LeftBack Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 Watching a documentary... Wouldn't say he was in the top ten... But he was in in the top one. Brian Howard Clough Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 Put him alongside Jim MacLean in my time. Similar unfashionable clubs. Similar in trusting the players to play though MacLean was still hard on them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomaso Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 For me......1988.....JJ. 🏆👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VALDOS' Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 I think it's a tough question because the likes of clough and Sir Alex would struggle starting out in the modern game(as in right now) , likewise some managers today would have been laughed out the dressing room 30 years ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weakened Offender Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 Brian Clough was the greatest manager. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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LeftBack Posted August 24, 2019 Author Share Posted August 24, 2019 Just now, Weakened Offender said: Brian Clough was the greatest manager. Right answer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeftBack Posted August 24, 2019 Author Share Posted August 24, 2019 And he was great player. 250 goals in 270 games Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XXX Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 I must mention Giovanni Trapattoni. Trapattoni guided Juventus to six Serie A championships, two Coppa Italias and all three major European Cups. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benny Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 Same reply every time there is a thread about him. Not the same without Peter Taylor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tynieman Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 10 minutes ago, Zlatanable said: Brian Clough was the manager I knew about. (Jock Stein I knew he was Scotland manager, Shankly didn't know , etc) But I knew about Brian Clough. The smith's "frankly my shankly" is loosely based on Shankly according to the old rumours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benny Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 2 minutes ago, Tynieman said: The smith's "frankly my shankly" is loosely based on Shankly according to the old rumours. Seemingly it is about Rough Trade Founder Geoff Travis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weakened Offender Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 G 12 minutes ago, LeftBack said: Right answer Clough should have retired after the Spurs final. His battle with alcohol was becoming more public and it was very sad to see it playing out in the way it did. He was in a league of his own though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fozzyonthefence Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 28 minutes ago, Mikey1874 said: Put him alongside Jim MacLean in my time. Similar unfashionable clubs. Similar in trusting the players to play though MacLean was still hard on them. Both arseholes too. I think both only won the league once too so probably too much of a stretch to have them both at the top, although as you say they were at unfashionable clubs and winning back to back European Cups at Forest was a tremendous achievement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Салатные палочки Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 23 minutes ago, VALDOS' said: I think it's a tough question because the likes of clough and Sir Alex would struggle starting out in the modern game(as in right now) , likewise some managers today would have been laughed out the dressing room 30 years ago. That's true. I will always say it was Fergie but in 20 years when I try to say to someone much younger they will probably shrug and say "aye okay". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weakened Offender Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Fozzyonthefence said: Both arseholes too. I think both only won the league once too so probably too much of a stretch to have them both at the top, although as you say they were at unfashionable clubs and winning back to back European Cups at Forest was a tremendous achievement. Clough won the league twice. With two very unfashionable clubs. Taking Derby County to the EC Semi Final. 😊 Edited August 24, 2019 by Weakened Offender Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
georgeparkdb Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 32 minutes ago, Cruickshank for Scotland said: For me......1988.....JJ. 🏆👍 1998. But agree entirely Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomaso Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 Just now, georgeparkdb said: 1998. But agree entirely Ooops! 🙈 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NB GIN Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 49 minutes ago, Weakened Offender said: Brian Clough was the greatest manager. He was Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swanny17 Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 It’s so obvious FFS. How can anyone forget Anatoliy Korobochka? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadyAcres Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 Bob Paisley. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thommo414 Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 2 minutes ago, Swanny17 said: It’s so obvious FFS. How can anyone forget Anatoliy Korobochka? Because he's a poor man's Stevie Frail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allyby Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 Tony Mowbray. End of. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgan Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 Cloughie, Shanks or Fergie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AW1 Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 Always a daft question this. Players evolve so do managers and coaching. There can only be a greatest manager of each era never a greatest manager of all time. In my lifetime 80s........ Brian Clough 90s........ Sir Alex Feguson 00s........ Jose Mourinho(might get slated but look at what he won between 2003 and 2010) "Teenies"....... Pep Guardiola Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgan Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 1 hour ago, Cruickshank for Scotland said: For me......1988.....JJ. 🏆👍 What happened in 1988, Cruickie? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomaso Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 1 minute ago, Morgan said: What happened in 1988, Cruickie? Henry broke my heart at Hampden.....😢 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgan Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 2 minutes ago, Cruickshank for Scotland said: Henry broke my heart at Hampden.....😢 You wee lamb. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomaso Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 1 minute ago, Morgan said: You wee lamb. There was a whole flock of us there that day! 🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgan Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 Folk can shove Jose (a wee bit) and Pep (a big bit) right up their arse in a ‘best manager ever’ thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gorgie Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 Zidane has to get a mention. Won more champions leagues than fergie/jose/pep, all within 3 years of being a first team manager. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJAMBO Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 8 minutes ago, Cruickshank for Scotland said: Henry broke my heart at Hampden.....😢 Was that a cup semi final big roger scored in ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
south morocco Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 Subjective. Different eras, different players, budgets, I’ll go for Ferguson. Constantly building new winning teams Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgan Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 1 minute ago, Cruickshank for Scotland said: There was a whole flock of us there that day! 🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomaso Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 1 minute ago, AJAMBO said: Was that a cup semi final big roger scored in ? Yup.... still hurts that one!! 2 minutes away from a Final. 😢 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Beni of Gorgie Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 4 minutes ago, Morgan said: Folk can shove Jose (a wee bit) and Pep (a big bit) right up their arse in a ‘best manager ever’ thread. Quite. Too many resources to quantify just how good they are. Tough question to answer in truth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgan Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 1 minute ago, south morocco said: Subjective. Different eras, different players, budgets, I’ll go for Ferguson. Constantly building new winning teams Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Beni of Gorgie Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 1 minute ago, south morocco said: Subjective. Different eras, different players, budgets, I’ll go for Ferguson. Constantly building new winning teams St Mirren Aberdeen and Manchester United. All brought to different levels on different scales Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allyby Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 12 minutes ago, Cruickshank for Scotland said: Henry broke my heart at Hampden.....😢 I remember that day well. at full time as we were coming out the ground a daft Celtic fan decided to come through the lot of us singing his bile, he got a hell of a towsing! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomaso Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 Just now, allyby said: I remember that day well. at full time as we were coming out the ground a daft Celtic fan decided to come through the lot of us singing his bile, he got a hell of a towsing! Pleasing! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgan Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 1 hour ago, Cruickshank for Scotland said: Ooops! 🙈 Just saw this, Cruickie. Apologies! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig_ Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 (edited) Pep may well have a case in five years or so. Can't really think of any other candidates from the last few years. Klopp maybe. Edited August 24, 2019 by Craig_ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selkirkhmfc1874 Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 Fergie for me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomaso Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 Just now, Morgan said: Just saw this, Cruickie. Apologies! No problem - slip of the old finger - although I’m now depressed thinking about that 88 semi.... 🙈 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fozzyonthefence Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 1 hour ago, Weakened Offender said: Clough won the league twice. With two very unfashionable clubs. Taking Derby County to the EC Semi Final. 😊 I forgot he won the league with Derby too, although I don’t remember as I was about 4 or 5. Great achievements with both clubs then and won their only titles, although I would argue taking Dundee Utd to the EC Semi Final was a greater achievement than doing it with Derby. Of course Clough won the EC twice with Forest too and they must surely be the only European club that have won the EC / CL more times than they have won their domestic title. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brunoatemyhamster Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 I'll tell you who it's no.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgan Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 1 minute ago, Cruickshank for Scotland said: No problem - slip of the old finger - although I’m now depressed thinking about that 88 semi.... 🙈 Can’t believe you’ve said ‘slip of the old finger’ and ‘semi’ in the same sentence! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJAMBO Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Cruickshank for Scotland said: Yup.... still hurts that one!! 2 minutes away from a Final. 😢 I remember taking my young brother to the game for his 14th birthday. We were in the family enclosure to the left of the as then known rangers end. It was mostly Celtic but we were next to the fencing and it wasn't busy. Didn't care. After the game was some bother. Was gutting to lose the way we did. The Hearts support was excellent to watch. Only the second time in my life I've seen it from outside. Other was QOS in 1981. Goose pimples i was standing almost in line when the big mad looping thump from Roger R.I.P happened Edited August 24, 2019 by AJAMBO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomaso Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 1 minute ago, Morgan said: Can’t believe you’ve said ‘slip of the old finger’ and ‘semi’ in the same sentence! 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fozzyonthefence Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 13 minutes ago, Sir Gio said: Quite. Too many resources to quantify just how good they are. Tough question to answer in truth It is. While Clough’s greatest achievements were probably winning the EC twice, Fergie only winning it twice, despite Utd’s domestic dominance, appears a bit of a failure. Particularly compared to how many times Real and Barca were winning it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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