beaver Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 16 minutes ago, Thought Police said: Anyone who thinks Boris has the best interests of UK in mind is a fool. He’s been dying on Brexit failing so he can be right. A sensationalist who has bullied his way to his position. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thought Police Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 3 minutes ago, Agentjambo said: He is right. Eventually. Only been hoping for Levein to be sacked for the last 5 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Maroonblood Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 4 minutes ago, Newton51 said: Comments already made the record https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/michael-stewart-accuses-craig-levein-20076361 He’s spot on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papa Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 Everyone is entitled to a view including Ian Murray. Anyone badmouthing Ian has a short memory. Ian along with Ann Budge and the administrator (sorry momentarily forgot his name) were the principal instruments in saving our club. Without those 3 the efforts of the rest of us wouldn’t have mattered. Ian is recognising Levein’s impact on restructuring the football department at the club which Romanov had left in tatters. He deserves credit for that. I would have him remain on the board and as Head of the Academy but with no role in the signing, selection or coaching of senior players. I am sure that Ian would also approve of this. Obviously he retains an element of sentimental appreciation of Levein’s work behind the scenes. I can’t condemn him for that and I’m sure he will come round to accept that change in the manager is necessary for the club to progress. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thought Police Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 4 minutes ago, beaver said: Okay? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sagan Posted September 16, 2019 Author Share Posted September 16, 2019 (edited) 3 minutes ago, The Real Maroonblood said: He’s spot on. Micheal Stewart has been right all along about Levein, just like Kris Boyd was right all along about Cathro, Both of them are hibby trolls though eh. Get them banned! Edited September 16, 2019 by Sagan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ToqueJambo Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Sagan said: Micheal Stewart has been right all along about Levein, just like Kris Boyd was right all along about Cathro, Everyone's right at some point. He wasn't right at the start of last season, in fact he was very quiet about Hearts. Let's not make out he's some sort of footballing oracle. Ditto Kris Boyd. Maybe if Cathro had received more encouragement and a better welcome from within the Scottish game he would have found things easier and not been put on the defensive, feeling he had something to prove, almost immediately. Edited September 16, 2019 by ToqueJambo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Maroonblood Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 2 minutes ago, Sagan said: Micheal Stewart has been right all along about Levein, just like Kris Boyd was right all along about Cathro, Both of them are hibby trolls though eh. Get them banned! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the Hearts way Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 51 minutes ago, Mysterion said: Would argue Ian Murray has got it wrong suggesting Levein should have 2 more games, if we lose the derby it's should be game over there and then. We shouldn't be letting him have the Aberdeen game too. We've been dire for far too long now. Quite simply, we need a change and some fresh ideas. HHGH 🇱🇻 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen Muddie Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Sagan said: Is there a politician you would trust? That's irrelevant. Seeing as you asked though, probably not. I see Labour as unprincipled, turncoat populists. Oh, and hypocrites too (most of them). I thought the parallel between his party and his Levein stance to be worthy of comment. If Murray was an SNP bod and his stance was to financially penalise all fans because a few behaved badly, I'd mention a perceived parallel. If he was a Tory and bemoaning the pricing at the club whilst being active in ideological austerity, I'd mention that parallel. I have a knack for finding out facts. This means I don't need to trust anyone. Edited September 16, 2019 by Stephen Muddie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walter Bishop Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 11 minutes ago, Newton51 said: Comments already made the record https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/michael-stewart-accuses-craig-levein-20076361 Once again Stewart is 100% spot on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Debut 4 Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 I only care when people speak the truth. Stewart can have his feud with Levein for the rest of his life if he wants but many things he says about performances, and the way we are run at team level, means something to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ford donald Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 26 minutes ago, Thought Police said: Anyone who thinks Michael Stewart has the best interests of Hearts in mind is a fool. He’s been dying on Levein failing so he can be right. A sensationalist who has bullied his way to his position. Always talks straight,for me.Agenda or no agenda,knows more about football than most on here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sagan Posted September 16, 2019 Author Share Posted September 16, 2019 1 minute ago, Stephen Muddie said: That's irrelevant. Seeing as you asked though, probably not. I see Labour as unprincipled, turncoat populists. Oh, and hypocrites too (most of them). I thought the parallel between his party and his Levein stance to be worthy of comment. If Murray was an SNP bod and his stance was to financially penalise all fans because a few behaved badly, I'd mention a perceived parallel. If he was a Tory and bemoaning the pricing at the club whilst being active in ideological austerity, I'd mention that parallel. I have a knack for finding out facts. This means I don't need to trust anyone. Aye, there's no point talking to me about politics, I don't bother with it, they're all liars. Sorry for bringing it up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the Hearts way Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 1 minute ago, Stephen Muddie said: That's irrelevant. Seeing as you asked though, probably not. I see Labour as unprincipled, turncoat populists. Oh, and hypocrites too (most of them). I thought the parallel between his party and his Levein stance to be worthy of comment. If Murray was an SNP bod and his stance was to financially penalise all fans because a few behaved badly, I'd mention a perceived parallel. If he was a Tory and bemoaning the pricing at the club whilst being active in ideological austerity, I'd mention that parallel. I have a knack for finding out facts. This means I don't need to trust anyone. Far too deep a post for the shite spouted on here! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Maroonblood Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 2 minutes ago, ford donald said: Always talks straight,for me.Agenda or no agenda,knows more about football than most on here. Exactly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the Hearts way Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 1 minute ago, Sagan said: Aye, there's no point talking to me about politics, I don't bother with it, they're all liars. Sorry for bringing it up. Are you a Tory or someone with a difference of opinion? Or may be simply a JT who cares? HHGH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen Muddie Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 1 minute ago, Sagan said: Aye, there's no point talking to me about politics, I don't bother with it, they're all liars. Sorry for bringing it up. Ha fair enough bud. Sometimes not sure what folk are getting at. I get now you were just making a valid point about all politicians. Wasn't sure if you were somehow defending Labour there. Anyway, disappointing soundbite from him. Glad he's not chairing FOH any more. The less politician types and the more regular straight up guys we have involved the better. The more, the worse IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prof Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 I think that all of us who are contributing to FOH should make our thoughts clear to AB and the so called FOH appointed director. There’s no need to cancel subscriptions that’s counter productive. We have to make it clear that if they don’t act now they will be binned as soon as FOH take over. E-mail the club now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coburg Hearts Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 23 minutes ago, The Real Maroonblood said: He’s full of ****. Was he full of **** when he was the spokesman for FOH when we were fighting for our existence? I thought lynch mobs were a thing of the past, but you can find them on almost every single thread. I don't agree with his politics, and I want Craig Levein out as quickly as possible, but dearie dearie me. This place is worse than the Wild West. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sagan Posted September 16, 2019 Author Share Posted September 16, 2019 2 minutes ago, the Hearts way said: Are you a Tory or someone with a difference of opinion? Or may be simply a JT who cares? HHGH What? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ford donald Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 5 minutes ago, the Hearts way said: We've been dire for far too long now. Quite simply, we need a change and some fresh ideas. HHGH 🇱🇻 Since October in the league,we have the worst record in the Spl, rank bottom,yet some want give him a couple of More games.ffs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoncurMacdonaldMercer Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 the fans rightly getting a lot of praise here especially from Tom english such was Stewart's delight at the predicament I hope levein gets the Derby and a rolling game at a time stay of execution until anything resembling the last few weeks/months occurs again seems unlikely he can turn it around but I'm happy to risk the Derby it's not like they can win their Scottish cup or anything on the back of it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boris Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 37 minutes ago, 132goals1958 said: His observations are valid but if he expressed them in the same way as Tom English and at least tried to hide his intense personal dislike for Levein then I could perhaps give him some respect. He came over as really relishing the situation we find ourselves in. Agree regards Tom English and his comments. Stewart is also correct, imo, but his previous with Levein means he can seem bitter. That said any relish is over Levein, not Hearts. Again, imo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 54 minutes ago, Sagan said: There's being a Hearts supporter and then there's being an Ian Murray. Met him a few times in different settings, boyz an erse 👍🏽 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tolcross lad Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 3 minutes ago, Papa said: Everyone is entitled to a view including Ian Murray. Anyone badmouthing Ian has a short memory. Ian along with Ann Budge and the administrator (sorry momentarily forgot his name) were the principal instruments in saving our club. Without those 3 the efforts of the rest of us wouldn’t have mattered. Ian is recognising Levein’s impact on restructuring the football department at the club which Romanov had left in tatters. He deserves credit for that. I would have him remain on the board and as Head of the Academy but with no role in the signing, selection or coaching of senior players. I am sure that Ian would also approve of this. Obviously he retains an element of sentimental appreciation of Levein’s work behind the scenes. I can’t condemn him for that and I’m sure he will come round to accept that change in the manager is necessary for the club to progress. We are now seeing the results of Leveins restructuring now .Arnott is in charge of the academy. I appreciate the work that Ian Murray did to save our club but to make a case for Levein to be given further chances at our club after his poor performance for years based on sentiment would be wrong very wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jr ewing Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 25 minutes ago, Italian Lambretta said: Ian Murrays a remainer so has no credibility whatsoever Steady. 2 weeks it is then. Something to look forward to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomaso Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 25 minutes ago, Newton51 said: Comments already made the record https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/michael-stewart-accuses-craig-levein-20076361 Regardless of your opinion of Stewart he is absolutely spot on! I now get the feeling that a Levein controls Budge! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tennant's 6's Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 1 hour ago, beaver said: He's going nowhere before ththe us weekend. If he goes then you will be wanting the coaching staff out also. Who is going to take team for the next two games at short notice and motivate. Face reality. be realistic, before hibs game he's going nowhere. Naysmith, Locke, Kirk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archie White Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 5 minutes ago, tolcross lad said: We are now seeing the results of Leveins restructuring now .Arnott is in charge of the academy. I appreciate the work that Ian Murray did to save our club but to make a case for Levein to be given further chances at our club after his poor performance for years based on sentiment would be wrong very wrong. Ian Murray's stance tonight was infuriating and probably typical of some people who matter on the board - "Let's give him the next 2 games". They just DO NOT GET IT. What difference will possibly winning the next 2 games make. It's just a case of drawing the whole thing out, not wanting to make a decision, perhaps things will turn... blah blah. It's gone to far now and he has to go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Notts1874 Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 Can somebody explain this 20 year power grab stuff? I'm all ears. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
132goals1958 Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 8 minutes ago, Boris said: Agree regards Tom English and his comments. Stewart is also correct, imo, but his previous with Levein means he can seem bitter. That said any relish is over Levein, not Hearts. Again, imo Can,t quibble with his general assessment but it so personal and vindictive that IMO he lacks grace and credibility. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Maroonblood Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 1 minute ago, Notts1874 said: Can somebody explain this 20 year power grab stuff? I'm all ears. Ear ear.😃 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomaso Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 (edited) 28 minutes ago, ToqueJambo said: Everyone's right at some point. He wasn't right at the start of last season, in fact he was very quiet about Hearts. Let's not make out he's some sort of footballing oracle. Ditto Kris Boyd. Maybe if Cathro had received more encouragement and a better welcome from within the Scottish game he would have found things easier and not been put on the defensive, feeling he had something to prove, almost immediately. Stewart was pretty quiet at the start of last season - however the fact is that Stewart was proven to be right about Levein, the start was flash in the pan and we have been on a downward spiral ever since. We have the lowest points total of any team in the SPL since October last year! He is also spot on concerning the power that Levein weals at Tynecastle - he has built himself an empire that he will not be easily removed from. As for Cathro you cannot be serious that the Scottish media were to blame for his disasterous appointment and performance??? That lies squarely at Levein’s door! Edited September 16, 2019 by Thomaso Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamboGraham Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 1 minute ago, Archie White said: Ian Murray's stance tonight was infuriating and probably typical of some people who matter on the board - "Let's give him the next 2 games". They just DO NOT GET IT. What difference will possibly winning the next 2 games make. It's just a case of drawing the whole thing out, not wanting to make a decision, perhaps things will turn... blah blah. It's gone to far now and he has to go. Potentially a lot...the club needs to start winning football matches again...in general I agree with your post but when the primary objective is to win matches I genuinely couldn’t care less who delivers them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamboSpur Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 It’s clear. Lose the next 2 games and he is gone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boris Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 1 minute ago, 132goals1958 said: Can,t quibble with his general assessment but it so personal and vindictive that IMO he lacks grace and credibility. Yes, I think that’s fair comment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusk_Till_Dawn Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 This situation is starting to raise some concerns about FOH I feel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merrymac Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 2 minutes ago, Notts1874 said: Can somebody explain this 20 year power grab stuff? I'm all ears. Not in any way in agreement,but think he is referring to his attempt to work himself into a similar position at Dun Utd, and has now achieved his aim at Hearts. Given his view of Levein's personality think he feels he will be hard to shift? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Notts1874 Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 2 minutes ago, The Real Maroonblood said: Ear ear.😃 It's the 3rd one in the middle of my forehead that gets all the looks😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
...a bit disco Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 4 minutes ago, Notts1874 said: Can somebody explain this 20 year power grab stuff? I'm all ears. A dastardly plot that started last century, eh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boris Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 1 minute ago, Zlatanable said: Just Levein? Just Hearts? Has Michael Stewart ever commented on another club like this? I don’t know tbh, but does that make what he has said any less pertinent? Plus, he is seen as, rightly or wrongly, a Hearts man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walter Bishop Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 2 minutes ago, Zlatanable said: Just Levein? Just Hearts? Has Michael Stewart ever commented on another club like this? He is a Hearts fan, hurting like the non delusional ones amongst us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hood09 Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 2 minutes ago, JamboSpur said: It’s clear. Lose the next 2 games and he is gone. And the next two, the two after that, then the season after ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomaso Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 4 minutes ago, Notts1874 said: Can somebody explain this 20 year power grab stuff? I'm all ears. He is suggesting that his ambitions to dominate a Club on the touch line and Boardroom first surfaced at DU. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walter Bishop Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 Just now, Dusk_Till_Dawn said: This situation is starting to raise some concerns about FOH I feel Of course it is. All far too cozy. They are being wined and dined every week, why would they give that up? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamboGraham Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 6 minutes ago, Notts1874 said: Can somebody explain this 20 year power grab stuff? I'm all ears. I cant work that point out either...an HMFC power grab by working for 5 different clubs and the national team in this period. And the fact that we have changed owners 3 times in the period (4 if you include administration). Stewart has the ability to make some decent points but then shows himself up with illogical comments like this... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Notts1874 Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 Just now, merrymac said: Not in any way in agreement,but think he is referring to his attempt to work himself into a similar position at Dun Utd, and has now achieved his aim at Hearts. Given his view of Levein's personality think he feels he will be hard to shift? Ah....so he's just giving his opinion based on nothing. He should have just stuck with Levein needs to go now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomaso Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 4 minutes ago, Zlatanable said: Just Levein? Just Hearts? Has Michael Stewart ever commented on another club like this? Probably not - but as he is a Hearts fan maybe that is not too surprising. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archie White Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 2 minutes ago, JamboSpur said: It’s clear. Lose the next 2 games and he is gone. Was that comment not also made before the Hamilton & Motherwell games. So we win the next 2 games... does that mean Levein stays?!! It's nuts. It will just drag on and on like a form of Brexit 2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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