TheBigO Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 3 minutes ago, BigAlim said: Do we reckon this lad would be our final signing allowing Naismith to play as our finisher? Got to think he'd be final signing unless someone we can't turn down gets offered to us. The way I see it he's another option. We've been so one dimensional. Having plans A, B and C would be great. Using Naismith, Washington and/or Uche to pull defenders around with this lad finding the gaps seems appealing. But we also have Walker, Mulraney and Clare who are all different types of player. And Irving, and Cochrane. This all assuming Damour and Whelan are our mainstays. Of the front 6, I'd suggest Whelan, Damour, Washington and Naismith all play when fit. That leaves 2 places up for grabs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
combo74 Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 26 minutes ago, Governor Tarkin said: I thought so, but I was curious as to how far I could push the casual racism before I got collared by the Kickback plod. 'Not very' being the answer. That’s not like you Tarkin 😏 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Governor Tarkin Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 I can't help that the absurdity of cultural stereotypes and sweeping generalisations tickles my funnybones, combo74. Now wind you neck in, or it'll be round the back of the Wheatfield for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sagan Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 59 minutes ago, BigAlim said: Do we reckon this lad would be our final signing allowing Naismith to play as our finisher? Who knows, Maybe Levein realises this is his last season and is emptying the bank account Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pans Jambo Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 Whats the ITK’ers position on this one then? Theyve been A, too quiet and B, too friendly with each other recently. I prefer a pagger. Who knows what and who’s calling out the other on it??? Mon lads! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCrae Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 52 minutes ago, TheBigO said: Got to think he'd be final signing unless someone we can't turn down gets offered to us. The way I see it he's another option. We've been so one dimensional. Having plans A, B and C would be great. Using Naismith, Washington and/or Uche to pull defenders around with this lad finding the gaps seems appealing. But we also have Walker, Mulraney and Clare who are all different types of player. And Irving, and Cochrane. This all assuming Damour and Whelan are our mainstays. Of the front 6, I'd suggest Whelan, Damour, Washington and Naismith all play when fit. That leaves 2 places up for grabs. I think our main problem has been midfield. If you can dominate the midfield the game is won. I think we now have the players in midfield to do very well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DesertDawg Posted August 14, 2019 Author Share Posted August 14, 2019 2 hours ago, E6 Inc said: Perfect, cheers mate! Will try to head there for the Rangers game. Happy to help. I knew the original owner well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agentjambo Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 Does anyone know if this deal is done pending a permit or still just being spoken about? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamboinglasgow Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 Have Hearts ever had a player from the far east? I cant recall any (only that Ahn Jung-Hwan was one of the two world cup players that Romanov promised but never came.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tokyohearts Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 2 hours ago, indianajones said: Big stadium! What sort of crowds do you get? Did you see much of Juanma when he went over to J2? Gamba Osaka crowd average around 30,000 or so. Pretty good by J-League standards. I knew Juanma came to J2 but haven’t seem him in flesh as I lived in Tokyo and only attended away J1 Gamba games. Type of football played in Scotland and Japan are diametrically opposed. Which actually might be a good thing as an attacking player, since I doubt Hamilton and Motherwell defenders have ever faced off with players like him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemclaren Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 2 minutes ago, jamboinglasgow said: Have Hearts ever had a player from the far east? I cant recall any (only that Ahn Jung-Hwan was one of the two world cup players that Romanov promised but never came.) Not in my lifetime. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deek Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 14 minutes ago, davemclaren said: Not in my lifetime. Not since the end of WW2 then Dave . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Beni of Gorgie Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 59 minutes ago, Pans Jambo said: Whats the ITK’ers position on this one then? Theyve been A, too quiet and B, too friendly with each other recently. I prefer a pagger. Who knows what and who’s calling out the other on it??? Mon lads! You would have to be issuing a work permit to be in on this one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milky_26 Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 4 minutes ago, Deek said: Not since the end of WW1 then Dave . ftfy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PTBCAL Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 1 hour ago, Pans Jambo said: Whats the ITK’ers position on this one then? Theyve been A, too quiet and B, too friendly with each other recently. I prefer a pagger. Who knows what and who’s calling out the other on it??? Mon lads! Pagger you say 🤭 im in..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemclaren Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 24 minutes ago, Deek said: Not since the end of WW2 then Dave . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemclaren Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 21 minutes ago, milky_26 said: ftfy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toxteth O'Grady Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 Sorry if it is already covered but surely Man City will apply for his permit to work in the UK? He will be employed by them and on loan to us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hansel Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 1 minute ago, Toxteth O'Grady said: Sorry if it is already covered but surely Man City will apply for his permit to work in the UK? He will be employed by them and on loan to us. That's what I thought, but then i saw someone had post that it needs to be an application via the football association. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Notts1874 Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 2 hours ago, Pans Jambo said: Whats the ITK’ers position on this one then? Theyve been A, too quiet and B, too friendly with each other recently. I prefer a pagger. Who knows what and who’s calling out the other on it??? Mon lads! Where's the battle?😉 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Beni of Gorgie Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 2 hours ago, PTBCAL said: Pagger you say 🤭 im in..... Previous Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iainmac Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 3 hours ago, McCrae said: I think our main problem has been midfield. If you can dominate the midfield the game is won. I think we now have the players in midfield to do very well. Nay , nay & thrice nay! Possession stats mean hee-haw if you can't stick the ball in the other team's net. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCrae Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 11 minutes ago, iainmac said: Nay , nay & thrice nay! Possession stats mean hee-haw if you can't stick the ball in the other team's net. I agree, but you have to win the ball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingantti1874 Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 Daily record twitter saying this is all agreed pending work permit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJGJ Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-transfer-news/ryotaro-meshino-transfer-latest-hearts-18936425 Hearts have applied for a work permit to sign Ryotaro Meshino on-loan from Manchester City. Meshino – who took in the Jambos' weekend draw with Ross County - joined the English champions from J-League side Gamba Osaka earlier this month. City boss Pep Guardiola doesn’t think he is ready for first-team action and wants him to get him first-team exposure up in Scotland. Hearts have already agreed terms of the loan and now have to convince a work permit hearing that the Japanese midfielder would help enhance their squad. Meshino doesn’t meet current work permit criteria because he has still to be capped by Japan. City also believe that it would help the 21-year-old go to Hearts because their first-team coach Austin McPhee is also fluent in Japanese and that would also help him to settle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 3 minutes ago, CJGJ said: https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-transfer-news/ryotaro-meshino-transfer-latest-hearts-18936425 Hearts have applied for a work permit to sign Ryotaro Meshino on-loan from Manchester City. Meshino – who took in the Jambos' weekend draw with Ross County - joined the English champions from J-League side Gamba Osaka earlier this month. City boss Pep Guardiola doesn’t think he is ready for first-team action and wants him to get him first-team exposure up in Scotland. Hearts have already agreed terms of the loan and now have to convince a work permit hearing that the Japanese midfielder would help enhance their squad. Meshino doesn’t meet current work permit criteria because he has still to be capped by Japan. City also believe that it would help the 21-year-old go to Hearts because their first-team coach Austin McPhee is also fluent in Japanese and that would also help him to settle. Quality. This transfer window has been splendid. All come together soon. Someones gonna get it. Hamilton imo are going to be the victims. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown user Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 2 minutes ago, Smith's right boot said: Quality. This transfer window has been splendid. All come together soon. Someones gonna get it. Hamilton imo are going to be the victims. Hibs are getting it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whatever Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 If that was the Old Firm the language and tone would be very different. ****in rag. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gashauskis9 Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 Why do I get the feeling this will fall through? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2 Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 7 minutes ago, Gashauskis9 said: Why do I get the feeling this will fall through? "have to convince a work permit hearing that the Japanese midfielder would help enhance their squad", - that shouldn't prove too difficult. all they have to do is show the tape of the Ross County game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJGJ Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 Our last work permit application only failed as there was no majority This player has a far higher pedigree, signed by a major club for a large fee Given that I just can't see why it would be rejected Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Notts1874 Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 Provides a good insight into how these huge clubs work. They were looking at a loan deal for this boy before they even signed him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afanderson33 Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 There are a variety of reasons to give this boy a work permit, not least the exposure to the Far East market that's been lacking since Nakamura left Celtic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Governor Tarkin Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 1 minute ago, Notts1874 said: Provides a good insight into how these huge clubs work. But enough about Hearts... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruyff Turn Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 Delighted with this signing. I’m sure the panel with see the merits of this case. What a feckin squad we have btw. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1874 Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 7 hours ago, Meadows said: Sectarian post .. equivalent of what school did you go to in the west 😂 7 hours ago, Meadows said: Sectarian post .. equivalent of what school did you go to in the west 😂 🤣🤣🤣👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Notts1874 Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 2 minutes ago, Governor Tarkin said: But enough about Hearts... Good point 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Takis51 Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 Could be a great signing both on and off the park. Imagine the fan base/ interest he could possibly bring from Japan! £££ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamboinglasgow Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 Surely the fact he was just signed for approx £900k, so much more then we could ever pay to buy a player would put the case that he is an exceptional talent for our team. Anyone know how long it would take for a decision to be reached? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BackOfTheNet Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 (edited) 9 minutes ago, jamboinglasgow said: Surely the fact he was just signed for approx £900k, so much more then we could ever pay to buy a player would put the case that he is an exceptional talent for our team. Anyone know how long it would take for a decision to be reached? Decisions are same day I believe, unless further evidence of some sort is required. Usually there’s a presentation, documentary evidence and statements written and in person. On paper this should be a no brainer. They could point to Nombil and say “well you were 2-2 for a reserve player, this guy will be in the first team”. They can point to Douglas Luiz, who was not granted a permit for Man City due to Fernandinho but was awarded a permit for Villa in the same league due to him being able to utilise the permit. They can point to Celtic for numerous signings. They can simply say that Meshino has just signed for Man City, one of the biggest clubs in the world, at age 21. They can say he just signed for a fee which is larger than Hearts’ record outlay. Any one of those reasons should be enough for the permit. Quite honestly if a permit is not granted then there’s something else going on as there would be no logical reason to deny it. Edited August 14, 2019 by BackOfTheNet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnasher75 Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 20 minutes ago, jamboinglasgow said: Surely the fact he was just signed for approx £900k, so much more then we could ever pay to buy a player would put the case that he is an exceptional talent for our team. Anyone know how long it would take for a decision to be reached? Show them 5 minutes of the Ross County game and that should be enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamboinglasgow Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 19 minutes ago, BackOfTheNet said: Decisions are same day I believe, unless further evidence of some sort is required. Usually there’s a presentation, documentary evidence and statements written and in person. On paper this should be a no brainer. They could point to Nombil and say “well you were 2-2 for a reserve player, this guy will be in the first team”. They can point to Douglas Luiz, who was not granted a permit for Man City due to Fernandinho but was awarded a permit for Villa in the same league due to him being able to utilise the permit. They can point to Celtic for numerous signings. They can simply say that Meshino has just signed for Man City, one of the biggest clubs in the world, at age 21. They can say he just signed for a fee which is larger than Hearts’ record outlay. Any one of those reasons should be enough for the permit. Quite honestly if a permit is not granted then there’s something else going on as there would be no logical reason to deny it. Hopefully we dont have to wait long to know which way this will go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norm Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 I'm going to put a dampener on things. Folk seem awfy excited about this fella and the Man U lad. Let's be honest. If Levein had signed these lads based on their stats, not one person would be getting excited. A 21 year old keeper who's never played more than a handful of games a season for mid table Portuguese teams and a lad who's ripped up the Japanese 3rd tier. I'm not saying they'll be shite but let's face it, if we'd signed them direct from their previous clubs, folk would be raging at another of Levein's punts. The only difference here is that we're a testing ground for another team's punt. Percentage of their budget wise, I wouldn't be surprised if £900k is less to Man City than we spend on making programmes. I hope I'm wrong, I just think expectations need to be cooled somewhat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruyff Turn Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 Just now, Normthebarman said: I'm going to put a dampener on things. Folk seem awfy excited about this fella and the Man U lad. Let's be honest. If Levein had signed these lads based on their stats, not one person would be getting excited. A 21 year old keeper who's never played more than a handful of games a season for mid table Portuguese teams and a lad who's ripped up the Japanese 3rd tier. I'm not saying they'll be shite but let's face it, if we'd signed them direct from their previous clubs, folk would be raging at another of Levein's punts. The only difference here is that we're a testing ground for another team's punt. Percentage of their budget wise, I wouldn't be surprised if £900k is less to Man City than we spend on making programmes. I hope I'm wrong, I just think expectations need to be cooled somewhat. You miserable *******. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1971fozzy Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 25 minutes ago, gnasher75 said: Show them 5 minutes of the Ross County game and that should be enough. and the fact he watched it as well and willing to come . in all seriousness should be an easy decision. Really excited by him coming and I’m not a fan of loan deals but he is exactly what we need Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norm Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 Just now, Cruyff Turn said: You miserable *******. Sorry! I'm normally a positive ***** too! I just have this horrible feeling we're signing the Portuguese Jack Hamilton and the Japanese Callum Morrison! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1971fozzy Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 3 minutes ago, Normthebarman said: I'm going to put a dampener on things. Folk seem awfy excited about this fella and the Man U lad. Let's be honest. If Levein had signed these lads based on their stats, not one person would be getting excited. A 21 year old keeper who's never played more than a handful of games a season for mid table Portuguese teams and a lad who's ripped up the Japanese 3rd tier. I'm not saying they'll be shite but let's face it, if we'd signed them direct from their previous clubs, folk would be raging at another of Levein's punts. The only difference here is that we're a testing ground for another team's punt. Percentage of their budget wise, I wouldn't be surprised if £900k is less to Man City than we spend on making programmes. I hope I'm wrong, I just think expectations need to be cooled somewhat. Thats a dampener mate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1971fozzy Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 Just now, Normthebarman said: Sorry! I'm normally a positive ***** too! I just have this horrible feeling we're signing the Portuguese Jack Hamilton and the Japanese Callum Morrison! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudi must stay Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 9 minutes ago, Normthebarman said: I'm going to put a dampener on things. Folk seem awfy excited about this fella and the Man U lad. Let's be honest. If Levein had signed these lads based on their stats, not one person would be getting excited. A 21 year old keeper who's never played more than a handful of games a season for mid table Portuguese teams and a lad who's ripped up the Japanese 3rd tier. I'm not saying they'll be shite but let's face it, if we'd signed them direct from their previous clubs, folk would be raging at another of Levein's punts. The only difference here is that we're a testing ground for another team's punt. Percentage of their budget wise, I wouldn't be surprised if £900k is less to Man City than we spend on making programmes. I hope I'm wrong, I just think expectations need to be cooled somewhat. Pereira was called the best young keeper in Portugal by Mourinho in 2017. And the fact Man City signed Meshino shows he has ability, so I can't agree. They are both very positive moves Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bauld Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 18 minutes ago, Normthebarman said: I'm going to put a dampener on things. Folk seem awfy excited about this fella and the Man U lad. Let's be honest. If Levein had signed these lads based on their stats, not one person would be getting excited. A 21 year old keeper who's never played more than a handful of games a season for mid table Portuguese teams and a lad who's ripped up the Japanese 3rd tier. I'm not saying they'll be shite but let's face it, if we'd signed them direct from their previous clubs, folk would be raging at another of Levein's punts. The only difference here is that we're a testing ground for another team's punt. Percentage of their budget wise, I wouldn't be surprised if £900k is less to Man City than we spend on making programmes. I hope I'm wrong, I just think expectations need to be cooled somewhat. He's 23. Miserable ******* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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