The White Cockade Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 and yet we have the sad old groomers trying to encourage teenagers to carry on this "tradition" at Hearts Pathetic stuff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
¼½¾ Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 10 hours ago, farin said: Its all Kilmarnock's fault for reporting them in the 1st place. 😊 Sounds like UEFA and Gary O'Hagen are in for some trouble. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lovecraft Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 17 minutes ago, Lemongrab said: Sounds like UEFA and Gary O'Hagen are in for some trouble. I hope they don't sell any cheap sports gear or buckfast, or they are ****ed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambof3tornado Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 24 minutes ago, Lemongrab said: Sounds like UEFA and Gary O'Hagen are in for some trouble. I sincerely hope the rangers go head to head with UEFA!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kila Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 I don't think the SPFL/SFA will be able to keep sweeping this under the carpet. Oh, and I imagine Rangers fans will be of the same sort of thinking as Ian Holloway and claim Brexit will mean UEFA can't punish them anymore Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Djnoisy Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 The SFA and the SPFL won't say anything due to the financial implications it will have on them as organisations. I for one hope UEFA rip all of them a new arse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weegie jambo Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 54 minutes ago, Rave MacPherson said: This is what i think of when i hear the words "folk music" I think some people on here have a very skewed view of what constitutes folk music. Like saying all pop music is like Joe Dolce! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armageddon Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 20 hours ago, Notts1874 said: Stop singing those songs please.........please buy our orange strip. ”10% discount on armed forces day, if you follow the Union Jack lined path to our Sports Direct super..... Oh shit! :(” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Preston Jambo Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 Billy Dodds defending Rangers having Orange strips on Sportsound. 🙉 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Dan Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 These Rangers guys just can’t admit there’s a problem that needs dealt with. As for that weed Doncaster he needs to go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EIEIO Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 14 minutes ago, Preston Jambo said: Billy Dodds defending Rangers having Orange strips on Sportsound. 🙉 It never occurred to Derek Ferguson that the orange strips could fan the flames of sectarianism. Worryingly he's heavily involved with show racism the red card. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texia Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 16 minutes ago, Preston Jambo said: Billy Dodds defending Rangers having Orange strips on Sportsound. 🙉 It was staggering. Tribute to the Dutch boys Fair play to Michael Stewart he wasn’t taking any of their shit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jake Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 14 minutes ago, Preston Jambo said: Billy Dodds defending Rangers having Orange strips on Sportsound. 🙉 Heard it mate. Mike Stewart's not popular on here but anyone listening would know he called it. Billy Dodds kidding himself but no one else it's in honour of the Dutch players. I know what you mean Michael he says but let's not go down that route . I mean yes we all know what it means but but but . Shut up Dodds you absolute halfwit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jake Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 And let's just remember we have our own wee problem . Budge hopefully with the vast majority of us can get this stopped. And hopefully we can impose our own Eufa ban on away supports who continue to bring religious politics to a game of football. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DETTY29 Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 5 minutes ago, jake said: Heard it mate. Mike Stewart's not popular on here but anyone listening would know he called it. Billy Dodds kidding himself but no one else it's in honour of the Dutch players. I know what you mean Michael he says but let's not go down that route . I mean yes we all know what it means but but but . Shut up Dodds you absolute halfwit Was it Billy or Derek Ferguson that said that no club should be allowed to wear orange as they must be sectarian too? This we what we are up against. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texia Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 3 minutes ago, jake said: And let's just remember we have our own wee problem . Budge hopefully with the vast majority of us can get this stopped. And hopefully we can impose our own Eufa ban on away supports who continue to bring religious politics to a game of football. The difference between us and Rangers is with them it is institutional it runs through the whole club, just like Celtic, it is a poison that they used to build their clubs to the level they are. We’ll sort it out, we have the will and the want to change it and rid ourselves of the unsavoury element. At Hearts it is a minority and we have taken action against it, we are free to criticise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DETTY29 Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 25 minutes ago, Texia said: The difference between us and Rangers is with them it is institutional it runs through the whole club, just like Celtic, it is a poison that they used to build their clubs to the level they are. We’ll sort it out, we have the will and the want to change it and rid ourselves of the unsavoury element. At Hearts it is a minority and we have taken action against it, we are free to criticise. Richard Gordon saying that you could see 12 and 13 year olds singing exact same words as everyone else. Just copying their dad's like for like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jake Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 (edited) 43 minutes ago, DETTY29 said: Was it Billy or Derek Ferguson that said that no club should be allowed to wear orange as they must be sectarian too? This we what we are up against. Billy Dodds said what about Kilmarnocks away top. It's an amazing example of breathtaking denial. He should be imo as someone who is given airtime be taken to task on that. That's as far as I got . Was out the car after that. So I can imagine that also being said. Edited August 24, 2019 by jake Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jake Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 36 minutes ago, Texia said: The difference between us and Rangers is with them it is institutional it runs through the whole club, just like Celtic, it is a poison that they used to build their clubs to the level they are. We’ll sort it out, we have the will and the want to change it and rid ourselves of the unsavoury element. At Hearts it is a minority and we have taken action against it, we are free to criticise. On a shallow note I'd love it just to cut both they %#÷£@ ticket allocation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Dan Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 This sectarianism is engrained in the psyche of the bigots and their cheer leaders. The week a pee bodies that run the game won’t do anything as evidenced last week by the sound of silence from them when Rangers were given the punishment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gambo Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 If UEFA can ban Rangers fans from part of their own ground, surely we can ban them from the Roseburn? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diadora Van Basten Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 Every article I have read mentions the word “minority”. It it may be that it is a minority but if it is then it’s a sizeable and very loud minority. The way they pander to these bigots is why they have got away with t for so long. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvin Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 (edited) 8 hours ago, Deevers said: Exactly - the SFA have match delegates at all games. The ones that attend games involving the Old Firm must be deaf and blind. No doubt the delegates are also singing the Billy boys etc which is why action from GFA is rare Edited August 24, 2019 by Marvin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biguche Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 2 hours ago, Preston Jambo said: Billy Dodds defending Rangers having Orange strips on Sportsound. 🙉 Maybe I'm being thick but how is the orange strip sectarian? Having an association with protestantism doesn't equate to anti-catholic does it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buzz Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 6 minutes ago, Biguche said: Maybe I'm being thick but how is the orange strip sectarian? Having an association with protestantism doesn't equate to anti-catholic does it? Stewart was saying if Rangers are doing all they can to eliminate sectarianism then bringing out an orange strip isn’t helpful. Dodds and Ferguson saying it was only to recognise the Dutch players they had years ago and refusing to acknowledge any other reason could be possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackford Hearts Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 (edited) When was the last Dutch player signed by The Rangers? When was was the last notable Dutch player signed by Rangers? How relevant are they for bringing out multiple kits and training kits? Pathetic bunch Edited August 24, 2019 by Blackford Hearts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XXX Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Blackford Hearts said: When was the last Dutch player signed by The Rangers? When was was the last notable Dutch player signed by Rangers? Nineteen years ago, Fernando Ricksen. Edited August 24, 2019 by The Spy Who Loved Me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackford Hearts Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 1 minute ago, The Spy Who Loved Me said: Nineteen years ago, Fernando Ricksen. I have just edited my post as it looked that way. It’s not like they won in Europe! In contrast Hearts have the remembrance strip each year for one game only and no other one I can think of? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weegie jambo Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 3 hours ago, Rave MacPherson said: Are you suggesting it isn't? Ha ha, thereby hangs a very long discussion and probably not one for a football fansite! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weegie jambo Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 3 hours ago, Rave MacPherson said: Are you suggesting it isn't? oops double post Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XXX Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 3 minutes ago, Blackford Hearts said: I have just edited my post as it looked that way. It’s not like they won in Europe! In contrast Hearts have the remembrance strip each year for one game only and no other one I can think of? James McClean and Nemanja Matic didn’t and Southampton, the only Premiership club not to sport the Remembrance strip too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheOak88 Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 Ferguson and Doddsy completely embarrassing themselves. Elite level apologists. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mysterion Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 7 minutes ago, Zlatanable said: That Derek Ferguson stream of consciousness on Sportsound was quality, talking about how Rangers (club) have it drummed into them that they have to respect everyone else, players, clubs, fans. Where Ferguson is coming from it is true that players from pro youth upwards have to abide by a strict set of rules however this is the same at all clubs. The problem is he thinks that Rangers have standards that are better than anyone else which is simply untrue. Ferguson seems to overlook that the behaviours he proudly suggests are integral at Rangers are not exhibited by their fans. As for the Orange strip - the one in the 90s was bigotry dressed up as a tribute to the Dutch players. Hold on... bigotry dressed up as a tribute... sounds familiar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackford Hearts Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 1 hour ago, The Spy Who Loved Me said: James McClean and Nemanja Matic didn’t and Southampton, the only Premiership club not to sport the Remembrance strip too. This is not my view but those I have read about, that both of those players mentioned had very strong family reasons not to wear the strips. I have no interest in getting into a where and why debate (with the wider audience) as I deliberately know very little about this, but it seems family members of both died which naturally coloured their views and perspectives. I don’t know either player personally and whilst James McLean hardly comes across as likeable I believe we are talking about much wider reasons than merely like or dislike of them. I am not a fan of violence whenever it occurs. The Southampton one seems odd. Do you know why? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 7 hours ago, kila said: I don't think the SPFL/SFA will be able to keep sweeping this under the carpet. Oh, and I imagine Rangers fans will be of the same sort of thinking as Ian Holloway and claim Brexit will mean UEFA can't punish them anymore Tell me that thick fecker didnae say that. For the love of God, tell me you made it up. Tell me!!!!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
been here before Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 17 minutes ago, ri Alban said: Tell me that thick fecker didnae say that. For the love of God, tell me you made it up. Tell me!!!!!!!!!! https://news.sky.com/video/ian-holloway-links-var-to-brexit-11790342 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weakened Offender Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 A Quintessentially Pondlife Club. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XXX Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 31 minutes ago, Blackford Hearts said: This is not my view but those I have read about, that both of those players mentioned had very strong family reasons not to wear the strips. I have no interest in getting into a where and why debate (with the wider audience) as I deliberately know very little about this, but it seems family members of both died which naturally coloured their views and perspectives. I don’t know either player personally and whilst James McLean hardly comes across as likeable I believe we are talking about much wider reasons than merely like or dislike of them. I am not a fan of violence whenever it occurs. The Southampton one seems odd. Do you know why? No reason, however the club had an auction before Remembrance Day on their shirts and gave their proceeds away to the Legion. On a side note, I do remember far back in 2009 when Liverpool and Manchester United were the only top flight not to wear a poppy on their shirt, again not sure why I’m afraid.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 2 minutes ago, been here before said: https://news.sky.com/video/ian-holloway-links-var-to-brexit-11790342 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biguche Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 4 hours ago, buzz said: Stewart was saying if Rangers are doing all they can to eliminate sectarianism then bringing out an orange strip isn’t helpful. Dodds and Ferguson saying it was only to recognise the Dutch players they had years ago and refusing to acknowledge any other reason could be possible. The Dutch thing is a lot of pish but it's not sectarian to bring out an orange top because of their link to Protestantism Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fly the Saltire Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 23 minutes ago, Biguche said: The Dutch thing is a lot of pish but it's not sectarian to bring out an orange top because of their link to Protestantism But they knew what they were doing by playing up to the bigots. UEFA have taken a hard line of both of the bigot brothers while the SFA have closed their eyes and ears to sectarian and rascist chants and songs since I was a boy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Brown Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 22 minutes ago, Biguche said: The Dutch thing is a lot of pish but it's not sectarian to bring out an orange top because of their link to Protestantism In a naive sense you may be right. But in a pathetic Scotland sense, it is beyond stupid not to see the implications. Sectarianism in Scotland is our national disgrace, please refrain from your senseless comments. They are not smart and not in the slightest bit funny. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rory78 Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 The SFA will never do anything about this ,Celtic and Rangers need it or they'd have nothing to sing about each week - outside both grounds every week the merchandise is all for the bigots so why would they stop it?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vic Vespa Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 Never been on Bears Den before, bit of an eye opener. I knew there were people out there with that deranged mindset just didn't realise they had learned to type yet ..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackLadd Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 1 minute ago, Marriott said: Never been on Bears Den before, bit of an eye opener. I knew there were people out there with that deranged mindset just didn't realise they had learned to type yet ..... Swivel-eyed inbred morons and that's just the good ones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambof3tornado Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 6 minutes ago, Marriott said: Never been on Bears Den before, bit of an eye opener. I knew there were people out there with that deranged mindset just didn't realise they had learned to type yet ..... Its incredible that it isnt closed down given some of the content. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vic Vespa Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 2 minutes ago, Jambof3tornado said: Its incredible that it isnt closed down given some of the content. Agreed, I've maybe led a sheltered life but I've rarely read a forum and shook my head at that same time, well apart from Gorgie Loyal 🙄 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobNox Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 32 minutes ago, Marriott said: Never been on Bears Den before, bit of an eye opener. I knew there were people out there with that deranged mindset just didn't realise they had learned to type yet ..... That's the infinite monkey theory at work right there! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DETTY29 Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 (edited) 4 hours ago, Zlatanable said: That Derek Ferguson stream of consciousness on Sportsound was quality, talking about how Rangers (club) have it drummed into them that they have to respect everyone else, players, clubs, fans. Right, So when a player goes to the 1690 Larkhall Loyal(ist) (Orange) Order Rangers Supporters Club Player of the Year, accepts his award and the whole hall sings all sorts of sectarian shit, he walks out, reports the SC and Rangers in turn warn said SC that if it doesn't stop immediately no more player attendance and ticket applications for games declined. That is taking bigotry seriously. Same with brigades and so on from the other arse cheek. Edited August 24, 2019 by DETTY29 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobNox Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 From Huns Den... This is the annoying thing if we had kept it for the domestic games everything would have been fine ... Europe is majority catholic and these songs will always be seen differently there and it just takes timothy to keep pointing for there to be a problem I fully expect they will continue to belt out the sectarian stuff with great gusto in domestic games Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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