CostaJambo Posted September 10, 2019 Share Posted September 10, 2019 Is he a £50m player as good as the English media make him out to be or a player with poor control and decision making outside the box who can dribble at speed and scores goals by being in the right place at the right time in a team of brilliant suppliers of chances for both club and country? Interested if people agree or disagree, maybe I am missing something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baillie07 Posted September 10, 2019 Share Posted September 10, 2019 Just as I was reading this he misses an absolute sitter, although he was offside but he should still be sticking that away! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vlad Magic Posted September 10, 2019 Share Posted September 10, 2019 I’m confused? What are we agreeing or disagreeing on? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlimOzturk Posted September 10, 2019 Share Posted September 10, 2019 Type of player who, once settled into a squad and style of play is an excellent asset. However, he needs excellent players round him who will do the hard work for him. Doubt he will ever reproduce his club form for England as he doesn't have the same understanding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fozzyonthefence Posted September 10, 2019 Share Posted September 10, 2019 He often looks like he can’t strike a ball properly but his speed and team mates, especially at Man City, tend to make him look good. Composure in front of goal still very suspect, but not quite as bad as it used to be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Last Laff Posted September 10, 2019 Share Posted September 10, 2019 Worth well more than £50m in today’s market and still young enough to improve. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackLadd Posted September 10, 2019 Share Posted September 10, 2019 He was rank rotten in Euro's in 16, has improved since then but proper defenders deal with him which is partly why Man City in the CL usually get found out and England rarely beat top tier countries. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taffin Posted September 10, 2019 Share Posted September 10, 2019 He's brilliant. You'd never get him for £50m. Maybe £150m Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1971fozzy Posted September 10, 2019 Share Posted September 10, 2019 JKB at its best here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgan Posted September 10, 2019 Share Posted September 10, 2019 14 minutes ago, Last Laff said: Worth well more than £50m in today’s market and still young enough to improve. 2 minutes ago, Taffin said: He's brilliant. You'd never get him for £50m. Maybe £150m Absolutely. Superb player, he really is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i8hibsh Posted September 10, 2019 Share Posted September 10, 2019 I'd rather have Mulraney. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackLadd Posted September 10, 2019 Share Posted September 10, 2019 44 minutes ago, Taffin said: He's brilliant. You'd never get him for £50m. Maybe £150m £150m on the McBurnie scale, sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CostaJambo Posted September 10, 2019 Author Share Posted September 10, 2019 1 hour ago, Vlad Magic said: I’m confused? What are we agreeing or disagreeing on? Whether he is as good as the English media make him out to be or not basically. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ToqueJambo Posted September 10, 2019 Share Posted September 10, 2019 2 minutes ago, CostaJambo said: Whether he is as good as the English media make him out to be or not basically. The English media, the red tops anyhow, have been very tough on Sterling, racist pricks that they are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finlay James Posted September 10, 2019 Share Posted September 10, 2019 He's an incredible player who would fit into any side in the world Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruyff Turn Posted September 10, 2019 Share Posted September 10, 2019 Sterling’s a great player. If Harry Maguire is worth 80million, Raheem Sterling’s worth treble that. 54 goals in 102 games with City in his last 3 seasons including this so far, plus probably 30-40 assists, easily. And he’s only 24. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
busby1985 Posted September 10, 2019 Share Posted September 10, 2019 In 3 years he’ll be the best player in Europe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CostaJambo Posted September 10, 2019 Author Share Posted September 10, 2019 OK, I am clearly missing something here (not for the first time). What is it about Sterling's game individually that is so good rather than his team mates making his job easy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jodami Posted September 10, 2019 Share Posted September 10, 2019 1 hour ago, Taffin said: He's brilliant. You'd never get him for £50m. Maybe £150m Is the correct answer. Just look at his astonishing goals and assists stats. When he's on he floats with the ball at speed, he is very rarely injured and he's a real team player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruyff Turn Posted September 10, 2019 Share Posted September 10, 2019 10 minutes ago, CostaJambo said: OK, I am clearly missing something here (not for the first time). What is it about Sterling's game individually that is so good rather than his team mates making his job easy? Maybe a bit of truth in that. Certainly wouldn’t look as good without David Silva, Bernardo Silva, De Bruyne and Aguero laying them on a plate for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nookie Bear Posted September 10, 2019 Share Posted September 10, 2019 2 minutes ago, Cruyff Turn said: Maybe a bit of truth in that. Certainly wouldn’t look as good without David Silva, Bernardo Silva, De Bruyne and Aguero laying them on a plate for him. Would Silva, De Bruyne or Aguero look as good without Sterling alongside them, making the runs and providing options and space? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruyff Turn Posted September 10, 2019 Share Posted September 10, 2019 3 minutes ago, Nookie Bear said: Would Silva, De Bruyne or Aguero look as good without Sterling alongside them, making the runs and providing options and space? Yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Famous 1874 Posted September 10, 2019 Share Posted September 10, 2019 Think he is absolutely quality Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaun.lawson Posted September 10, 2019 Share Posted September 10, 2019 (edited) Biggest mistake Southgate made in the whole World Cup was taking Sterling off v Croatia. He should've taken static Kane off. Even when Sterling's not playing well, he's still a nightmare for defenders because he's so ****ing fast, so they can't ignore him. We really shot ourselves in the foot by subbing him that day. Since then, he's come on leaps and bounds, and will continue to do so as long as Pep's around. But I wouldn't trust him in any one on one and he's still about half a level below the very best. Might well make that gap up in another year or two, though. Much to the chagrin of England's shame: our vile, racist beyond belief tabloid press. Edited September 10, 2019 by shaun.lawson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CostaJambo Posted September 10, 2019 Author Share Posted September 10, 2019 3 minutes ago, Nookie Bear said: Would Silva, De Bruyne or Aguero look as good without Sterling alongside them, making the runs and providing options and space? Sorry mate, I am really labouring the point here, but all I see in Sterling is someone who is coached relentlessly to sneak in at the back post and get on to a cross ball swept along the 6 yard box at pace. I don't think you need to be brilliant to do that and nor would I pay £ 50m for it (probably nearer £100m today). I accept he is great at finishing that type of chance but I don't see what else he brings to a team as I think his control and decision making are both poor so was just wondering if people agreed or maybe he is good at other things that I hadn't picked up on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudy T Posted September 10, 2019 Share Posted September 10, 2019 He’s twice the player he was for Liverpool since Pep has coached him. That’s the difference between a coach and a manager. I’d imagine Kane and Sterling are the first names on the England team sheet. Jordan Henderson on the other hand wouldn’t be guaranteed a game for Scotland utter dugshite! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nookie Bear Posted September 10, 2019 Share Posted September 10, 2019 3 minutes ago, Cruyff Turn said: Yes. Of course, and Sterling would look good without those guys, no? De Bruyne was nowhere near his current reputation when he signed for Man City, I had no idea who Bernardo Silva was tbh, but Pep built a team where 11 top players brought out the best in each other - and that includes Sterling. Easy, really (when you have a bit of cash 😁) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruyff Turn Posted September 10, 2019 Share Posted September 10, 2019 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Nookie Bear said: Of course, and Sterling would look good without those guys, no? De Bruyne was nowhere near his current reputation when he signed for Man City, I had no idea who Bernardo Silva was tbh, but Pep built a team where 11 top players brought out the best in each other - and that includes Sterling. Easy, really (when you have a bit of cash 😁) Sterling’s not as good as those guys, he could be though, he’s still young. He doesn’t possess their level of ability when it comes to passing and decision making. He still makes poor decisions when he has too much time to think. He has attributes which suit City, his pace and running with the ball, but they could replace him with others and still be as good or better. I wouldn’t say the same for the others mentioned as you’d be hard pressed to find better. He’s a great player, I wouldn’t put him in the top bracket of players but nonetheless a great player who flourishes in City’s side under Pep and will continue to get better. Edited September 10, 2019 by Cruyff Turn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CostaJambo Posted September 10, 2019 Author Share Posted September 10, 2019 Speed, rarely injured and scores a lot. These are the only three attributes to his game mentioned on this thread so far yet several posters consider him brilliant, 2 of them have nothing to do with football really and the other one could probably be said of Uche if he was starting for Man City every week! Still not seeing it. Nothing against the guy, just not understanding why he gets such an easy ride from the English media these days. Bet Messi and Ronaldo are like WTF???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chuck berrys hairline Posted September 10, 2019 Share Posted September 10, 2019 21 minutes ago, Rudy T said: He’s twice the player he was for Liverpool since Pep has coached him. That’s the difference between a coach and a manager. I’d imagine Kane and Sterling are the first names on the England team sheet. Jordan Henderson on the other hand wouldn’t be guaranteed a game for Scotland utter dugshite! Henderson was the best player on the pitch at tynie when we played them. If he's dogshxxx then what are our players ?? 🤫😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted September 10, 2019 Share Posted September 10, 2019 Really good wide player. Pace, direct, scores goals at a high level. He's not in the top bracket of players but he's very good and he's incredibly effective. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudy T Posted September 10, 2019 Share Posted September 10, 2019 19 minutes ago, CostaJambo said: Speed, rarely injured and scores a lot. These are the only three attributes to his game mentioned on this thread so far yet several posters consider him brilliant, 2 of them have nothing to do with football really and the other one could probably be said of Uche if he was starting for Man City every week! Still not seeing it. Nothing against the guy, just not understanding why he gets such an easy ride from the English media these days. Bet Messi and Ronaldo are like WTF???? 3 assists and a goal in a 5-3 win. I think it’s safe to say he offers a lot more to the team. Not in the class of Messi or Ronaldo but perhaps as valuable to his teams as those two. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobNox Posted September 10, 2019 Share Posted September 10, 2019 48 minutes ago, Cruyff Turn said: Maybe a bit of truth in that. Certainly wouldn’t look as good without David Silva, Bernardo Silva, De Bruyne and Aguero laying them on a plate for him. If he played for us he'd be dug shite and would be booed on and off the pitch! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CostaJambo Posted September 10, 2019 Author Share Posted September 10, 2019 5 minutes ago, Rudy T said: 3 assists and a goal in a 5-3 win. I think it’s safe to say he offers a lot more to the team. Not in the class of Messi or Ronaldo but perhaps as valuable to his teams as those two. I am 51 and quite flabby, probably even fat lol, but I could probably have scored against Kosovo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudy T Posted September 10, 2019 Share Posted September 10, 2019 8 minutes ago, CostaJambo said: I am 51 and quite flabby, probably even fat lol, but I could probably have scored against Kosovo. Really, can you give Craig Levein a call then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homme Posted September 10, 2019 Share Posted September 10, 2019 Would slot in nicely to our line up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CostaJambo Posted September 10, 2019 Author Share Posted September 10, 2019 5 minutes ago, Rudy T said: Really, can you give Craig Levein a call then. Not quite sure the level of service to our forwards would be on a par with what the England midfield offers, maybe just me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted September 10, 2019 Share Posted September 10, 2019 (edited) Fantastic player, probably frustrating to watch or play with as he does still miss sitters or not pass when he should. Pep has had a good effect on him and will continue to do so. A little bit more work with his left foot wouldn’t go amiss. Seems like a good kid and a decent role model too, hated by the press for some reason. Edited September 10, 2019 by Pasquale for King Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted September 10, 2019 Share Posted September 10, 2019 14 minutes ago, CostaJambo said: Not quite sure the level of service to our forwards would be on a par with what the England midfield offers, maybe just me. We would play him at Right Wing back so it wouldn’t be an issue 🙈 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CloustonHMFC Posted September 11, 2019 Share Posted September 11, 2019 Top player. Football is a team game and Man City players all compliment and bring out the best in each other. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fabienleclerq Posted September 11, 2019 Share Posted September 11, 2019 He's a top player, is it because he's English some don't buy it? "cc oached to be in the right place at the right time" I wish that was an easy skill to teach. The boys been superb last couple of seasons. As for Champions league winning Henderson, he's captain of the best team to watch in the world atm. He plays his role pretty perfectly as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted September 11, 2019 Share Posted September 11, 2019 8 hours ago, Morgan said: Absolutely. Superb player, he really is. No he isn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seymour M Hersh Posted September 11, 2019 Share Posted September 11, 2019 6 hours ago, Rudy T said: He’s twice the player he was for Liverpool since Pep has coached him. That’s the difference between a coach and a manager. I’d imagine Kane and Sterling are the first names on the England team sheet. Jordan Henderson on the other hand wouldn’t be guaranteed a game for Scotland utter dugshite! You just announced to the world you know nothing about football. Congratulations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seymour M Hersh Posted September 11, 2019 Share Posted September 11, 2019 Mattaface was banging on about him being better than Neymar now and a future Balon Dor winner. Personally I disagree with both his statements. I also doubt, had he stayed, that he'd get a game up front for Liverpool just now. Who of Mane, Salah and Firmino would he replace? Although Klopp would also have improved him out of all recognition from the Rodgers version (as Pep has done). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vegas-voss Posted September 11, 2019 Share Posted September 11, 2019 42 minutes ago, Seymour M Hersh said: Mattaface was banging on about him being better than Neymar now and a future Balon Dor winner. Personally I disagree with both his statements. I also doubt, had he stayed, that he'd get a game up front for Liverpool just now. Who of Mane, Salah and Firmino would he replace? Although Klopp would also have improved him out of all recognition from the Rodgers version (as Pep has done). To be fair you would have to be incredible to replace those 3.I don't see anybody better to fit into the way Liverpool play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudy T Posted September 11, 2019 Share Posted September 11, 2019 55 minutes ago, Seymour M Hersh said: You just announced to the world you know nothing about football. Congratulations. C’mon then Pep jnr give us your insights... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nookie Bear Posted September 11, 2019 Share Posted September 11, 2019 2 hours ago, fabienleclerq said: He's a top player, is it because he's English some don't buy it? "cc oached to be in the right place at the right time" I wish that was an easy skill to teach. The boys been superb last couple of seasons. As for Champions league winning Henderson, he's captain of the best team to watch in the world atm. He plays his role pretty perfectly as well. The post below confirms the answer to your first question 1 hour ago, ri Alban said: No he isn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nookie Bear Posted September 11, 2019 Share Posted September 11, 2019 1 hour ago, Seymour M Hersh said: Mattaface was banging on about him being better than Neymar now and a future Balon Dor winner. Personally I disagree with both his statements. I also doubt, had he stayed, that he'd get a game up front for Liverpool just now. Who of Mane, Salah and Firmino would he replace? Although Klopp would also have improved him out of all recognition from the Rodgers version (as Pep has done). He is better than Neymar right now because he is a disinterested, selfish, shambles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hearts_91 Posted September 11, 2019 Share Posted September 11, 2019 It’s well documented that the English media don’t like him and will at any opportunity have a dig, definitely racist undertones to the coverage of him. I think he is a fantastic player, instead of hitting the wing and passing back as most modern day wingers do he tries to take players on and I think modern day defenders don’t know how to deal with that. Finishing is hit and miss but an area he has improved massively on as his stats reflect Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted September 11, 2019 Share Posted September 11, 2019 (edited) 29 minutes ago, Nookie Bear said: The post below confirms the answer to your first question Kane is better, as was Linekar, Barnes, Gazza, Hoddle, Beardsley, and Fowler. Real good players. Sterling isn't bad, but he's not superb. Rather have Barry up front if I was English. Edited September 11, 2019 by ri Alban Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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