tartofmidlothian Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 That was a shit result, but Smith and especially Berra and Dikamona all had good games. Dikamona a rock aside from the missed header, Berra looking more like his old self. Our problems are through the rest of the team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gashauskis9 Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 Midfield was the problem today. We were 2 men down in the first half with Irving and Damour and a man down with Bozanic 2nd half. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walter Bishop Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 15 minutes ago, tartofmidlothian said: That was a shit result, but Smith and especially Berra and Dikamona all had good games. Dikamona a rock aside from the missed header, Berra looking more like his old self. Our problems are through the rest of the team. Jesus, Easily pleased. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamhammer Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 Jake Mulraney is not a wing back. Could someone tell the manager please. Smith is quality, Jambo Soldier quality, Berra would run through a brick wall for us, even when he’s struggling but that non header for their goal cost us the game. As good as the defence is we keep gifting teams goals Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bistokid Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 ****ing hell. We played 5 again and it was abysmal going forward. Berra didn't sell a goal but his distribution was still terrible. Dik was our best attacking threat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amadjambo Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 When we play a back 3 we create zilch in attack. Today was no different. Appalling team selection, tactics, and performance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
savage Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 Are you for real. Those tactics and line up was awful. We played 3 at the back against 1 half fit striker. It should have been a back 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NaturalOrder74 Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 Dikanona was good today genuinely think he’s pulled his weight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TDF01 Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 3 minutes ago, amadjambo said: When we play a back 3 we create zilch in attack. Today was no different. Appalling team selection, tactics, and performance. Our 3-7-0 formation 😳 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilnunb Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 Tested once. Failed miserably. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToadKiller Dog Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 More to do with killie being poor up front rather than our defence doing anything special. Once we gave them the lead they didn't really need to attack us ,they cruised to 3 points Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott herbertson Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 We had two great chances to score but no strikers and nobody in midfield who could break through like Naismith and Walker could have done. horrible to watch predictable result Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SomethingAboutObua Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 It’s an absolute embarrassment Dikamona is our most aggressive dribbler. Don’t get me wrong, Meshino was trying but a lot of what he’s doing is on the edge of the box whereas Dikamona shifted us about 1/3 up the pitch when he got the ball. Shame he missed that sitter but our best chance in 90 minutes shouldn’t be one corner to a CB. Somewhat worrying our best player again is a right back, Smith is excellent but I want our best player to be an attacker. Berra was better today, needs to be confident in receiving the ball. Why are we playing Mulraney at full back? Why was he left to mark the back post on his own for that goal? There’s a lot of questions about today’s set up but our back 3 as individuals did well, but as a team that formation is clearly shite for who we have in the ranks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinmaroon Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 First half with Meshino up front was a non-starter. He needs to receive the ball when he's not surrounded by 4 defenders because there's no one else up there with him. Moved wide late on and got the space and looked much more likely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Buck Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 Funny we looked more solid without Halkett today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gashauskis9 Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 14 minutes ago, Uncle Buck said: Funny we looked more solid without Halkett today. But equally there was a brick wall between defence and midfield because we couldn’t bring the ball out of defence quick enough. Defensively, I don’t think Halkett is anywhere near as steady as most on here think, but he is a good attacking threat and good at moving into the space (much like Smith started doing 2nd half when we went to a back 4). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heartsfc_fan Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 Dikamona was decent considering he hardly plays. The back 4 we had in the second half was fine. This going forward please. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevenNaismith Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 Playing that system, the wings back need to be strong at the back post. Mulraney is hopeless as a wing back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoleto Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 1 hour ago, Jamhammer said: Jake Mulraney is not a wing back. Could someone tell the manager please. Smith is quality, Jambo Soldier quality, Berra would run through a brick wall for us, even when he’s struggling but that non header for their goal cost us the game. As good as the defence is we keep gifting teams goals The non header was from Mulraney. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoleto Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 1 hour ago, tartofmidlothian said: That was a shit result, but Smith and especially Berra and Dikamona all had good games. Dikamona a rock aside from the missed header, Berra looking more like his old self. Our problems are through the rest of the team. I thought Dikamona had an excellent game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sagan Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 The Defence. The defence. Craig levein style The defence isn't the problem . If you score more than you concede you win. End of Sign some feckin goal scorers. 2 up front every fecking game. Jobs a good in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoleto Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 44 minutes ago, SomethingAboutObua said: It’s an absolute embarrassment Dikamona is our most aggressive dribbler. Don’t get me wrong, Meshino was trying but a lot of what he’s doing is on the edge of the box whereas Dikamona shifted us about 1/3 up the pitch when he got the ball. Shame he missed that sitter but our best chance in 90 minutes shouldn’t be one corner to a CB. Somewhat worrying our best player again is a right back, Smith is excellent but I want our best player to be an attacker. Berra was better today, needs to be confident in receiving the ball. Why are we playing Mulraney at full back? Why was he left to mark the back post on his own for that goal? There’s a lot of questions about today’s set up but our back 3 as individuals did well, but as a team that formation is clearly shite for who we have in the ranks. Mulraney was left to mark the back post because that was his man. No excuses, he should have done much better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo 4 Ever Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 1 hour ago, Jamhammer said: Jake Mulraney is not a wing back. Could someone tell the manager please. Smith is quality, Jambo Soldier quality, Berra would run through a brick wall for us, even when he’s struggling but that non header for their goal cost us the game. As good as the defence is we keep gifting teams goals What planet are you on? all our players are poo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamhammer Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 20 minutes ago, Natural Orders said: What planet are you on? all our players are poo Bearing in mind you, apparently can’t see an old woman standing on the pitch I’ll treat your opinion with the contempt it deserves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamhammer Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 30 minutes ago, Spoleto said: The non header was from Mulraney. That was my point Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomaso Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 1 hour ago, amadjambo said: When we play a back 3 we create zilch in attack. Today was no different. Appalling team selection, tactics, and performance. THIS!!! The obsession to play 3 at the back is feckin killing us!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoleto Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 6 minutes ago, Jamhammer said: That was my point Apologies, I didn't read it that way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leginten Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 2 hours ago, tartofmidlothian said: That was a shit result, but Smith and especially Berra and Dikamona all had good games. Dikamona a rock aside from the missed header, Berra looking more like his old self. Our problems are through the rest of the team. Don’t disagree that those three played quite well. But we were lucky Killie didn’t take their chances in the first half. We were in big trouble from balls across our box on several occasions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amadjambo Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 17 minutes ago, Cruickshank for Scotland said: THIS!!! The obsession to play 3 at the back is feckin killing us!! As soon as I see us line up with a back 3 my heart sinks. It is an abomination of a formation that clearly doesn’t suit our squad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hearts attack Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 1 hour ago, Uncle Buck said: Funny we looked more solid without Halkett today. I believe Halkett is a good player but I agree he is not the best defensively and his judgement is sometimes poor. He needs to listen and learn from Berra and Smith. Souttar benefited from Berra's defensive qualities and had improved considerably prior to his injury. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo 4 Ever Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 23 minutes ago, Jamhammer said: Bearing in mind you, apparently can’t see an old woman standing on the pitch I’ll treat your opinion with the contempt it deserves. Um I’ve explained that so how can you possibly think we have any good players?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Panzee Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 52 minutes ago, Spoleto said: Mulraney was left to mark the back post because that was his man. No excuses, he should have done much better. Agree Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamhammer Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 6 minutes ago, Natural Orders said: Um I’ve explained that so how can you possibly think we have any good players?? Because I’ve got eyes and watch them. Smith, Dikamona, Berra, Meshino, Whelan and Hickey were all decent today. Anyway Poo? What are you 4 years old? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hectormasson Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 4 hours ago, tartofmidlothian said: That was a shit result, but Smith and especially Berra and Dikamona all had good games. Dikamona a rock aside from the missed header, Berra looking more like his old self. Our problems are through the rest of the team. Free header for burke no challenge , one of the smallest guys on the pitch, and it cost us dearly,, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Debut 4 Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 It must’ve been shite as a Hearts defender today looking up with the ball at your feet and wondering where to put it? We absolutely struggled to work the ball forward into dangerous areas or pull Kilmarnock out of position, as they did to us. Glenn Whelan must be fecked after every game having to carry his colleagues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hearts00 Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 3 hours ago, Spoleto said: Mulraney was left to mark the back post because that was his man. No excuses, he should have done much better. Completely disagree. The Killie goal was a defensive disaster. We’re playing three at the back. From a Killie throw in you effectively have a back 5. And yet despite this, no one presses the ball to prevent a cross. Secondly, with 3 CHs, how do you end up with Mulraney defending the cross not far off the middle of the box. If that is not criminal enough, could the GK have not been out to collect. Bottom line is that three at the back is a joke and has failed constantly. Leaving Mulraney to do any defending is a shocker and reflects very badly on Levein. Mulraney needs to concentrate on trying to improve his attacking game to a level where he is even worth a start in a Championship team, let alone a bottom 6 Premiership team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cocobeab Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 Our central defence are continually put under undue pressure by the rest of the team doing nothing other than playing it back to them. Berra has never been a passer of a ball but this season more than any before is being put under pressure to create something. Likewise Smith today and even big Clevid, forced into uncharacteristic forays up the park because no one in front of him offered any movement. When Whelan first arrived he was an out ball for them but Killy just like everyone else at Tynecastle this season quickly cottoned on to tracking his run and forcing him into a sideways or back pass. Easy to hammer our central defence after a defeat - just as is the fashion with Scotland. But as with Scotland I’d argue the central defence are probably doing as well as they can, the midfield and forwards continue to let them down Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambof3tornado Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 (edited) 6 hours ago, bistokid said: ****ing hell. We played 5 again and it was abysmal going forward. Berra didn't sell a goal but his distribution was still terrible. Dik was our best attacking threat. Thought berra struggled all game with brophy. Edited October 5, 2019 by Jambof3tornado Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Libertonian_II Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 16 minutes ago, hearts00 said: Completely disagree. The Killie goal was a defensive disaster. We’re playing three at the back. From a Killie throw in you effectively have a back 5. And yet despite this, no one presses the ball to prevent a cross. Secondly, with 3 CHs, how do you end up with Mulraney defending the cross not far off the middle of the box. If that is not criminal enough, could the GK have not been out to collect. Bottom line is that three at the back is a joke and has failed constantly. Leaving Mulraney to do any defending is a shocker and reflects very badly on Levein. Mulraney needs to concentrate on trying to improve his attacking game to a level where he is even worth a start in a Championship team, let alone a bottom 6 Premiership team. Yep Mulraney was hung out to dry in the first half. Berra kept moving into the centre leaving Mulraney on his own. Ultimately very bad team formation by CL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grumpyespana Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 What worries me is why do we play Hickey on the right hand side he has been outstanding playing at left back, we have to go back to playing a back four Levein should know better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All roads lead to Gorgie Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 5 minutes ago, Jambof3tornado said: Thought berra struggled all game with brophy. Don't know what that is but sounds painful Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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