Armageddon Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 (edited) So nationally we've had the Hillsborough lies, photos of Diana dying in a car, phone hacking of the worst possible kind, stings and set ups a plenty then all the dirt digging to sell papers. Locally we have the EEN posting stupid stories from England, copy and paste quotes from Facebook pages and football forums, plus over dramatic "*BREAKING NEWS* police car at local newsagents .... MORE TO FOLLOW" - then we have the Daily Record being controlled by a football club and using them like their own PR rag. Very recently we've had the Ben Stokes situation from a family incident in New Zealand in the 80's and now Gareth Thomas confirming a reporter turned up at his parents door after trying to blackmail him into keeping it a secret. So ... my question, what will it take to happen to before the public, or the authorities, take action and choke the industry to it's deserving death?? Edited September 18, 2019 by Armageddon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlphonseCapone Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 (edited) There are large parts of the media that are nothing more than sub-human scum. However there are also some very brilliant journalists risking their lives at times to break serious stories. They need separated out. It's really hard to legally restrict the press because it's such a cornerstone of democracy. In an ideal world, human beings wouldn't be so stupid and shit that this sort of behaviour gets rewarded. They aren't doing it for their own pleasure. Edited September 18, 2019 by AlphonseCapone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armageddon Posted September 18, 2019 Author Share Posted September 18, 2019 8 minutes ago, AlphonseCapone said: There are large parts of the media that are nothing more than sub-human scum. However there are also some very brilliant journalists risking their lives at times to break serious stories. They need separated out. It's really hard to legally restrict the press because it's such a cornerstone of democracy. In an ideal world, human beings wouldn't be so stupid and shit that this sort of behaviour gets rewarded. They aren't doing it for their own pleasure. I agree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 The Gareth Thomas case is outrageous. His private health has been forced into the public. While praised widely for sharing his HIV status and people saying it will help others, he has said he was not planning to but felt forced by whatever media outlet said they were going to. The Stokes case is less clear but his response was fair enough being concerned for the effect on his Mum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homme Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 We (the public) are the problem. We lap up the clickbait and headlines making it very, very easy for journalists these days. The essentially give us what we want. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maroonlegions Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 (edited) Mainstream media= manipulating control tool. Outwith the shitey news papers in Scotland , look at the who controls the Sun, Daily mail ect... Murdock is one slippery dude .... Look at the owners of the major newspapers in the UK and the USA..Therein is the answer... These 15 Billionaires Own America's News Media Companies; News that billionaire Peter Thiel is funding Hulk Hogan's trial against news website Gawker set the media and technology worlds on fire last week, sparking a conversation about the ultra-wealthy's role in controlling the news. While a billionaire secretly funding a lawsuit to take down a news outlet may be a new way of using money to influence the media business, billionaires have long exerted influence on the news simply by owning U.S. media outlets. List of newspapers in the United Kingdom Broadsheet and former broadsheet newspapers Edited September 18, 2019 by maroonlegions Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francis Albert Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 (edited) Add the recent Guardian leader (no less) about the death of the Camerons' son. They suffered only "privileged grief" apparently. Edited September 18, 2019 by Francis Albert Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maroonlegions Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 4 minutes ago, Francis Albert said: Add the recent Guardian leader (no less) about the death of the Camerons' son. They suffered only "privileged grief" apparently. Rupert Murdoch is one reptile though and Speirs , knew about and sanctioned the tapping a phone of a mother who lost her son, just for a story to sell the paper he was chief editor of , the vile ...News Of The World. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cade Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 Regulation backed up by long jail terms. It's not difficult. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 3 hours ago, Armageddon said: So nationally we've had the Hillsborough lies, photos of Diana dying in a car, phone hacking of the worst possible kind, stings and set ups a plenty then all the dirt digging to sell papers. Locally we have the EEN posting stupid stories from England, copy and paste quotes from Facebook pages and football forums, plus over dramatic "*BREAKING NEWS* police car at local newsagents .... MORE TO FOLLOW" - then we have the Daily Record being controlled by a football club and using them like their own PR rag. Very recently we've had the Ben Stokes situation from a family incident in New Zealand in the 80's and now Gareth Thomas confirming a reporter turned up at his parents door after trying to blackmail him into keeping it a secret. So ... my question, what will it take to happen to before the public, or the authorities, take action and choke the industry to it's deserving death?? I get what you're saying, but... If it wasn't for good investigative journalism. We'd have no idea about the likes of the MPs expenses swindle, the Yewtree scum, fake WMD etc...etc... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 Just to confirm it was The Sun / The Sun on Sunday involved in revealing Gareth Thomas has HIV. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sexton Hardcastle Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 Imagine being employed by the sun. You must have zero morals and cares. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roxy Hearts Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 6 hours ago, AlphonseCapone said: There are large parts of the media that are nothing more than sub-human scum. However there are also some very brilliant journalists risking their lives at times to break serious stories. They need separated out. It's really hard to legally restrict the press because it's such a cornerstone of democracy. In an ideal world, human beings wouldn't be so stupid and shit that this sort of behaviour gets rewarded. They aren't doing it for their own pleasure. It's not a cornerstone of democracy in the UK. Mostly all Brit propaganda with cowardly journalists. How some of them can write some of the crap they do is beyond belief and even more incredulous, is some believe it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusk_Till_Dawn Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 6 hours ago, Mikey1874 said: The Gareth Thomas case is outrageous. His private health has been forced into the public. While praised widely for sharing his HIV status and people saying it will help others, he has said he was not planning to but felt forced by whatever media outlet said they were going to. The Stokes case is less clear but his response was fair enough being concerned for the effect on his Mum. I can’t see any justification for the Stokes story. There no legitimate public interest there. Although given what Stokes was involved in in Bristol, he shouldn’t be painted as squeaky clean Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Z Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 3 hours ago, Cade said: Regulation backed up by long jail terms. It's not difficult. I just wrote an entire dissertation on this idea . . . great idea in theory. In practice, you get people like Donald Trump and Boris Johnson and Vladimir Putin getting to decide what constitutes a violation of the regulations. It never ends well, least of all for political outsiders and already marginalised groups of people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tazio Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 And now the Record and Michael Mols. Intruding on his grief for headlines. Filth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cade Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 1 hour ago, Justin Z said: I just wrote an entire dissertation on this idea . . . great idea in theory. In practice, you get people like Donald Trump and Boris Johnson and Vladimir Putin getting to decide what constitutes a violation of the regulations. It never ends well, least of all for political outsiders and already marginalised groups of people. Not if you have a country where the rule of law is supreme and where the Judiciary is independent (which it is not in the USA, as much as they pretend it is) Executive (Government) and Legislature (Parliament) make the laws, then the Judiciary (Courts) interprets and enforces them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 1 hour ago, Dusk_Till_Dawn said: I can’t see any justification for the Stokes story. There no legitimate public interest there. Although given what Stokes was involved in in Bristol, he shouldn’t be painted as squeaky clean Not Guilty and praised by the people he defended. Going out late yes. Not sure how associating that with his Mum's children being killed is meant to say anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DETTY29 Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 4 hours ago, Cade said: Regulation backed up by long jail terms. It's not difficult. Then they cry about press freedom. But I agree it's a disgrace. Many elements of the press in this country are far too free to do as thay please and very highly irresponsible But billionaires run the press who fund the political parties and country narrative. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 5 hours ago, Cade said: Regulation backed up by long jail terms. It's not difficult. It is difficult. Extreme resistance from the press for starters. Some perfectly valid and honourable and some very much less so. Freedom of the press is an important principle but the gutter press is an omnipresent parasitical presence feeding off that principle. The best thing would be a functioning, self regulating media system. Productive, responsible media forces draining the scum from the swamp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Z Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 6 hours ago, Cade said: Not if you have a country where the rule of law is supreme and where the Judiciary is independent (which it is not in the USA, as much as they pretend it is) Executive (Government) and Legislature (Parliament) make the laws, then the Judiciary (Courts) interprets and enforces them. And that is an absolutely massive presumption to make. The past couple of months in Parliament ought to have shown you--if not any of the numerous other examples throughout history--things can and do change in a flash. If you gut the underlying protections, there's nothing left when abuses inevitably occur. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 4 hours ago, Zlatanable said: no humans are sub-human scum. The Sun support Nicola Sturgeon and the SNP. The National support , no one else. You should work for The Sun, you'd be a superstar! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaun.lawson Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 11 hours ago, Sexton Hardcastle said: Imagine being employed by the sun. You must have zero morals and cares. You can either be a journalist or work for The Sun. You can't be both. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaun.lawson Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 15 hours ago, Homme said: We (the public) are the problem. We lap up the clickbait and headlines making it very, very easy for journalists these days. The essentially give us what we want. Correct. So the BBC dumbed down long ago and have been at it too now, for years. The result of all this? https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/eu-referendum-british-public-wrong-about-nearly-everything-survey-shows-a7074311.html https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/british-public-wrong-about-nearly-everything-survey-shows-8697821.html Hence not only Brexit - but most things wrong with British politics and British society. My conclusion? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusk_Till_Dawn Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 8 hours ago, Mikey1874 said: Not Guilty and praised by the people he defended. Going out late yes. Not sure how associating that with his Mum's children being killed is meant to say anything. Let’s be honest, the CPS brought the wrong charges against him. Everyone knows it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlphonseCapone Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 7 hours ago, Zlatanable said: no humans are sub-human scum. The Sun support Nicola Sturgeon and the SNP. I don't understand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruyff Turn Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 22 hours ago, Mikey1874 said: The Gareth Thomas case is outrageous. His private health has been forced into the public. While praised widely for sharing his HIV status and people saying it will help others, he has said he was not planning to but felt forced by whatever media outlet said they were going to. The Stokes case is less clear but his response was fair enough being concerned for the effect on his Mum. This. The Gareth Thomas one is sickening. The guys had a really tough time coming to terms with his sexuality. Then being brave enough to be open to the public about it and now some Journo has told his parents that he has HIV before he could tell them himself. Not only that but the public now know very private details about his life. Absolutely disgraceful. I actually feel angry for him, poor guy. If that had been a doctor, they’d be struck off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jake Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 On 18/09/2019 at 16:41, maroonlegions said: Mainstream media= manipulating control tool. Outwith the shitey news papers in Scotland , look at the who controls the Sun, Daily mail ect... Murdock is one slippery dude .... Look at the owners of the major newspapers in the UK and the USA..Therein is the answer... These 15 Billionaires Own America's News Media Companies; News that billionaire Peter Thiel is funding Hulk Hogan's trial against news website Gawker set the media and technology worlds on fire last week, sparking a conversation about the ultra-wealthy's role in controlling the news. While a billionaire secretly funding a lawsuit to take down a news outlet may be a new way of using money to influence the media business, billionaires have long exerted influence on the news simply by owning U.S. media outlets. List of newspapers in the United Kingdom Broadsheet and former broadsheet newspapers But but the fake news outlets in eastern europe out fake our MSM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chuck berrys hairline Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 People still listen to the media 🤦🏼♂️😂🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maroonlegions Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 (edited) She is one reptile of a jurno. Kuennssberg, the Tory BBC political spin doctor and liar. Tory activist and she was instrumental in the onslaught of Corbyn. she was pulled up on several occasions for either lying or spinning articles on him. She was Mays right hand press officer too. A BBC editor disastrously tried to defend reporter Laura Kuenssberg after she deliberately trolled a father who challenged UK PM Boris Johnson in hospital . The editor of the BBC’s live politics programmes, including Politics Live, has made a fool of himself trying to defend Laura Kuenssberg. Ms Kuenssberg, the BBC’s political editor, caused the father of a sick one-week-old girl to be dogpiled by supporters of Conservative prime minister Boris Johnson (yes, apparently some still exist) when she tweeted that Omar Salem was a “Labour activist”. Edited September 20, 2019 by maroonlegions Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambos are go! Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 You have to chuckle at posters on any internet messageboard attacking the impartiality of the press. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor FinnBarr Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 On 18/09/2019 at 16:57, maroonlegions said: Rupert Murdoch is one reptile though and Speirs , knew about and sanctioned the tapping a phone of a mother who lost her son, just for a story to sell the paper he was chief editor of , the vile ...News Of The World. Did you mean Piers? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cade Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 Mail on Sunday printing the home addresses of some of the legal team fighting against Boris' parliament shutdown. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tazio Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 2 hours ago, Cade said: Mail on Sunday printing the home addresses of some of the legal team fighting against Boris' parliament shutdown. Including one woman who’s already had threats made to her. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cade Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 Surely tae feck they can be prosecuted for harassment?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Thaw Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 On 18/09/2019 at 21:16, Tazio said: And now the Record and Michael Mols. Intruding on his grief for headlines. Filth. Now milking Ricksen's private life for all it's worth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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