Spellczech Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Boab said: Sorry, but i’m not having any of that, mate. There have been threads before about this and the own house in order card is always played. It is in our power....it’s our stadium....to dictate how large an away support can be. If the problem of sectarianism is to be tackled seriously, it needs people like AB to say...no, we’re not having this, we’re closing a section to you because of chants. Now, why has this not happened ? I have a, cynical, opinion why ! Put it this way, it’s not because she might get criticised ! You make a fair point. Have you put it to the club? Perhaps Budge should come out and criticise the OF party songs again. She'll get the whataboutery response because of our own idiots. Perhaps she should reduce their allocation every time they are heard to sing their repetoire? But the whataboutery will dictate that the media will ask why she does not close N & G too... There is an order to things, and we need to get our house in order first so we are irreproachable. There I am back to divide and vacillate, whataboutery, plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose... Edited August 23, 2019 by Spellczech Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lovecraft Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Spellczech said: You make a fair point. Have you put it to the club? Perhaps Budge should come out and criticise the OF party songs again. She'll get the whataboutery response because of our own idiots. Perhaps she should reduce their allocation every time they are heard to sing their repetoire? But the whataboutery will dictate that the media will ask why she does not close N & G too... There is an order to things, and we need to get our house in order first so we are irreproachable. There I am back to divide and vacillate, whataboutery, plus ca change... It's deep grained Scottish society. Not just football. Football is just an excuse. Why do you think the politicians take a wide berth? The fact that no politicians are trying to use this as point scoring tells you all you need to know. Edited August 23, 2019 by Lovecraft Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor FinnBarr Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 From the few huns I have on my FB page, it appears somebody O'Hagan CEO of Killie was the Uefa rep at the St Julians game and thats where the complaint has stemmed from. They seem very upset he has a non proddy name Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boab Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 Just now, Spellczech said: You make a fair point. Have you put it to the club? Perhaps Budge should come out and criticise the OF party songs again. She'll get the whataboutery response because of our own idiots. Perhaps she should reduce their allocation every time they are heard to sing their repetoire? But the whataboutery will dictate that the media will ask why she does not close N & G too... There is an order to things, and we need to get our house in order first so we are irreproachable. There I am back to divide and vacillate, whataboutery, plus ca change... We have closed a section. That’s the thing. Who cares what is said to AB if she took action. It would be a bold move and put to bed any suspicion that money has anything to do with this. Once and for all ! I have contacted the club in regard of away allocations in light of incidents last season. Never got a reply. Hey ho ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lovecraft Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 1 minute ago, FinnBarr Saunders said: From the few huns I have on my FB page, it appears somebody O'Hagan CEO of Killie was the Uefa rep at the St Julians game and thats where the complaint has stemmed from. They seem very upset he has a non proddy name Again. Nothing to do with football. They are ****ing neanderthal idiots. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor FinnBarr Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 1 minute ago, Lovecraft said: Again. Nothing to do with football. They are ****ing neanderthal idiots. Yep Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lovecraft Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 1 minute ago, Boab said: We have closed a section. That’s the thing. Who cares what is said to AB if she took action. It would be a bold move and put to bed any suspicion that money has anything to do with this. Once and for all ! I have contacted the club in regard of away allocations in light of incidents last season. Never got a reply. Hey ho ! I would love both the OF allocation to be reduced. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor FinnBarr Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 1 minute ago, Lovecraft said: I would love both the OF allocation to be reduced. Fickin right, keep both sides of the arsecheeks out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lovecraft Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 4 minutes ago, FinnBarr Saunders said: From the few huns I have on my FB page, it appears somebody O'Hagan CEO of Killie was the Uefa rep at the St Julians game and thats where the complaint has stemmed from. They seem very upset he has a non proddy name 90% of Rangers fans couldn't tell you what a Protestant is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spellczech Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 3 minutes ago, Boab said: We have closed a section. That’s the thing. Who cares what is said to AB if she took action. It would be a bold move and put to bed any suspicion that money has anything to do with this. Once and for all ! I have contacted the club in regard of away allocations in light of incidents last season. Never got a reply. Hey ho ! Perhaps it is all tee'd up for Budge to do exactly as we've discussed then? I'd certainly like to see the OF allocation reduced too... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lovecraft Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 (edited) 1 minute ago, FinnBarr Saunders said: Fickin right, keep both sides of the arsecheeks out Why don't we use the FOH money towards doing that? Better than paying for Martin, Sammon or Oshaniwa. It would also reduce the policing costs. Fact! Edited August 23, 2019 by Lovecraft Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor FinnBarr Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 1 minute ago, Lovecraft said: 90% of Rangers fans couldn't tell you what a Protestant is. LOL, bullshit, they know they are something that starts with a P that isnae very keen on RCs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lovecraft Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 Just now, FinnBarr Saunders said: LOL, bullshit, they know they are something that starts with a P that isnae very keen on RCs Protestants hate cafliks Buuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuhhh! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor FinnBarr Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 1 minute ago, Lovecraft said: Protestants hate cafliks Buuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuhhh! Isn't it Kaffliks? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lovecraft Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 Just now, FinnBarr Saunders said: Isn't it Kaffliks? Khaffliks Shurely? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boab Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 5 minutes ago, Spellczech said: Perhaps it is all tee'd up for Budge to do exactly as we've discussed then? I'd certainly like to see the OF allocation reduced too... I’m glad to hear it ! I got the impression from your earlier post that we should get our own problems sorted first. A debatable point for a while now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor FinnBarr Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 1 minute ago, Lovecraft said: Khaffliks Shurely? No, the H after the K is a modern thing, they were just Kafflicks before that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lovecraft Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 Just now, FinnBarr Saunders said: No, the H after the K is a modern thing, they were just Kafflicks before that It's 2019 FFS 2000 and 19 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spellczech Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 6 minutes ago, Boab said: I’m glad to hear it ! I got the impression from your earlier post that we should get our own problems sorted first. A debatable point for a while now. I think she's already done it. Not sure there is a great deal more that Budge can do to sort out the idiots in our support... Next step surely has to be to try to stop the goons they try to imitate from rocking up at Tynecastle? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lovecraft Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 (edited) Just chucking this out there: Maybe the SFA/SPL have asked for OOFA to step in? Edited August 23, 2019 by Lovecraft Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boab Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 Just now, farin said: Im sure you’ll agree in this instance at least uefa are doing the right thing. Certainly far more than the Sfa have, who knows this might be a watershed moment. Just highlighting the hypocrisy, mate. I inserted a caveat about supporting this but, aye, totally agree. Makes our monkeys in charge look the monkeys they are, frankly. I’ll credit UEFA for that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spellczech Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 Just now, Lovecraft said: Just chucking this out there: Maybe the SFA/SPL have asked for OOFA to step? Well they are certainly testing the waters by sticking just a toe in it. Better than nothing though. Will be interesting to see the effect it has. And will the SFA dare to adopt the same approach... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boab Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 2 minutes ago, Spellczech said: I think she's already done it. Not sure there is a great deal more that Budge can do to sort out the idiots in our support... Next step surely has to be to try to stop the goons they try to imitate from rocking up at Tynecastle? If two people get out of line and only one is punished, it’s natural for the convicted one to think...wtf ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lovecraft Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 1 minute ago, Spellczech said: Well they are certainly testing the waters by sticking just a toe in it. Better than nothing though. Will be interesting to see the effect it has. And will the SFA dare to adopt the same approach... People at OOOFA don't need to shop at Iceland...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobNox Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 2 minutes ago, farin said: Im sure you’ll agree in this instance at least uefa are doing the right thing. Certainly far more than the Sfa have, who knows this might be a watershed moment. It certainly seems to have got them talking about what songs are or are not acceptable. Obviously, they are only referring to European games, where they seem to have realised they will have to tone it down. I fully expect them to be belting out their usual repertoire with even more gusto at domestic games as an act of defiance, knowing that the Scottish football authorities will do SFA about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lovecraft Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 (edited) 2 minutes ago, RobNox said: It certainly seems to have got them talking about what songs are or are not acceptable. Obviously, they are only referring to European games, where they seem to have realised they will have to tone it down. I fully expect them to be belting out their usual repertoire with even more gusto at domestic games as an act of defiance, knowing that the Scottish football authorities will do SFA about it. No chance. No surrender. They will blast out their songs louder than usual on Thursday. 10000000000000000000% No surrender. I will put cash on it. Edited August 23, 2019 by Lovecraft Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor FinnBarr Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 2 minutes ago, RobNox said: It certainly seems to have got them talking about what songs are or are not acceptable. Obviously, they are only referring to European games, where they seem to have realised they will have to tone it down. I fully expect them to be belting out their usual repertoire with even more gusto at domestic games as an act of defiance, knowing that the Scottish football authorities will do SFA about it. 100% right Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lovecraft Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 1 minute ago, FinnBarr Saunders said: 100% right They will do it on Thursday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lovecraft Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 Possibly even a really cheap banner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor FinnBarr Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 5 minutes ago, Lovecraft said: They will do it on Thursday. Without a doubt 4 minutes ago, Lovecraft said: Possibly even a really cheap banner Made by Green brigade.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spellczech Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 3 minutes ago, Boab said: If two people get out of line and only one is punished, it’s natural for the convicted one to think...wtf ? Not sure the innocents worry too much about the sense of inequality of justice felt by one transgressor vis another...The concept of state's evidence shows that one conviction is better than none. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobNox Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 8 minutes ago, Lovecraft said: No chance. No surrender. They will blast out their songs louder than usual on Thursday. 10000000000000000000% No surrender. I will put cash on it. That's 10 billion billion percent! You are certainly confident Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Footballfirst Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 6 minutes ago, Lovecraft said: They will do it on Thursday. If Legia look like going through, then I think that it's a certainty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lovecraft Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 Just now, Footballfirst said: If Legia look like going through, then I think that it's a certainty. if Legia win on Thursday. That is Rangers v2 done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor FinnBarr Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 1 minute ago, Footballfirst said: If Legia look like going through, then I think that it's a certainty. If (the) Rangers look like going through it'll happen too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lovecraft Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 2 minutes ago, RobNox said: That's 10 billion billion percent! You are certainly confident Might be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boab Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 4 minutes ago, Spellczech said: Not sure the innocents worry too much about the sense of inequality of justice felt by one transgressor vis another...The concept of state's evidence shows that one conviction is better than none. In the tribal world of football, i’m not sure that applies ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lovecraft Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 1 minute ago, FinnBarr Saunders said: If (the) Rangers look like going through it'll happen too Legia were ok, but they have the away goal rule if they can get it. Sadly, Rangers have a good team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spellczech Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 46 minutes ago, Boab said: In the tribal world of football, i’m not sure that applies ! True but would you say our bigots are better than their bigots just because they support Hearts? If anything I regard those that shame the club we support as being lower than those that shame Rangers or Celtic as I don't care for the reputations of the OF... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ToqueJambo Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 From the bottom of the BBC story on this: "The Scottish FA and Scottish Professional Football League have declined to comment." Says it all really. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobNox Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 1 hour ago, Lovecraft said: if Legia win on Thursday. That is Rangers v2 done. Yes, their business model largely depends on them getting to EL group stages to get anywhere near to breaking even. If they get pumped out by Legia, they will have a major cashflow problem to overcome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mysterion Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 (edited) 6 hours ago, farin said: Its all Kilmarnock's fault for reporting them in the 1st place. 😊 Edited - I read it was a Norwegian Uefa delegate originally. Wouldn’t be surprising if they tried to blame others. Edited August 24, 2019 by Mysterion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bainy Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 17 hours ago, Paris 84 said: Surely the corner where the Union Bears sit would be the obvious place to shut. 0 chance of that. As with the green brigade the clubs are scared of them. They have too much influence. Even though it's most likely to be them that will be the cause Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deevers Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 17 hours ago, Jambof3tornado said: The SFA and SPFL have declined to comment. No wonder bigotry is still rife! Exactly - the SFA have match delegates at all games. The ones that attend games involving the Old Firm must be deaf and blind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
been here before Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 (edited) 18 hours ago, Paris 84 said: Surely the corner where the Union Bears sit would be the obvious place to shut. 19 minutes ago, Bainy said: 0 chance of that. As with the green brigade the clubs are scared of them. They have too much influence. Even though it's most likely to be them that will be the cause According to the level headed denizens of the Berrrrrs Den BF1, CD6 and CD7 are being closed with some of the animals being relocated. From reading between the froth I think the UB inhabit one of those areas. Oh aye and its a fenian conspiracy. Edited August 24, 2019 by been here before Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambof3tornado Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 7 hours ago, farin said: Its all Kilmarnock's fault for reporting them in the 1st place. 😊 A "who are these people" moment!! Garry o hagan as in former hibs board member etc? Poor *******, hope he has sturdy windows whether true or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarah O Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 Quote "We've got one of the best fan bases in the world. They follow us in large numbers home and away and they have got a reputation for being the best supporters in the world." - Steven Gerrard - https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/49451649 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackford Hearts Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 (edited) Some fans, as well as clearly Gerrard (who attended Cardinal Herman Catholic High School) so may find this personally tiresome, seem to be taking it seriously. No need for the “even though it feels unfair” part, though this may be to appease the bigots and save the pub being trashed. Edited August 24, 2019 by Blackford Hearts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OBE Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 Steven Gerrard: Sectarian chants damage Rangers fans' reputation...Manchester... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sexton Hardcastle Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 (edited) I thought our twitter boiz were idiots but rangers lot are just next level and then some. How it’s a conspiracy, the problem is not just theirs and the media are blaming them for snp failure, Celtic can write naughty banners etc Imagine being pals or family with these types. Would be tanning your wrists. Edited August 24, 2019 by Sexton Hardcastle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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