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September and October 2019 in UK politics.

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Will there be a General Election.

Will the UK leave the EU without an agreement.

Are you feeling fear at all.

What will happen during this prorogation, like party conferences. As if international breaks weren't bad enough already. 

 

8 weeks from now, is 1st November 2019. And we will probably know what happened. 

 

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hughesie27

No

No and No.

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AlimOzturk

Pretty sure there is a whole thread about this somewhere.  

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Still Tynie

Nothing will be agreed about anything deal or no deal, couldn't care less

we're all skint and doomed anyway, a politician just can't say yes or no 

The needle returns to the start of the song and we'll all go along like before 

Nothing ever happens nothing happens at all 

 

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Mikey1874

General election might be later. 

 

If 'national unity' government emerges. 

 

Organising say a referendum on Brexit will take at least 6 months for example. 

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XB52

Yes no and no

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Mikey1874

How and when will the Conservative Party split may now be a related question. 

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Boof

Good luck to anyone doing a Modern Studies exam next May :lol:

 

And even gooder luck to anyone setting the questions for a Modern Studies exam next May :lol:

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Pans Jambo
11 hours ago, Old Castle Rock said:

Nothing will be agreed about anything deal or no deal, couldn't care less

we're all skint and doomed anyway, a politician just can't say yes or no 

The needle returns to the start of the song and we'll all go along like before 

Nothing ever happens nothing happens at all 

 

Could be a half decent song in there somewhere...

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Pans Jambo

I will guess. 

 

Bojo has a breakdown as he is forced by the grown-ups to ask those nasty people in Brussells for an extension until the end of February 2020 before we have a general election mid November. 

 

The Tories win slightly more seats than Labour in England which gives both of them a chance to cobble together some sort of alliances with the Lib-dems/SNP/Independents/Brexit Party etc. 

 

My money is on Labour/Lib Dems/SNP to work in a confidence & supply arrangement then theres a “peoples vote” which will include the option to revoke article 50 & remain. 

 

A Tory, DUP, Brexit party coalition would have to be ran by Satan himself!

 

Complete chaos!

 

Meanwhile, the SNP in Scotland take 51 seats on an Indy2 pledge to be held in 2020. 

 

Of course, Ive had a few beers so I might be wrong...

 

 

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Smack
7 hours ago, Boof said:

And even goodlier luck.... 

Ftfy

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Cade

Next General election may as well be decided doon the casino.

Absolutely anything could happen.

Fairly safe to say that nobody would have an overall majority.

Then it comes down to Tory/Ukip/Brexit/DUP against Labour/SNP/LibDems/Greens/Independents. 
Is Sinn Fein actually decide to show up in Westminster then THEY could hold the keys to #10.

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redjambo
43 minutes ago, Cade said:

Next General election may as well be decided doon the casino.

Absolutely anything could happen.

Fairly safe to say that nobody would have an overall majority.

Then it comes down to Tory/Ukip/Brexit/DUP against Labour/SNP/LibDems/Greens/Independents. 
Is Sinn Fein actually decide to show up in Westminster then THEY could hold the keys to #10.

 

And swear allegiance to the Queen? No chance, unfortunately. I've always wondered though - how do they represent their constituents or do they simply not do so at all?

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jake

There will be an extension .

There will be a continued media onslaught.

There will be no brexit.

There will be confirmation that anything north of Watford is irrelevant .

The same voters who voted leave will look to extremes .

Although most will just not bother anymore.

Which will suit the coffee cup guardian socialists.

Who want cheap plumbers and foreign slaves because apparently UK slaves dont want to do shit jobs for minimum rate.

 

The EU will consolidate and be lobbied by those with money and real power and continue down the road of TTIP.

 

DEMOCRACY IS A DEAD DUCK.

 

And hurried to its demise by those you hoped  would protect it.

 

The level of opposition has to be admired .

Although it's hardly original.

 

Just wait if Scotland should vote to leave the UK.

 

 

 

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ri Alban
6 hours ago, redjambo said:

 

And swear allegiance to the Queen? No chance, unfortunately. I've always wondered though - how do they represent their constituents or do they simply not do so at all?

Do u have to do that, these days?

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Montgomery Brewster
28 minutes ago, ri Alban said:

Do u have to do that, these days?

Yes

 

 

I, (Insert full name), do swear that I will be faithful and bear true allegiance to Her MajestyQueen Elizabeth II, her heirs and successors, according to law. So help me God.

 

 

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ri Alban
7 minutes ago, Montgomery Brewster said:

Yes

 

 

I, (Insert full name), do swear that I will be faithful and bear true allegiance to Her MajestyQueen Elizabeth II, her heirs and successors, according to law. So help me God.

 

 

Well... If ye cross yer fingers, it disnae coont. 🤞

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Boof
1 hour ago, Montgomery Brewster said:

Yes

 

 

I, (Insert full name), do swear that I will be faithful and bear true allegiance to Her MajestyQueen Elizabeth II, her heirs and successors, according to law. So help me God.

 

 

 

 

Have to bear allegiance to our unelected monarch in Scotland too.

 

From https://www.parliament.scot/newsandmediacentre/30383.aspx

 

Under the terms of the Scotland Act 1998, Sections 84(1) and 84(2), a person who is returned as a member of the Scottish Parliament cannot take part in parliamentary proceedings until he or she has taken the oath of allegiance or made a solemn affirmation.

 

The oath states: “I (Member’s Name), do swear that I will be faithful and bear true allegiance to Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth, Her Heirs and Successors, according to Law. So help me God.”

The affirmation states: “I (Member’s Name), do solemnly, sincerely and truly declare and affirm that I will be faithful and bear true allegiance to Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth, Her Heirs and Successors, according to Law.”

 

**** that shit, IMO.

 

Ah, well - there's my political aspirations deid in the water.

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AlphonseCapone
8 hours ago, redjambo said:

 

And swear allegiance to the Queen? No chance, unfortunately. I've always wondered though - how do they represent their constituents or do they simply not do so at all?

 

There are plenty ways to represent your constituent without going to parliament. They still hold surgeries. In fact I'd say most of the hard work representing your constituents gets done away from parliament. 

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redjambo
2 hours ago, AlphonseCapone said:

 

There are plenty ways to represent your constituent without going to parliament. They still hold surgeries. In fact I'd say most of the hard work representing your constituents gets done away from parliament. 

 

I didn't know that. Cheers.

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redjambo
2 hours ago, Boof said:

 

 

Have to bear allegiance to our unelected monarch in Scotland too.

 

From https://www.parliament.scot/newsandmediacentre/30383.aspx

 

Under the terms of the Scotland Act 1998, Sections 84(1) and 84(2), a person who is returned as a member of the Scottish Parliament cannot take part in parliamentary proceedings until he or she has taken the oath of allegiance or made a solemn affirmation.

 

The oath states: “I (Member’s Name), do swear that I will be faithful and bear true allegiance to Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth, Her Heirs and Successors, according to Law. So help me God.”

The affirmation states: “I (Member’s Name), do solemnly, sincerely and truly declare and affirm that I will be faithful and bear true allegiance to Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth, Her Heirs and Successors, according to Law.”

 

**** that shit, IMO.

 

Ah, well - there's my political aspirations deid in the water.

 

I remember many years back we had a debate on TV on the subject of whether to get rid of the monarchy, backed up by phone polling. The only region in the UK that voted to abolish the monarchy was Scotland. This could well be up for debate again if independence happens. I'm not overly fussed about the royals myself, but no way should we be "bearing true allegiance" to one person. We should be bearing allegiance to the Scottish people, if anything. Obviously, "God" shouldn't be in there as well.

 

Perhaps a simple affirmation to do your best for Scotland and the people who live here would do the trick, if anything was needed at all. Hopefully this will happen as part of Scotland throwing off its shackles, and that includes the binning of worthless parliamentary oaths.

 

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dobmisterdobster

Sinn Fein?? Is that how desperate things are for Jezza?

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redjambo
19 minutes ago, dobmisterdobster said:

Sinn Fein?? Is that how desperate things are for Jezza?

 

Jesus, man. Sinn Fein was merely mentioned by a poster on here. Everyone knows they will play no part in this. You are rapidly becoming a parody of yourself.

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dobmisterdobster
3 minutes ago, redjambo said:

 

Jesus, man. Sinn Fein was merely mentioned by a poster on here. Everyone knows they will play no part in this. You are rapidly becoming a parody of yourself.

Understandable, have a great day.

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redjambo
1 minute ago, dobmisterdobster said:

Understandable, have a great day.

 

You too.

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AlphonseCapone
2 hours ago, redjambo said:

 

I remember many years back we had a debate on TV on the subject of whether to get rid of the monarchy, backed up by phone polling. The only region in the UK that voted to abolish the monarchy was Scotland. This could well be up for debate again if independence happens. I'm not overly fussed about the royals myself, but no way should we be "bearing true allegiance" to one person. We should be bearing allegiance to the Scottish people, if anything. Obviously, "God" shouldn't be in there as well.

 

Perhaps a simple affirmation to do your best for Scotland and the people who live here would do the trick, if anything was needed at all. Hopefully this will happen as part of Scotland throwing off its shackles, and that includes the binning of worthless parliamentary oaths.

 

 

Good post and agree completely. How long ago was bolded part? 

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Boof
3 hours ago, redjambo said:

 

Perhaps a simple affirmation to do your best for Scotland and the people who live here would do the trick, if anything was needed at all. Hopefully this will happen as part of Scotland throwing off its shackles, and that includes the binning of worthless parliamentary oaths.

 

 

That's more like it.

 

Good post.

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redjambo
2 hours ago, AlphonseCapone said:

 

Good post and agree completely. How long ago was bolded part? 

 

I thought it was longer ago than that, but this looks like it:

 

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/monarchy-should-go-says-a-third-of-tv-poll-1282117.html

 

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/66-yes-vote-to-monarchy-in-tv-phone-poll-contradicts-previous-result-1.19905

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ri Alban
7 hours ago, redjambo said:

 

I remember many years back we had a debate on TV on the subject of whether to get rid of the monarchy, backed up by phone polling. The only region in the UK that voted to abolish the monarchy was Scotland. This could well be up for debate again if independence happens. I'm not overly fussed about the royals myself, but no way should we be "bearing true allegiance" to one person. We should be bearing allegiance to the Scottish people, if anything. Obviously, "God" shouldn't be in there as well.

 

Perhaps a simple affirmation to do your best for Scotland and the people who live here would do the trick, if anything was needed at all. Hopefully this will happen as part of Scotland throwing off its shackles, and that includes the binning of worthless parliamentary oaths.

 

Ann Robinson hosted it, I think?

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Zlatanable

Deep things seem to be shifting. 

 

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Zlatanable

Do you think the UK will be in the EU on 1st November with same Government?

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Roxy Hearts
On 07/09/2019 at 07:43, Montgomery Brewster said:

Yes

 

 

I, (Insert full name), do swear that I will be faithful and bear true allegiance to Her MajestyQueen Elizabeth II, her heirs and successors, according to law. So help me God.

 

 

She's QE2 in England but QE1 in Scotland. The first yin cut off MQoS heid. 

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Zlatanable

Do you think Boris Johnson expected to lose this many votes in HoC?

It's feeling a bit like anarchy or something at the moment.  

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Zlatanable
2 minutes ago, Zlatanable said:

Do you think Boris Johnson expected to lose this many votes in HoC?

It's feeling a bit like anarchy or something at the moment.  

I'm guessing he has a move up his sleeve. Wonder what it will be. 

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Zlatanable
34 minutes ago, Roxy Hearts said:

She's QE2 in England but QE1 in Scotland. The first yin cut off MQoS heid. 

 

'Why it is correct to refer to our monarch as Elizabeth II, even north of the Border'

 

https://www.heraldscotland.com/opinion/13719651.why-it-is-correct-to-refer-to-our-monarch-as-elizabeth-ii-even-north-of-the-border/

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Roxy Hearts
1 hour ago, Zlatanable said:

 

'Why it is correct to refer to our monarch as Elizabeth II, even north of the Border'

 

https://www.heraldscotland.com/opinion/13719651.why-it-is-correct-to-refer-to-our-monarch-as-elizabeth-ii-even-north-of-the-border/

Still QE1 for me. Scotland has never had a Queen Elizabeth until now. Changing history doesn't change the fact. The Brit state are always trying airbrush over everything to blur the lines. 

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Craig_
On 07/09/2019 at 01:09, jake said:

The EU will consolidate and be lobbied by those with money and real power and continue down the road of TTIP.

 

Good. Thursday nights haven't been the same since they axed it. 

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Zlatanable

So we say goodbye to Westminster politics soon. 

Seems extreme, Imo. 

 

I'm expecting a lot of politics via social media. (like brain deadening levels)

I'm expecting Boris Johnson to play the ace up his sleeve.

 

I have no idea what is going to happen. 

 

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Zlatanable

a maiden speech there, 

Northern Ireland Executive Motions now (no idea)

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Zlatanable

This whole Northern Ireland abortion debate, is complicated and difficult thing to hear.

 

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Zlatanable

Parliamentary Buildings Bill now, get to the bit where they hand out the spare stationery

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Zlatanable

Boris Johnson arrives, is he gonna nick the all the spare stationery?

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Zlatanable

Point of Order re Grieve thing. Bercow doing his thing.

'that is the RE-a-lity'

Speaker speech things are always fun. 

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Zlatanable

Chukka Umunna, being serious face. 

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Zlatanable

'Persist' 'Persist' 'Persist"...

cheap badinage and ribaldry...'

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Zlatanable

ooh, ooh ooh, early gen election thing by Boris Johnson now. 

 

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Zlatanable

ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha Westminster

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Zlatanable

switching to lager

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Zlatanable

Boris Johnson is setting up the arguments for this next , maybe mythical, general election, in broad brush strokes.

 

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