LeftBack Posted September 26, 2019 Share Posted September 26, 2019 Its been a long time since i stayed up past bedtime to watch this. Panellists could be better but Gina Miller could be interesting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mysterion Posted September 27, 2019 Share Posted September 27, 2019 Watched some of it. Miller spoke well. Cleverly was being shown up at various points. Usual audience - combo of liberal minded people with Gammon types shouting closed statements about “we voted leave” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gashauskis9 Posted September 27, 2019 Share Posted September 27, 2019 I can’t watch it these days. Bruce is unbearable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gashauskis9 Posted September 27, 2019 Share Posted September 27, 2019 Just now, Mysterion said: Watched some of it. Miller spoke well. Cleverly was being shown up at various points. Usual audience - combo of liberal minded people with Gammon types shouting closed statements about “we voted leave” Bruce doesn’t do enough to hold the government to account imo. The current Tory rhetoric is “just get Brexit done at all costs”, even if that means that dead MPs are being disrespected and current MPs are receiving death threats/abuse. Here’s one for you Boris. While May was in power, you had a majority due to being buddied up with the DUP. If you had all followed the whip, we’d have left in March and “just got it done at all costs”. What you can’t do is tell us that the electorate didn’t vote for the finer details of Brexit and then hold the whole thing up because you didn’t like the initial deal put forward. If out means out, you should have voted for that deal and honoured the referendum and “will of the people” (in your own words). If your view of the typical leave voter is true, then they don’t care about backstops and trade deals, they just wanted out. That’s on your head, and the heads of the majority of your cabinet and the DUP who you paid billions of taxpayer money to vote with you. So all of this contributes to why I refuse to watch BBC Question Time and the like, because these points are not being put to the government. They’re also not being put to Mr and Mrs Angry In Stoke, despite the fact that the BBC are obsessed with going into leave voting areas and sticking microphones in their faces on a daily basis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mysterion Posted September 27, 2019 Share Posted September 27, 2019 16 minutes ago, Gashauskis9 said: I can’t watch it these days. Bruce is unbearable. She is terrible. Timmy Mallett would do a better job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Maroonblood Posted September 27, 2019 Share Posted September 27, 2019 16 minutes ago, Gashauskis9 said: Bruce doesn’t do enough to hold the government to account imo. The current Tory rhetoric is “just get Brexit done at all costs”, even if that means that dead MPs are being disrespected and current MPs are receiving death threats/abuse. Here’s one for you Boris. While May was in power, you had a majority due to being buddied up with the DUP. If you had all followed the whip, we’d have left in March and “just got it done at all costs”. What you can’t do is tell us that the electorate didn’t vote for the finer details of Brexit and then hold the whole thing up because you didn’t like the initial deal put forward. If out means out, you should have voted for that deal and honoured the referendum and “will of the people” (in your own words). If your view of the typical leave voter is true, then they don’t care about backstops and trade deals, they just wanted out. That’s on your head, and the heads of the majority of your cabinet and the DUP who you paid billions of taxpayer money to vote with you. So all of this contributes to why I refuse to watch BBC Question Time and the like, because these points are not being put to the government. They’re also not being put to Mr and Mrs Angry In Stoke, despite the fact that the BBC are obsessed with going into leave voting areas and sticking microphones in their faces on a daily basis. Excellent post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
132goals1958 Posted September 27, 2019 Share Posted September 27, 2019 50 minutes ago, Mysterion said: Watched some of it. Miller spoke well. Cleverly was being shown up at various points. Usual audience - combo of liberal minded people with Gammon types shouting closed statements about “we voted leave” I really admire Gina Miller for the courage of her convictions. Much more principled than most of the politicians which is reflected in her philanthropy in relation to small charities. Says a lot about the society we live in when she has had to get round the clock security Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted September 27, 2019 Share Posted September 27, 2019 Don't watch QT now. The days of government representatives being asked stuff and providing some kind of reasonable attempt at an answer are gone. Audiences full of dishonest, hysterical, conditioned, semi-sentient people. A total waste of time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I P Knightley Posted September 27, 2019 Share Posted September 27, 2019 1 hour ago, Mysterion said: Watched some of it. Miller spoke well. Cleverly was being shown up at various points. Usual audience - combo of liberal minded people with Gammon types shouting closed statements about “we voted leave” Some proper gammon faces last night along with a handful of cheese & tomato pizza faces. Cleverly trying to get away with lying that using the word "betray" is not the same as using "betrayal" - supporting Johnson in yet another of his lies. I felt that Bruce was crippled by wanting to appear neutral, thereby allowing the grandstanding that took place. Great post above from Gashauskis, though. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texia Posted September 27, 2019 Share Posted September 27, 2019 Used to quite like watching question time before the Brexit **** up. It's a mess now, a panel show representation of a twitter debate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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