftime 😀 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maroon Sailor Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 14 minutes ago, maroondevo52 said: My nephews band are playing a couple of songs at halftime 😀 Probably play in front of a bigger crowd if he was on the Ross Band Stand Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maroondevo52 Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Maroon Sailor said: Probably play in front of a bigger crowd if he was on the Ross Band Stand Telt them to take their boots. They played there with Bastille and The Vaccines last year. Edited October 13, 2019 by maroondevo52 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maroonsgotop Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 1 hour ago, norrie1952 said: In contrast I was at the game against England at Hampden in 1970.I checked the stats and the crowd was 137,438.Everyone knew the players from both sides.It was a great day out for an 18 year old and his mates.Saying that Hampden was a death trap in those days. yep was also at that game and wore my Hearts scarf in support of Cruickie who was in goal and got a clean sheet. Got a few dirty looks and comments but nothing worse Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 On 11/10/2019 at 21:44, Mikey1874 said: More bad news. Iceland look like being our Nations League semi final opponents. Capital meats would take us down. Or are they "the" capital meats now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 So could have played it at McDermid Park. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwidoug Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 Meanwhile, Scotland booted out of the rugby world cup by a 2nd tier nation. Seriously have things ever been worse. Hearts, Scotland and scottish rugby desperately need coaches who know that they're doing. Everything miserable at present. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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