JamboJimmyB Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 Is it the club's policy to keep signing player after player in the hope that it will eventually work out. We have guys at the end of their careers signing long term contracts. Guys who have not kicked a ball for over a year and strikers who have failed to find the net for ages. Clearly the two existing goalkeepers are not good enough so let’s go out and borrow someone else’s. Berra is nearing the end of his career but has another two or three years to run. Naismith is now prone to injury and has another four years to run. We were told by the manager preseason he only wanted a few signings but here we are in August bringing another three guys in. Despite all the accolades of the youth set up there are no young players regularly in the team as the latest, Hickey will be left out for White. Guys like Cochrane will not feature because the management accept that they are not good enough or ready. Is it around 80 players in the last three or so seasons? Complete teams have come and gone in less than a couple of years, some players hardly kicked a ball before they were off. The club will have lost serious amounts of money on these deals. Not only the player’s salary but often they require accommodation, travel expenses, car, and agent’s fees, signing on fees and settlement payments when they leave. The real failure at the club has been the management's total inability to put together a first team squad capable of competing and adapting as an 'organised unit' within the scottish football environment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Jambo dans les Pyrenees Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 Here, here Lets not sign anyone, and instead ruin loads of kids who aren’t ready or good enough yet. I do get the underlying point you are trying to make but I don’t think too many other clubs in the top 5-6 will be that different? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Internet Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 The number of signings we make is pretty consistent with the teams around us. Hibs, Aberdeen etc have made a similar number of signings to us over the last few years. All of them will have had successes and failures. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambo_4_eva Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 4 minutes ago, JamboJimmyB said: Is it the club's policy to keep signing player after player in the hope that it will eventually work out. We have guys at the end of their careers signing long term contracts. Guys who have not kicked a ball for over a year and strikers who have failed to find the net for ages. Clearly the two existing goalkeepers are not good enough so let’s go out and borrow someone else’s. Berra is nearing the end of his career but has another two or three years to run. Naismith is now prone to injury and has another four years to run. We were told by the manager preseason he only wanted a few signings but here we are in August bringing another three guys in. Despite all the accolades of the youth set up there are no young players regularly in the team as the latest, Hickey will be left out for White. Guys like Cochrane will not feature because the management accept that they are not good enough or ready. Is it around 80 players in the last three or so seasons? Complete teams have come and gone in less than a couple of years, some players hardly kicked a ball before they were off. The club will have lost serious amounts of money on these deals. Not only the player’s salary but often they require accommodation, travel expenses, car, and agent’s fees, signing on fees and settlement payments when they leave. The real failure at the club has been the management's total inability to put together a first team squad capable of competing and adapting as an 'organised unit' within the scottish football environment. We'll probably get rid of a load of players too e.g. Olly Lee etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 Deja vu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo dans les Pyrenees Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 2 minutes ago, Mikey1874 said: Deja vu Subject to international clearance and a work permit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homme Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 8 minutes ago, Mikey1874 said: Deja vu Sure I've seen him before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 To put into any Context you'd need to Compare with other clubs in the top 6, say over a period of time, maybe 5 years. Otherwise such rants are just that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jammy T Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 (edited) 6 years ago we operated under a transfer ban 5 years ago we were broke and our academy had been ****ed over 4 years ago we had just been promoted and were a bit better off 3 years ago we had started building a stand but were still a bit better off than the previous year 2 years ago we had nearly finished the stand which was over budget but we were doing ok financially 1 year ago the new stand was operational. We had a bit more money and increased capacity and hospitality. This summer nearly all stand works are finished, hospitality is maximised and we turned over the largest amount of money in our history. We have more money than last year and significantly more than 5, 4, or 3 years ago. With increased finance comes the opportunity to sign better players who cost more or retain players who have earned the right. Year on year, on balance, it can’t be denied that in general the quality of our players has increased incrementally. This summer we have signed some of the highest quality players we have signed in a decade or more. We also have young prospects and a core of the better players from last season tied up to longer deals. If people take the time to look at the bigger picture and where we were and where we are now, people would be absolutely raging if we hadn’t changed the squad from 2 years ago but each season we have signed who we could afford to sign and who was available and within our budget. Our risk reward ratio has swung from higher risk now to more likely reward due to our increased and better finances. I don’t see it as at all controversial (or a sign of failure) or anything other than a sign of a club that finds itself getting more wealthy year on year and can afford to replace failed signings and ok players with better more reliable players. Edited August 16, 2019 by Jammy T Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 Hibs are missing John McGinn, McGeoch, McNulty, Mark Milligan, Jamie McLaren, Danny Swanson, Hyndman, Bigirimana, Efe Ambrose. That is a big turnover. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jammy T Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 2 minutes ago, Mikey1874 said: Hibs are missing John McGinn, McGeoch, McNulty, Mark Milligan, Jamie McLaren, Danny Swanson, Hyndman, Bigirimana, Efe Ambrose. That is a big turnover. Hibs have been losing their better players. We have retained ours and added more quality to that core. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NaturalOrder74 Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 Hibs sold their talent to championship level teams and replaced them with English 4th their mince, we’ve signed experienced championship level players and just a matter of time till we get the tactics right and start winning games, hopefully get some inspiration tonight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alwaysthereinspirit Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 26 minutes ago, JamboJimmyB said: Is it the club's policy to keep signing player after player in the hope that it will eventually work out. We have guys at the end of their careers signing long term contracts. Guys who have not kicked a ball for over a year and strikers who have failed to find the net for ages. Clearly the two existing goalkeepers are not good enough so let’s go out and borrow someone else’s. Berra is nearing the end of his career but has another two or three years to run. Naismith is now prone to injury and has another four years to run. We were told by the manager preseason he only wanted a few signings but here we are in August bringing another three guys in. Despite all the accolades of the youth set up there are no young players regularly in the team as the latest, Hickey will be left out for White. Guys like Cochrane will not feature because the management accept that they are not good enough or ready. Is it around 80 players in the last three or so seasons? Complete teams have come and gone in less than a couple of years, some players hardly kicked a ball before they were off. The club will have lost serious amounts of money on these deals. Not only the player’s salary but often they require accommodation, travel expenses, car, and agent’s fees, signing on fees and settlement payments when they leave. The real failure at the club has been the management's total inability to put together a first team squad capable of competing and adapting as an 'organised unit' within the scottish football environment. No. I think the words you are looking for are EXCEPTIONAL TALENT. Oh and you're so obvious I can smell $#!t from 3000 miles away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alwaysthereinspirit Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 15 minutes ago, Homme said: Sure I've seen him before. Players like him come around all the time. Not even worth thinking about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leveins Battalion Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 Has anybody listened to Craig Levein?He said there would be a major overhaul of players last summer,this club was on its knees with the old stand. We've built that infrastructure now for us to progress,the last few years have been absolute torture but we had to go through this.I have critised Levein many times on here,but purely out of frustration and love for Hearts. Anybody moaning about Pereira,Halkett,Whelan,Damour,Washington,Walker and Meshino should maybe stop following football. Good times are coming. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minturn Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 1 hour ago, Mikey1874 said: Deja vu Oh he's from the PSG academy right? Saw his youtube highlights and he's dead on star. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blacky87 Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 aye lets keep playing sh1te and not try rectify that issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Absolute Scenes Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 (edited) It’s a shame Hibs have no money left it’s bringing them all here Edited August 16, 2019 by Absolute Scenes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobNox Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 1 hour ago, Minturn said: Oh he's from the PSG academy right? Saw his youtube highlights and he's dead on star. That's the guy. He reminded me of someone else, can't think who though! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ToqueJambo Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 3 hours ago, JamboJimmyB said: Is it the club's policy to keep signing player after player in the hope that it will eventually work out. We have guys at the end of their careers signing long term contracts. Guys who have not kicked a ball for over a year and strikers who have failed to find the net for ages. Clearly the two existing goalkeepers are not good enough so let’s go out and borrow someone else’s. Berra is nearing the end of his career but has another two or three years to run. Naismith is now prone to injury and has another four years to run. We were told by the manager preseason he only wanted a few signings but here we are in August bringing another three guys in. Despite all the accolades of the youth set up there are no young players regularly in the team as the latest, Hickey will be left out for White. Guys like Cochrane will not feature because the management accept that they are not good enough or ready. Is it around 80 players in the last three or so seasons? Complete teams have come and gone in less than a couple of years, some players hardly kicked a ball before they were off. The club will have lost serious amounts of money on these deals. Not only the player’s salary but often they require accommodation, travel expenses, car, and agent’s fees, signing on fees and settlement payments when they leave. The real failure at the club has been the management's total inability to put together a first team squad capable of competing and adapting as an 'organised unit' within the scottish football environment. Quite right. We should spend 350,000 on a League One striker instead. Hickey and Irving starting tonight and looking decent by the way. We remain the best club in the league at giving young players chances. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 2 hours ago, Blacky87 said: aye lets keep playing sh1te and not try rectify that issue. It's one option Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCrae Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 4 hours ago, JamboJimmyB said: Is it the club's policy to keep signing player after player in the hope that it will eventually work out. We have guys at the end of their careers signing long term contracts. Guys who have not kicked a ball for over a year and strikers who have failed to find the net for ages. Clearly the two existing goalkeepers are not good enough so let’s go out and borrow someone else’s. Berra is nearing the end of his career but has another two or three years to run. Naismith is now prone to injury and has another four years to run. We were told by the manager preseason he only wanted a few signings but here we are in August bringing another three guys in. Despite all the accolades of the youth set up there are no young players regularly in the team as the latest, Hickey will be left out for White. Guys like Cochrane will not feature because the management accept that they are not good enough or ready. Is it around 80 players in the last three or so seasons? Complete teams have come and gone in less than a couple of years, some players hardly kicked a ball before they were off. The club will have lost serious amounts of money on these deals. Not only the player’s salary but often they require accommodation, travel expenses, car, and agent’s fees, signing on fees and settlement payments when they leave. The real failure at the club has been the management's total inability to put together a first team squad capable of competing and adapting as an 'organised unit' within the scottish football environment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramagio87 Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 4 hours ago, JamboJimmyB said: Is it the club's policy to keep signing player after player in the hope that it will eventually work out. We have guys at the end of their careers signing long term contracts. Guys who have not kicked a ball for over a year and strikers who have failed to find the net for ages. Clearly the two existing goalkeepers are not good enough so let’s go out and borrow someone else’s. Berra is nearing the end of his career but has another two or three years to run. Naismith is now prone to injury and has another four years to run. We were told by the manager preseason he only wanted a few signings but here we are in August bringing another three guys in. Despite all the accolades of the youth set up there are no young players regularly in the team as the latest, Hickey will be left out for White. Guys like Cochrane will not feature because the management accept that they are not good enough or ready. Is it around 80 players in the last three or so seasons? Complete teams have come and gone in less than a couple of years, some players hardly kicked a ball before they were off. The club will have lost serious amounts of money on these deals. Not only the player’s salary but often they require accommodation, travel expenses, car, and agent’s fees, signing on fees and settlement payments when they leave. The real failure at the club has been the management's total inability to put together a first team squad capable of competing and adapting as an 'organised unit' within the scottish football environment. Really? 🤦♂️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XB52 Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 4 hours ago, JamboJimmyB said: Is it the club's policy to keep signing player after player in the hope that it will eventually work out. We have guys at the end of their careers signing long term contracts. Guys who have not kicked a ball for over a year and strikers who have failed to find the net for ages. Clearly the two existing goalkeepers are not good enough so let’s go out and borrow someone else’s. Berra is nearing the end of his career but has another two or three years to run. Naismith is now prone to injury and has another four years to run. We were told by the manager preseason he only wanted a few signings but here we are in August bringing another three guys in. Despite all the accolades of the youth set up there are no young players regularly in the team as the latest, Hickey will be left out for White. Guys like Cochrane will not feature because the management accept that they are not good enough or ready. Is it around 80 players in the last three or so seasons? Complete teams have come and gone in less than a couple of years, some players hardly kicked a ball before they were off. The club will have lost serious amounts of money on these deals. Not only the player’s salary but often they require accommodation, travel expenses, car, and agent’s fees, signing on fees and settlement payments when they leave. The real failure at the club has been the management's total inability to put together a first team squad capable of competing and adapting as an 'organised unit' within the scottish football environment. FTH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 Washington is a good signing. Mulraney was a good signing. Early signs are good for White, Damour and Perriera. Hickey last year from Celtic. Anyone want to question that? Michael Smith decent signing too. Overall its looking promising. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blacky87 Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 28 minutes ago, Mikey1874 said: It's one option True! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big-jambo Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 5 hours ago, JamboJimmyB said: Is it the club's policy to keep signing player after player in the hope that it will eventually work out. We have guys at the end of their careers signing long term contracts. Guys who have not kicked a ball for over a year and strikers who have failed to find the net for ages. Clearly the two existing goalkeepers are not good enough so let’s go out and borrow someone else’s. Berra is nearing the end of his career but has another two or three years to run. Naismith is now prone to injury and has another four years to run. We were told by the manager preseason he only wanted a few signings but here we are in August bringing another three guys in. Despite all the accolades of the youth set up there are no young players regularly in the team as the latest, Hickey will be left out for White. Guys like Cochrane will not feature because the management accept that they are not good enough or ready. Is it around 80 players in the last three or so seasons? Complete teams have come and gone in less than a couple of years, some players hardly kicked a ball before they were off. The club will have lost serious amounts of money on these deals. Not only the player’s salary but often they require accommodation, travel expenses, car, and agent’s fees, signing on fees and settlement payments when they leave. The real failure at the club has been the management's total inability to put together a first team squad capable of competing and adapting as an 'organised unit' within the scottish football environment. Call an ambulance - car crash of a post Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jr ewing Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 Chelsea have 40 players on loan. We have a long way to go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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