Meadows Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 She has certainly nailed her colours to the mast as far as signings go this window. She has taken flak on occasion but deserves great credit for backing Levein despite the grief ( and performances) . Anyone else see this window as somewhat monumental? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E6 Inc Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 The criticism of her is 99.99% around her not binning Levein. Shes done a fantastic job. Think this window is the start of us flexing a bit more signing power now that the stand is paid for. I also think this window shows that Levein does have some pretty good contacts, is well respected by clubs like the two Manchester clubs and he can sign players with decent pedigrees. We are lucky to have Budge and I think I speak for every Jambo when I say I hope this latest round of signings is a turning point for us in both the short and long term. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bull's-eye Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 Seems to me the communication is there so any manager in charge who retains trust will know if there's funds to bolster the squad. I don't think supporters realise how much Ann and Craig talk, the other label thrown at her is a lack of football knowledge. I'd like to bet that after being in charge for as long as she has, she now has a decent grasp of things. We're in great hands at the moment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pants Shaton Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 2 minutes ago, Noah Claypole said: Seems to me the communication is there so any manager in charge who retains trust will know if there's funds to bolster the squad. I don't think supporters realise how much Ann and Craig talk, the other label thrown at her is a lack of football knowledge. I'd like to bet that after being in charge for as long as she has, she now has a decent grasp of things. We're in great hands at the moment. I love the ‘lack of football knowledge’ line. Like (m)any of the male buffoons running Scottish clubs have great ‘football knowledge’ We are lucky to have her and, dare I say it on JKB, Levein. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DH1986 Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 (edited) Ann Budge has without doubt done a fantastic job. Yes....some errors of judgement have made along the way, a few mistakes have been made and I’ve no doubt she’d admit that herself. She isn’t perfect and as each season and individual project passes she’ll know herself where she went right and wrong. The day Ann Budge leaves this club I have no doubt we’ll be in probably the most secure position the club has been in its entire history. We may not have added much to silverware to the cabinet but that cannot be a measure of her success......apart from one decade our trophy haul has hardly been regular and with the money gap between us and the OF its as difficult as it’s ever been to win. Edited August 16, 2019 by DH1986 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GorgieFifeLife Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 Great job she has done but it is very nearly time to give Levein the bullet if he doesn't turn things quick. Will she have the balls for it though? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GorgieRules22 Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 She does a great job and we’re lucky to have her.....However her friendship with Craig Levein can be the only reason as to why he’s still on a job. Not a good situation as football matters at the club have falling off a cliff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamboAl Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 5 minutes ago, GorgieFifeLife said: Great job she has done but it is very nearly time to give Levein the bullet if he doesn't turn things quick. Will she have the balls for it though? Just a matter of time before they get started to ruin yet another thread! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fila Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 She is backing him all the way , if it doesnt go well , I would expect him away by Christmas. Hopefully by then tho, we will be doing well and everyone will be signing his praises .............. to be continued Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Treasurer Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 The manager has been fully backed by the board, if the manager fails to deliver this season, the board will take action. There is no doubt about that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boag1874 Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 Put it this way, would you rather have Mrs Budge in charge or some vulture like Peruvian Ron/Mike Ashley. In my entire life the club has never been so well run and the rewards are just about starting to show with the quality acquisitions we’ve made this window. As has been said she couldn’t have backed Craig any more so its now fully on him to get his act together and sort it out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamboAl Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 2 minutes ago, boag1874 said: Put it this way, would you rather have Mrs Budge in charge or some vulture like Peruvian Ron/Mike Ashley. In my entire life the club has never been so well run and the rewards are just about starting to show with the quality acquisitions we’ve made this window. As has been said she couldn’t have backed Craig any more so its now fully on him to get his act together and sort it out. Ann Budge has done a tremendous job no matter whether the manager was CL, Neilson or Cathro. The club is in good hands after nearly dying. I cannot understand why people wish to ruin every thread. It seems like it's deliberate and orchestrated. Mods please Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamboozy Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 6 minutes ago, boag1874 said: Put it this way, would you rather have Mrs Budge in charge or some vulture like Peruvian Ron/Mike Ashley. In my entire life the club has never been so well run and the rewards are just about starting to show with the quality acquisitions we’ve made this window. As has been said she couldn’t have backed Craig any more so its now fully on him to get his act together and sort it out. Saved me typing, well said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur Morgan Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 13 minutes ago, The Treasurer said: The manager has been fully backed by the board, if the manager fails to deliver this season, the board will take action. There is no doubt about that I hope it doesn't come to that and that he can turn things around, he has no excuses now after this window. Last chance saloon imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Maroonblood Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 2 minutes ago, JamboAl said: Ann Budge has done a tremendous job no matter whether the manager was CL, Neilson or Cathro. The club is in good hands after nearly dying. I cannot understand why people wish to ruin every thread. It seems like it's deliberate and orchestrated. Mods please There’s no doubt Ann has done a fantastic job but.................😀 Is that allowed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martoon Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 A thread with balanced posts and good points by all. Hope I don't spoil it. Ann has been fantastic for the club. As important a figure in our history as anyone else. Our survival, the decision to keep us at Tynecastle and the rebuild of the main stand is as huge a contribution as any of our legendary players and managers. Craig, too, has made a wonderful contribution to HMFC in different capacities over various spells in the last 36 years. A long association that deserves the respect and high esteem that he is generally held in. I do believe Craig's time as a front line coach has ended but as a figurehead, negotiator, overseer of the Academy etc. he has so much still to give. The club is in great hands. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingantti1874 Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 (edited) Agreed, off the pitch it has been a revolution, which has enabled an unprecedented level of backing on it she does have a weakness for Craig, I understand it, he not just a manager he’s been a massive part of the rebuilding of the club, however any other incumbent would have gone by now as it hasn’t been good enough on the pitch - much as I have my doubts, I’ll be staying silent and giving this team a chance to succeed. on paper we should finish 3rd.. no excuses any more Edited August 16, 2019 by kingantti1874 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamboelite Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, E6 Inc said: The criticism of her is 99.99% around her not binning Levein. Shes done a fantastic job. Think this window is the start of us flexing a bit more signing power now that the stand is paid for. I also think this window shows that Levein does have some pretty good contacts, is well respected by clubs like the two Manchester clubs and he can sign players with decent pedigrees. We are lucky to have Budge and I think I speak for every Jambo when I say I hope this latest round of signings is a turning point for us in both the short and long term. I agree with all of that but....... Levein could do that job without managing the first team as this for me is the flaw, as i dont think he is good enough in that role. Academy, and contacts yes first team no. AB has been unbelievable for Hearts, this club will look back on her as one of our best ever custodians. However i hope CL turns it around obviously. Edited August 16, 2019 by Jamboelite Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Maroonblood Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 1 minute ago, kingantti1874 said: Agreed, off the pitch it has been a revolution, which has enabled an unprecedented level of backing.. she does have a weakness for Craig, I understand it.. any other incumbent would have gone by now but much as I have my doubts, I’ll be staying silent and giving this team a chance to succeed. on paper we should finish 3rd.. no excuses You better stay silent or the thread police will get you told or reported. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I.T.K Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 2 minutes ago, JamboAl said: Ann Budge has done a tremendous job no matter whether the manager was CL, Neilson or Cathro. The club is in good hands after nearly dying. I cannot understand why people wish to ruin every thread. It seems like it's deliberate and orchestrated. Mods please Agreed. I cant think of a better CEO in football. We turned over 15 million last season. That's a record number. I admit I'm frustrated with performances on the park, but I'm still very optimistic about our future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 1 hour ago, Pants Shaton said: I love the ‘lack of football knowledge’ line. Like (m)any of the male buffoons running Scottish clubs have great ‘football knowledge’ We are lucky to have her and, dare I say it on JKB, Levein. 👍 33 minutes ago, fila said: She is backing him all the way , if it doesnt go well , I would expect him away by Christmas. Hopefully by then tho, we will be doing well and everyone will be signing his praises .............. to be continued 👍 28 minutes ago, The Treasurer said: The manager has been fully backed by the board, if the manager fails to deliver this season, the board will take action. There is no doubt about that 👍 22 minutes ago, boag1874 said: Put it this way, would you rather have Mrs Budge in charge or some vulture like Peruvian Ron/Mike Ashley. In my entire life the club has never been so well run and the rewards are just about starting to show with the quality acquisitions we’ve made this window. As has been said she couldn’t have backed Craig any more so its now fully on him to get his act together and sort it out. 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I.T.K Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 4 minutes ago, kingantti1874 said: Agreed, off the pitch it has been a revolution, which has enabled an unprecedented level of backing on it she does have a weakness for Craig, I understand it, he not just a manager he’s been a massive part of the rebuilding of the club, however any other incumbent would have gone by now as it hasn’t been good enough on the pitch - much as I have my doubts, I’ll be staying silent and giving this team a chance to succeed. on paper we should finish 3rd.. no excuses any more I agree the work Craig has done with her makes this situation hard. But it seems the board are questioning him and I'm sure he knows hes been backed and if he does not deliver..... he knows what he needs to do. But I would argue that on paper we should finish about 4th. Aberdeen are paying about 20% more wages. And we only pay a little more then Hibs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E6 Inc Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 Just now, Jamboelite said: I agree with all of that but....... Levein could do that job without managing the first team as their is the flaw because i dont think he is good enough. I actually totally agree. An ideal set up for me would be Levein as DoF, where he would be tasked full time with bringing in better players and making sure out academy is top class. And then a first team manager with complete autonomy over the first team. He would be of course heavily involved in transfers. Bring someone in from the continent and that's how every club is set up. This saves us having guys ike Cathro brining in players that the next manager cant work with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 10 minutes ago, kingantti1874 said: Agreed, off the pitch it has been a revolution, which has enabled an unprecedented level of backing on it she does have a weakness for Craig, I understand it, he not just a manager he’s been a massive part of the rebuilding of the club, however any other incumbent would have gone by now as it hasn’t been good enough on the pitch - much as I have my doubts, I’ll be staying silent and giving this team a chance to succeed. on paper we should finish 3rd.. no excuses any more Don't agree with your last statement. Aberdeen will still think they can be third, but we should be close. 6th is poor. On JKB, we often dismiss the opposition far too easily. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwidoug Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 AB is nothing short of sensational. Surely she will be on the Queens Birthday honours list soon. As for Levein, I will re-state that if we're still producing dire performances by the end of next month, he has to go. I earnestly hope that's not the case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingantti1874 Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 8 minutes ago, The Real Maroonblood said: You better stay silent or the thread police will get you told or reported. don’t joke, twice I’ve been banned from threads for defending the club. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamboelite Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 (edited) 3 minutes ago, E6 Inc said: I actually totally agree. An ideal set up for me would be Levein as DoF, where he would be tasked full time with bringing in better players and making sure out academy is top class. And then a first team manager with complete autonomy over the first team. He would be of course heavily involved in transfers. Bring someone in from the continent and that's how every club is set up. This saves us having guys ike Cathro brining in players that the next manager cant work with. Agreed, but while Craig is there i hope he delivers, he has done alot for this club and at times is under appreciated. I think his work in the Academy will be huge over time. Edited August 16, 2019 by Jamboelite Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DG_HMFC Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 Ann Budge is the best thing to ever happen at our club. The job she has done in building the business and growing our reputation overseas shouldn't be underestimated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E6 Inc Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 Just now, Jamboelite said: Agreed but while Craig is there i hope he delivers he has done alot for this club and at times is under appreciated. I think his work in the Academy will be huge over time. Yup and I hope he gets to finish his plan for the whole of the footballing set up. Unfortunately I don't think he should be managing the first team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingantti1874 Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 Just now, Smith's right boot said: Don't agree with your last statement. Aberdeen will still think they can be third, but we should be close. 6th is poor. On JKB, we often dismiss the opposition far too easily. They don’t have better players IMO, they do have a guy getting goals regularly on cosgrove but that aside they are average.. when we got somewhere close to our strongest 11 on against them at pitrodrie we were the better team, we lost due to 2 moments of carelessness from hickey and CLS I’d, we have strengthened significantly since then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 She has done as much as she can for him so it's very much up to Levein to make a success of what it is a very good squad. Levein is a clever one. I think he knew he was under pressure from the very start this season. If it didn't start well then he was under severe pressure. I think he held back the wherewithal to make a few extra signings as a contingency. Try to make a good start with what he had... if it went poorly then make a few more signings to buy a bit more time. Like two bites at the cherry. Ann Budge has backed him snd I think she will have told him that she has backed him to a extensive degree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hercules Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 2 hours ago, Meadows said: She has certainly nailed her colours to the mast as far as signings go this window. She has taken flak on occasion but deserves great credit for backing Levein despite the grief ( and performances) . Anyone else see this window as somewhat monumental? I certainly wouldn’t use the word monumental. We’ve got a keeper on a panic loan as Levein is the only one who thought our keepers weren’t shite. I honestly believe her friendship with Levein will taint her legacy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selkirkhmfc1874 Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 Said it many times we're very lucky to have Mrs Budge Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 (edited) 4 minutes ago, kingantti1874 said: They don’t have better players IMO, they do have a guy getting goals regularly on cosgrove but that aside they are average.. when we got somewhere close to our strongest 11 on against them at pitrodrie we were the better team, we lost due to 2 moments of carelessness from hickey and CLS I’d, we have strengthened significantly since then. Aberdeen were not at thier strongest either. Although exciting, Many of our players are unproven at this point as well. Whatever, tho- 3rd isn't a given. Aberdeen still spend more than us. I think we will end up 3rd, but the " no excuses" comment isn't true imo. Edited August 16, 2019 by Smith's right boot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GorgieFifeLife Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 41 minutes ago, JamboAl said: Just a matter of time before they get started to ruin yet another thread! It's the nearly extinct fanboys who are ruining the threads! I'm just making the point that she will have a tough decision to make if things dont improve and she will have to show she is able for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fabienleclerq Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 She's backed the manager big time, he has a squad capable of third place. After watching Aberdeen they aren't as strong as they were and we have still to get started. We are so lucky to have her in charge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingantti1874 Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 4 minutes ago, Smith's right boot said: Aberdeen were not at thier strongest either. Although exciting, Many of our players are unproven at this point as well. Whatever, tho- 3rd isn't a given. Aberdeen still spend more than us. I think we will end up 3rd, but the " no excuses" comment isn't true imo. I would be very surprised if they are still spending more than us. They will have no one in their squad on a higher wage than naisy or Whelan.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadj Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 9 minutes ago, kingantti1874 said: They don’t have better players IMO, they do have a guy getting goals regularly on cosgrove but that aside they are average.. when we got somewhere close to our strongest 11 on against them at pitrodrie we were the better team, we lost due to 2 moments of carelessness from hickey and CLS I’d, we have strengthened significantly since then. Is Cosgrove not injured? I agree they don’t have better players. First XI and subs when fully fit and performing its Rangers and Celtic by miles then ourselves then a behind that Aberdeen. A lot of that is due to the huge advancement in Turnover on the back of Ann’s reign and the job she has done across the board has been nothing short of brilliant for the club and its future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 1 minute ago, kingantti1874 said: I would be very surprised if they are still spending more than us. They will have no one in their squad on a higher wage than naisy or Whelan.. I can't confirm that, 3rd will be difficult, but I think 70 points would do it, we should be capable of that. "No excuses" , is a bit much tho, imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil D. Corners Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 (edited) 7 minutes ago, kingantti1874 said: I would be very surprised if they are still spending more than us. They will have no one in their squad on a higher wage than naisy or Whelan.. I would say year on year we are getting closer thanks to Ann. I’ve been told we spend a significant part of wages investing in the youth team. Edited August 16, 2019 by Phil D. Corners Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prof Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 2 hours ago, Noah Claypole said: don't think supporters realise how much Ann and Craig talk, the other label thrown at her is a lack of football knowledge. Most supporters think they are expert tacticians .AB has been a supporter for a long time and as such will have as much football knowledge as anybody else sitting in the stands. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meadows Posted August 16, 2019 Author Share Posted August 16, 2019 The season can only really go onwards and upwards , highest league finish in years . OR Status Quo and we get a new manager and coaching staff . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boab Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 17 minutes ago, Prof said: Most supporters think they are expert tacticians .AB has been a supporter for a long time and as such will have as much football knowledge as anybody else sitting in the stands. Mmmmm......maybe ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinmaroon Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 1 hour ago, JamboAl said: Just a matter of time before they get started to ruin yet another thread! I nearly fainted as I got to the dizzying heights of the first posts on this thread before I looked down and saw there was still shit on my shoe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Walker Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 37 minutes ago, E6 Inc said: Yup and I hope he gets to finish his plan for the whole of the footballing set up. Unfortunately I don't think he should be managing the first team. Maybe he doesn't want to be coaching and would rather be back as DoF only...especially given health concerns. I'd like to think the issue that CL and AB are quietly dealing with is who takes over at the end of the season... doing it in an orderly way rather than grabbing what's available now to appease a section of the fanbase... which has, perhaps, a shorter timeframe in mind and maybe not seeing a bigger picture. Onup TW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boab Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 2 minutes ago, Tommy Walker said: Maybe he doesn't want to be coaching and would rather be back as DoF only...especially given health concerns. I'd like to think the issue that CL and AB are quietly dealing with is who takes over at the end of the season... doing it in an orderly way rather than grabbing what's available now to appease a section of the fanbase... which has, perhaps, a shorter timeframe in mind and maybe not seeing a bigger picture. Onup TW Yip. I think if it’s looking like we will improve our league position this season, he’ll see out his last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dallas Green Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 It's been a very good window so far. Can't say she doesn't back her football staff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwidoug Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 3 minutes ago, Dallas Green said: It's been a very good window so far. Can't say she doesn't back her football staff. Time they started backing her though. Other than a few minutes against Aberdeen, we have had a shocking start to the season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Byyy The Light Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 12 minutes ago, Tommy Walker said: Maybe he doesn't want to be coaching and would rather be back as DoF only...especially given health concerns. I'd like to think the issue that CL and AB are quietly dealing with is who takes over at the end of the season... doing it in an orderly way rather than grabbing what's available now to appease a section of the fanbase... which has, perhaps, a shorter timeframe in mind and maybe not seeing a bigger picture. Onup TW Think you might be bang on the money with this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dallas Green Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 2 minutes ago, Kiwidoug said: Time they started backing her though. Other than a few minutes against Aberdeen, we have had a shocking start to the season. I'm sure it will all come good when we have finished our transfer business and the team starts to gel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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